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Re: JOS ON FIRE AGAIN
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2010, 02:18:26 PM »
crisis comes in so many different forms, just like the genocide in
ruwanda between hutu and tutsis who came from the same back
ground and religion, the boko haram incident in maiduguri and other
neighbouring states to the sectarian crisis in present day jos and
the recent outbreak of peace in sokkoto state are all issues that
could be attributed to lack of community effort in seeing that disputes
are resolved at a very tender period.

in between the periods of durable peace and stable peace, our govt,
community leaders and the people in general have 100% of taking
control of the situation.  however, when it matures to unstable peace,
then may be the international community could come in so as not
to allow it to fully ripe into the crisis mode.

we should all note that, the present situation in jos is at the stage of
crisis and if serious majors are not taken, definitely it will reach the
peak of crisis which will turn to a full-blown WAR and only Allah
knows the casualties that will be recorded.

now, this issue is far above jos or indigenes of jos alone, the federal
government should either come in full force, create avenue right
from community level and address issues between the people.  It
is possible to either punish or forgive offenders, but it is very
necessary that they be identified publicly, just as it happened after
the ruwandan crisis where the conventional courts could not offer
solutions.

everybody must be involved, if not, this is not about religion,
because, bundles of christians have been saved by muslims, like
wise, bundles of muslims have been saved by christians during the
jos crisis -

wishin you guys happy weekend, we are off to our villages where
there is no network, bye.
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Re: JOS ON FIRE AGAIN
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2010, 02:51:52 PM »
Good sense. THIS IS NOT ABOUT RELIGION says Dan Borno. It is probably about land, economic advantage, ethnicity and lots of other factors but religion will be dragged into it by people with an axe to grind.

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Re: JOS ON FIRE AGAIN
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2010, 11:38:01 AM »
Jos on fire again.

Action begets reaction.
Berom were said to have killed fulanis in the last crisis.
Now Fulanis have attacked beroms.
Its a mess honestly.
I believe a state of emergency should be placed in Plateau.
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Re: JOS ON FIRE AGAIN
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2010, 12:31:59 PM »
Ato! Ai ga irinta nan. The circle of violence, once started, knows no end. Lokacin da aka karkashe fulani, aka kashe/sace masu dubban shanu, ba abinda akayi. Yanzu gashi sun dau fansa. Something drastic needs to be done about Plateau State, or it will plunge the whole country into chaos.

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Re: JOS ON FIRE AGAIN
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2010, 08:48:09 PM »
500 people killed in one day. When will this madness stop?

http://maxsiollun.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/several-hundred-killed-in-jos-%E2%80%93-again/

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Re: JOS ON FIRE AGAIN
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2010, 10:52:42 AM »
When will this end.
I'm sure the biroms are now planning on how to avenge.
The intelligence community has failed in this country.
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Re: JOS ON FIRE AGAIN
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2010, 03:11:53 PM »
The interesting and sad thing about the whole thing is the unabashed and shameless bias of the media. Now that apparently the beroms are at the receiving end, virtually all the papers ran the story on their front pages. And this time around, the reader is left in no doubt about the culprits. We were told in clear terms that the Fulanis or the hausa-fulanis or the muslims have attacked the christians beroms. When the muslims were massacred in January, women and children killed and stuffed in wells, very few of the papers put that as a cover story. And even then, they only made reference to 'rampaging youths' or it is 'a clash between hausa-settlers and berom natives'. Isn't it funny that the Plateau state govt, who always work very hard to hide teh true number of casualties, is now at pains to exargerate the numbers of casulties in this case? The CNN was there "live" to capture the burials of the victims. The UN and the US all expressed their "profound shock" at this appalling deed. But where were they when the Muslims were massacred, the fulanis killed and their cattle killed and burnt alive?

No excusing what happenend, as it is inhuman to kill a fellow being, not to mention children. But when the authorities show blatant bias towards a particular people, and refused to do anything when the same ethnic genocide was committed against them, then you are virtually inviting them to avenge themselves.

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Re: JOS ON FIRE AGAIN
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2010, 04:14:22 PM »
Well said.

The most biased of the newspapers is thisday.
They are the only ones that claimed the attack was carried out by 'hausa-fulani' tribesmen.
The Governor clearly made mention of daily trust newspaper for claiming that the attack was a reprisal
attack by the Fulani's to avenge their own massacre in Kuru jenta and Kuru karama,where bodies of entire families were killed,burnt and stuffed in wells.
It is a shame because had the governor read any other newspaper he wouldn't have said so.
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Re: JOS ON FIRE AGAIN
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2010, 04:16:49 PM »
GGNK ya ka rigani fada: well said, BKGZ. I wholly subscribed to your posting.

I had no intention to browse today, let alone visit any discussion forum for I kind of “divorce” discussion forums because of some reasons personal. But scanning here and there through newspapers, discussion fora/forums and the likes I came to sign in and compose this short and hopefully precise reply.

How everybody rants over that killing of Berons alleged to Fulanis is unceasingly surprising. Although inhuman but it’s obviously a reprisal. Can’t we remember what was done to non-combatant and defenceless people—women and children as well at Kuru in January? Nothing is yet to be done. Then why now? Why all the brouhaha; for instance E.U, U.S, France, etc all talk. Other national, state and local media and individuals are still talking.

Hmm. Let’s be fair and just and use our God-given commonsense. Lets “gauge” something here: are the lives of those killed (at Kuru and stuff in wells and pit latrines) not lives? Why was virtually everyone mum? And why is everyone talking? What is the difference between the two groups of people?

Life is no better than life.

Muslims are not cowards; and at the same time not terrorists. But the impulse that can drive someone to revenge a pain inflicted to him by another is something inert. Everyone knows that. Thus I can justifiably say the recent action was more called for than the first one. Both inhuman and condemnable and reprehensible.

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Re: JOS ON FIRE AGAIN
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2010, 01:16:15 PM »
Daily trust

The Plateau State government and the Police Command have disagreed over the number of people killed during the recent attack on Dogo Nahauwa, Zot, Rasat and Kutgot villages in the state.
State Police Commissioner Mr Ikechukwu Aduba said at a press conference yesterday that a total of 109 people died while the state Commissioner for Information Mr Gregory Yenlong maintained that over 500 people were killed by Fulanis in the affected villages.

Speaking with newsmen, Mr Yenlong said the police were only being economical with the truth of the matter, saying, “As Commissioner for Information, I led both national, local and international media to the affected villages, journalists saw the people massacred and counted them, even members of the communities whose people were killed are alive and they know that they lost over 500 people”.

Briefing newsmen yesterday in Jos, Police Commissioner Ikechukwu Aduba said the 500 and 371 credited to the state government through its Commissioner for Information was fabricated and should be disregarded.

 Aduba said, “We have only one mass grave designated for the burial and body count of those buried was done in the presence of both government and police officers including the state Commissioner for Information.  Those buried at the mass graves are 70, that includes 12 male children, 26 female children, 16 female adults, and 16 male adults”, he said.

He said people buried by relations privately in Barikin Ladi were 18, Dogo Nahauwa 12 and those that died in the course of treatment at the Jos University Teaching Hospital were nine which brings the total number of casualties to 109. This figure is authentic and undisputed, he said.

 Aduba said they arrested over 200 suspects in two categories, the first category includes 49 Fulanis who were arrested immediately after Dogo Na Hauwa. He said they owned up to carrying out the invasions and killings in the villages and that they were on revenge mission. He said investigations showed that some of the Fulanis were paid while some of them were volunteers but so far, they had not revealed the identities of their sponsors.

Mr Aduba said the police also arrested 151 people in Mangu and other surrounding villages for   unlawful possession of prohibited fire arms and dangerous weapons and unlawful assembly
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It is reported that during the last crises before the dogo na hauwa one, whenever the governor was told that 3 mosques have been burnt he would ask the commissioner to add 3 churches as well, so that the equation would balance.
Likewise when he is told that 10 muslims were killed he would ask them to add 10 christians to balance on paper.
Even his deputy governor was surprised when she saw in the report that the church which she just prayed was reported to have been burnt. She called the pastor and he told her that he has just been receiving calls of condolences while he was right inside the church.
One man told me that he went to the church that was said to have been burnt by the Muslim youths (as claimed by the former police commissioner) during the first riots and to his surprise, the church wasn't burnt.

This Jang is just a menace to the society.
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Re: JOS ON FIRE AGAIN
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2010, 02:51:22 PM »
He got a tongue-lashing by the military for stating that he called them before the attack but the military failed to deploy soldiers to the areas. I have never heard the nigerian army dishing out such strong statements. Clearly they were really angered by his lies. Both the Director of the Army Public Relations and the GOC 3 Armoured Division, Jos, spoke at lengths, condemning him. Gaskiya mutumin nan ayi sauri a dauki wani mataki a kan shi.

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Re: JOS ON FIRE AGAIN
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2010, 08:38:13 PM »
He got a tongue-lashing by the military for stating that he called them before the attack but the military failed to deploy soldiers to the areas. I have never heard the nigerian army dishing out such strong statements. Clearly they were really angered by his lies. Both the Director of the Army Public Relations and the GOC 3 Armoured Division, Jos, spoke at lengths, condemning him. Gaskiya mutumin nan ayi sauri a dauki wani mataki a kan shi.


You see Bakangizo, Jang is one kind fellow that I have ever seen in my life. He does not hide his ethnicity struggle. His own is not intrisically shown but explicitly expressed just to satisfy his personal diatribe ego. A method that is always dangerous and calamitous to unsmart leaders. He may be consumed by it if care is not taken. May God save Jos from the likes of Jonah Jang.
o try and fail is atleast to learn. That will save one the inestimable loss of what might have been (positive or negative).

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Re: JOS ON FIRE AGAIN
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2010, 08:31:34 PM »
Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim

‘Innocent Fulanis being arrested in Jos’
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Written by Misbahu Bashir   
Friday, 12 March 2010 06:20
Innocent Fulani herdsmen are being arrested over the killing of Berom people in some villages in Jos recently, a Fulani leader said yesterday.Alhaji Saleh Bayari said at a press conference in Abuja that local Fulani pastoralists are being arrested over the recent killing of Beroms in Jos and all those arrested are innocent.

He said those who carried out the killings have fled, adding that herdsmen who did not participate in the killings should be set free.

“Tens of herdsmen have been killed on the International Cattle Route that passes through Rasat and Dogo Nahawa villages by suspected Beroms. The herdsmen from Chad, Niger and Cameroon pass through this route.  When they will come to avenge the unprovoked killing of their women and children, other local herdsmen will not know. So it will be most unjust and wicked to arrest the local Fulani as those that killed the Berom’s at Dogon Nahauwa. 49 innocent Fulani herdsmen have been arrested by the police among 200 suspects. The police failed to mention the tribal identities of the 151 suspects mostly found with dangerous weapons,” he said.

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Re: JOS ON FIRE AGAIN
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2010, 02:19:18 PM »
Gaskiya Bamalli ba karamin ustaz bane. Kaga labarin sa harda bismillah aka fara ta!

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Re: JOS ON FIRE AGAIN
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2010, 10:28:08 AM »
Waziri,what has his saying bisimillah have to do with being an uztaz?
Are you being sarcastic?
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