Assalamu alaikum,
Jos is on fire again and many lives lost. What do we do to stop this senseless killings.
Allah ya sawake wannan bala'i. You know I was studying in Jos when the first riot in 2001 took place. I was so fortunate that i survived. When the whole thing started and rumours get to poly I didnt know what came to my head i just jump into my car and left. Even forgeting my folder.
As I was driving home I saw people running and falling down I wasnt panic but i dont knw why i left. I stop to pick people up on the road coz i see they are panic and running but they refuse to enter seein i'm Hausa.
I almost got home then I remembered i forgot my folder in class, I was scared my friends will take the mick out of me i decided to come back. As i approach near the poly there was black smoke in the air and people where indicating to drivers to turn back. Within few min the place had turn chaos.
The solution to these probs I guess is to find a neutral person to go into the jos different ethnic societies and interview the youths and the elders, so the real problem could be acertain. Because most time it was the elders that are consulted however some of these elders do not really understand/know the real demand of the society.
You know Nigeria is a kind of society where elders are given so much respect. Which makes it difficult for the younger ones to really express theirselves in the present of their elders.
If Kaduna can do it then Plateau can do it again.
The greatest problem is the people that perpetrated the first crisis are not punished. It is very hard to see the person that killed your brothers and sisters or destroyed your wealth living freely. Definitely everyone will want to avenge his/her loss.
If however the culprits are punished the need for revenge will be less or even no more.
Jos is a very complicated issue. The truth of the matter is,the native people want the Hausa/fulani people out of jos completely. This is impossible.The people have no where but Jos.
The BBC hausa service interviewed Kaduna states' former governor,Makarfi and asked how he handled the Kaduna crisis then. He said the main thing is to identify the root of the problem and the get the stakeholders and start finding a solution.
Kaduna just like Plateau has both muslims and christians. While the Kaduna state govt is not biased in appointments,the plateau state govt is almost wholly one sided(native christians) and the govt officials make careless statements that clearly show their bias and hatred towards the hausa/fulani.
Another very important issue that need to be addressed and which i believe causes more harm is the way the Nigerian media reports the crisis. They are hardly ever balanced in their reports. The always want to point fingers at either Muslims or christians. It is clear that the newspapers sell more papers when such crisis occur and therefore try to publish whatever rogue story their 'sources' tells or whatever any christian or muslim body says. In my own opinion the ethics of balanced reporting should be applied and caution be exercised when reporting such crisis.
Why would people that have been living peacefully together for God knows how long just turn against each other overnight.
The society needs serious re-orientatioin.
The native people of Jos should know that a town cannot be made with just one tribe or religion.You must mingle with people from other tribes and religion. The more we try to understand each other the better our society.
Assalamu alaikum,
Nearly 150 Nigerians have been killed and dozens injured in three days of clashes between Muslim and Christian gangs in the central city of Jos, where police imposed a 24-hour curfew.
"On Sunday evening we buried 19 corpses, and 52 yesterday. As of now, there are 78 at the mosque yet to be buried," said Muhammad Tanko Shittu, a worker organizing mass burials at the city's main mosque, adding 90 people had been injured.
I don't believe for a second this is spontanoues. It is premeditated. And I shudder to think of the reportage had this been happening in Kano/Bauchi/Maiduguri. Frankly the bias and lopsidedness of the media coverage whenever the muslims are at the receiving end is sickening. I just hope the situation is brought under control as soon as possible. A spillover would be devastating. This goes to show how unprepared the govt is in protecting its citizens.
The best thing that, scatter Plateau state into
Kaduna, Bauchi, Taraba and nasarwa
kila yai solving problems din.
Har yaishe za a zauna after 3 to 2 years
ace ankashe 1000,2000.
Haba an dai maida mutane kamar kiyashi
Salam,
Speechless. :o :o :o
May Allah restore normalcy in the city, and punish the culprits, amin.
This cycle of violence has to stop.
You kill my brother today, I kill yours tomorrow!
Why cant our leaders from all tribes and religious leaders come together to salvage this city.
Selfish interests of any kind will not see us through.
posterity will record today's leaders as FAILURES if they continue to push the youths on this path of destructyion.
May All ah restore normalcy in the beautiful city of Jos.
We who were born there about 40 years ago and grew up there never knew of these discriminations.
May Allah cleanse Jos of this spirit of Madness
The way the plateau state commissioner of police handled the crisis is very unproffessional.
Imagine a commissioner stating in a press conference that the muslims started the crisis by attacking christian worshippers in church.
Even if that is the case he shouldn't have announced it in a press conference as it would only incite more violence and besides it shows how biased the police are.
The government and people need to find a permanent solution to this unending crisis.
We cannot live like this.
Salam,
Leave the irresponsible man alone, GGNK. Wallahi I pity our Muslim brothers and sisters living in Jos; they witness apparent unfairness, injustice and shameless bias in virtually every walk of their lives. So helpless and miserable.
Matter of fact: nearly every objective media--local, national and international, that reported the crises factually said Christian's youth, who opposed one Alhaji's intent to rebuild his house burnt down during the last violence, instigated the conflict. Started from that scene, the violence escalated. They (Christian thugs, who are the majority and have government "silent" support) sneaked to neighbouring villages, e.g. Kuru village and massacred defenceless women and children and threw their maimed, mutilated bodies to wells and pit latrines.
That undeniable fact notwithstanding that lax police officer (and even one commissioner in the state, which I can't recall his name and post) spat that nonsense expecting world to believe. Thanks to God even Human Right Watch reports otherwise.
Yesterday,while reading the papers i noticed that the man (think his name is anting or something) is no longer the comissioner. There's an acting police commissioner in Plateau now.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.He has his own part of the blood lost.
May Allah bring peace to the City of Jos.
I pray those behind this violence have a positive change of heart, if they harden their hearts may His judgment sweep them all away.
Ma Salam
Quote from: gogannaka on January 27, 2010, 01:01:59 PM
Yesterday,while reading the papers i noticed that the man (think his name is anting or something) is no longer the comissioner. There's an acting police commissioner in Plateau now.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.He has his own part of the blood lost.
What exactly happened to him? I didn't hear.
Quote from: mallam on January 28, 2010, 12:17:57 AM
May Allah bring peace to the City of Jos.
I pray those behind this violence have a positive change of heart, if they harden their hearts may His judgment sweep them all away.
Ma Salam
Amin to your prayers.
While we are praying for jos, fedral Govt. should take decisive measures and ensure that all culprits are punish and victims to be adequately compasated if not this problem will continue and it will >:(be surely difficult for the federal Govt. to contain it saboda rai baifi rai.
Quote from: gogannaka on January 27, 2010, 01:01:59 PM
Yesterday,while reading the papers i noticed that the man (think his name is anting or something) is no longer the comissioner. There's an acting police commissioner in Plateau now.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.He has his own part of the blood lost.
He was "redeployed". Aikin banza kawai. The man should have been summarily dismissed and prosecuted.
crisis comes in so many different forms, just like the genocide in
ruwanda between hutu and tutsis who came from the same back
ground and religion, the boko haram incident in maiduguri and other
neighbouring states to the sectarian crisis in present day jos and
the recent outbreak of peace in sokkoto state are all issues that
could be attributed to lack of community effort in seeing that disputes
are resolved at a very tender period.
in between the periods of durable peace and stable peace, our govt,
community leaders and the people in general have 100% of taking
control of the situation. however, when it matures to unstable peace,
then may be the international community could come in so as not
to allow it to fully ripe into the crisis mode.
we should all note that, the present situation in jos is at the stage of
crisis and if serious majors are not taken, definitely it will reach the
peak of crisis which will turn to a full-blown WAR and only Allah
knows the casualties that will be recorded.
now, this issue is far above jos or indigenes of jos alone, the federal
government should either come in full force, create avenue right
from community level and address issues between the people. It
is possible to either punish or forgive offenders, but it is very
necessary that they be identified publicly, just as it happened after
the ruwandan crisis where the conventional courts could not offer
solutions.
everybody must be involved, if not, this is not about religion,
because, bundles of christians have been saved by muslims, like
wise, bundles of muslims have been saved by christians during the
jos crisis -
wishin you guys happy weekend, we are off to our villages where
there is no network, bye.
Good sense. THIS IS NOT ABOUT RELIGION says Dan Borno. It is probably about land, economic advantage, ethnicity and lots of other factors but religion will be dragged into it by people with an axe to grind.
Jos on fire again.
Action begets reaction.
Berom were said to have killed fulanis in the last crisis.
Now Fulanis have attacked beroms.
Its a mess honestly.
I believe a state of emergency should be placed in Plateau.
Ato! Ai ga irinta nan. The circle of violence, once started, knows no end. Lokacin da aka karkashe fulani, aka kashe/sace masu dubban shanu, ba abinda akayi. Yanzu gashi sun dau fansa. Something drastic needs to be done about Plateau State, or it will plunge the whole country into chaos.
500 people killed in one day. When will this madness stop?
http://maxsiollun.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/several-hundred-killed-in-jos-%E2%80%93-again/ (http://maxsiollun.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/several-hundred-killed-in-jos-%E2%80%93-again/)
When will this end.
I'm sure the biroms are now planning on how to avenge.
The intelligence community has failed in this country.
The interesting and sad thing about the whole thing is the unabashed and shameless bias of the media. Now that apparently the beroms are at the receiving end, virtually all the papers ran the story on their front pages. And this time around, the reader is left in no doubt about the culprits. We were told in clear terms that the Fulanis or the hausa-fulanis or the muslims have attacked the christians beroms. When the muslims were massacred in January, women and children killed and stuffed in wells, very few of the papers put that as a cover story. And even then, they only made reference to 'rampaging youths' or it is 'a clash between hausa-settlers and berom natives'. Isn't it funny that the Plateau state govt, who always work very hard to hide teh true number of casualties, is now at pains to exargerate the numbers of casulties in this case? The CNN was there "live" to capture the burials of the victims. The UN and the US all expressed their "profound shock" at this appalling deed. But where were they when the Muslims were massacred, the fulanis killed and their cattle killed and burnt alive?
No excusing what happenend, as it is inhuman to kill a fellow being, not to mention children. But when the authorities show blatant bias towards a particular people, and refused to do anything when the same ethnic genocide was committed against them, then you are virtually inviting them to avenge themselves.
Well said.
The most biased of the newspapers is thisday.
They are the only ones that claimed the attack was carried out by 'hausa-fulani' tribesmen.
The Governor clearly made mention of daily trust newspaper for claiming that the attack was a reprisal
attack by the Fulani's to avenge their own massacre in Kuru jenta and Kuru karama,where bodies of entire families were killed,burnt and stuffed in wells.
It is a shame because had the governor read any other newspaper he wouldn't have said so.
GGNK ya ka rigani fada: well said, BKGZ. I wholly subscribed to your posting.
I had no intention to browse today, let alone visit any discussion forum for I kind of "divorce" discussion forums because of some reasons personal. But scanning here and there through newspapers, discussion fora/forums and the likes I came to sign in and compose this short and hopefully precise reply.
How everybody rants over that killing of Berons alleged to Fulanis is unceasingly surprising. Although inhuman but it's obviously a reprisal. Can't we remember what was done to non-combatant and defenceless people—women and children as well at Kuru in January? Nothing is yet to be done. Then why now? Why all the brouhaha; for instance E.U, U.S, France, etc all talk. Other national, state and local media and individuals are still talking.
Hmm. Let's be fair and just and use our God-given commonsense. Lets "gauge" something here: are the lives of those killed (at Kuru and stuff in wells and pit latrines) not lives? Why was virtually everyone mum? And why is everyone talking? What is the difference between the two groups of people?
Life is no better than life.
Muslims are not cowards; and at the same time not terrorists. But the impulse that can drive someone to revenge a pain inflicted to him by another is something inert. Everyone knows that. Thus I can justifiably say the recent action was more called for than the first one. Both inhuman and condemnable and reprehensible.
Muhsin
Daily trust
The Plateau State government and the Police Command have disagreed over the number of people killed during the recent attack on Dogo Nahauwa, Zot, Rasat and Kutgot villages in the state.
State Police Commissioner Mr Ikechukwu Aduba said at a press conference yesterday that a total of 109 people died while the state Commissioner for Information Mr Gregory Yenlong maintained that over 500 people were killed by Fulanis in the affected villages.
Speaking with newsmen, Mr Yenlong said the police were only being economical with the truth of the matter, saying, "As Commissioner for Information, I led both national, local and international media to the affected villages, journalists saw the people massacred and counted them, even members of the communities whose people were killed are alive and they know that they lost over 500 people".
Briefing newsmen yesterday in Jos, Police Commissioner Ikechukwu Aduba said the 500 and 371 credited to the state government through its Commissioner for Information was fabricated and should be disregarded.
Aduba said, "We have only one mass grave designated for the burial and body count of those buried was done in the presence of both government and police officers including the state Commissioner for Information. Those buried at the mass graves are 70, that includes 12 male children, 26 female children, 16 female adults, and 16 male adults", he said.
He said people buried by relations privately in Barikin Ladi were 18, Dogo Nahauwa 12 and those that died in the course of treatment at the Jos University Teaching Hospital were nine which brings the total number of casualties to 109. This figure is authentic and undisputed, he said.
Aduba said they arrested over 200 suspects in two categories, the first category includes 49 Fulanis who were arrested immediately after Dogo Na Hauwa. He said they owned up to carrying out the invasions and killings in the villages and that they were on revenge mission. He said investigations showed that some of the Fulanis were paid while some of them were volunteers but so far, they had not revealed the identities of their sponsors.
Mr Aduba said the police also arrested 151 people in Mangu and other surrounding villages for unlawful possession of prohibited fire arms and dangerous weapons and unlawful assembly
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It is reported that during the last crises before the dogo na hauwa one, whenever the governor was told that 3 mosques have been burnt he would ask the commissioner to add 3 churches as well, so that the equation would balance.
Likewise when he is told that 10 muslims were killed he would ask them to add 10 christians to balance on paper.
Even his deputy governor was surprised when she saw in the report that the church which she just prayed was reported to have been burnt. She called the pastor and he told her that he has just been receiving calls of condolences while he was right inside the church.
One man told me that he went to the church that was said to have been burnt by the Muslim youths (as claimed by the former police commissioner) during the first riots and to his surprise, the church wasn't burnt.
This Jang is just a menace to the society.
He got a tongue-lashing by the military for stating that he called them before the attack but the military failed to deploy soldiers to the areas. I have never heard the nigerian army dishing out such strong statements. Clearly they were really angered by his lies. Both the Director of the Army Public Relations and the GOC 3 Armoured Division, Jos, spoke at lengths, condemning him. Gaskiya mutumin nan ayi sauri a dauki wani mataki a kan shi.
Quote from: Bakan~Gizo on March 12, 2010, 02:51:22 PM
He got a tongue-lashing by the military for stating that he called them before the attack but the military failed to deploy soldiers to the areas. I have never heard the nigerian army dishing out such strong statements. Clearly they were really angered by his lies. Both the Director of the Army Public Relations and the GOC 3 Armoured Division, Jos, spoke at lengths, condemning him. Gaskiya mutumin nan ayi sauri a dauki wani mataki a kan shi.
You see Bakangizo, Jang is one kind fellow that I have ever seen in my life. He does not hide his ethnicity struggle. His own is not intrisically shown but explicitly expressed just to satisfy his personal diatribe ego. A method that is always dangerous and calamitous to unsmart leaders. He may be consumed by it if care is not taken. May God save Jos from the likes of Jonah Jang.
Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim
'Innocent Fulanis being arrested in Jos'
News
Written by Misbahu Bashir
Friday, 12 March 2010 06:20
Innocent Fulani herdsmen are being arrested over the killing of Berom people in some villages in Jos recently, a Fulani leader said yesterday.Alhaji Saleh Bayari said at a press conference in Abuja that local Fulani pastoralists are being arrested over the recent killing of Beroms in Jos and all those arrested are innocent.
He said those who carried out the killings have fled, adding that herdsmen who did not participate in the killings should be set free.
"Tens of herdsmen have been killed on the International Cattle Route that passes through Rasat and Dogo Nahawa villages by suspected Beroms. The herdsmen from Chad, Niger and Cameroon pass through this route. When they will come to avenge the unprovoked killing of their women and children, other local herdsmen will not know. So it will be most unjust and wicked to arrest the local Fulani as those that killed the Berom's at Dogon Nahauwa. 49 innocent Fulani herdsmen have been arrested by the police among 200 suspects. The police failed to mention the tribal identities of the 151 suspects mostly found with dangerous weapons," he said.
Gaskiya Bamalli ba karamin ustaz bane. Kaga labarin sa harda bismillah aka fara ta!
Waziri,what has his saying bisimillah have to do with being an uztaz?
Are you being sarcastic?
Ai gaskiyar waziri ne. Nima da na fara ganin bismillah na dauka wa'azi zai yi. ;D ;D
Wai naji an ce za ai passing a bill at senate or HoA a hana aika youth corpers from other parts of Nigeria to serve in Plateau state? I welcome the move. If it comes to my kids time to serve and they are sent to Plateau, I will not let them go!!! Ni dama a samu some way of ostracizing these plateau natives su ji if life is an island especially as they are hemmed in from all sides. Shi kuma Jonah Jang, if he doesnt get his comeuppance in this world, there is always the next. He cant live another 60yrs nan gaba ko? and if he does, how sure is he that it will be all pleasure and no negative consequences?
i watched the debate LIVE, the motion i think was moved
by a member from cross river state. however, members
from plateau state and hon. abdul ningi in particular lashed
out the proposal because of its negative implication to a
federal system which i also concur.
what happened in jos to some corps members was really
a tragedy which the federal government must take the
responsibilities just the same way a youth corp got accidented
and killed en-transit to his deployed state due to bad road
or inability of the government to control armed robbery. it is
also in the same foot when youth corps died of poor health
while on active service, so the problem is not about jos on
fire, but a complete overhaul of the system.
to those serving corps who died in various places and in a
different manners, may their soul rest in perfect peace.
Assalamu alaikm,
Again they are getting ready to kill 'settlers and people of oherv religion'.
Security agents have arrested six men who were trying to smuggle 27 rifles from Maiduguri to Jos, where internecine ethno-religious violence left hundreds dead since the beginning of the year.
Another man was also arrested with 25 guns, which he hid in a taxi wagon loaded with dried fish and planned to take to Wukari, Taraba State, also a zone of religious and tribal clashes.
Security sources in Maiduguri said the arrests of the two sets of gunrunners were done through combined efforts of the State Security Service (SSS) and the state police command, who acting on intelligence information trailed the suspects and nabbed them.
Borno state police commissioner Ibrahim Abdu confirmed that security men intercepted a number of rifles in two vehicles, but he declined to provide details so as not to scupper investigations.
Daily Trust learnt that the Jos-bound weapons were intercepted in a vehicle last week by men of the State Security Services (SSS), and the six yet-to-be-indentified men caught with the guns were being held in Maiduguri pending investigations.
As for the Wukari-bound guns, security sources told our reporter that on Thursday night, a commercial driver simply indentified as Haske was caught in a Peugeot 504 wagon carrying 25 AK-47 rifles and hundreds of rounds of ammunition just when he was about leaving Maiduguri.
Haske had on board four women, who loaded the vehicle with dried fish, heading to Wukari.
A source said a separate truck carrying dried fish belonging to the women was also intercepted in Damboa, about 100 kilometres west of Maiduguri, which is on the Biu-Numan-Jalingo-Wukari road.
Daily Trust learnt that when they were arrested, the women insisted that they were dried fish traders who regularly transport their commodities from Maiduguri for sale in Wukari, were they reside.
When our correspondent visited the Baga road motor park yesterday, some officials of the National Union of Road Transport Workers who pleaded not to be named confirmed that one Haske was arrested with guns and that he hailed from Wukari and was travelling there.
They also said that the man usually conveyed women trading on dried fish who often charter his vehicle from Maiduguri to Wukari.
"The women came here, loaded fish in a big truck as usual and left by a chartered wagon. That is how they usually do so that they could arrive earlier with some fish and take advantage of market the following morning before their main consignment arrives.
"They left on Thursday and we heard that police intercepted the truck carrying fish around Damboa after the women were arrested. But it's like the women were released because they had nothing to do with the rifles," one of the road transport officials said.
Daily Trust could not immediately confirm if the women were actually released or were still being held.
Jos, Plateau State, has been a hotbed of killings between the native Beroms and the so-called Hausa/Fulani settlers since 2004.
In Wukari, six people were killed, while mosques and churches were destroyed earlier this month in religious clashes
Sad indeed. I can imagine the media outcry if those arrested with the weapons were muslims. Hypocrites!
Bombs going off on Christmas eve.
Boko Haram taking responsibility.
What is this turning into?
What needs to be done?
I am just clueless!!!
^^^ You are not alone, GGNK. I am also completely clueless and can't understand what's going on. But that does not preclude me from distrusting that so-called responsibility claiming by Boko Haram. :o