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General Board / Re: Private Universities approved.. where are we???
« on: May 20, 2007, 02:26:26 PM »
Malama Fateez, thank you for helping me clarify my position. You are indeed correct. The rich I refer to are those who amassed their wealth through "non-governmental" means.

I understand your position on corrupt political office holders Hajia Husna. Yes, they betrayed the trust that the people put in them. I am not a person accustommed to discussing political issues, because in all honesty, I have been directly affected by their "actions and in-actions" more than you would know, and therefore I have completely lost hope in our political elite. That is why I am forced to remind you that the crux of this Post is not on whether or not political office holders are guilty of corruption, or whether or not they should invest stolen wealth in education (both issues on which you may be correct and obviously much more well informed than my humble self). What we are discussing here is the future of education in the north and how we can rebuild our social and economic fabric to match the very best in the world.

Malama fateez, I agree with you that we have enough institutions in the north and that fixing them may be a better option. But you fail to see the logic in my argument. The present crop of Institutions are government owned. Therefore, fixing them will depend on the will of the government and the integrity of our leaders, which as Hajia Husna has convincingly pointed out, is a hopeless case. Therefore my logic is that private institutions founded on sound ethics and principles will give the economy much needed flexibility, are more susceptible to change and less embedded in the government’s "un-ethical" tendencies.

This is a BBC report Excerpt:

In his recent visit to Latin America, the pope Benedict, speaking in Spanish and Portuguese to the bishops in Brazil's holiest shrine city, also said Latin America needs more dedicated Catholics in leadership positions in the media and at universities.
"This being a continent of baptized Christians, it is time to overcome the notable absence -- in the political sphere, in the world of the media and in the universities -- of the voices and initiatives of Catholic leaders with strong personalities and generous dedication, who are coherent in their ethical and religious convictions," Benedict said.

This captures my point hajia. The private uni's we see in the south are aimed towards achieving just this. It's not the next few years I'm worried about, It’s the whole impending generational loss I am concerned about. We either re-adapt or we continue to suffer.

We need institutions that train the next generation of leaders, technocrats and great visionaries upon which the north may rely. If our present crop of institutions, constantly suffering from the neglect of government, could give us this, then Alhamdulillah. We both know that government Institutions as we have them now will take forever to reform. I am a product of ABU zaria and while there I swam in political circles and therefore I can categorically tell you that if we're waiting for those set of leaders as the leaders of tomorrow, then tomorrow will be very dark indeed. Hence my advocacy for better oriented, better operated, more globally focused, yet culturally unique first class institutions with which we can reclaim our heritage. This is quite simply my point. If we can achieve these with the present crop of institutions and political leaders, then Alhamdulillah. If not, then we have to consider alternatives. One of which in my opinion, is private Institutions. Salam.

General Board / Re: Private Universities approved.. where are we???
« on: May 20, 2007, 12:58:48 AM »
Alanguro (Dan Borno) and Hajia Husna, please permit me to disagree with you. It's a shame that we have grown to think that the rich owe us anything out of their wealth. We have to understand the glaring difference between zakah and sadaqah.

The only obligation on the path of the rich is Zakah for which wars were fought in ancient times. I can say that nearly all our rich people pay their Zakah as is obligated on them. Whether or not we approve of their methods, so long as they adhere to Islamic injunctions, how they choose to pay their zakah is entirely up-to them. Any additional expenditure on their part would constitute sadaqah, for which they are under no obligation what-so-ever to pay. While Allah encourages sadaqah, it is by no means compulsory. Therefore, as with such voluntary issues, the inability of anyone to give sadaqah and the corresponding reward/punishment (if any) can only be judged by Allah, not by us.

Having said this, our educational system requires a lot more than 2.5% zakah payments from the wealth of our rich, to bounce back. The idea is to develop an economically viable system of educating the people. The private universities springing up in the south while relying immensely on capital funding from private parties, are built on solid business plans that would aim to give these institutions financial independence from their original founders.

Our fundamental problem is that we lack vision. We lack solid discipline for long term business management, and we’ve lost a great sense of the organisational discipline Islam has given us. The mere fact that we feel any rich person is obligated to us is a reminder of our problems. We have to see our solutions lying in not relying on anyone but on proffering credible and sound business ideas and principles upon which we can found buoyant, long lasting, flexible, dynamic and efficient learning organisations.

I admire the organisational energy our brothers from the south have. But I am always quick to point out that our vision and organisational acumen is a lot better, the only problem is that we have grown to rely on what other people have and think of them as ours. That has to stop. The rich owe us nothing. They may (with a very big question mark) however be willing to invest in education, should we have a more robust and solid organisational strategy with which we’ll ensure that their investments are not wasted. Unfortunately, we don’t have that. We’d rather waste our time castigating them.

Malama Fateez, I wish to kindly point out that I have no problem with going to study in the south. But you have to see the wider picture. The presence of educational institutions, imply the presence of a system to train all classes of people within a state’s social fabric, from leaders to civil servants. Ideologies, leaders and professionals (Doctors, Lawyers, and Architects) are born and developed and armed with the right frame of mind to fit into and develop the region as a whole. Education is a source of identity and an underlying catalyst for development. Investments for development will be stunted with a stunted educational system and so many other issues as well. Therefore, the shortage of such educational institutions and the loss in the quality of the present one’s is a source of major concern, which is all that I intended to point out.

General Board / Re: Hama vs Fatah;What a demoralizing?
« on: May 17, 2007, 11:21:18 PM »
personally, while I believe the sanctions played and are still playing a part in this present escalation, I think the underlying problem is an old one. Hamas and fatah have always been silent rivals in the palestinian lands. Peace prevailed because up until now, Hamas did not stake any claim to political power.. (as my friend waziri wisely points out, when there exists and underlying interest, even friends can become enemies)..

The point of friction arose when Hamas vied for political power as well... they're both fighting for supremacy n they're using the avenue they both knw best.. where no straight rules exist and where only the last man standing shall take it all... The palestinian problem as deep and complex as it is, is further saddening when you see them turn on themselves and destroy what little they have. They fight themselves and their percieved common enemy laughs. They loose sympathy daily from those who thought genuine development may be possible in Palestine. I wonder how, despite the donations and funding they get from the Arab nations (evidence proves they do get a lot), there doesnt seem to be an idea for long term development. they blame Isreal continously, bt how much of that blame really belongs to Isreal? When the Prophet (S.A.W) was forced from Makkah, to madinah, what did he do?.. He consolidated his power base in Madinah, developed the city, its people and the city's overall capabilities, gradually expanding to recapture his home.. While I genuinely respect Arab courage, they have to realise that sometimes Pride is stupidity and sometimes you have to accept defeat whole hertedly today in order to win tomorrow...

This may sound naive, but shouldnt Hamas and Fatah channel the funds they use to acquire amunition to pay their people and develop there communities or even equip a national army, Palestine woul've been a much better place..

Its not hamas and its stubborn leadership that I am worried about, neither is it Fatah and there curropt and weak officials I am concerned about..
My concern is for the poor palestinian woman who wants nothing more than food to feed her children. I close my eyes and I imagine her tears n prayers, day and night, hoping that maybe, just may be, one blessed day, her children may see a better day...

General Board / Private Universities approved.. where are we???
« on: May 03, 2007, 07:45:21 AM »
As-salam alaikum,
The federal government has just given approval for the setting up of more private universities across the country.. they are ..

Ogbong University, Akwa Ibom State;
Caleb University, Ikosi, Lagos State;
Fountain University, Osogbo, Osun State;
Tansian University, Umunya, Anambra State;
Veritas University in the Federal Capital Territory,
Wesley University of Science and Technology, Ondo State.
Western University, Oghara, Delta State.

Ikon Allah.. all these Universities are in the south ... closest to the north is FCT, haba jama'a..!!!!...

Jama'a I am deeply saddened.... despite the fact that we are the most educationally handicapped part of the country, and our rather dis-organised private sector is virtually small and medium scale, we dont seem to be making any efforts to fix these....Jama'a where are we?. How do we sort out our very many problems?.... Ina Arewa? ... What future lies for us?.. Do we keep waiting for a Sardauna type leader?...What do we do?....

Allah ya taimake mu....

General Board / World's oldest college graduate..
« on: April 27, 2007, 06:02:45 AM »
By CARL MANNING, Associated Press Writer
Thu Apr 26, 7:52 PM ET

HAYS, Kansas - When 95-year-old Nola Ochs graduates next month, she will be the world's oldest college graduate. The record Ochs will break, according to Guinness World Records, belongs to Mozelle Richardson, who at age 90 in 2004 received a journalism degree from the University of Oklahoma.

On Thursday, the Kansas Legislature honored Ochs with praise and standing ovations.

Ochs did not plan to break records. She started taking classes at a community college after her husband of 39 years, Vernon, died in 1972. A class here and there over the years, and she was close to having enough hours for an undergraduate degree.

Last fall, Ochs moved the 100 miles from her farm to an apartment at Fort Hays State University to complete the final 30 hours to get a general studies degree with an emphasis on history.

An added joy for Ochs is that her 21-year-old granddaughter, Alexandra Ochs, will graduate with her.

"How many people my age have a chance to hang out with their grandmothers? She's really accepted by the other students," Alexandra said. "They enjoy her, but probably not as much as I do."

With her white hair pulled into a bun, Nola Ochs walks purposely down hallways to classes with her books in a cloth tote bag. Students nod and smile; she is described as witty, charming and down to earth.

"Everybody has accepted me, and I feel just like another student," she said. "The students respect me."

She added: "I don't dwell on my age. It might limit what I can do. As long as I have my mind and health, it's just a number."

Todd Leahy, history department chairman, wondered at first if Ochs could keep up with the other students. After her second week, all doubts were gone. Now he wants to record oral histories with her after she graduates.

"I can tell them about it, but to have Nola in class adds a dynamic that can't be topped," Leahy said. "It's a firsthand perspective you seldom get."

For instance, Ochs offered recollections of the 1930s Dust Bowl — skies so dark that lamps were lit during the day, and wet sheets placed over windows to keep out dust that sounded like pelting sleet hitting the house.

"We should all be so lucky and do such amazing things. Her achievement challenges us all to reach for our own goals and dreams," said Tom Nelson, chief operating officer of the American Association of Retired Persons.

Ochs is proudest of being the matriarch of a family that includes three sons — a fourth died in 1995 — along with 13 grandchildren and 15 great grandchildren.

After graduation, Ochs might travel or take some more classes at a community college. And after that, "I'm going to seek employment on a cruise ship as a storyteller," she said, smiling.

Islam / What is Islam's alternative to democracy?
« on: April 25, 2007, 10:23:45 AM »
Assalamu alaikum,
I happen to be present in a series of lectures in which a few Ulama continually declared democracy as Kufr.. It was not an isolated insidence and in further consultation with others like myself, who are not so learned, that seemed to be a recurrent theme. They had bits of justification which honestly I dont entirely agree with, but it may be that it is I who does not truely understand. Therefore I am seeking clarification from anyone who might know. Is democracy haram in Islam?.. If so dear brothers and sisters.. WHAT IS ISLAM'S ALTERNATIVE TO DEMOCRACY?. and how can it be implemented considering the complex nature of Nigeria and indeed, the world today?

I honestly understand your emotional difficulties and we extend our deepest sympathies. Its’ understandable when people who aren’t Muslims treat you with suspicion, but when Muslims do so as well, that must be really hard. Sadly however, that is a growing norm in Islamic societies even within our own country, Nigeria.

Tribal, religious and sectarian differences are threatening to erode the common values which we’ve shared for so long, and worse of all, we the next generation seem not to even care about healing this divide. Ignorance is prevalent and there is absolutely no respect for the rule of law, two basic ingredients for anarchy, indiscipline and reckless action in the name of religion….. Forgive me, I digress…

Your approach to life is excellent and your reaction to the challenges is most impressive. I urge you to patiently keep it up, to reply every criticism or mockery meted out to you with kind words and good actions, and to keep patient even in times of hardship. Its’ hard, I know (trust me I really do), but “surely with difficulty comes ease” (Qur’an 94:5)... That is the teaching of Islam.

I once lived (for a few weeks) in a community where-in I was one of very few Muslims. We got along exceptionally well with the other members of the community, and because our prayer areas were separate from our sleeping area, they had no idea that I was a Muslim. When eventually I told them, to my surprise and amusement, they argued with me that it was either I was lying, or that I’m not a “true” Muslim. There reasoning was that during our stay, we had never fought and where the occasional scuffles happened between two parties, I was always part of the solution.

We had talked often, respected each other and we were all doing beneficial societal work. That, they believed, is so unlike what Muslims are. As far as they were concerned, Muslims represent dependency, embarrassment, violence, oppression, greed, backwardness, narrow mindedness etc…… I wasn’t at all surprised by their words. Its part of the things you hear all around, criticism a chunk of which in all honesty (in my opinion) may be justified.

Therefore, you’ll hear a lot and you’ll be exposed to a lot, but bear with patience and respond only with kindness and good words, because in the words of the alchemist, “when seemingly worthless lead is well heated and tested, it turns to its purest form, it turns to gold”…

Also remember that despite the harshness of the criticism you may hear, if you’re objective enough and patient enough to withstand it and listen carefully to it, you may learn something new about how you can further improve yourself.

It’s very nice to hear from you. We may not have solutions to your problems, but we definitely will be here to help you live through it.

P.S., please forgive my earlier response to your other post, it may have sounded rude. You’ll find information about the Mali mosque in the documentary on Islamic history and architecture I put up in another post.

General Board / When Euope was ruled by Muslims
« on: April 20, 2007, 11:27:36 PM »
Hi all, Assalamu alaikum,

This is a rather facinating documentary i came across titled "WHEN THE MUSLIMS RULED EUROPE"..  Its a rather interesting documentary and has a lot of salient issues worth discussing .. please EVERYONE have a look and pass your comments and let's discuss ... we stand to learn greatly from each other.. even from those who criticise us the most...




General Board / Islamic History and Architecture
« on: April 17, 2007, 01:08:09 AM »
Assalamu alaikum,

The UK's channel 4 sometime last year showed a very interesting documentary on the development of Islamic Architecture. This is an interesting eye opener particularly for those GENUINELY interested in learning about Islam and Islamic history..

I have put this here particularly so that some basic questions can be answered for those seeking answers. If for any reason (for which i doubt if there would be any) you find this offensive, my apologies.

This is the link,

Warning..!!! .. If you have any preconcieved notions and therefore do not watch this with an open mind, you stand to miss the point and to be completely disappointed.. 

General Board / Re: Seems like no one want to answer my question???
« on: April 17, 2007, 12:34:59 AM »
Salam alaikum,
I am no professional historian bt even in my present state, drowning in Naivity with regards certain issues, my first step in search of clearity would have been to tap from the abundant resources available on the internet, not ask on forums like these. Even where some of your questions can be answered, History happnd through thousands of years and cannot be recounted through replies on posts.

With all politeness, I might also suggest you check your nearest Library, because I'm sure history books abound. Judging by the fact that you have internet, I'm sure you would have access to a library or even GOOGLE!! where you could probably search and find Usman Danfodio's house if you so please...

Forgive me, take no offence in my words, but quite honestly you are looking for very good information in the wrong place. Its like planting apples in the desert. No matter how good a farmer you are, the tree wont grow... Look elsewhere.. u may find better luck.

General Board / Re: Hallo!
« on: February 17, 2007, 02:32:59 AM »
Wow Waziri, we havent met for a long time but u seem to still be well on top of your game. I followed your argument as "ammar" and while i find a few faults in your argumentation process (not neccessarily the validity of your arguments), I have to say i was very impressed with the way you handled the whole thing.  Kudos to you.

Hello to everyone,
I have found myself following posts on this website for well over a year, this will officially be my first post. while I've found a few of the posts quite amusing considering the level of naivity and ignorance reflected, i have to say the depth of discussion is very impressive.

Though I think of myself as an author, I consider myself a novice who has come to learn from seasoned masters grilled in the art of logical presentations and sound arguments, and the ability to raise and iron out otherwise thorny issues in a civilised manner..... It promises to be an eventful expedition.

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