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« on: August 30, 2004, 03:47:45 PM »
there is no doubt that islam forbids suicide.and yet amongst some opperessed muslims the concept of the suicide bomber is actively being promoted.surely,someone who has no respect for his own life,the gift that was given to him under great pain by his mother can have no sense of moral values?should muslim do more to counter this futile mentality and mindset .does the suicide bomber do more immense harm both to islam and those left to face the actions.often the suicide bomber has no regard to fellow muslim being maimed or killed by his actions.this must be wrong i see, there is a world of difference between being martyred in war in defence of muslims and to deliberately blowing yourself up simply to cause devastation amongst your perceived enemy. ISLAM IS A SIMPLE RELIGION WITH FLEXIBLE RULE N EASY PRINCIPLES.

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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2004, 05:59:55 PM »
SAAHIB 92 Gentleman......

I strongly advice u ....on this ur lovely write up......but If Usama hear this you go Jam wahala oooooh ..........

That is sooo lovely I recommend this write up for all muslim brothers and Sisters.

got to stop here cos.......  I will continue nxt time bye just for now.
IF U DON'T DEFINE URSELF 4 URSELF U WOULD BE CRUNCHED INTO OTHER PEOPLES FANTASIES OF U AND EATEN ALIVE"

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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2004, 06:36:34 PM »
Interesting questions adn good points Saahib 92.

Sometime ago I raised the same objections on this forum, and I came away with the impression that anything goes as far as it is against the Jewish nation. Maybe you will get a better answer.

Btw it seems u are relatively new to this forum. Welcome to Kano Online!! :D

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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2004, 12:02:39 AM »
SAAHIB 92

to kafa tumtube rigima? bari na gayama gaskiya, bazaka samu amsa ba annan. Ama Allah ya taimake mu ya kuma budemana ido mugan gaskiya. Let me ask my troublesome question, so why are people not commenting or responding? This are very interesting and important points raised.  just remember that a dialogue will educate alot of people in this forum on this subject matter especially non muslims and marginal muslims.  So I sincerly hope the muslims in this forum will contribute

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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2004, 01:53:50 AM »
thats a good one but one can find suicide bombers
in other religions as well.
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MALLAMT,LIONEGER.......REPLY OR RESPONCE WAS NOT MY PROBLEM
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2004, 09:37:38 AM »
HELLO MY DEAR BROTHERS.

thanks so much 4 ur sponteneous response on the issue of our brother in islam OSAMA BIN LADEN .of course am a new voice in this forum,and i ve found it imperative to air my views since an oppoturnity to that effect was given.but u know what i was a little bit aback by the way some freinds re' making their contribution. i ve expect some hot topics,vital informations,sharing details,and self enlightement abt our people,ourselves,our dear mothers and lovely ones.instead some had prefer to dance the tune of so called LOVE indirectly,or crack some unneccessary, unpleasant jokes......no objection that is their own way.....

but for me, and through me i knew there re' nice people like u guys whose not only realise themselves,but understood their immidiete environment and re' always tryin to sort things out on behalf of the rest.so what u have just said is ok and appreciated.

thank u very much. sorry last not the least REMEMBER....IF U DIDN'T BLOW UR OWN TRUMPET NO ONE WILL BLOW IT FOR U  :lol:
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2004, 09:57:20 AM »
Assalamu alaikum,
This topic is very interesting and thus want to share this article on Jihad with you.....
Jihad - A Misunderstood Concept from Islam
A Judicial Ruling (fatwa) Issued by Shaykh Hisham Kabbani and Shaykh Seraj Hendricks, 1998
It cannot be over-emphasized that Islam upholds the values of reason, balance and responsibility in the conduct of its worldly affairs. There is nothing arbitrary about its legal provisions relating to matters of war, peace, international relationships and the rule of law. In this area there is considerable agreement between Islamic law and the legal systems currently practiced throughout the world. In addition to the real possibility that these legal systems were profoundly influenced by the legal heritage of Islam, this commonality can be explained by the fact that the protection and endorsement of basic human rights form the cornerstone of Islamic legislation.
The international community has come to agree, through the institution of the United Nations, on a body of human rights and interests which Islam has always endorsed. This ought not to surprise anyone if the basic realism, rationality and pragmatism of Islamic law is recognized.

The critics of Islam, however, insist that Islam and Muslims are openly hostile and intolerant towards communities other than their own. They refer to the Qur’anic verses that exhort the believers to fight the infidels, they point to the battles of early Islam and the eventual confrontation between the Crusaders and the Saracens or Moors, and now, the contemporary stereotype of the Arab "terrorist".

It must be noted that many Orientalists might object to this characterization of their views on the question. Indeed many of them subscribe to more nuanced positions. More recent scholarship has completely abandoned the emotionally-charged vocabulary of earlier Orientalism. It remains true, however, that Islam is still imagined as threatening, fanatical, violent and alien by significant sections of the world's media.

In formulating an answer to all of this, it is crucial to focus on a general definition of Islam, so as not to fall into any misunderstanding about Jihad and its place within the Din. The common expression that Islam is a "way of life" has become hackneyed to the point where we can well do without it. Islam is more accurately described as “establishing the kingdom of heaven on earth.”

This latter statement must be carefully understood if we are to avoid the superficial moralizing or equally misleading literalism that characterizes much contemporary thinking about Islam. It is far from desirable to simply quote, as an apparent show of understanding, scriptural support for this or that personal opinion we may have about a particular subject. Neither is it enough to use Qur’anic or Prophetic texts without adequate knowledge of the human situation and cultural milieu in which they were revealed and first applied, as well as the precedence of some verses over others based on order of revelation or abrogation.

In other words, context and circumstance of Qur’anic revelation and Hadith are crucial in coming to terms with Jihad. It is an error to judge Islam and Muslims in the light of the kind of "Jihad" that has fallen victim to ideological tendencies. The critic also has to be wary of the interpretation of "Jihad" which is projected, and sometimes imposed, by the selective "religious reformism" so rampant today. They ignore central aspects of Islam’s intellectual heritage, selectively repress important figures and disregard Islam's impeccable history of adherence to the standards of law and justice in affairs of state.

 

Jihad in History and Law

This being said, let us now consider the nature of Jihad more fully as it appears in the history and law of Islam. Jihad in Arabic means "to strive for some objective". Thus, the common assumption, that Jihad is combat, is incorrect. In fact Jihad, in its technical meaning, has several branches, among which are the combative forms of Jihad.

Ibn Rushd, in his Muqaddimaat, divides Jihad into four kinds: "Jihad by the heart; Jihad by the tongue; Jihad by the hand and Jihad by the sword." He defines "Jihad by the tongue" as "to commend good conduct and forbid the wrong, like the type of Jihad Allah (swt) ordered us to fulfill against the hypocrites in His Words, “O Prophet! Strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites” [9:73]. So the Prophet (s) strove against the unbelievers by sword and against the hypocrites by tongue." Said Ramadan Buti, a contemporary Orthodox scholar from Syria states, in his seminal work on the subject Jihad in Islam "… even before he conducted Jihad by sword against the unbelievers, there is no doubt the Prophet (s) invited these unbelievers peacefully, lodged protests against their beliefs and strove to remove their misgivings about Islam. When they refused any other solution, but rather declared a war against him and his message and initiated the fight, there was no alternative except to fight back."

One form of Jihad, usually overlooked in today's pursuit of newsworthy headlines, is the Jihad of presenting the message of Islam-da`wah. Thirteen years of the Prophet's (s) 23-year mission consisted purely of this type of Jihad. Contrary to popular belief, the word Jihad and related forms of its root word <jahada> are mentioned in many Makkan verses in a non-combative context.

Combative Jihad in the technical usage of Islamic law means "the declaration of war against belligerent and aggressive non-Muslim powers or against fellow Muslim transgressors". It is not a haphazard decision taken by anybody. The principles of Islamic jurisprudence state that the actions of the leader must be guided by the interests of the people and that the interests of the collectivity has, in some cases, precedence over the interests of the individual.

 

Jihad and Islamic Propagation

God states in the Qur’an, "Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance." [16:125]

Calling people to Islam and making them acquainted with it in all its aspects through dialogue and kind persuasion is the first type of Jihad in Islam, in contrast to the imagined belief that Jihad is only of the combative form. This is referred to in the Qur’an where Allah (swt) says, "so obey not the disbelievers, but strive against them (by preaching) with the utmost endeavor with it (the Qur’an)" [25:52]. Here the word "strive" <jaahidu>, is used to mean struggle by means of the tongue—preaching and exhortation—and to persevere despite the obstinate resistance of some unbelievers to the beliefs and ideals of Islam.

Imam Nawawi in his book al-Minhaj, when defining Jihad and its different categories, said, "one of the collective duties of the community as a whole (fard kifaya) is to lodge a valid protest, to solve problems of religion, to have knowledge of Divine Law, to command what is right and forbid wrong conduct".

The explanation of Jihad in Imam al-Dardir's book Aqarab al-Masalik is that it is propagating the knowledge of the Divine Law commending right and forbidding wrong. He emphasized that it is not permitted to skip this category of Jihad and implement the combative form, saying, "the first [Islamic] duty is to call people to enter the fold of Islam, even if they had been preached to by the Prophet (s) beforehand." Similarly, Imam Bahouti commences the chapter on Jihad in his book Kashf al-Kinaa by showing the injunctions of collective religious duties (kifaya) that the Muslim Nation must achieve before embarking on combative Jihad, including preaching and education about the religion of Islam, dismissing all the uncertainties about this religion and making available all the skills and qualifications which people might need in their religious, secular, physical and financial interests because these constitute the regulations of both this life and the life to come. Hence, da`wah—performing the activities of propagating Islam and its related fields of knowledge—is the cornerstone of the 'building' of Jihad and its rules; and any attempt to build without this 'stone' would damage the meaning and reality of Jihad.

Removing all misconceptions and stereotypes in clarifying the image of Islam held by non-Muslims, building a trusting relationship and working with them in ways that accord with their way of thinking, are all primary forms of Jihad. Similarly, establishing a strong community and nation which can fulfill all physical needs of its people, thereby creating for them conditions in which the message will be heard, rather than being lost in the strife and struggle of everyday life, are requirements and form a basic building block of the Jihadic concept. These foundations fulfill the Qur’anic injunction, "Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is right, and forbidding what is wrong: and these it is that shall be successful." [3:104] Until this is accomplished the conditions of Jihad remain unfulfilled.

 

Forced Conversion?

So the foundation of Jihad is Islamic propagation (da’wah). The question often asked is whether Islam condones and teaches the forced and armed conversion of non-Muslims. This is the image sometimes projected by Western scholars and as any Muslim scholar will tell you, is seriously flawed. The Qur’an clearly states "There is no compulsion in religion, the path of guidance stands out clear from error" [2:256] and [60:8]. In this verse, the word "rushd" or "path of guidance" refers to the entire domain of human life, not just to the rites and theology of Islam.

There is no debate about the fact that pre-Islamic Arabia was a misguided society dominated by tribalism and a blind obedience to custom. In contrast, the clarity of Islam and its emphasis on reason and rational proofs excluded any need to impose it by force. This verse is a clear indication that the Qur’an is strictly opposed to the use of compulsion in religious faith. Similarly, Allah addressed Sayiddina Muhammad (s) saying, "Remind them, for you are only one who reminds." [88:21] Allah addresses the believers, urging them to obey the injunctions of Islam, "Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and beware (of evil): if you do turn back, then know that it is Our Messenger's duty to proclaim (the message) in the clearest manner." [5:92] However, this verse makes it clear that the Messenger's duty is only to proclaim and preach the message; it remains to each individual to accept and to follow.

 

Conditions for Combative Jihad

The ruler, the Imam, is completely answerable to the people and their legal apparatus, the most important representatives of whom are the scholars. The position of the law is that only at such a time when it can be reasonably proven that;

 there are aggressive designs against Islam; and,
 there are concerted efforts to eject Muslims from their legally acquired property; and,
 that military campaigns are being launched to eradicate them.

At such a time the ruler can declare and execute the provisions of Jihad. It is a condition that there be a leader of the Muslims, an Imam, to declare combative Jihad. In al-Mughni, Ibn Qudama states "declaring Jihad is the responsibility of the Imam and is his independent legal judgment." Al-Dardir says, "proclaiming Jihad comes through the Imam's assignment of a leader". Abu Bakr Al-Jazaa'iri states that the pillars of Jihad are: "A pure intention and that it is performed behind a Muslim Imam and beneath his flag and with his permission. …it is not permissible for them to fight without an Imam."

Similarly the ruler, the political leader of the whole country, has the power to ratify peace treaties if they are consistent with the interests of the Muslims. Conscription has to be confined to young men of sound health on condition that they have parental permission to engage in combat. The exception is where the enemy has already entered the borders of a Muslim state in which case Jihad becomes unconditionally incumbent on every able man.

 

Islamic Terms of Ratifying Peace

Allah said, "Enter into peace completely and do not follow the steps of Satan." [2:208] The Prophet (s) said, after establishing the Islamic state in Madina, that the way of the Muslims is one. No single group can autonomously declare war or fight, nor can any one group make peace by itself, but the entire Muslim nation must make peace. A peace treaty can be made by the nations’ leader and all subjects of the nation are bound by that decision, regardless of whether the leader was appointed or elected. The final decision is up to the ruler after his consultation with others.

If a state has no leader then it must select one, or all the neighboring states and nations must come together and agree on a treaty with any foreign country. This applies as much to peace as it does to war. No individual or group may come forth and declare a Jihad: such will be a false Jihad. All Muslim nations and their leaders must come together for a decision of war or peace and that is the only accepted process.

Naturally every community has the right to self-defense and in the case of Islam, where religion is the primary dimension of human existence, war in defense of the nation becomes a religious act. A lack of understanding of this quality of Islam, its non-secularism; has also contributed considerably to the fear that when Islam talks about war it means going to war to convert. This might be true in other cultures, but Islam must be allowed to speak for itself.

Al-Dardir says of this, "Jihad becomes a duty when the enemy takes [Muslims] by surprise". Said Ramadan al-Buti shows that fighting in this case is an obligation of the community as a whole. This is based on the Prophet's (s) saying "He who is killed in defence of his belongings, or in self-defence, or for his religion, is a martyr".

This verse mentions a fundamental principle of Islam regarding Muslim/Non-Muslim relationships. Muslims are enjoined to act kindly and justly towards members of other faiths except in two circumstances; firstly, if they dispossess Muslims of their legitimate land-rights, and; secondly, if they engage in hostilities towards Muslims or show clear intent to do so (al-hirabah) because of their religion with a clear intention to destroy the Islamic nation as a whole. In the second eventuality, it is the duty of the Muslim ruler to declare the Jihad as a defensive action to repel such attacks.

It is evident from the Qur’an and other sources that the armed struggle against the polytheists was legislated in the context of specific circumstances after the Prophet (s) had migrated from Makkah to Madina. There he secured a pact with the Jewish and Arab tribes of the city, who accepted him as the leader of their community. In the milieu of this newly-founded base of operations, under the governance of Divine legislation and the leadership of the Prophet (s), Islam attained the status of a nation with its corequisite territory and the accompanying need to protect its self-interests. At that time the divine command was revealed permitting Jihad, but this occurred only after:

 Persistent refusal of the Makkan leadership (the Prophet being in Madina at the time) to allow the peaceful propagation of Islam in Makkah. This is in fact the most basic reason for armed Jihad.
 Continuous unabated persecution of Muslims remaining at Makkah after the Prophet’s (s) emigration to Madina triggered an armed insurrection against Qurayshite interests in the Hijaz.
 Makkans themselves starting off military campaigns against the Muslims at Madinah with the sole objective of eradicating Islam.
 Key security pledges being abrogated unilaterally by a number of tribes allied to the Prophet (s), forcing him into a vulnerable position.

These conditions for Jihad involving armed struggle were then clearly specified in the Qur’an:

"And fight in the way of Allah those who fight against you, and do not transgress [limits] for Allah likes not the transgressors" [2:190] and "Will you not fight a people who have violated their oaths and intended to expel the Messenger while they did attack you first…?" [9:13]

The picture that emerges here is that the command to fight was given in relation to specific conditions. Thus the declaration of war is not an arbitrary act at all. A further implication here, as the Hanafi school in fact argues, is that war was declared by the Prophet (s) as the head of the Islamic nation, and as such no one else can legitimately declare Jihad except a ruler who is head of an Islamic state. The duty lies squarely with the religious/political leadership to determine whether the conditions for Jihad exist and to then give the appropriate judgement.

In later times, the Muslims engaged in warfare to establish the "Pax Islamica" or Islamic Order. The legal and political order must flow from the divine imperative (Qur’an, Sunnah, etc.). It alone guarantees the rights of every individual by keeping in check all the dark psychic tendencies of man and so preventing him from indulging in anti-social behaviors, from political aggression, right down to the commonest criminal act. It is for this that the Qur’an calls on the believers to go forth in defense of those whose rights and liberty have been trampled by the unbridled tyranny of oppressors and conquering armies, or who are prevented from freely hearing the word of Allah espoused to them by preachers and educators. Allah says, "How should ye not fight for the cause of Allah and of the feeble among men and of the women and the children who are crying: Our Lord! Bring us forth from out this town of which the people are oppressors! Oh, give us from Thy presence some protecting friend! Oh, give us from Thy presence some defender!" [4:75]

No reliable evidence exists that Muslims ever intended or attempted to impose the specific rites and beliefs of Islam. The histories of Spain, India and the Balkans are concrete proof of this.

The idea, often postulated in the media, that Islam is hostile to non-Muslims simply because they are non-Muslims, is a major a misconception. Beyond the conditions described above there exists no valid reason to hold any hostility towards them for the Qur’an states: "Allah does not forbid you from those who do not remove you from your homes (by force) and who do not fight you because of your religion, that you act kindly and justly towards them ..." [60:8] The reference in this verse is to the non-Muslims in general.

 

Jihad Between Muslims

Properly speaking Jihad, in the case of internal dissension, only occurs when these two conditions—a just Imam fighting unjustifiable insurrection—are met and the Muslims fight in support of the Imam against the offending parties. In Islam allegiance and obedience to a just authority is obligatory. It must be noted also that rebellions against authority and especially political authority simply for the sake of rebellion have no place in the concept of Jihad. In this age of relativism, the spirit of rebellion seems to have penetrated every layer of society. However, Islam and its principles cannot be made subservient to these cultural trends.

In some of the contemporary "Islamic" groups, Jihad has been adapted to a virtually Marxist or Socialist concept of class revolt aimed at overthrowing the authority of the state. In the often fervently materialistic milieu of contemporary political and revolutionary ideologies, Islam is inevitably reduced to nothing more than a social philosophy. This reductionism simply amounts to an abysmal misunderstanding of the essential function of Islam, which is to turn the "face" of the human receptacle away from the world of disharmony and illusion to the tranquillity and silence of Divine awareness and vision. Inward Jihad, as we alluded to at the beginning of this essay, has a key role to play in this respect.

 

Rebellion Against Rulers

The scholar Ibn Nujaym said "it is not permitted for there to be more than one state leader (Imam) in a time period. There may be many judges, even in one state, but the leader is one." Al-Bahjouri said "It is an obligation to obey the leader, even if he is not fair or trustworthy or even if he committed sins or mistakes." Abu Hanifa's school says that the head of the state, the Imam, cannot be expelled for being a corrupt person (fasiq). Hudhaifa bin al-Yaman (r) narrated a hadith in which he said, "The Prophet (s) said, 'there will be after me leaders who do not follow my guidance and do not follow my sunna, and there will be among them men whose hearts are like those of satan in the body of a human being.' And I asked the Prophet (s), 'What I should do at that time if I reach it?' He said, 'listen and obey the ruler, even if he lashed your back and took your money, listen and obey.'"

In another narration, Auf bin Malik (r) said, "O Prophet of Allah, do you recommend that we fight them?" He said, "No, don't fight them as long as they do not prevent you from your prayers. And if you see from them something that you dislike, dislike their acts, do not dislike them. And do not take your hand out from obedience to them." Bukhari and Muslim narrated from Abdullah ibn al-Abbas (r), "if someone dislikes his ruler, he must be patient, because if he comes against the ruler in a rebellious or destructive manner by only a handspan and dies, he dies in a state of pre-Islamic ignorance (jahiliyyah) and sin."

These source texts are clear evidence that whoever lives under a particular government must obey the ruler and live peacefully. They are prohibited from taking up arms against him. Uprising or violence by any group against the ruler is completely rejected in Islam, and was prohibited by the Prophet (s) and will be a cause of death on the way of ignorance (jahiliyya). Thus Islam considers rebellion against the ruler a great iniquity. These hadith affirm that one must be patient with one's ruler, even if he commits oppression. These hadith refer to the leader of a nation, not the leader of a small group. Therefore groups that take up violent struggle against their regimes are prohibited in Islam and are by default illegal and blameworthy.

In fact the true path to correction of the mistakes of a ruler is according to the hadith "a most excellent Jihad is when one speaks a word of truth in the presence of a tyrannical ruler." Note here the hadith does not mention fighting the ruler, but rather praises the one who corrects the ruler by speech. Armed and violent opposition to a state regime can never be recognized as Jihad in the way of Allah, despite the claims of many groups. Unfortunately we see today countless individuals and groups who label their rulers and their governments apostates or unbelievers, thereby giving themselves the excuse to declare "jihad" against them, asserting that this is because they do not rule by what was revealed to the Prophet (s). Even worse, they go further by terrorizing and killing government officers, members of the armed forces and public servants, simply because they are easy targets. These groups use a "militant Islamic" ideology to justify such felonious action, declaring the ruler, the government, and its officers to be criminals standing in the way of "true Islam", who must be eliminated. Thus, those who are innocent of any crime, but who are earning a living and raising their families, such as officers and officials of ministries and departments, county and city officials and police, become targets of these extremist ideologues. Such groups do not hesitate to kill them in surprise attacks, terrorizing the entire nation by blasting here and there and harming the innocent.

If the ruler commits wrong, it is not permitted to label him an apostate, nor to indoctrinate people to use militancy to oppose him. In the time of the Prophet (s) after the conquest of Makkah, a Companion named Hatib ibn Abi Balta, assisted some of the enemy by supporting them extensively and passing them secret information. It may be that no one today supports a tyrannical ruler as Hatib supported the unbelievers at that time. When questioned as to his motives, Hatib replied, "O Allah's Prophet! Don't hasten to give your judgment about me. I was a man closely connected with the Quraish, but I did not belong to this tribe, while the other emigrants with you, had their relatives in Mecca who would protect their dependents and property. So, I wanted to compensate for my lacking blood relation to them by doing them a favor so that they might protect my dependents. I did this neither because of disbelief nor apostasy nor out of preferring disbelief (kufr) to Islam." Allah's Prophet (s), said, "Hatib has told you the truth."

We see here that the Prophet (s), though fully aware of Hatib's actions, never considered him to be outside the fold of Islam, nor did he inflict any punishment on him. Regarding Hatib and his support of the unbelievers Allah revealed the following verse: "O you who believe! Do not take My enemy and your enemy for friends: would you offer them love while they deny what has come to you of the truth, driving out the Messenger and yourselves because you believe in Allah, your Lord?" [60:1] Though the verse reprimands Hatib, showing him in the wrong, nonetheless Allah (swt) did not take him out of the state of faith yet continued to address him with the honorable title "O you who believe", despite his assisting the enemies of Islam.

This constitutes proof that even if someone assists a regime that does not support Islam, one cannot harm that person as the Prophet (s) did not inflict any punishment on Hatib. One wonders then how today so many groups freely label those working for the government as renegades and apostates, and issue fierce edicts to kill them? Their work with the government might be for their livelihood, or for building a bridge of trust for the Islamist community to ensure a better future relationship or a better understanding of Islam. Such actions are baseless in Islam and are founded on an extremist ideology, far removed from the middle path which always constitutes this blessed religion of Allah (swt).

 

The Inner Jihad

Islam is not a rhetorical religion, it is based on unity, love and rational action. Soon after the Prophet’s (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) death, Islam radiated outwardly from its earthly center, the Ka’aba, implacable symbol of the faith. Jihad was the dynamic of this expansion. Outwardly it embodied the power of Islam against error and falsehood, while inwardly it represented the means of spiritual awakening and of transcending the self. Referring to this, the Prophet (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said while returning from battle: "We are now returning from the lesser Jihad to the greater Jihad , the Jihad against the self." The Prophet (s) is reported to have said during the Farewell Pilgrimage, "... The Fighter in the Way of Allah is he who makes jihad against himself (jahada nafsah) for the sake of obeying Allah."

The means of the combative Jihad, the sword, was adopted and internalized by Islam as the charismatic symbol of sacred warfare. It symbolizes the qualities of strength and vigilance, indispensable for the spiritual wayfarer in his quest for illumination and the beatific vision. This symbolism deeply inspired Muslim artists and craftsmen. In calligraphy, for example, one finds the sword-motif embossed in gold and silver as the initial letter of the testimony of faith, the shahada. Historical evidence and current practice indicate that this symbol often forms a central feature of cultural events of the Muslim world, such as folk-dancers sporting gleaming blades as they chant and move to rhythmic Sufic recitation.

Allah says in the Holy Qur’an, "Those who have striven for Our sake, We guide them to Our ways" [29:96] In this verse, God uses a derivative of the linguistic root of the word“Jihad” to describe those who are deserving of guidance, and has made guidance dependent on Jihad against the false desires of the soul. Therefore, the most perfect of people are those who struggle the most against the selfish promptings of the ego for God's sake. The most obligatory Jihad is that against the base side of the ego, desires, the devil, and the lower world.

The great Sufi Al-Junayd said: "Those who have striven against their desires and repented for God's sake, shall be guided to the ways of sincerity. One cannot struggle against his enemy outwardly (i.e. with the sword) except he who struggles against these enemies inwardly. Then whoever is given victory over them will be victorious over his enemy, and whoever is defeated by them, his enemy defeats him."

 

Dhikr: the Remembrance of God

The Prophet peace be upon him said: "Shall I tell you something that is the best of all deeds, constitutes the best act of piety in the eyes of your Lord, elevates your rank in the hereafter, and carries more virtue than the spending of gold and silver in the service of Allah, or taking part in Jihad and slaying or being slain in the path of Allah?" They said: "Yes!" He said: "Remembrance of Allah."

Thus one finds the principles of the spiritual Jihad are based on eliminating the ugly, selfish and ferocious characteristics of the ego through spiritual training and mastery of dhikr, the Remembrance of God. This remembrance takes many forms: each school of Sufism focuses on a different form of ritual dhikr to enable the seeker to approach the Divine Presence, varying from individual silent recitation and chanting to vocal group sessions. It is this spiritual struggle that raises humankind and instills in him the sense of relationship with His Creator, and the proper perspective in relating to all creation, always calling for love between humanity and striving in Allah’s Way for better understanding between various communities of all faiths. Through this spiritual Jihad the effect of the selfish ego on the soul of the seeker will be removed, uplifting his state from depression, anxiety and loneliness to one of joy, satisfaction and companionship with the Most High.

Shaykh Hisham Kabbani is Chairman, Islamic Supreme Council of America and Shaykh Seraj Hendricks is a Mufti in Cape Town, South Africa
In the Affairs of People Fear Allah (SWT). In the Matters Relating to Allah (SWT) Do not be Afraid of Anybody. Ibn Katthab (RA).

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Re: suicidal-murderers or martyrs?
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2004, 10:22:12 AM »
Quote from: "SAAHIB 92"
there is no doubt that islam forbids suicide.and yet amongst some opperessed muslims the concept of the suicide bomber is actively being promoted.surely,someone who has no respect for his own life,the gift that was given to him under great pain by his mother can have no sense of moral values?should muslim do more to counter this futile mentality and mindset .does the suicide bomber do more immense harm both to islam and those left to face the actions.often the suicide bomber has no regard to fellow muslim being maimed or killed by his actions.this must be wrong i see, there is a world of difference between being martyred in war in defence of muslims and to deliberately blowing yourself up simply to cause devastation amongst your perceived enemy. ISLAM IS A SIMPLE RELIGION WITH FLEXIBLE RULE N EASY PRINCIPLES.

MA'ASSALAM[/b]


Mallam SHAHIB, Assalamu alaikum,

Let me first of all remind of a Hadith of the Holy Prophet (SAW)
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A person came to the Blessed Prophet and asked, "A man fights for treasure, another for fame and a third for bravery. Whose fighting is for the Cause of Allah?"

The Blessed Prophet answered, "The one who fights so that the Word of Allah becomes supreme, his fight is for Allah. (Agreed)

A physical Jihad may only be initiated for three reasons:

1) To defend the Muslim community against aggression.
2) To eliminate an evil force which is oppressing people. And
3) To remove any barrier to the free flow of Islamic da'wah. (8:39)

Then, I will like to ask you some questions as regards your post above.
1. Do you know that most of those who resort to suicide are compelled by necessecity?
2. Do you that most of them are orphans or widows, whose parents the kuffar continue to murder, maim and rape?
3. Do you appareciate the fact that these innocent and weak people are only being subjected to these attrocities and killings because of their faith?
4. Do you that the Kuffar use all kinds of mordern weapons in killing these defencely Muslims, and nobody care to protect them?
5. May be you live in an enviornment, Kano i suppose, where you are free to practice your religion nobody therefore use Military Tanks to prevent you from going to the mosque or destroy your houses, and you are have been prvented from acquiring weaposn to defeonf yourself and equal terms with the enemy,etc,
6. Do you immagine the hardship our brothers and sisters in Islam are facing in Kosovo, Chechniya, Palestine, Jos, Iraq, etc, etc.
7. What will not do if you happens to come back home and meets your house demolised, your family members, etc, etc, etc....... ?
8. Is the person or group of persons or their collaborators, who murder Muslims only to be perceived as enemies? What does it take to be an enemy?

Do you remember that that Allah (SWT) says in the Holy Qur'an as regards those who oppress Muslims: "....Then whoever transgresses the prohibition against you, you transgress likewise against him. And fear Allah, and know that Allah is with Al-Muttaqun (the pious)." HQ S2: V194.

Please ponder at this verse.....Allah (SWT) says, “ Against them (unbelievers) make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war (tanks, guns, aircraft, missiles, artillery, etc.), to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, And others besides, whom you may not know, but whom  Allah doth know. Whatever you shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and you shall not Be treated unjustly. But if the enemy inclines towards peace, Do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah: for He is the one that hears and knows (All things).” (Q8: 60-61)

Before you answer the above questions kindly take your time and read the following verses and their tafasir:
(a) Suratul Nisai verses 71-79
(b) Surah 2, verses 190-193, 244, surah 4 verses 84, 95, Surah 8:72, 74, 75, surah 9:12-16, 20, 24, 36, 123, S47: 4, S61:11.
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2004, 10:35:14 AM »
XANKS SO MUCH 4 SHARING THIS INFORMATIVE ARTICLE WIZ ME,AS ALWAYS I WILL TRY TO PASS THE KNOWLEDGE TO OTHER FREINDS WHO THOUGTH THE SAME WAY WITH I, AND YOU.

THANK U VERY MUCH
ma'assalam
Radina billahi Rabban,
 Wa bil Islami Dinan,
 Wa bi Muhammadin Nabiyya!"

  ABBAS A YAKASAI

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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2004, 10:37:13 AM »
The first question I will ask the person who started this thread is how far can he support his conclusions about suicide bombing from the spectacle of Qur'an and Sunnah as well Usul al-Fiqh?

We must consider the truth that weare Muslims and in matters of faith and ways of life reason built on the premise of revelation is our first stepping stone. So whenever you condenm you condemn on that step and whenever sanctifify you do that only on that step. So Saahib92 we are waiting for your premise.

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Re: suicidal-murderers or martyrs?
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2004, 10:49:49 AM »
Quote from: "SAAHIB 92"
.....ISLAM IS A SIMPLE RELIGION WITH FLEXIBLE RULE N EASY PRINCIPLES.

MA'ASSALAM[/b]


I donot agree with your assertions above. What do you mean by FLEXIBLE  Rule N EASY PRINCIPLES?
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2004, 07:09:38 PM »
Quote from: "EMTL"
Quote from: "SAAHIB 92"
.....ISLAM IS A SIMPLE RELIGION WITH FLEXIBLE RULE N EASY PRINCIPLES.

MA'ASSALAM[/b]


I donot agree with your assertions above. What do you mean by FLEXIBLE  Rule N EASY PRINCIPLES?



That's exactly the same question i was about to ask him.
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2004, 08:41:03 AM »
ALLAH AKBAR!
ABILUNAH? SABILUNAH? AL-JIHAD! AL-JIHAD!

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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2004, 03:17:41 PM »
al hamza
Please keep ur responses relevant and to the point  :D

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1. Do you know that most of those who resort to suicide are compelled by necessecity?
2. Do you that most of them are orphans or widows, whose parents the kuffar continue to murder, maim and rape?
3. Do you appareciate the fact that these innocent and weak people are only being subjected to these attrocities and killings because of their faith?
4. Do you that the Kuffar use all kinds of mordern weapons in killing these defencely Muslims, and nobody care to protect them?
5. May be you live in an enviornment, Kano i suppose, where you are free to practice your religion nobody therefore use Military Tanks to prevent you from going to the mosque or destroy your houses, and you are have been prvented from acquiring weaposn to defeonf yourself and equal terms with the enemy,etc,
6. Do you immagine the hardship our brothers and sisters in Islam are facing in Kosovo, Chechniya, Palestine, Jos, Iraq, etc, etc.
7. What will not do if you happens to come back home and meets your house demolised, your family members, etc, etc, etc....... ?
8. Is the person or group of persons or their collaborators, who murder Muslims only to be perceived as enemies? What does it take to be an enemy?


This argument is not valid, and I really wish that God-fearing people such as yourselves would not resort to such excuses. Thieves steal out of necessity, but does that make it right? Any crime commited on this earth could be excused as 'necessity', or 'the only resort', but that doesn't make it right.  Even the Jews will tell you that their actions are neccesary for their survival, will you accept that argument? You could sit down with Stalin or Hitler and they would give you a thorough, logical answer as to why their reign of terror was a 'necessity'. But that can never excuse the millions of lives destroyed on their account. You are not the only ones going through such persecutions, but then we speak as if that is the reality!

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Do you remember that that Allah (SWT) says in the Holy Qur'an as regards those who oppress Muslims: "....Then whoever transgresses the prohibition against you, you transgress likewise against him. And fear Allah, and know that Allah is with Al-Muttaqun (the pious)." HQ S2: V194.


Since this is what you believe, I ask you the same questions I asked my good friend Ibro: Are your enemies to be found in the marketplace, in schools, at wedding parties? How come suicide bombers do not limit their targets to military ones? The only excuse for such behavior is hatred!

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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2004, 08:25:06 PM »
The responses have generally been very interesting and educative (with the exception of a few that added no value or direction) I am quite impressed.  I find the article posted by EMTL very interesting and equally interesting was EMTL's study or response to SAAHIB date 32/8/04.  I find the concept or arguements of the two postings opposing to each other and thus makes EMTL's take on the subject very confusing. The first article has gone to into details to tell us the origins of the term jihad and the meaning of the term in islam.  From that article the it is quite clear that jihad as it was meant to be is completely different from the generally held notion of the term.  That is to say violence is almost completely absent in islam.  But then in EMTL's other post he indicated that infact violence is quite acceptable in islam and supported his point with qoutations.  EMTL even went as far as telling us the grounds on which violence is quite acceptable in islam.  The first article he posted on the other hand tries to tell us how violence does not belong in islam and from this posting it is easy to understand that probably when veiwed from a serious islamic perspective it may be wrong to brand things like sucide bombings and what passes as jihad today to be either a muslim thing or having anything to do with islam.

 


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