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Started by Dante, September 04, 2004, 03:13:58 PM

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Who do you think is the best actor/actress?

Dan Ibro
3 (30%)
Ibrahim Mandawari
1 (10%)
Ali Nuhu
4 (40%)
Saima Mohammed
2 (20%)
Farida Jalal
0 (0%)
Hadiza Kabara
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: April 15, 2005, 07:05:11 PM

bakangizo

Quote from: "zizo"
They absolutely do NOT potray our good culture but rather they  tarnish our image
they are most times morally inadequate not to mention religiously bankrupt...
Really? Uhm, let me see... Tubali, Khusufi, Kusurwar Danga, Sansani, Khushu'i, Sutura, Kasko, Wata Rana, Mara Gaskiya, etc.  The list is long. So all these do not potray - oops! Sorry. I remember. You don't even watch them. So you won't even know.

Unlike you, most of the non-kanawas I meet in other states never pass up the opportunity of letting me know they salute the operators of the hausa film industry. I get inundated with questions about the industry plus the actors/actresses. And unlike you, I can never be pissed off if people associate me with hausa film characters, by virtue of where I come from. Rather that than people saying I behave like a character out of Western (read American) and Nigerian (read southern) movies. But of course you presumably live in Lagos. :)  Where, to the average southerner, "Malo" can never do anything right. :lol:

Lastly, for hausa film lovers, I just came across a newly released film, Farin Wata. It is a lovely film, well written and acted. The storyline is based on the advantages and likely dangers married couples encounter when living with their parents in the same house. That is when you have a Mother-in-law living under the same roof with her son and his wife.

ummita

Well.............itz dis issue we dwellin on again.............
Ma view..........I dnt lyk Hausa movies (whoaaaa) b/4 u all raise ur daggers.....lemme rant on den u can stab.....if I claim 2 hav watched 2 hausa films den I've lied. Am no fanatic 4 southern movies either & dat goes 4 western movies but dat dont mean I neva watch movies per se.

Yeah....on d whole, hausa films creates job opportunities 4 alot of ppl. An inspiration 2 SUM ppl, stars serving as role models in away 4 up n becoming inspiring actor/ress.  It is sumthin dat d hausa ppl can call dey own ryt? Creates a huge market chain, cus in ma belief enithin worth buyin  is worth sellin correct? A leisure treatment session 2 parlay on d higest level n watch wateva film u got. (well if dats wat sum ppl call chillin)But den again all these relates 2 any movie, b it western, southern or northern movie, a movie is a movie.

If ma memory serves me ryt, bout 4yrs bck, on a visit 2 a freinz grandmahs aunts couzin nephews, step brothas, uncles half aunts, house (she laffs) ok....I went 2 a freinz house n dey were watchin comedy sum lanky REAL skinny guy was a comedian.  I personally cannot & do not posses d talents he potrays. I mean making bout 12 ppl in dat sittinroom nothing but laugh is sumthin huge n dat I respect. He aint duin anything illegal, but legal, he juss tryna make a livin, well mayb d more privileged onces r used 2 havin mummy n daddy lavish n flavour dem wit dey wants n needs, mayb dat man don?t?. He juss tryin 2 make Naira?n personally 2 me he is juss lyk d regular Jim Carrey....crackin audience up, humour is gud....makes a dull day bright....yet again all these do not interest meh??..but I will not stand n belittle or degrade any hausa movie actor/tress on wat dey lyk duin best. Free world, free lyf style, freee choices. Dahhhhg! u ppl r surely........tyt on these ppl, let dem breath a lil.

Naw where ma negativity strikes a great deal is thou I do nt hav an in depth knowlegde on hausa movies. From old topic we've discussed bout films sum u wud kno.....all in all where hausa movies fanatic were pouncin on is one thing & one thing only an in d lyt of dat thing it all boils dwn 2 upholdin CULTURE!

Now wen we say culture, which culture r we tlkin bout cus in Kano alone there is a huge numba of culture practised by diff ppl , hausa, Igbo, Yoruba, Tiv, Kanuri  & Fulani (which shud even cum first in ma list, she laffs). Ok lets say dey potrayin hausa culture, fantastic! Now in all prehistoric tyms, or tym immemorial..............tell me specifically which of our culture does potrays which has been practiced since den till naw:

1.there shud exist a dancing session b/w a man & a woman soley cus dey inluv?  (puhleeeeeeeeez gimme a break!)

2.girls shud open their hair & scoot up in tuggin wears displayin their bumpers in truncks? (we got modesty in dressin, case it sounds new in ur ears).

3.tell me exactly @ which point in tym does hausa culture provide dat a gul or a guy shud sing their heart out cus dey inluv?

4.B/4 a bad story ends good, a lot of bad messages hav already been transferred 2 minds of ppl (i.e b/4 Tanko will finally bewed his heartrob Binta?..chaos upon chaos musta happened, Goggo Maryam must hav gone 2 all those lousy trad medine men 4 divine spiritual powers 2 stop d weddin cus she wants Bintas boo 4 her daughter??.bt @ d end of d day?..Tanko & Binta will surely still wed?.ryt? So why passin 2hrs of unmannerly, immorally, not socially message 2 get a good msg accross. Positive shud go wit postive. Hav I confused u enuff?

Ok mayb dats nt enuff, Islamically, accordin 2 d rules of shariah it forbids a woman 2 walk hair open, wear tuggin or provocative clothings dat cud result  a mans gaze on her, if its gaze or glimpse wudha been betta but (PROPER LOOK?.THESE MEN STARE & LOOK @ EVERY DETAIL LIKE XTRAY machines). Islam also forbids close encounters, none other dan ur muharram??but nooooo we sing close 2 each oda, & Gud lawd of merci lyk dat is not enuff.........I dunno ha dey du it but wat I dnt lyk is sum1 starin ryt in2 ma eye balls......but in d process of singin & all lovy dovy....dey ace in dat.......Addini yer fada a man or a womans gaze shud drop once eye contact has been made......these r juss a few of d forbiddens!

And some of u r here lamentin culture!culture! (I hiss 2 dat). .....Drop all dat bull n lets potray religion. It came b/4 culture??..First cum, first serve! Easy 2 potray culture, but less patriotic 2 potray religion abi? Am not perfect neither anyone is, But according 2 d Books Allah, we hav clear rules & guidance 4 us nt 2 dwell in ignorance, with my little knowledge, I hav read d whole qur?an & still learning, from I have read n learnt nothing in there displays dat we shud potray culture 2 d xtend we start makin blunders by breaching r rules of shariah. C'mon ppl wake up n smell d fish. Let?s not camouflage negativity with false claims on d positivity of culture.

Naa, if its culture dey really wanna potray, a female actress shud drop d trash n pick up d clean......lets c a gul in wrappers beautifully covered in veils, a guy in real trad clothes n if dey wanna potray culture......movies shud b shot in real mud house in d beauty of a village site, food shud b brought in calabashs, ....I can go on & on!............I kno silly as it sounds ryt cus we in d millenieums....REAL CULTURE IS FADING AWAY & Hausa film supporters shud stop using culture 2 brainswash d public @ large. So dey r not even pursuin careers n tryin 2 achieve dey own goals koh? If its all but culture, let dem giv d movies out 4 free! Kyauta ai iz part of culture koh? It juss kills meh wen I sit n read sum comments where one wud say ?ai is cus u guys western in movie fondness n all? propa bull. I hav betta grounds 2 stand b base ma dissaproval and ma justification.

I do not watch hausa films, I do not have an interest in it. I do not mynd those who make dem nor those whowatch dem. Its their way 2 make a livin, 2 pursue a dream, 2 do wat dey lyk 4 viewers, its a choice of preference????so its all fair n square but buryin this in ur minds??.religion shud b practised & preached!

2 b more controversial.......we all kno, lyin is a sin,.....n liers r sinners,  n sinners go where? If ppl put up a false act 2 make believe wat dey duin den wat hav dey done & wat r dey? (she laffs badly)

Naw?.we got betta issues 2 rant?.on, dis same topic is in kano4fum??.4 naaa, let it slide, we got better worries bout makin d betterment of our society!


Phewwww..................afta readin so many topics....I FEEL REALLY OLD N AGED, seemz lyk I hvnt been here in decades. I miss ya all.....D-Kay,Kitkat,zeeze,,Fateez,Gimbs,Twinks, Mlbash,Gogannaka......CRAZY Hafsy.......if I havnt called ur name........u juss too special 2 b mentioned

Bakan Geezo, ma late welcominz 2 u bt happy stays in k-onlyn.



LOOK HA U ALL CAN HYP N DISFIGURE A TOPIC, ALL DEY SAID WAS VOTE! & U ALL WRITIN LONG GRAMMA 4 ARGUMENT SAKE. If I had known d actors/tress I myt hav cast a vote..............
Despite ur slammin, am still jammin!!!

bakangizo

An gaisheki Ummita!  Kin fadi gaskiya da kika ce ba kya kallon fim din hausa. Wasu sai dai kawai su zo su rika kushewa bayan kuma basu san komai ba akan fims din. Abin da nake ta kokarin mutane su gane shine fims din hausa suna da sauran tafiya kafin a ce sun daidaita. Abin nufi anan shine kamar yadda kowanne irin fim ke da nashi matsala, haka suma suke da nasu. Akwai da yawa a cikin su wadanda suke koyar da tarbiyya da al'adunmu da addininmu. Im ma mutum yana so, akwai wadanda babu wadannan wake-waken da raye-raye a ciki! Musamman fims din da kamfanin Iyan Tama Multimedia ke yi. Saboda haka ni a ganina bai kamata mutane su rika jama'u gaba daya ba suna cewa babu wani abun kirki ko arziki a cikin su. Saboda haka, kamar yadda sauran fina-finai suke da abin kushewa, suma kaza-lika. Kuma kamar yadda sauran fina-finan wasu kasashe ke da abin koyi da sha'awa, suma haka!.

neozizo

Quote from: "ummita"Now wen we say culture, which culture r we tlkin bout cus in Kano alone there is a huge numba of culture practised by diff ppl , hausa, Igbo, Yoruba, Tiv, Kanuri & Fulani (which shud even cum first in ma list, she laffs). Ok lets say dey potrayin hausa culture, fantastic! Now in all prehistoric tyms, or tym immemorial..............tell me specifically which of our culture does potrays which has been practiced since den till naw:
Well any muslim should consider his/her culture to mean all the customs, practices, and social behavior of his/her particular tribe or people at a particular time which does not contravene or contradict the injunctions of islaam as laid down by Qur'an ad Sunnah in accordance with Shari'ah.
This is what i,at least, meant when i mentioned culture


Quote from: "Bakan~Gizo"Really? Uhm, let me see... Tubali, Khusufi, Kusurwar Danga, Sansani, Khushu'i, Sutura, Kasko, Wata Rana, Mara Gaskiya, etc. The list is long. So all these do not potray - oops! Sorry. I remember. You don't even watch them. So you won't even know.

Actually even though i live in Lagos,i live with people who are unfortunately addicts of huasa homVs so i am sometimes forced to endure hours of these moves,and i have seen quite a few.
But maybe i have been exposed only 2 the bad ones.ill try n get these which you have mentind.i hope they are wholesome and reprent our true culture,mentality and religion.
My problem with being associated with these characters from hausahomVs  is that they dont have orginality ie they themselves try to copy foreign cultures(formally indian but now they have graduated to american by incorporating the dress code of americans especially the women)which i believe is not representative most kano poeple and  hausa people in general.
i hope their blind following of foreign cultures if not totaly reversed should stop at dressing only.i hope and pray they do not soon incorporate "inocent" physical contact in their movies.

bakangizo

Quote from: "zizo"
i hope their blind following of foreign cultures if not totaly reversed should stop at dressing only.i hope and pray they do not soon incorporate "inocent" physical contact in their movies.
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I understand and agree with your concern. That's why Iam choosy when it comes to watching them. Some of the films like Kallabi, Bakace, Jarida, Bakar Ashana and their likes are, to me, stupid and meaningless. But like I said there are quite decent ones to watch.

Dante

Quote from: "ummita"Well.............itz dis issue we dwellin on again.............
Ma view..........I dnt lyk Hausa movies (whoaaaa) b/4 u all raise ur daggers.....lemme rant on den u can stab.....if I claim 2 hav watched 2 hausa films den I've lied. Am no fanatic 4 southern movies either & dat goes 4 western movies but dat dont mean I neva watch movies per se.


Great Post ummi. But the debate goes on 'n on..... Come one guys........  Waziri, Fateez, gogannaka, mlbash, mudacris, zezezee, hansatu, figorms, hausanicious........ i see ya all  hiding behind computer screens..... :)



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bakangizo

For the very first time, the Hausa film industry was recognized in an international award ceremony. Recently, organizers of the afrohollywood Award, a U.K. based African  organization that recognise and reward excellence in African film industries, included  the northern part of Nigeria for the first time. In a colorful ceremony in London, Ali Nuhu, after being voted the best in Hausa film genre, was given the award. Zahra'u Shata (who has retired from the industry after getting married), was voted best female category, but unfortunately could not the ceremony in London because she has just put to bed. Ali Nuhu was also specially recognised for his arewa attire at the cermony. Others given awards are Tu-Face, Okey Bakkasi, and some form other african countries.

neozizo

Its good to hear Hausa anything being given recognition outside the shores of Africa..(but id rather if it due something noble and good like finding acure for HiV or some other academic or scientific acheivment...but anyways HausaFim 'll do)
But the queation that keeps acting up in my mind is:do these people(organizers of the afrohollywood Award) really watch Hausa film and are really in touch and up to speed  on the Hausa HV industry?
Or did they just do it for the sake of including Hausa films to the African event?

jewel(abdulgee22)

But plz a good question about hausa films is that "who watches hausa film" and hw many ppl amoung u bought the latest hausa film in market?

By the way the whole thing about making films is to make money(gain), so if those ppl watching films want ..................all the ALI NUHUS and DAN IBROs DANCING and SINGING, with the karin maganas and all the things that never suits u , all u can do is "DONT WATCH IT".
i think in KANO if u will make a census of ppl that like HAUSA films with all that stuff , u will see is a high ratio. if not they would have been out of business, since!

After all ppl watched indian films b4.............with no concept of d language , so nowdays is much more simpler becus we have "black hausa indians" and ppl dey grab d whole thing.

Go to the south all their films is about  "black magic" and all those stupid stuffs of arm robbery etc.

is all about d market.

so i guess we all started with a wrong step.

by the way i vote for DAN IBRO
for those that sleep their dreams is a reality, wake up is just an illussion."

jewel of d nile.

bakangizo

Quote from: "zizo"But the queation that keeps acting up in my mind is:do these people(organizers of the afrohollywood Award) really watch Hausa film and are really in touch and up to speed  on the Hausa HV industry?
Or did they just do it for the sake of including Hausa films to the African event?
They couldn't have been watching (or following) Hausa films per se. Remember the award covers some other African countries. It would be a herculian task for the organizers to have to be watching the films, which are produced in different languages, made in all the countries. I think what they do is send their representatives to study a particular industry (quality of films produced, turnover of production and sales, etc) and then ask people who watch these films to vote for the actors/actresses they consider the best. Whatever the case, the most important thing to me was that the Hausa film is at least given a recognition. One good thing also was that Ali Nuhu was the only one at the event who wore a traditional (Hausa) dress. All the other recipients were in suits. The MC gave him a special mention for that.

neozizo

Quote from: "bakan~gizo"They couldn't have been watching (or following) Hausa films per se. Remember the award covers some other African countries. It would be a herculian task for the organizers to have to be watching the films, which are produced in different languages, made in all the countries. I think what they do is send their representatives to study a particular industry (quality of films produced, turnover of production and sales, etc) and then ask people who watch these films to vote for the actors/actresses they consider the best. Whatever the case, the most important thing to me was that the Hausa film is at least given a recognition. One good thing also was that Ali Nuhu was the only one at the event who wore a traditional (Hausa) dress. All the other recipients were in suits. The MC gave him a special mention for that.
Well...if you put it this way i realize that there is a difference between recognition and being awarded.
Like the organizers of the event,i don't really follow the industry so i,unlike them, am not in a position to say if the award is justified(or not)...but i maintain Hausa should have been recognized for more original and relevant things.
Well Nuhu's dress code,unlike many of his movies, was original and i comend him for that.

Quote from: "jewel(abdulgee22)"By the way the whole thing about making films is to make money(gain), so if those ppl watching films want ..................all the ALI NUHUS and DAN IBROs DANCING and SINGING, with the karin maganas and all the things that never suits u , all u can do is "DONT WATCH IT".
i think in KANO if u will make a census of ppl that like HAUSA films with all that stuff , u will see is a high ratio. if not they would have been out of business, since!

After all ppl watched indian films b4.............with no concept of d language , so nowdays is much more simpler becus we have "black hausa indians" and ppl dey grab d whole thing.

Go to the south all their films is about "black magic" and all those stupid stuffs of arm robbery etc.

is all about d market.

so i guess we all started with a wrong step.

by the way i vote for DAN IBRO
Hey, i beleive everybody should be free(at least within set limits of religion and decent morality anyway) to watch whatever he feels does it for him/her.y concern is that the medium of 'showbiz' is a profound mass media tool and helps to potray or set concepts or setereotypyes about its subjets.For example for majority of people abroad who don't know the firrst thing about hausaland or its people but have had the misfortune to witness the awards have now subconsiously set in their minds clips of movies they saw at the show or Nuhu in his 'dress' as the quntisential hausa man potraying all of hausa culture and traditions...just as for us who have never been to india or china expect to see people singing and dancing to love songs while running around on the streets of india or fighting each other and practicing diffrents forms of martial arts just to settle simple disputes in china.
Also just as you have pointed out,i all have a subconcious image that our neighbours from 'the south' ALL indulge in 'black magic',ocultism,robery and violence as a second nature,but on the contray i have been there and seen that the actual situation is far from what we think.

bakangizo


Dante

Ofcourse abdul they would have been outta business long time ago... and these guys r still improving in the business. A friend of mine who is in the acting business (will smith of Nigeria) was in the U.K sometime ago was telling me how it feels to be a nigerian celebrity 'n he is really happy for what he was doing. Besides.... it pays the bills.

Guys, this is a matter of choice! These days everyone is borrowing other ppl's culture be it (clothing, language, style or something else). these guys tend to like how indians dance coz it suits many ppl's lives (many Arewa's).

I know u all have tastes... be it music, movies... and ya all buy CD'z of whoeva u wanna listen to. I myself (black guy from nigeria) sometime listen to french rap music, but dont know what the **** these guys say. Its sometime a matter of what tunes u In.
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bakangizo

Thank you, Dante. In my earliest posts I try to point this particular idea out. The world is such now that cultural exclusivity(sp)? is really difficult. There is cross-fertilization of cultures. However, that is not say one is advocating a wholesale adoption of foreign cultures.

naijagal

i can say that i am a fan of the hausa film industry. watching the films lets me know more of my people and what changes are now occuring in the life of the young and old in nigeria. but there should be some minor changes in the movies. well for starters the singing and dancing should be cut from 10 min. to at least 3 min. this way the viewer can get right back into the movie rather wonder where they left off before they started dancing. another thing is the commercials that are being plugged in the middle of the movie, that throws the viewer off of the movie. also with the singing and dancing, they should do hausa music rathe rthan copy the indian way of singing and dancing. i know hausa music is more appealing withthe sound of the drums and the dancing to the drums, but besides that, i love the hausa movies and i one day would also want to star in a hausa film. " if there are any directors who are looking to film a hausa movie based on a hausa girl from america and her lost love in kano give me a call and ill be there! lol

we will call the movie " masoie na" lol  starring naijagal and adams zango
lol (all jokes)

take care everyone
aijagal, the top secret!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!