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Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: kofa on February 12, 2004, 11:20:22 PM
pls muslim brothers n sisters we all know that it's a sin to take anything that will harm your life.And we all know that smoking affect our life.it's also prove by doctors.Now is it HARAM in islam or not.
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Dante on February 12, 2004, 11:49:37 PM


Smoking is a sin!

But people sin all the time without knowing what they've done!
E.G the greatest sin people do nowadayz do is GOSSIPING!!!

GOSSIPING is now very common in many societies & homes!
if you are not a good GOSSIPER, people would take you as
someone who is...

Akwai inda Annabi muhammad (S.A.W) yace: Mutum ya
zama tabarmar dakinsa!

Wannan magana ce mai ma'ana ga mai hankali! think of it, carefully!

Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: kofa on February 13, 2004, 09:48:16 PM
i 100% agree with u.but if am not mistaking i know where u r heading to ko? its a sin dai babu kyau.thats what u mean Dante?
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Dante on February 13, 2004, 09:51:57 PM
Yes, it is a sin!
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Guduma on February 23, 2004, 09:32:58 AM
Why pick on smoking only? What about adultery, drinking, fornication, backbiting, sodomy, lesbianism, cheating etc? I think non smokers are only being hard on smokers!
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: ummita on February 26, 2004, 02:10:31 AM
Quote
Yes, it is a sin!

Who said so Dante? Smokin is a Sin? Really?

In my own point of view I dnt think it is. Smokin can be categorised in two classes right or wrong?
Theres wat ppl smoke wit different brands Rothmans, ?Benson & Hedges, Camel, Capri, infact harda Shisha xcetra xcetra. Howeva wat I cud term as haram in smokin dem things lyk Dope, Weed, Cannibis,Ganja, Tranqullisers, Liquids (petrol & stuff). Now those r d sort of smokin... ish that is haram. Those can remove a person from his right mental capacity, it removes people from their actual state of mind & puts them into a sumswhat state like automatism, so these ppl do bad things in dat state, kill,rob, vandalise & lots more nt 2 mention d internal harm they duin 2 their health. The consequences of d result-end of d acts dat ppl fynd demselves upon after smoking these things is wat makes it haram! Therefore, without reasonable doubt our religion forbids them.

YES!! SMOKING CIGGARETTES DOES HAV SIDE EFFECTS (HEALTHWISE) YES IT DOES INTERNAL HARM BT I HAVENT HEARD FROM ALIMS OR READ ANY HADITH DAT SAID THOSE WHO SMOKE CIGARRETTE ARE SINNERS OR IT IS A SIN TO SMOKE!.....

Personally I do not support smokin bt it doesnt mean dat we shud regard those who do it as sinners or d mere fact that it is a sin! Plz those wit more knowledge cum 4ward, I really wanna know......Dante xplain further plz bt as Guduma said there r beta things 2 worry about.
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Fulanizzle on February 27, 2004, 07:30:40 AM
SaLAM...

THERE IS A HADITH THAT SAYS.....ANYTHING THAT DESTROYS THE HEALTH BODY OR MIND IS HARAM...


SOOOOOOOO  SMOKING IS A DEFINITE HARAM.....ALTHOUGH MANY PEOPLE DONT REALIZE THIS....

PLUS IT KILLS THE BREATH MAN!
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Dante on February 27, 2004, 11:23:12 PM
Quote

Who said so Dante? Smokin is a Sin? Really?
I really wanna know......Dante xplain further plz bt as Guduma said there r beta things 2 worry about.

I could'nt remember actually wether it's in the Qur'an i read
this or hadith, cause i have'nt been reciting now 4 quite a
while.
It saids:? ? ?"ALMUBAZZIRINA KANU MINA SHAITAN..."

Meaning who does things unnecessary(like wasting of money)
is like being a member to the shaitan.

Also, The way i c Smoking, is just like burning money, as in just roling a ?5 quid and light it & smoke! there is no difference with doin so. is there ?
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Dante on February 27, 2004, 11:26:58 PM
Quote
SaLAM...

THERE IS A HADITH THAT SAYS.....ANYTHING THAT DESTROYS THE HEALTH BODY OR MIND IS HARAM...


SOOOOOOOO ?SMOKING IS A DEFINITE HARAM.....ALTHOUGH MANY PEOPLE DONT REALIZE THIS....

PLUS IT KILLS THE BREATH MAN!



Thnx 4 da hadith, Jazakallahu Khairah.


Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Dante on February 27, 2004, 11:59:20 PM
QuoteWhy pick on smoking only? What about adultery, drinking, fornication, backbiting, sodomy, lesbianism, cheating etc? I think non smokers are only being hard on smokers!

Thank you very much guduma for asking this Q, I'm glad to crack down & enlighten people somethin bout fornication.

There are People who are furnicating every day & night, & they believe what they are doing is HARAM! Everyday they pray and ask god for forgiveness. God will forgive them cause he is the All FORGIVER. (GAFURUR RAHIM)

And there are also people who are furnicating & they don't know they are furnicating & don't ask God to forgive them! These people TO ME are LOST.

If you've heard of this greatest scholar & Sheikh of the Tijjaniyya brotherhood. Before he died, He said to other fellow brothers that:
Members of this brotherhood should not invite CIGARETTE SMOKERS into the brotherhood!
But Drinkers, lesbians, furnicators..... are all allowed to join this brotherhood except SMOKERS!

A scholar stood up & asked him: Ya sheikh, why would we allow these furnicators into the brotherhood & wount allow a CIGARETTE SMOKER who does less HARAM than them ?

He said: All muslim furnicators; Drinkers, gays, lesbians...... all of them believe what they are doing is HARAM! And most of them pray and ask him (GOD) for forgiveness. But SMOKERS don't think what they are doing is HARAM! But they are really furnicating every hour & don't know that they are furnicating! And not all of them ask god to forgive them for SMOKING!

So you see the difference.

Ustazu's, What's u'r opinions to this ?
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Dante on March 01, 2004, 10:32:41 PM
Ustazai ban jiku ba ?
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Hafsy_Lady on March 02, 2004, 03:13:15 PM
WHERE EXACTLY DOES IT SAY SHAN SIGARI HARAM NE............? ??? I HAVE ATTENDED QUITE ALOT OF ISLAMIC SEMINARS AND FORUMNITIES ALSO QUITE A FEW DISCUSSIONS CAME UP ABOUT THE DOUBT THAT PEOPLE HAVE IN RELATION TO CIGARRETTE SMOKING AND MANY ALIMS PROVIDED THAT SHAN CIGARIN BA HARAM BANE ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT RIGHT TO SMOKE.......
AS MY HONEE COMBS UMMITA MENTIONED...........SMOKING POT AKA WEED........ IS A DEFINATE HARAM BUT ORDINARY CIGAR IT DOESNT REALLY SPECIFY IN THE QURAN, THOUGH THERE ARE SOURCES THAT WE COULD ALL WELL RELATE THAT SMOKING DAMAGES HEALTH AND DUE TO THAT FACT IT MIGHTTTTTTT NOT BE PERMISSABLE IN ISLAM BUT ON THE WHOLE IT IS NOT UNISLAMIC NEITHER IT IS A SIN!
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Dante on March 03, 2004, 01:34:16 AM
QuoteWHERE EXACTLY DOES IT SAY SHAN SIGARI HARAM NE............? ??? I HAVE ATTENDED QUITE ALOT OF ISLAMIC SEMINARS AND FORUMNITIES ALSO QUITE A FEW DISCUSSIONS CAME UP ABOUT THE DOUBT THAT PEOPLE HAVE IN RELATION TO CIGARRETTE SMOKING AND MANY ALIMS PROVIDED THAT SHAN CIGARIN BA HARAM BANE ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT RIGHT TO SMOKE... ? ? (http://dantatafamily.com/images/blabla.gif)

Islamically, anything that one does & it damages health is
HARAM! This includes Smoking (weather cigaratte, wee,
bob-marley, scunk or wateva).
(http://dantatafamily.com/images/chakewa.gif)

Anyway, we now all agree that smoking is HARAM From all
different points of views we've see, right ?

? ?Now, let's talk about eating KOLA NUT (Goro)?

I see this as HARAM as well, if ya'all agree cigarette is HARAM!

It's more less like a fruit, mostly consumed by old people.
It does'nt sets u free from hunger when u eat a whole
bag of it, it damages ones health SERIOUSLY like how
cigaratte does or even more than.

Wat du u fink ?
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Dante on March 06, 2004, 02:39:30 PM
??? ::)
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Fateez on March 06, 2004, 05:18:09 PM
Quote

I see this as HARAM as well, if ya'all agree cigarette is HARAM!

It's more less like a fruit, mostly consumed by old people.
It does'nt sets u free from hunger when u eat a whole
bag of it,
it damages ones health SERIOUSLY like how
cigaratte does or even more than.

Wat du u fink ?


~*Salaam*~,

Hmm, Dante U 've started anoda one? Kola nut? Haram? I don't think so,I don't think a person can eat a whole bag of kola at a go.In fact a normal person might only eat less than 1/2 a nut in a day. Some people have gud reasons for eating kola. Many people get disgusted easily, and need to take a tiny piece of kola to prevent them from throwing up. Tell me, isn't it doing a gud thing for them? If u had a choice, either u take a piece (very tiny piece) of kola or u end up puking for the whole day, which one will u pick (Tsakani da Allah)?
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: ummita on March 08, 2004, 10:34:38 PM
Quote
? ?Now, let's talk about eating KOLA NUT (Goro)?
I see this as HARAM as well, if ya'all agree cigarette is HARAM!

*Deep sign*......although I do nt hav d full knowledge on this aspect so May Allah accept my Ma'afs.

This is not like eatin oink oink (Pig) pork is haram, kolanut is haram :o whutttt? (sho!!)

*signs again* Dante...so basically we all have "SINNERS IN D HOUSE".......my grandmother is a kolanut muncher, my great granddad eats kolanut, my uncle eats kola, my mothers father eats kolanut, my neighbour's freinds granddad eats kola, yawwa! d security guard is d worst kolanut eater I'd eva seen. Dante am 100% sure dat amongst ur relatives, u also hav a kolanut eater. So they hav all done haram because dey'v eaten kolanut & eatin kola is haram, so dey r all ?sinner? :-/.

*signs* Durin hausa marriage they share kolanuts 2 spread d news dat so & so r about 2 jump d broom (a way 2 bless d nikha), wen d couples marry dey borne a child, dey share kolanuts 2 invite ppl 4 namin ceremony......dey hav done haram? because they shared kolanut which will b eaten by others koh?

Furthermore, everything is based on intention......ur state of mind is wat will b judged accordin 2 ur intention, ur intent 2 carry out an act, ur intent 2 chew kolanut 4 pleasure or other purpose will obciously differ!

A child can eat a kolanut, with what intention (children just like to put things in their mouth) so dat makes d kid is a sinner because he has eaten haram?

I can eat a kola not 4 pleasure of smell rather 2 avoid me from pukin as my sista Fateez said, because I seen something disgustin, so does my intention justify d fact that I hav eaten kolanut knowin it is haram?

I hav guest over my house, my tradition says I shud break a kola 4 ppl I respect......so eatin it is haram and indeed we are sinners?

Allah will not judge ppl if they lack an intention in carryin out an act....I mean, this is simple reasoning...."Do you think God will put a man in hell fire 4 rushin his pregnant wife 4 delivery 2 hospital but accidentally runs over a crippled man? So God will punish him because he has killed a crippled without an intention or knowledge koh? If you disagree he lacks the intention, then it could be said without reasonable doubt Allah will not curse all those kolanut eaters includin my grandmother unless infact they know it is haram and if indeed eating it is haram!

Dante, please do nt get me wrong, I really respect ur views however, I would kindly like u 2 provide me or otherwise 4 d beneficiary of those dat oppose:proper sources........proper islamic evidence....yes! I can do a lil research on search engines, bt kai da kafada sai ka kawo back up facts koh?

What will b d next thing: Drinkin pine apple juice is haram because *duin nyindi dum kude nasara e yahudue'n?* :-/

Once again, may Allah accept our Ma'afs where we go wrong.
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Dante on March 10, 2004, 01:25:49 AM
Salaam,

All i want u to understand here is: if you agree that smoking
is a sin, then you must agree that eating kola nut is a sin as
well!

Cause, i see no difference in both! Just like in Arab tradition,
it is just taken normally like we hausa ppl eat kola nut. Some
even have this called shish (it's like a cigratte machine!)
it's just very normal within their society just like we hausa's
take kola nut. & i bet ya if u ask an ARAB (cigratte is a sin) ,
he'll dafenately say NO & reply in the same way ya'all did &
felt when someone says eatin KOLA is a SIN.

As fateez said "Some ppl eat kola nut to cool them down, when
they feel like vomiting or so" it's the same thing with cigrette!
coz i've asked few smokers & ma question was:
what & how does it feel when you do or dont smoke ?
what most of em said was (for pleasure, cooling temper...) &
some things that no one will take for an answer u know.


NB
Quote*signs* Durin hausa marriage they share kolanuts 2 spread d news dat so & so r about 2 jump d broom (a way 2 bless d nikha), wen d couples marry dey borne a child, dey share kolanuts 2 invite ppl 4 namin ceremony......dey hav done haram? because they shared kolanut which will b eaten by others koh?

The same culture in arabs, they share cigari as something
similar to the hausawa culture.

Quote*signs again* Dante...so basically we all have "SINNERS IN D HOUSE".......my grandmother is a kolanut muncher, my great granddad eats kolanut, my uncle eats kola, my mothers father eats kolanut, my neighbour's freinds granddad eats kola, yawwa! d security guard is d worst kolanut eater I'd eva seen. Dante am 100% sure dat amongst ur relatives, u also hav a kolanut eater. So they hav all done haram because dey'v eaten kolanut & eatin kola is haram, so dey r all  sinner?

I'm a kola nut chopper as well, & alot of the ppl i know eat it!

Best moment of eatin Kola is: Right after a meal, take it
with some pure water! my, my.
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2004, 01:52:41 AM
Assalamualaikum yanuwana,
To nidai nabuwan zuwana kuma na iske ku kuna wani discsussion wanda naga zamuyi koyi kuma da fahimtar juna.
Mallam Dante kamar yadda baiwar Allah nan Malama Ummita tayi bayani, ina ganin akwai babbar banbanci tsakanin masu shan taba for pleasure da masu cin goro for a purpose: misali sau da dama na kan ga masu ciki ko mai jego suna cin gori saboda kwannafi da kuma jin amai and that INTENTION is different kamar yadda aka yi bayani a sama. Moreso, kakaninmu sukan ci goro not for pleasure, wasu kamar symbol ne ai (alamar an shigo sawun tsufanci, ma'ana tsufa ya isa aci goro, wasu tsofaffin ma gani suka its fashion, its in vague idan an kai 80yrs upwards a ringa ci goro)

E'to zan iya cewa shan taba tabbas haramun ne amman cin goro gaskiya bani da basira akai amman zanyi tambaya amman dai bayanin da yaruwar mu musulma ta bayar, ya kamata ayi mata kallon kwarai don hakika akwai batutuwa masu ma'ana da ta fada regarding culture and goro (biki, suna da dai sauransu)
Haza Wasalam .  
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Dante on March 10, 2004, 02:06:50 AM
Gaskiya ne wannan, Ni kaina zan kara yin tambaya akai kafin
next post dina!

Allah yasa mu dace.
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: ajingi on March 10, 2004, 03:24:15 PM
Do not straight you hands to cause destruction to your self.
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Fateez on March 10, 2004, 06:32:35 PM
QuoteDo not straight you hands to cause destruction to your self.


~*Salaam*~

Thanxx for givin'  dis example
But if you are using dis example, Then u shudn't consider
kola only. Be more realistic...

Compare da "harmful kola" to da normal egg we eat...

Kola: makes ur teeth brown rite

(but can be fixed)

Kola: Kills ur lungz

(True, but it depends on the quantity taken)

Dat's it, rite?

Let's check out da egg...

Egg: Really nice when boiled, and when fried, Even better!

But eggs contain saturated fat, In fact not even eggs, Dairy products; Milk, cheese, man shanu, yoghurt.
food like Meat, kidney and many other proteins and carbohydrates. All these sources are converted into Cholesterol!!!


Low density Lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol oxidizes and
deposits in the walls of arteries to form"atherosclerosis," or
hardening of the arteries. This condition causes 500,000 heartattacks each year. Isn't dis dangerous as well?


Wat I'm tryin 2 say is, If we say eating kola is haram, then we r also indirectly saying dat eating food in general is haram(Which is not so). LDL does more harm than kola. Our fore fathers and ancestors ate goro, and still lived longer than 80 years (average). But a man wit high LDL might not live dat long! They barely even exceed 60 years of age! Dis is just  comparing the two classes of food.

(Allahu Wa'alam)

May Allah help us...

~*Bisalaam*~  
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: ummita on March 11, 2004, 11:58:42 AM
God bless u mah sista!

Besides KOLANUT is our (ANCHESTRAL DELICACY/DESERT) ;D

Dante & Jamilu, we await more information please
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Dante on March 12, 2004, 08:06:39 PM
Quote
Wat I'm tryin 2 say is, If we say eating kola is haram, then we r also indirectly saying dat eating food in general is haram(Which is not so). LDL does more harm than kola. Our fore fathers and ancestors ate goro, and still lived longer than 80 years (average). But a man wit high LDL might not live dat long! They barely even exceed 60 years of age! Dis is just  comparing the two classes of food.
(Allahu Wa'alam)

Salaam,

I don't think you can compare food with kola!
secondly: kola does more damage to you'r health
more than Egg as you were saying.

My point why i said kola should be regarded as
haram here is because it fits into the same category
as cigrette is. due to the harmfull side effects they
both do in the human respiratory system.
And everyone knows that Kola & cigrette contains
alot of nicotine, that's a very dangerous & addictive
substance to the body.

QuoteBesides KOLANUT is our (ANCHESTRAL DELICACY/DESERT)

I agree with you 100% but you will have to agree it's
just like cigrette is smoked in ancient ARAB society.

What i'll have to conclude here is that you guys have
to agree that Kola is in the same category as Cigrette.

Fateez, i hope u are waving a white flag!
LoL.
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: ummita on March 12, 2004, 09:41:38 PM
 
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I HAV ALOT OF TIME 2DAY......
We can go on & on, bt wat I'd requested had nt been provided all I ask is that you provide sources that talks about Kola and all the prohibited reasons 4 it dats all! But still u didnt......(http://www.jazzynigerians.com/ib_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif)

Halal and haram: We all know the difference, Halal foods r those dat  r permitted for consumption by Allah- the supreme lawgiver. In the Holy Quran, Allah commands Muslims and all of mankind to eat of the Halal which isn obligatory. On d oda hand, Allah subhana wata'ala 4bids us 2 eat haram. Yes indeed we all know dat it is forbidden 4 every muslim 2 vacuum haram foods & any1 who does dat wud b a sinner. True! I raise no requistions 2 dat.

Dante: 4rom my little knowledge on dis aspect, am sure u will also agree wit me dat  Halal and Haram in a way describes food products, meat products, cosmetics, personal care products, food ingredients, beverages etc. And indeed dey r accordin 2 d Holy Quran & Shari?ah Law. True koh?

Toh,......I am not wrong if I say Milk (from cows, sheeps, camels or goats),Honey,Fish,plants which are not intoxicant :eg genetically modified),Fresh or naturally frozen vegetables. errrmmmm.....(http://www.jazzynigerians.com/ib_html/non-cgi/emoticons/screwy.gif)yawwa! Fresh or dried fruits like lentils,beans,pistachios, cashew nuts, hazel nuts, walnuts, etc. Now if kolanut is a nut where does it fall part of? I will ansa dat myself it falls part of nuts (dried fruits)
Grains such as wheat, rice, rye, barley, oat, xcetra xcetra we all knoe dey nt haram.

Now animals such as cows, sheep, goats, chickens, ducks, xcetra r Halal, but obviously dey must b slaugthered according 2 Islamic Rites am I ryt or wrong? Howeva "ionk ionk" (as I luv refferin 2) Pig/Swine/Pork & blood & blood by-products, carnivorous animals.I definately wnt eat monkey (bt some gambians do!!! seriouly) reptiles & insects and even halal meat if dey r not slaughtered according to the Islamic Law r 2 b considered Haram!

Now let me recap on the kolanut issue, if at all kolanut is haram, so is tootpaste, body cream, bath soaps, cereals (kellogs), ketchup, mayonnaise, salad cream, bars of chocolate bars, perfumes, kai even d afta shave dat Dante keeps in his toilet drake hanger is haram! Why because 90% of dem contain either of these: they contain either one or more of these substances: Gelatin,Enzymes,Emulsifiers,Lard,Glycerol/glycerin etc. Now in circusmtances like these we r advised 2 avoid all things like dat bt on d other hand, it is quite undertsnadin 4 usage of things dat we cnt avoid I didnt say go chop pork thou!

Wat am tryin 2 point out 2 u Dante is this:
Alims, Ulamas/Ustaz we've all heard dem preach.....
Drinkin alcohol is haram, adultery & fornication is haram, lyin, stealin, backbiting,eatin pork.....etc........
Though there is less of these knowleged respected ppl sayin; "o ye, ppl do nt eat kolanut, 4 it is haram and it is a sin, 4 Allah will put u in hell if u eat kola, avoid it, stay away from it....etc!
U see every act carries a weight the sinness of commiting is wat is weighed upon. On d contrary we've heard billion times...that lesbinians, gaysim is all haram, adultery or eatin pork meat will definately differ from d sinness of eatin kolanut (dats if it is haram) .......Wat I want u 2 understand is u just cnt cum out & say something is haram without having d real facts @ hand. Now if indeed kolanut is haram, billions hav eaten it without knowledge of it being haram. Wat will happen 2 dem kenan. For I hav read several chapters & so many surahs in d qur'an where relates & translated that: Allah does nt fynd u in d wrong 4 an act dat u hav done witout a reasonable sound intention.  Now I ask you this question; Supposing a cow was feed animal feeds which contains....lets say animal fat like pig & d cow ends @ d butchers place & u happen 2 purchase rib cage 2 grill @ home (dats if u even know how 2 cook!!) does it equally make it haram 4 u, even thou u hav no knowledge?

Dont get me wrong brotha,am nt sayin I whole heartedly disagree, am nt sayin u r lyin bout it, either way I am nt sayin that I will disagree wit d words of Allah however, what I need is sources! If u provide me wit these, trully I will b among d ppl 2 pass d message startin wit mah family mah granny most especiall...I will bann her!
I rest my case!
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Fateez on March 13, 2004, 06:37:19 AM
Quote
I don't think you can compare food with kola!
secondly: kola does more damage to you'r health
more than Egg as you were saying.

Why not?!?!?!

Oh, so u mean 500000 heart attacks is not damage?

Sumtimes pple get heart attacks without knowing da cause!
Egg harms ur circulatory system

kola harms ur respiratory system

They both harm, rite?

Quote
And everyone knows that Kola & cigrette contains
alot of nicotine, that's a very dangerous & addictive
substance to the body.


No, everyone doesn't KNOW kola contains nicotine.

Every one, THINKS Kola contains nicotine,

But it doesn't!

The only contradiction with kola is Caffeine

Don't believe mi? Search wit google!

Quote
I agree with you 100% but you will have to agree it's
just like cigrette is smoked in ancient ARAB society.

Why r u comparing us 2 da Arabs ne?

We are very different 4rm dem.

Just because u think cig. is haram, and dey do it,

doesn't mean our dear goro is haram!

Quote
What i'll have to conclude here is that you guys have
to agree that Kola is in the same category as Cigrette.

Why r u jumpin into conclusion, ne? we don't have to

agree!

Quote
Fateez, i hope u are waving a white flag!
LoL.

There will be no white flag above ma door!!!
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Fateez on March 13, 2004, 06:44:29 AM
Quote
Dont get me wrong brotha,am nt sayin I whole heartedly disagree, am nt sayin u r lyin bout it, either way I am nt sayin that I will disagree wit d words of Allah however, what I need is sources! If u provide me wit these, trully I will b among d ppl 2 pass d message startin wit mah family mah granny most especiall...I will bann her!
I rest my case!

Yeah dat's true sista!!!

Nobody's tryn 2 go against u.

We just need proof.

Umm..I explained d way egg causes harm, rite?

So pls explain wat kola does 2 us.

Pleeeeeeeeeeease ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: kofa on March 16, 2004, 09:33:58 PM
PLEASE WHICH ONE HARM MOST

 CIGARETTE OR KOLANUT?
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Anonymous on March 17, 2004, 01:07:30 AM
Gaskiya nayi kokarin cijewa akan kada nayi magana akan wannan matsala amman nakasa. A nan dai, ina gani kam duk sharhinsu dayane. dalili na kuwa na fadan haka shine saboda duk suna illantar da hunhun mutum. wanda gaskiya ne wannan gameda goro (kolanut).

Amman hakikanin gaskiya duk wani bahaushen da bai da illimi game da wannan fanni, aka zo aka fada masa hakan zai ce ba haka bane ba. Amman ga mutum mai ilimi, aka gaya masa yadda goro (kolanut) yake lahantar da mutum, to zai yadda game da cewa haramun ne. domin musulinci ya fada cewa duk abin da zai illantar da kai, haramun ne.

Haza wasalam.
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Maqari on March 17, 2004, 04:48:31 AM
well well well ............ i try the hardest to avoid discussing religion especially islam,yet i find myself conciously tempering with this topic excuse the audacity guys, i just couldnt resist the temptation to cause a few eyebrows to rise , who knows i might even suffer an insult or two , but as usual this never stops MaQari from voicing his opinions, now with this stated i will dive into the matter at hand ,
saifi i see you qoate the scripture and if my memory serves me correct the original arabic format is :
"wa la tulqu bi aidiyakum ilat~tahlukati"
trouble is if you use this script to boycott or sanction ciggerettes you will also be left with no choice but to sanction many other necessary human practices,which ranges from simply drinking the lead saturated third world tap water all the way down to flying the air-bourne death traps Nigerian companies like to call aircrafts, thus to single out ciggerette smoking is just  incircumstantial , im not trying to play the devil's advocate role rather just depicting my stand point,
YES im a smoker a chain smoker as a matter of fact, so i observe first hand how notoriously harmfull is smoking to your health,i also am aware that most ciggerette smokers have a love/hate relationship with nicotine most old time ciggerette smokers often attempt vainly to quit,furthermore caution nonsmokers not to start, in my 23 years of existance i never heard of a case where a kola eater tells a frieand " hey mallam you see this kola eating habit? never start it its bad for your health" , actually its usually quite the contrary they are quick to offer you one, ( this is sometimes also the case with smokers ) except in our case we sooner withdraw the offer after learning that the acquintance does not smoke , but the hausa elders will prove more or even ask you to take it and give it to your grandma ( if u happen to have one )
now how pathetic would i sound if i give you a ciggerette and ask you to take it to kaka ?  :-/ , truth is we often like to dissect and go back on forth on minor issues  that only serve to distract us from the graver issues (like the present condition of our people), once again a "suggestive thinking " methodology being recycled to keep the common folk occupied with vaig matters  while the administrations devour the nation with an amazing velocity.
    so guys please give it a rest the issue is been argued since the ice age, yes tobacco is harmfull extremely so, does that make it a godly sin ? i do not know neither do i care , and if i stop, it damn sure wouldnt be because some ancient scripture or some religious conservertive aristocrat says so , it will be ultimately to save my poor lungs, if you ask me we should let those stubborn traditional arguments rest in their shallow grave,they are long dead, and Allah might have created my mind but i govern it my damn self . ONE
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Dante on March 27, 2004, 03:06:34 PM
Salaam siss & bro's

Ina fatan dai yanzu ummita & fateez have understood
my point of referring to categorise smoking & kolanut
in the same category i.e (something harmfull).

And if something is harmful to the human body, it is
something we referr it to as haram!

Da fatan kun gane manufata ?
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: thegood on March 27, 2004, 09:33:43 PM
salaam,
Dante, wanga batu naka gaskiya ne, domin kuwa duk abin zai cutar da mutum ya zama haramun a musulumci.......amma acigaba bincike. Allah yasa mugane.
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Anonymous on March 28, 2004, 12:40:19 AM
QuoteSalaam siss & bro's

Ina fatan dai yanzu ummita & fateez have understood
my point of referring to categorise smoking & kolanut
in the same category i.e (something harmfull).

And if something is harmful to the human body, it is
something we referr it to as haram!

Da fatan kun gane manufata ?

Wannan hakikanin gaskiya ne, ga mai hankali.
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: ummita on March 29, 2004, 01:59:36 PM
QuoteSalaam siss & bro's

Ina fatan dai yanzu ummita & fateez have understood
my point of referring to categorise smoking & kolanut
in the same category i.e (something harmfull).

And if something is harmful to the human body, it is
something we referr it to as haram!

Da fatan kun gane manufata ?


Salaamz,
Dante, I clearly understood where u r comin from and all I have been wanting to know is the religious back up facts on kolanut. I want 2 c clear evidence from Qur'an sources.  If anything is haram Shariah Law speaks of it, then why hasnt it spoken of kolanut?
Dont get me wrong, if you say you are right, then you are, if I agree I will agree and I am not in anyway disagreeing wit u rather, my point in fact is this: NOT ALL HARMFUL THINGS THAT WE CONSUME IS TO BE CONSIDERED HARAM!!!!!........sugar is too sugary if taken alot, it has its significance ill-health 2 d human body Does it make it haram? :-X There are certain degrees to a level of things 2 b considered harmonious 2 d body!!............
SO ALSO THERE IS A HUGEEEE DIFFEREBCE FROM
PORK MEAT AND KOLANUT?

IF Haram is haram then those that eat kolanut should carry the same weight of sin to those that it pork meat!!!!

mhmmmm seems like we are not going anyway. No progress..........you havent provided us or should I say me wit wat I hav requested..........therefore as from now onwards me'z got no option..........I'hav backed out.....make I go siddown 4 kona and learn from the rest of u...thou I will keep my self updated!!
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Dante on April 17, 2004, 07:04:18 PM
Quote from: "ummita"
Salaamz,
Dante, I clearly understood where u r comin from and all I have been wanting to know is the religious back up facts on kolanut. I want 2 c clear evidence from Qur'an sources.  If anything is haram Shariah Law speaks of it, then why hasnt it spoken of kolanut?
Dont get me wrong, if you say you are right, then you are, if I agree I will agree and I am not in anyway disagreeing wit u rather, my point in fact is this: NOT ALL HARMFUL THINGS THAT WE CONSUME IS TO BE CONSIDERED HARAM!!!!!........sugar is too sugary if taken alot, it has its significance ill-health 2 d human body Does it make it haram? :-X There are certain degrees to a level of things 2 b considered harmonious 2 d body!!............
SO ALSO THERE IS A HUGEEEE DIFFEREBCE FROM
PORK MEAT AND KOLANUT?

IF Haram is haram then those that eat kolanut should carry the same weight of sin to those that it pork meat!!!!

mhmmmm seems like we are not going anyway. No progress..........you havent provided us or should I say me wit wat I hav requested..........therefore as from now onwards me'z got no option..........I'hav backed out.....make I go siddown 4 kona and learn from the rest of u...thou I will keep my self updated!!

Salaam ummita,
It's been quite a long time since our last discussion.

To be honest with you, there are things in life that religioun
never talked of. Such as smoking! but religioun says that :
"wateva you do or take, that is harmful to your body is a sin."
truely, i thinked of this word day-by-day b4 i classified eating
kola as the same. Think about it.

Talking of kola again, i dont think it can be grouped as a
fruit or such. It is more less like a cigrette; by taste. It is not
sweet or something like sort. Same reasons with cigrette, first
let's take a look of what cigrette is made up of. Pure leaves &
the paper is made from rice that is consumed by many these
days. So they are both classified as plants, or let me say harmfull
substances to the human body.

Well, this point i've thought of realy made me say that kolanut is
a sin!

Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: kofa on May 27, 2004, 05:58:11 PM
the latest scientific finding on smokers.IT REDUCES SPERM COUNT.
Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: sani on September 21, 2004, 08:42:24 PM
pls i want to quit smoking but am not finding it easy wallahi.the moment i finish eating the nxt thing is sigrrette.
Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: kitkat on September 21, 2004, 11:25:43 PM
Try acupuncture. Its almost guranteed to make you quit after about4 sessions.
Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Dante on September 26, 2004, 10:55:39 PM
Quote from: "kitkat"Try acupuncture. Its almost guranteed to make you quit after about4 sessions.


What is acupuncture?

Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Hafsy_Lady on September 27, 2004, 10:14:07 AM
hehehehe Dante, basically acupunture cannot be bought like a commodity. It is rather a service rendered on patients mostly by specialist chineese doctors or medical practioners. Is is an ancient Chinese system of healing where fine needles are inserted at specific points on your body especailly the back to stimulate and balance the flow or energy, relieve pain, and treat a variety of chronic and acute pains or sickness. Thats so far how I can describe it

I enjoy acupunture and I had it done 6 times. :lol: just for headaches and backaches. Kasan idan tsufa yazo ba magana!!!

Duh, Kittykat I dnt really think acu......does help smokers to quit. Maybe nicotine patches and people around you might help. Sani, set yourself a date to quit inform freinds and family, keep a diary so that when ever you lit one up your freinds and fam are there to shaun you down. Also limit the intake of your cig sicks to one a day. Gradually and with constant du'a you will stop. Otherwise, you are shortening your life expectancy
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: mlbash on October 01, 2004, 11:19:33 PM
Quote from: "kofa"PLEASE WHICH ONE HARM MOST

 CIGARETTE OR KOLANUT?

FOR YOUR INFORMATION; THERE ARE OVER 20 HARMFUL CONSTITUENTS IN CIGAR SMOKE AND BESIDE, THESMOKE ITSELF IS VERY TOXIC TO THE BODY. THE SMOKE PREDISPOSES TO CANCER OF THE LUNGS, FOR IT'S NITROUS OXIDE, CARBONMONOXIDE,AND OTHER NITROUS CONSTITUENTS! THEREFORE THERE ARE MORE TO IT THAN COMMONLY EXPRESS! :!:
Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Dante on October 09, 2004, 02:18:01 PM
Quote from: "Hafsy_Lady"hehehehe Dante, basically acupunture cannot be bought like a commodity. It is rather a service rendered on patients mostly by specialist chineese doctors or medical practioners. Is is an ancient Chinese system of healing where fine needles are inserted at specific points on your body especailly the back to stimulate and balance the flow or energy, relieve pain, and treat a variety of chronic and acute pains or sickness. Thats so far how I can describe it

I enjoy acupunture and I had it done 6 times. :lol: just for headaches and backaches. Kasan idan tsufa yazo ba magana!!!

Duh, Kittykat I dnt really think acu......does help smokers to quit. Maybe nicotine patches and people around you might help. Sani, set yourself a date to quit inform freinds and family, keep a diary so that when ever you lit one up your freinds and fam are there to shaun you down. Also limit the intake of your cig sicks to one a day. Gradually and with constant du'a you will stop. Otherwise, you are shortening your life expectancy

Understandable. where did you hide all this while?

Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Anonymous on November 20, 2004, 12:25:16 PM
as salaamu alaikum

i am sayin hello to all
Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Hafsy_Lady on December 06, 2004, 03:14:02 PM
Quote from: "Anonymous"as salaamu alaikum

i am sayin hello to all

 : :?
TAMBAYA AKEYI SMOKIN IS IT HARAM OR NOT? Abi you nefa read di thread?
Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: kitkat on December 06, 2004, 04:59:17 PM
Quote from: "Hafsy_Lady"

Duh, Kittykat I dnt really think acu......does help smokers to quit. Maybe nicotine patches and people around you might help.  

Believe it or not it does. I know at least three people that quit smoking after a series of acupuncture sessions.
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Nirav on December 08, 2004, 05:55:50 PM
Quote from: "fatizahra"
Quote

hey man its desire to smoke , its free world whats haram and whats not its in the hand of allha!!
I don't think you can compare food with kola!
secondly: kola does more damage to you'r health
more than Egg as you were saying.

Why not?!?!?!

Oh, so u mean 500000 heart attacks is not damage?

Sumtimes pple get heart attacks without knowing da cause!
Egg harms ur circulatory system

kola harms ur respiratory system

They both harm, rite?

Quote
And everyone knows that Kola & cigrette contains
alot of nicotine, that's a very dangerous & addictive
substance to the body.


No, everyone doesn't KNOW kola contains nicotine.

Every one, THINKS Kola contains nicotine,

But it doesn't!

The only contradiction with kola is Caffeine

Don't believe mi? Search wit google!

Quote
I agree with you 100% but you will have to agree it's
just like cigrette is smoked in ancient ARAB society.

Why r u comparing us 2 da Arabs ne?

We are very different 4rm dem.

Just because u think cig. is haram, and dey do it,

doesn't mean our dear goro is haram!

Quote
What i'll have to conclude here is that you guys have
to agree that Kola is in the same category as Cigrette.

Why r u jumpin into conclusion, ne? we don't have to

agree!

Quote
Fateez, i hope u are waving a white flag!
LoL.

There will be no white flag above ma door!!!
Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Hafsy_Lady on December 14, 2004, 02:16:37 AM
IT IS NOT HARAM SO END IT HERE
Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: elgaazus on December 14, 2004, 07:43:44 PM
Kanonliners!!!!!!!!!!!

       Following the argument the from the begining one will not fail notice that all the contributors to this thread are divided into SMOKING being haram and not haram. Well, we all know that the religion of Islam always preaches the virtue of removing harm. Thus allowing human beings(ulamas) to use their discretion in matters that are not claerly defined in the Quran or Sunnah of the Prophet(SAW). Smoking is one of such issues, which some Ulamas termed 'MAKHRUH' that is unwanted owing to the facts that smoking bringsnogood but harm the human being. However, others are more strict on the matter who believe that just think it to be makhruh will not ditter ppl, so they delared it haram.  But Wallahu A'alam, so Hafsy lady dont rushto declare smoking HALAL its not prudent decision.

May Allah guide us, Amin.  

Ma'assalam
Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: dan kauye on December 19, 2004, 09:56:03 PM
toh ganin nan fa na iso wannan haraba...i'm no malam but i sabi copy & paste job..big thanx 2 search engines & d internet as a whole....check this out..i'll keep y'all updated...

Smoking and Islam

In Islam cleanliness and hygiene are emphasized to the extent that it has been considered a part of Iman (faith). It is very well known that a smoker's mouth is unclean and foul smelling "like a cigarette ash-tray." In the Quran, God says:

"And forbid them what is bad." - Surah Al-'Araf, 7:157

"0 ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling are an abomination of Satan's handiwork. Eschew such abominations that ye may prosper." -  Surah Al Ma'idah, 5:93

The word intoxicant has three meanings (6):  

(1) To induce, especially the effect of ingested alcohol.

(2) To stimulate or excite.

(3) To poison.  

The latter two meanings are very valid and applicable to nicotine.

Smoking is nothing but a form of slow suicide. The Qur'an says:

"And slay not the life which God hath forbidden..." - Surah, Al-Isra, 17:33

"And make not your own hands contribute to your destruction." - Surah, Al-Baqara, 2:195

"Nor kill or destroy yourselves for verily God hath been to you most Merciful."    Surah, An-Nisa, 4:29

Prophet Mohammed has said:

"Nor be hurt or injure others." It is scientifically proven that the exhaled smoke of the smoker is hazardous to non-smokers around him.

The amount of money a smoker spends on cigarette smoking in a period of 30 years is calculated to be Two Hundred Thousand Dollars or more. All this money is simply wasted (not including the money spent on smoker's health care).  

God says:  

"But squander not your wealth in the manner of a spend thrift, verily spendthrifts are brothers of evils." - Surah, Al-Isra, 17:26, 27

The body is polluted by smoking. Hence smokers cannot pray until they have cleansed themselves. According to the Qur'an:

"0 ye who believe! Draw not near unto prayer when you are drunken, till ye know that which ye utter, nor when you are polluted save when journeying upon the road, till you have bathed." - Surah, An-Nisa, 4:43

The Christians consider the human body to be a sacred trust given to man by God because it contains the spirit breathed into it by God. Even the Qur'an says

"So, when I have made him and have breathed unto him of My spirit, do ye fall down, prostrating yourselves unto him." - Surah, Al-Hijr, 15:29.

Hence the physical body should not be polluted or injured or destroyed in any way by smoking or taking of alcohol or any type of habit-forming drugs.

Conclusion

For the foregoing reasons and for reasons considered elsewhere, smoking is Haram or unlawful in Islam, hence smoking should be discouraged and finally banned in all Islamic countries.

All smoking Muslims should give up this unhealthy and un-Islamic activity. The best way to give it up is to stop all smoking completely. Tapering off on the amount one smokes does not work for most people. It is not easy to quit suddenly, but it is presently the most successful way. There are many ways and techniques available for a serious minded person to give up smoking.  For the Muslims who sincerely practice Islam and who submit themselves to the Will of God, this should not be a difficult task.
Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: ummita on December 22, 2004, 04:07:50 AM
THNX ALOT DEE-KAY.

SMOKING IS MAKRUHHHHH BUT NOT HARAM


Magana finito!
Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: kofa on August 24, 2005, 02:56:24 PM
Quote from: "ummita"THNX ALOT DEE-KAY.

SMOKING IS MAKRUHHHHH BUT NOT HARAM


Magana finito!
kai ummitah this ur statement need to be crosschecked i guess.
Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: ummita on September 05, 2005, 02:35:12 AM
Carry out all necessary pros-checkin in dat ONCE SENTENCE............n giv me d feedbck! (she smiles). All d post ppl had up there no one said CLEARLY: SMOKING IS HARAM & so so verse in d Quran testifies it! If there is make una holla.....make I reach ma ppl begin dey preach!

Jazakallah Khair............2 all knowledgeble contributory comments.
Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: kofa on September 25, 2005, 06:00:09 PM
Girls who smoke are 7 times more likely to grow excess facial hair.
Teens who smoke produce twice as much phlegm as teens who don't.
Smoking causes "hairy tongues" from the tar.
Teenage smokers see shrinks more than other teens.
Cigarettes contain formaldehyde - the same stuff used to preserve dead frogs.
Teens who smoke are more likely to catch a cold than people who don't-and their symptoms will probably be worse and last longer.
Studies find nonsmoking women to be more physically attractive.
Smoking is known to cause impotence in men.
The Marlboro man died from emphysema.
Teen smokers are more likely to gain belly fat.
Male smokers are more likely to have mutated sperm.
Puppies can die from eating 2 cigarette butts.
Cigarette smoke causes asthma in cats.
Smokers earn 10% less money than non-smokers.
Over 7,000 companies do not hire smokers
Kids who smoke 2 or 3 cigarettes a day can get hooked in as short as two weeks.
Once they get hooked, the average smoker smokes for seventeen years.
A Canadian dies every 12 minutes from tobacco use.
72% of high school seniors consider smoking a dirty habit, and say they'd rather date someone who doesn't smoke.
Smoking is more common among individuals with less education and lower income.
Smokers run slower and can't run as far as non-smokers.
Cigars and spit tobacco are not safe alternatives to smoking.
Even short-term use of spit tobacco can cause cracked lips, white spots, sores, and bleeding in your mouth.
Many kids start smoking (even though they know it's stupid) because they don't know how to say no to tobacco.
Smoking is the major cause of heart disease.
Operations to remove oral cancers caused by tobacco can permanently change the shape of your face.
People who try to quit chewing tobacco have the same symptoms as people trying to quit cigarettes.
Spit tobacco diminishes your sense of taste, so food doesn't taste as good.
Spit tobacco can cause tooth decay.
Smoking can lead to diseases that make your hair fall out.
Smokers are 1 1/2 times more likely than non-smokers to lose their teeth.
Cigarette smoke contains carbon monoxide, the same poisonous gas in car exhaust.
Smoking a pack a day for a whole year will cost you about $1200.
Quitting smoking now can boost your energy and stamina within just a few days.
Secondhand smoke fills the air with many of the same poisons found in the air around toxic waste dumps.
Smoking can decrease your life expectancy by as much as 15-25 years.
Carbon monoxide in cigarette smoke can make your skin look wrinkled and gray.
A single, large cigar smoked in one hour can contain as much tobacco as a pack of cigarettes.
You might think smoking calms your nerves, but actually it can increase your anxiety.
Among high school seniors who smoke 1 - 5 cigarettes a day, 70% will still be smoking-and risking their health-5 years later.
Tobacco is the only legal substance that is lethal when used as intended by the manufacturer.
It takes 25 years for a cigarette butt to decompose.
Cigarettes contain over 4,000 chemicals.
Worldwide, 600 trillion cigarettes are sold each year.
Secondhand smoke is just as bad for pets as it is for people.
Studies show that smokers are more likely than non-smokers to go deaf as they grow older.
Chewing tobacco lessens a person's senses of taste and smell. As a result, users tend to eat more salty and sweet foods, both of which are harmful if consumed in excess.
44% of teens say they didn't know bidi cigarettes could lead to cancer.
One bidi cigarette produces 3 times as much nicotine and carbon monoxide as a regular cigarette and 5 times as much tar.
Smoking just one cigarette is enough to impair the function of the heart so it has to work harder.
Each year in the U.S. there are more tobacco-related deaths than deaths from AIDS, car accidents, murders, suicide, drug overdoses and fires combined.
Teenagers who smoke have poorer general health than those who do not smoke.
Teenagers who smoke use more medications than those who do not smoke.
Teenagers who smoke have significantly more trouble sleeping than those who do not smoke.
Lung cancer has surpassed breast cancer as the leading cause of cancer deaths among females .
Tobacco companies spent more than $12.7 Billion each year on advertising.? That is 26 times the money NIKE made in 2003.
Smokers have about 10 times as many wrinkles as non-smokers.
Every 3 years, tobacco kills as many Americans as all our wars combined--over 1,000,000 people.
Nearly 1 in 5 deaths in the U.S. are related to smoking.
The most recent tobacco use figures for Virginia show that 4 of 5 High School students don't smoke.
40% of teenagers who smoke daily have tried to quit and failed.
Nicotine is more addictive than so-called "harder" drugs. 1 in 3 users become addicted, compared to 1 in 9 for regular alcohol users and 1 in 4 for crack or cocaine users.
Teens who try to quit smoking suffer the same nicotine withdrawal symptoms as adults who try to quit.
About 2/3 of teen smokers say they want to quit smoking, and 70% say they would not have started if they could choose again.
An estimated 1 billion packs of cigarettes are sold to minors under the age of 18 every year.
Each cigarette you smoke cuts 11 minutes from your life expectancy.
1 out of 3 young people who become regular smokers will die of a smoking related disease.
Young adult smokers are 43% more likely to suffer a stroke than their non-smoking peers.
Secondhand smoke may cause thousands of healthy kids to develop asthma each year.
Smoking as few as 5 cigarettes a day can reduce teens' lung function growth, with teenage girls being especially vulnerable.
Girls and women are significantly more likely than boys to report feeling dependent on cigarettes and are more likely to report feeling sad, blue or depressed during attempts to quit.
Studies rank secondhand smoke as the third leading cause of preventable death in the U.S., after active smoking and alcohol use, with 53,000 deaths annually.
Smokers are admitted to hospitals twice as often as nonsmokers.
A recent study showed that in households where both parents smoke, kids take in a nicotine equivalent of smoking 80 cigarettes a year.
In 2000, the largest single cause of fatal accidental house fires was the careless handling and disposal of smoking materials.
Smoking can cause gangrene in your leg because it makes you 16 times more likely to have blocked blood vessels in your legs and feet.
Smoking costs Virginians $1.92 billion a year in healthcare costs.
The tobacco industry spends $528 million each year marketing its products in Virginia.
Each year, the tobacco industry contributes over $2.5 Million to political parties and federal candidates.
Most Virginia kids who don't smoke say it's because they want to stay healthy.
If you smoke and you break a bone it can take longer to heal.
If you smoke when you're young it can stunt your lung growth.
Smokers are three times more likely to get out of breath when they play sports.
Smoking can make you look old when you're still young.
Kids in Virginia who smoke are more likely to say it's because they are addicted than any other reason.
Every day, 3,000 young people become regular tobacco users and 4,800 smoke their first cigarette.
Tobacco smoke makes your hair and clothes stink!
Tobacco stains teeth and causes bad breath.
Nicotine narrows your blood vessels and puts extra strain on your heart.
Kids who start smoking are more likely to get lower grades in school.
Smoking can wreck your lungs and reduce the amount of oxygen available to your muscles when you play sports.
Tobacco is the most widely grown non-food crop in 120 countries - 10 to 20 million people could be fed if food crop was grown in its place.
Burning tobacco is the main source of indoor pollution in the developed world.
One whole tree is needed to cure the tobacco for 300 cigarettes.
Smokers have more back pain than non-smokers.
By age 11, kids of mothers who smoked more than 10 cigarettes a day during pregnancy are shorter and below average in reading and math than kids of non-smoking mothers.
A person who uses 8-10 dips or chews a day receives the same amount of nicotine as a heavy smoker who smokes 30-40 cigarettes a day.
:evil:  :twisted:
Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Dante on October 02, 2005, 12:05:01 PM
Quote from: "ummita"Carry out all necessary pros-checkin in dat ONCE SENTENCE............n giv me d feedbck! (she smiles). All d post ppl had up there no one said CLEARLY: SMOKING IS HARAM & so so verse in d Quran testifies it! If there is make una holla.....make I reach ma ppl begin dey preach!

Jazakallah Khair............2 all knowledgeble contributory comments.


What other proofs do u need? Do u believe that what eva one does to harm himself is commiting a sin?

IF you du then...   Hey by the way i'v been thinking whether u...

Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: ummita on December 02, 2005, 02:40:11 AM
Quote from: "Dante"
IF you du then...   Hey by the way i'v been thinking whether u...

NO BIG DEAL BUT PLZ COMPLETE UR STATEMENT........ :evil:  & ALL I NEED IS JUST ONE GOOD SWING :evil:  [/b]
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Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Dante on January 04, 2006, 04:11:32 AM
Quote from: "ummita"
Quote from: "Dante"
IF you du then...   Hey by the way i'v been thinking whether u...

NO BIG DEAL BUT PLZ COMPLETE UR STATEMENT........ :evil:  & ALL I NEED IS JUST ONE GOOD SWING :evil:  [/b]
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.   :D  

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Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Hafsy_Lady on January 07, 2006, 02:53:55 AM
*COUGHING REAL BAD*, NO KWAMENT. WHAT DID DANTE SAY THAT DESERVED BATTING?

SUBHANALLAH.....DANTE & UMMITA, FIGHTING IN THE ISLAMIC FORUM....

AND TWO OF YOU, YOUR ARGUMENTS AND COUNTER ARGUMENTS HAVE REALLY LEFT ME CONFUSED.

PLUS MALAM KOFA CAME AND RAZZMATAZZED THE WHOLE PLACE WITH MEDICAL EVIDENCE, I TAUGHT THOSE TWO; ONE WITH A SHIELD AND THE OTHER WITH A BAT.....WANTED RELIGIOUS EVIDENCE? :?

NIDAI MY KNOWING ON THIS ASPECT IS ALLAH WA'ALAM
Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: admin on January 07, 2006, 10:29:38 PM
Assalamu alaikum;

Please no fighting here... we may have to delete the fighting posts from here...

Thanks.
Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Hafsy_Lady on January 27, 2006, 12:09:08 AM
 I was only joking and instigating Uncle Salis. lol
Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: admin on January 28, 2006, 11:19:37 PM
Assalamu alaikum;

Also no joking here too Hafsy_Lady!
Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: ummita on February 22, 2006, 09:42:30 PM
(she laffs) Allah yer karanmiki......(big mouth), got urself included.........[/b]

Quote from: "hafsylady"PLUS MALAM KOFA CAME AND RAZZMATAZZED THE WHOLE PLACE WITH MEDICAL EVIDENCE
[/color](She laffs)......its true thou.....

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I RECENTLY CAME ACROSS CONCRETE EVIDENCE, UNDENIABLY PROVEN UP BY ISLAMIC SOURCES......THAT ALTHOUGH SMOKING TO DETRIMENTAL TO HEALTH, IT IS NOT HARAM BUT STANDS AS MAKRUH!!!!!.......................
(Phew)!! At long last,..... didnt I say it was Makruh? Now tell me whose right after all? (tongues out....*trrrrrrrr*)(she laffs)
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Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: dan kauye on February 23, 2006, 01:42:04 PM
Quote from: "ummita"(she laffs) Allah yer karanmiki......(big mouth), got urself included.........[/b]

Quote from: "hafsylady"PLUS MALAM KOFA CAME AND RAZZMATAZZED THE WHOLE PLACE WITH MEDICAL EVIDENCE
[/color](She laffs)......its true thou.....

(http://www.artbismillah.org/assets/images/autogen/a_Salaamu_Alaikum_wa_rahma...gif)

I RECENTLY CAME ACROSS CONCRETE EVIDENCE, UNDENIABLY PROVEN UP BY ISLAMIC SOURCES......THAT ALTHOUGH SMOKING TO DETRIMENTAL TO HEALTH, IT IS NOT HARAM BUT STANDS AS MAKRUH!!!!!.......................
(Phew)!! At long last,..... didnt I say it was Makruh? Now tell me whose right after all? (tongues out....*trrrrrrrr*)(she laffs)
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Ummita,

Why you keep running around in circles(in this thread) remain an enigma to dan-kauye.Do you think Islam condones actions that are detrimental to a muslim's health? I think you shud think twice about letting ur personal interest override the wave of truth that lies in this thread,remember that in threads like this your opinion reflect in someone's actions.Besides, a good Muslim avoids even makhruh.Your point?
Title: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: ummita on February 23, 2006, 04:30:02 PM
Wait wo!
Did I say smoking is not detrimental to health? Didnt I also state that alarm has been raised on the health effects of smoking which makes it not acceptable though not haram but makruh?...............What Dante said was: its totally haram & what I said is that it is Makruh & everyone knows of the health effects. Kofa also has a long list above.

What personal interest do I have here? lol...........We are just discussing about a habit that some consider totally haram & others have given a different opinion.....And seriously how can my opinion reflect on someones action lol when "I" myself heard....."no its haram" & "no its makruh"?
Whether a good muslim avoids makruh is not what we are trying to understand rather whether it is TOTALLY HARAM OR MAKRUH so dat I fit go preach my pipu well!

Dante, I dugged out this dusty old thread cus I got infos......make I post?
Title: Re: SMOKING IN ISLAM
Post by: Dante on November 14, 2011, 11:29:41 PM
Salaam,

Pfeew, Its been a while,.. Am glad i found this thread..
Agreed 100% that smoking is makruhi after many many years of research.

So as eating kola nut??

:)