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Title: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Hafsy_Lady on March 09, 2004, 05:40:05 PM
Assalamualaikum Jama'a
I don open new thread after so many years any pessin wey no reply......am gonna be VEXED ?;D

The masses: They are crying out, they want to be heard, they want jobs,freedom,good health,justice, money or any source of finance, they want to smiles and be happy they just want good living. They want to leave like those that have good living.

What can be done? What needs to be done? What ought to have been done? How can we go about doing it? What are you going to do? How can you help the masses to be heard out loud and clear?

Lets hear your opinion, speak on behalf of these poor souls maybe they can be heard out through YOU! Maybe You can  make a change...... :-[
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Hafsy_Lady on March 10, 2004, 11:50:51 AM
Wetin happun? Haba selfish brothers and sisters you dont want to contribute to help us the masses, no fair wo! Ok sorry if if you not selfish drop your line mana! ;D Infact am so  VEXEDDDDDDDDDDD  ::)
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: ummita on March 11, 2004, 12:50:48 PM
Awwwwwwwwww Honey beeheeve (Hafsy) kema kinseni if it means replyin 2 ur post 10000 times I will do it! I gt ur bck on dis one...........besides I will do anything for nigeria..........for us d masses (http://www.jazzynigerians.com/ib_html/non-cgi/emoticons/patriot.gif)

Goverment shud release money! The money shud b invested in providin job opportunities,education, healthcare.... (thou they r tryin, but dey need 2 try harder)

Government: please provide us with BENEFITS!

Rich people shud release some part of their money to donate in charities.....

Young people common get creative!!, organise activities raise funds and invest........

Healthcare: Nigerians shud stop importin fake drugs juss 4 cheap labour sake! They shud produce 100% paracetamol and not 90% talcum powder and 10% d actual drug itself(http://www.jazzynigerians.com/ib_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif)

The masses themselves are not making matters any easier, they shud stop crucify & blamin d govt, there is a alwaysa way 2 a betta livin bt some of "us" d masses are not willin 2 make a move!!!
For example the young generation: Go 2 skool gt educated and become what u wan2 bt its the opposite, they bunk off to go yawo. Obviously missin skool is missin out!!!

Let us obey law an order: Simple instruction do not dump litter, our masses will dump sewage infront of your house! Lets prevent crime, however thousands influence it!

If only I WILL MIND MY RELIGION AND OU MIND YOURS, THERE WONT BE ANY MORE BLOODSHEDS EVER!!!

Lets get rid of wicked, selfish, devilish ppl .....errrrrrrrrrrrr but how?.........(http://www.jazzynigerians.com/ib_html/non-cgi/emoticons/screwy.gif)
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Fateez on March 11, 2004, 04:36:29 PM
QuoteWetin happun? Haba selfish brothers and sisters you dont want to contribute to help us the masses, no fair wo! Ok sorry if if you not selfish drop your line mana! ;D Infact am so ?VEXEDDDDDDDDDDD ?::)


~*Salaam*~

Ooooooooooooh!!!! I'm really sorry Hafsy!!!

Ok, I think da most important move we shud make

is to think of a way to control our population.

It is da main cause of all those problems

It's really increasing fast. Imagine in da last

15 years, we have increased by 32.27%,

Wat do u xpect in da next 50years?

(We might even be competing wit China)

Family planning is very necessary 4 us...

Then we can think of battling wit corruption & fraud from

top to bottom,

When dat is dealt wit, then we WILL have enough

resources to take care of ourselves,

All we need is a plan that we will stick to

It might take sumtime to achieve our goalz, but it's worth a
try. Blaming the govt. and leaders will only increase da

anger in our hearts. I feel our rebellion also contributes 2

da downfall of our country. Lets just be optimistic and

cooperate.
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Gimbiya on March 11, 2004, 04:36:36 PM
 I believe that the only way people to get to where they want to go is by standing up to themselve. there's only so much that the government can contribute and the rest is up to us theCITIZEN. I don't believe that the government are doing such a great job by the way. but I think we should try to do something for our future. first of all to theGOVERNMENT: us(citizen) we need security, we want to make sure that we are safe in our own motherland. something got to give in, it looks like the police ain't doing sh*t, so what's the use of our military? to send them to other countries? so that they get the security that we(citizen) are starving of.

what do you guys think? I will drop down more later, a bit busy right now but interesting topic. I waited for this for a while
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Muhammad on March 11, 2004, 05:15:24 PM
salam
its so sad but the Nigerian masses have no voices and never did have any. There has never been a time in Nigeria's history where radical action was taken due to the 'cries' of the masses.
It is unfortunate but true. Another truth is, Nigeria, as it stands today is badly mismanaged. The legislature is a big joke. Otherwise, the random and wanton exploitation of the nation's resources by the executive will be curtailed. Let me give an example.
OBJ has almost 30 special adviser's and some 17 senior special assistance. All of these earn slightly less than waht a minister earns. What this says is, OBJ is wilfully and criminally spending our scarce resources on his cronies rather than on education and health.
Only hope people will have resides in the system. But  since the people in power are very greed and will not relinquish their positions, change in Nigeria will be hard indeed.
I hope this change!
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2004, 08:12:37 PM
I have just question for all of you.
HOW CAN WE IMPLEMENT ALL YOU HAVE SAID. HOW CAN WE PUT THEM INTO ACTION?
Na karanta alot of things on how we can have a better living standard. There are thousands of reports, articles, planning about how lifes of masses will be enriched. The wealthyhave spoken of donating so so so amount over microphone. The goverment have said 800 Naira for new school laboratories, people like you and I  have discussed here and there times without number about solving the problems of poor masses. A planning permission was requested and a land search was carried out 5yrs ago to start building flats for poor people har yau I await to see Truck suppliers of cements not even showels or diggers have been supplied to the venue. Nothing has been done, nothing has changed, the life of masses is still to be rescued. So we can sit and talk and talk and talk, duk bayanin da zamuyi nidai ina sauraro inga changes. Ba muyi ta hakilon magana ba ba changi
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: ummita on March 12, 2004, 11:56:10 PM
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WELL SAID!!! "Our people" we cant just keep blaming d government. It wont make matters easy like she said. But we need 2 act!!!!
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Kanolicious on March 14, 2004, 03:16:24 AM
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WELL SAID!!! "Our people" we cant just keep blaming d government. It wont make matters easy like she said. But we need 2 act!!!!

Why will you say so my sister, i am in this goverment
and i know how these thieves loot our money out of
the contry. all these people know is their big belly and
their children. they don't care about the masses at all
so you people who understand and know this have to
come out and tell the governent the truth. I wounder
what type of country nigeria is changing to ??? people
wount come out and speak out for their rights! the only
thing that nigerians respond & protest to is when govenment
close their shops in the market! or anything that has to
do with where they are doing their business.

This is wrong, at least when obasanjo incresed the fuel
price, nigerians should have keep on protesting day after
day till they get what they want. but yet everyone is so
week or feeling he is too rich to come out and protest!
take a look at other foreign countries, e.g venezuela
when they had this fuel price problem some months ago.
if you were following the fuel crisis & protest clearly, there
were ministers & directors of high govenment field coming
out to protest. and at last they got what they want.

Nigerians should think again & again, clearly!!!
And take action the next time something like
this happens.

mtsssss, bye.
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Kanolicious on March 17, 2004, 03:09:46 PM
QuoteI have just question for all of you.
HOW CAN WE IMPLEMENT ALL YOU HAVE SAID. HOW CAN WE PUT THEM INTO ACTION?

This is a question we all have to sit down and discuss!

Were are the government officials? Gogannaka we need some
answers on this matter here.
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Abut on March 17, 2004, 06:51:12 PM
We need a revolution,the present situation cannot go on,the masses have to revolt they must say enough is enough,people have to sacrifice their lives to end this mess,what we need is a leader,we already have a cause,Allah ya kawo mana leader,Amin.
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Kanolicious on March 18, 2004, 10:09:10 PM
QuoteWe need a revolution,the present situation cannot go on,the masses have to revolt they must say enough is enough,people have to sacrifice their lives to end this mess,what we need is a leader,we already have a cause,Allah ya kawo mana leader,Amin.

Yes abut, prayer is the answer.
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: somethingelse on March 18, 2004, 10:20:57 PM
hey all...i'm kinda new in here,i'll drop something better next tyme.peace out 8)
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Guduma on March 19, 2004, 11:19:44 AM
I can only say that we need to change the whole concept of our way of life. We must change the system of governance from the local, State and Federal Govt. We must equally change/reform our judicial system, the Police and the Army. For us to involve every one in nation building, we must deemphasize tribal, religious and political differences. We must accept one another the way we are and not how we want them to be. Lastly we must all have the fear of God, trust and tolerance for one another.
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Hafsy_Lady on March 24, 2004, 04:38:45 PM
QuoteAwwwwwwwwww Honey beeheeve (Hafsy) kema kinseni if it means replyin 2 ur post 10000 times I will do it! I gt ur bck on dis one...........
Allah sarki my Chipakoyouyousprika. I knew you will post comment for my topic...........ah Fateez, dont mention apology atleast you don reply yuwa hown ?;D I dont have to say anything. Party tonight at 3am to celebrate how many people posted their replies. mhmmm we have very patriotic people wo!!! for those that didnt reply 20 strokes! mhmm like if they dont reply I go die ::)

ehnnnnn but you all think we can take over the government??/ ?JUST LIKE THAT? ? it might be impo- po- po impossible :-/
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Dan-Borno on June 09, 2007, 02:19:53 PM
Hey Guys, trying to bring a new topic, instead
just reincarnated same from the archives, since
it serves the same purpose.

On a serious issue, the percentage of people
suffering in this our country compared to those
who are comfortable is far too high.

Just take a walk to your neighbours house in
the morning (for those living in Naija kampe)
sit down and see what are they preparing for
their breakfast.

Is there any Mai-Akara or Koko or any small
restaurant near you?  Go there in the morning
sit down or order a plate of food and see how
many people (Some pretend to be Almajirai
but wallahi they are not, mazauna gida ne
just trying to get what to eat) they will be counting
each loma you take to your mouth figuring if
based from their calculation the food will remain
or not.

Common water, as rightly stated by Bill Clinton
while on a tour to Africa, is a very big issue in
Nigeria.  Nigerian kids dont talk about candy
anymore wallahi.

Attend any walima and see how yara da manya suke
warwason abinci.  Wallahi yunwa ne tsantsa.

Why are pretending that Nigeria is WELL?
Or is it because you can eat 5 or 7 times daily?
How many of us can eat in the above style?

No matter how we advocate for the complete
irradication of Almajiranci - we wil not succeed.

What is the way out?
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: IBB on June 10, 2007, 11:07:13 AM
this is seriously a touching fact Dan-borno.

How about opening a Zakka office, where the wealthy ones can pay their Zakka so it can be shared to the masses
Title: Why not talked good things about Nigeria
Post by: tofutokwa on June 10, 2007, 12:40:10 PM
Salam

I heard enough criticism???

At least there is something good in Nigeria

Just one question and I would not post anymore


If the people of Nigeria are called Nigerian
what does we can call for the people of Niger
who is then the right one to call the Children of Niger River???  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Dan-Borno on June 18, 2007, 09:09:03 AM
IBB, most of the northern states have Zakka
office.  But the problem is "are people willing
to pay out their zakat according the the
prescription by Islam?" No.

I have worked with someone in 1995 who is
a very wealthy person, and I am in charge of
all his accounts and warehouse.

When the time for Zakat came and malamansa
sunce ya fito da zakka, wallahi kar kaga throughout
that week even his wives will know tha something
is wrong with him.

We will calculate and recalculate and recalculate
until Alhaji will give us his own formular on how to
calculate zakat according to his wish.  And if the
money is out, he will distribute the money in N5,000
and divide it among his staff.

So, you see, we have problem(s) at hand, when you
talk of Zakat.

Do you know anything about WAQF (Endowment)?
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Dave McEwan Hill on June 19, 2007, 12:59:52 AM
What would be the reaction if some great and honest Nigerian came to the people with this declaration?

The Constitution is suspended and regional governments are herby dissolved.
My dear countrymen, the aim of the Revolutionary Council is to establish a nation free from corruption and internal strife.
Our enemies are the political profiteers, the swindlers, the men in high and low places that seek bribes and demand ten per cent, those that seek to keep the country divided permanently so they can remain in office, the tribalists, the nepotists, those that make the country look big for nothing before international circles, those that have corrupted our society.
I assure all foreigners that their rights will continue to be respected.
We promise every law-abiding citizen the freedom from all forms of oppression, freedom from general inefficiency, and freedom to live and strive in every field of human endeavour.
We promise you that you will no more be ashamed to say that you are a Nigerian
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: HUSNAA on June 19, 2007, 04:33:15 PM
Quote from: Dave McEwan Hill on June 19, 2007, 12:59:52 AM
What would be the reaction if some great and honest Nigerian came to the people with this declaration?

The Constitution is suspended and regional governments are herby dissolved.
My dear countrymen, the aim of the Revolutionary Council is to establish a nation free from corruption and internal strife.
Our enemies are the political profiteers, the swindlers, the men in high and low places that seek bribes and demand ten per cent, those that seek to keep the country divided permanently so they can remain in office, the tribalists, the nepotists, those that make the country look big for nothing before international circles, those that have corrupted our society.
I assure all foreigners that their rights will continue to be respected.
We promise every law-abiding citizen the freedom from all forms of oppression, freedom from general inefficiency, and freedom to live and strive in every field of human endeavour.
We promise you that you will no more be ashamed to say that you are a Nigerian



You mean the military Dave? ;D
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: sheriff 05 on June 19, 2007, 05:30:08 PM
Dave, are you implying a military type leader, who would rule above the constitution? Or an Obasanjo type democratic leader to whom the constitution is irrelevant? To be honest, while that may be effective, it may also be a recipe for instant chaos.

If he suspends the constitution on what basis therefore will he/she rule?
What will govern his responses to situations?
What role with the judiciary play?
Will he be forced to respect the rule of law? If so, considering the fact that the constitution is suspended, what law are we talking about? 
To whom will he be accountable? Or does he then reign supreme and cannot be held accountable? In this day and age, can there really be people to whom unlimited power such as you suggest can be given and they judiciously expedite their duties, while not being accountable to anyone?  While I would also hope that the answer to that will be yes, unfortunately, the reality belies our hopes.

Yes we need selfless visionary leadership, but such a dedicated visionary must work within the framework of the law and a national constitution for two principal reasons.
Firstly, it would allow him to demonstrate the effectiveness, transparency and efficiency of the rule of law and the national constitution, to show that no one is above it, and that a Nigerian society can truly be built on it. This would instil order in the society and therefore show people that without recourse to more violent means, justice can always be served. Secondly, such a constitution can provide the people with a means to checkmate the negativity of a bad ruler and those to whom the law means nothing. This we so clearly saw over the last year (tazarce!!!!).

I agree that leadership is everything, but to be honest, I am more inclined to the notion that our problem lies from our inability to take personal responsibility for our plight. Imagine what would happen if a community come together under the auspices of a council of some sort and decide that they will be developing a strategic approach to (for example) agriculture such that they aim to produce enough food within the next farming season to sufficiently feed themselves and to export to other neighbouring communities. As visionaries within such a community, they could transform there own agro-economic base and turn that into a significant money earner for themselves on an individual basis. We wouldn't need Aso rock to achieve this in Damaturu (my state capital!!!). We wouldn't need anyone suspending any constitution either. All we would need is a general sense of personal responsibility to the plight of our community and a general dedication to make things right. In this case, such a commitment will even pay us. But unfortunately, we're a lot more comfortable blaming the government.

Please don't get me wrong, we have a right to blame the government as it is its responsibility to provide all we need. Yes, I know, but since they don't, what should we do? Even if we revolt, fight them and replace them, we'll still end up with leaders with very similar mentalities. It would simply be a rat race. Therefore what do we do? We quite simply take responsibility for our communities and do what we can to develop ourselves hoping that one day, we would be internally developed enough to be of immense benefit to the world. History has shown that self determination and individual dedication is the only way a society can effectively move forward.

Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Dave McEwan Hill on June 19, 2007, 06:24:39 PM
That was the preamble to the first coup in Nigeria which for all its faults was probably the only honest coup.  I put it on the site because it appears to me nothing has changed in half a century and the problems remain exactly the same.

I don't know the solution but it lies in the long run with the people of Nigeria. Somebody, somewhere, sometime has to say "no" when a bribe is offered, or when undue favour is given to a friend or brother, or when someone decides that all people of whatever tribe or religion deserve equal opportunity and equal treatment - and starts a movement to persuade everybody else of these truths.
It means not only do you stop giving bribes but you stop taking them. It means that government money is everybody's money and not to be collected and banked by politicians and government officers.

It is also tme to reflect whether the various leaders that most people in Nigeria are fanatically attached to are worthy of the loyalty they are shown by those who support them and vote for them. I see no evidence of this.
As an outsider I see (particularly in the Northern context)simple people being taken advantage of by their leaders who continue to accrue power and wealth which should instead be used for the common good.
But then again, like most Scots, I am a socialist and I don't believe that anybody is better than anybody else.
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: HUSNAA on June 19, 2007, 07:38:50 PM

I have said it and I will say it again. I dont mind military dictatorship, in so far as the dictators are wont to be fairminded honest, and dedicated to the development of Nigeria.  Democracy in its present form and dispensation is not for Nigerians. Nigerians only know how to behave when they have to be whipped into submission.
We need military dictators because their word becomes the law. Now that in itself is not a good thing. On the other hand if we have leaders in uniform who are selfless and will only enforce right and prevent wrong and wont indulge in the wrong themselves, then we will be on our way to becoming a great nation. Unfortunately for us,  there have been only one (as far as I am aware of, and that should make it two if we include Dave's own, although I beg to differ with him) military dictatorship which was bent on reforming the Nigerian civic society. That was the Buhari - Idiyagbon regime. If Nigeria had continued to be ruled under them, who knows what we might have achieved by now? At least a strong sense of discipline would have been inculcated into the mass of humanity.
The problem is that the Western world frowns on military dictators even if they are the right medicine for that moment for a nation, so it imposes all sorts of sanctions on nations where the military is in power, and that acts to counteract any positive things the military might plan to effect on their ppl, thus undermining their effort at genuine development, and this is a deliberate move on the part of the west as well. It would rather see a bad democracy in place rather than a good dictatorship, just so that it can protect its own interests. The losers are always the common ppl of course.
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Dave McEwan Hill on June 19, 2007, 10:45:02 PM
Exactly,Husnaa. Well said. The only problem however with Military Dictatorships is that if they decide to be wicked you can do nothing about it - as Nigerian experience has shown.
We will probably differ on the first coup though I genuinely believe there was a strong " One Nigeria" element to it and I think the easterners were initially the most enthusiastic "One Nigerians".  Political naivety presented a coup however that was dominated by "nyamiri" officers.

There were other failed coups and I had friends whom I respected hugely executed after one of them. I had no doubt that their motivations were completely honest.

The big problem facing Nigeria, unlike most other African states, is not lack of funds - the high price of oil should mean that Nigeria is awash with money which should be used to develop your country. Theft is still the real problem.
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: sheriff 05 on June 20, 2007, 12:26:50 AM
The recurrent idea for a strong military type leader is indeed a sound one. I agree that in its present form as is currently practiced, democracy is not ideal for the Nigerian environment. It allows room for all sort of "idiocy" to publicly litter our political landscape and leadership circles.

The idea of a selfless military leader is fantastic. We need such people to instil the rule of law and to bring discipline back into the Nigerian system. On that point I very much agree with you Husna. My worry with this is that it would only work if the leader is selfless and if he indeed upholds the ethos of fairness and justice. If not, then we're stuck with him without having any possible means of saving ourselves. Unfortunately, even from the cadre of military leaders we have had over time, we have had a lot more bad ones than good ones. Therefore, this system may not work either.

We probably need a hybrid. Something that allows for such leadership, while also instilling accountability.

I also agree that the powers that be, may not be predisposed to the idea of an independent and courageous leader may rule a country like Nigeria, a country with such strategic importance to the global energy market. History is awash with examples of such interferences, the most common one being Omar Torijos of Panama. His valour could not be tolerated by the powers that be. His style of people oriented leadership and the right of self determination that he gave to his people along with his firm stance for the freedom of panama and its highly strategic canal, made him a firm US enemy no.1. He was assassinated and replaced by a subservient ruler who gladly left the canal in US control.


Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Dan-Borno on June 21, 2007, 01:11:06 PM
Well done Dave, Husnaa and Dattijo Sheriff, you have spoken well.
Both military and civilian government did not change anything in
this country.

Dave, you intelligently tried to figure out what the real problem
is with Nigeria, where you faithfully come to the conclusion that
theft is still the problem of Nigeria.

Well said, and I agree with you.  My question now is, what is the
cause of all these thefts? is it connected to the diverse nature
of tribes, culture or religion of Nigeria? 

There is one topic which we run away from it always:
Is the agitation for "ARABA" not going to work?

All the different regions in NIgeria are accusing one another
saying "monkey dey work, baboon dey chop".

What is the real voice of the masses?
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: sheriff 05 on June 22, 2007, 05:01:01 PM
"Araba" is quite an interesting issue which has come up for quite a while and ironically unlike other issues, its agitators cut across the entire strata of the Nigerian society. One major advocate for such being Mallam Waziri, I hope he can "tofa" his "albarkaci" into this discusssion.

On the streets of Nigeria, all masses from all around the country face the same problem. Poverty all across the country, inefficiency, corruption, no electricity, insecurity, all these are themes that exist in all parts regardless of the cultural leanings of the people. The only difference is the magnitude of exposure and the precedence of one problem over another, depending on location. Therefore, even if Nigeria splits, will this problem go away? To be honest, I think not. It would continue to follow us into the many facets we have split into.

This is because, in my opinion, our problem is a collection of personal problems that have amassed to define the direction of our nation. Yes, I agree that without a doubt the system gave birth to this personal problem, but so long as there is no willingness on our part to tackle these inherent problems collectively and individually and to take our own destiny in our hands, then things cannot work, regardless of how many pieces we split into.

I was with a colleague of mine a few days ago, and he narrated to me the circumstances surrounding the gubernatorial election in BAUCHI state, where Mu'azu was said to have used all the power available to him to ensure that Yuguda does not win. But Alhamdulillah, the people of Bauchi demonstrated that even within a completely corrupt and unfair political system as ours, the people should they decide to, can make things right. Yuguda was neither in control of the Security outfits, nor the electoral body nor any instrument of power, all he had was (Allah on his side) the good will of the people and the people merely defended what they felt was right. A similar incident was said to have been recorded in 2003, in Kano when Mallam was elected and Kwankaso, booted.

That is the true voice of the people which is beginning to cry out. The masses want a system that works, a system where all will be rewarded and that fulfils individual aspirations. A system where electricity, water, security, education and all, will be permanent features. In my opinion, the people can surely get all that, should we decide that we will collectively work together to give it to ourselves, through the choices we make, the leaders we choose and through our collective efforts. All we need to do as a people is be clear about our priorities and to take responsibility for our collective destiny. If it could work in the political scene, where bribery, theft, corruption are as common as oxygen, then why not in other areas which we require to rebuild our communities? Frankly, I am immensely hopeful that despite the failures of our fathers, this generation will finally be waking up to its responsibilities.

Splitting Nigeria up will therefore not solve the issue. True federalism, where the country is made up of economically independent city states with the centre being merely responsible for critical issues of National security; foreign policy etc. may be a better option. I must confess I know little about political systems, but I do know that judging by our cultural diversity, a single integrated political system will not be appropriate. The option of economically independent city states all converging under the auspices of a national body may be most appropriate. What we operate at the moment is a similar system, with too much power and economic clout hinging on the centre. But I'm sure that y'all are more suited to discuss this than me...
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Dave McEwan Hill on June 22, 2007, 10:05:11 PM
A very thoughhtful piece from sheriff 05 with a lot of good sense. In particular he points out the propensity of Nigerians to notice exagerate or even invent the faults of Nigerians of other tribes while turning a completely blind eye to exactly the same fraudulent or dishonest behaviour by their own people in power.
This is how the rogues manage to stay in power. When a rogue leader is exposed tribalism protects him.
The North of Nigeria with its historical background of a feudal system of governance is at particular risk from this weakness due to the tradition of deference to its leaders.
This is holding the North back.
I helped Mallam Aminu Kano by designing some election material for him. His progressive views in a whole range of issues were lost to the Nortth when he died

The political system sheriff 05 suggests resembles in some way the political operation of the USA or Germany and other Federal states. Federalism varies greatly from nation to nation but I suspect internal forces in Nigeria will lead eventually to more and more power being demanded by the regions and many feel that three or four independent states will be the eventual destination (much like the Scandanavian model which is several independent countries co-operating in an organisation callled the Nordic council). What is impoprtant is that Nigeria's eventual composition is determined democratically by negotiation and the will of the peoples and not by conflict. Any part of Nigeria which democratically wants to secede has the absolute right to do so.
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Dan-Borno on June 25, 2007, 08:12:41 PM
Alhamdu Lillahi, Malam Sheriff for a very good reply to my
question on "Araba".  You have raised so many issues, some
you have answered already, while others, you have left
for other forumites to elaborate and discuss upon.

Definitely, what the people of Bauchi State did is a welcome
development and also an eye-opener (sunnah) to other
masses to follow in all spheres of life (not only politics).

Malam Sheriff, what i came to understand with the problem
of our people (north) is lack of awareness and blind followership
just as rightly stated by Mr. Dave.  "Sarki ya ji maganan talaka"
"Tashi ka ba mu waje, Sarki yana barci" "Wane dan talaka ya ja
da Sarki" the likes of these and others pave way to a complete
blind followership and muteness exhibited by talakawas in the
northern part of Nigeria.

This with time transfered to our present political system.
The masses doesnt have any voice to be heard, only the
voice of the rich are being heard at the corridors of power.

It now rest on the masses of all regions of this country to
understand what the problem is, instead of taking arms on selves
and agitating for a split up of his great country.  Definitely, as
you said Sheriff, this is not the problem with us.
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Nuruddeen on June 25, 2007, 08:40:06 PM
Quote from: Hafsy_Lady on March 09, 2004, 05:40:05 PM
Assalamualaikum Jama'a
I don open new thread after so many years any pessin wey no reply......am gonna be VEXED ?;D

The masses: They are crying out, they want to be heard, they want jobs,freedom,good health,justice, money or any source of finance, they want to smiles and be happy they just want good living. They want to leave like those that have good living.

What can be done? What needs to be done? What ought to have been done? How can we go about doing it? What are you going to do? How can you help the masses to be heard out loud and clear?

Lets hear your opinion, speak on behalf of these poor souls maybe they can be heard out through YOU! Maybe You can  make a change...... :-[



I think you should start by sacrificing yourself for the masses. We always make empty assertions without proffering a way forward.
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Dan-Borno on July 05, 2007, 03:19:21 PM
Voice of the Masses

This is a fragment interview which i conducted
personally with Malam Umaru, (alias kanka da motsi)
a member of the Kayan Danye Petty Traders Union,
Monday Market Maiduguri.

pls read on.

Dan-Borno: 
Malam, can you please tell me your name:

Answer:
My name is Malam Umaru, but I am popularly
known as Kanka da motsi.

Dan-Borno
When did you start this petty business?

Answer:
Immediately Buhari was overthrowned by Babangida.

Dan-Borno
Before now, what were u doing?

Answer:
Taxi Driving

Dan-Borno
How is this petty trading of kayan danye going?

Answer:
Its fine, and our dealers are surely assisting us?

Dan Borno
How?

Answer:
Because for example, i use to come out from my
house as early as 5am and koboless.  Immediately
i come, I will register with any of the dealers, then
I will pick a bag or two loads of irish potatoe,
depending on the season we are; sometimes, its
groundnut, carrot, gwaza, orange just name it.
At the end of the market, around 5pm, i will balance
the dealer of what i sold and the profit goes to
my pocket.

Dan-Borno
How much profit do you make for each bag

Answer
Its all depend on the market, but maximum of
N1,000.00 and usually, between 400 and 500
naira on daily basis.

Dan-Borno
Do you have a family

Answer:
(lauging) I have a wife and 7 children.

Dan-Borno
How much shopping (Chefane) do you make
daily to your house

Answer:
It all depends, what ever i get for that day
goes straight to chefane.

Dan-Borno
For how long will you be using a bag of rice in
your house.

Answer:
(Laughs) a bag of rice! serious
I have never bought a bag of rice
I only buy in scale (mudu).  A bag of
rice is for the big men who go to school
or business tycoons here in the market.

Dan-Borno
You mean, you have never bought a bag
of rice?

Answer:
Kai, i heard a bag of rice is almost 5,000.00
how do you expect me to get that kind of
money?

Dan-Borno
Your kids, do they go to school?

Answer:
some of them, i have sent them to school
(Almajiranci) while the two elderly are helping
me here in the market.

Dan-Borno
Do you have any plans of sending them to
the school?

Answer:
for what? they are already into Islamic education,
isnt it the same knowledge?

Dan-Borno
I understand that you have a union here,
what is the work of this union.

Answer:
We are protecting our right, and we dont allow
anybody to just come into the market and start
this type of work.  So, except if you were being
introduced by someone who is reliable, you will
not be registered as a member.

Dan-Borno
Since you always collect credit from your dealers,
how much do you require to start up your own
business independent, without collecting credit
from the dealers.

Answer:
Wallahi, if i could get N10,000.00, its fine with
me, i will start in a big way, like collecting
7 to 8 bags and distributing it to my boys
to also start.

Dan-Borno
Have the government ever came to your aid.

Answer:
What is Government? we dont know who is this
government, its only when I see the police in their
uniform that i know we have government somewhere
but i never feel its presence.

Dan-Borno
Where do you live

Answer
Mairi Kuwait

Dan-Borno
How much do you spend on transportation.

Answer:
How much? I trek everyday to and from

Dan-Borno
What is your message to the Government and
the rich people among us

Answer:
Government should try and reach out to us in the
area of providing us with basic amenities, like hospitals
were we will have free access to medical facility,
Water and security.  And the rich people among us
should have the fear of Allah and give us a helping
hand in our business. 

Dan-Borno
Thank you for sharing your time with me.

KONLINERS
Ponder please, N10,000.00 can change the life
of an entire family.  Start with your family
relatives and then your neighbours, they are
everywhere around us, lets give them a helping
hand, it will make a difference.




Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: sheriff 05 on July 07, 2007, 11:02:41 AM
Ma sha Allahu Dan Borno, Allah ya ba da lada. Speaking for myself, Insha Allahu I'll do my best
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Rais on July 10, 2007, 05:13:03 PM
 :o jazakallahu khairan onbehalf of d masses
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Dan-Borno on September 12, 2007, 09:33:58 AM
_____phone ringing______
~~~~Skye bank Lyrics~~~~~
I wish .................................

Hello Salamu Alaikum

Woman voice:  Hello, ina kwana

Lafiya, wake magana

Woman voice:  Maijidda ce daga Yola, Mu'azu ne?

Mu'azu:           Mu'azu ne

Maijidda:         Ina kwana

Mu'azu:           Lafiya, yaya yaran da maigidan

Maijidda:         crying crying

Mu'azu:           Lafiya kuwa, me ya faru?

Maijidda:         Crying Crying

Mu'azu:           don Allah kiyi magana, what is it?

Maijidda:         ..in sob.. Don Allah kayi hakuri na dame ka

Mu'azu:           Haba dai, fadi in ji, in fatan dai lafiya?

Maijidda:         (in a slow sobbin voice)
                     Wallahi tallahi Mu'azu babu abinci a gidannan,
                     jiya ma sai da kyar muka auna kwanon shinkafa
                     guda daya, shi mukaci da yamma, sa'annan kuma
                     ragowar mukayi sahur da shi, in da hali don Allah
                     ka taimakemu da kayan abinci, har yanzu ba a basu
                     (refering to her husband) albashinsu ba. (weeping).

Mu'azu:           Haba sister, ai da sai ki gaya min, Insha Allahu zan
                     taso Usman yanzunnan ya kawo muku wani abu na
                     azumi.  Ki kwantar da hankalinki, Allah zai kawo sauki
                     kuma in babu ki rika magana, insha Allahu za a taimaka.

Maijidda:         Crying Crying, mun gode, Allah ya saka da alheri.

Mu'azu:           Ki gaida megidan da sauran yaran, sai anjima

Maijidda:         ...sobbin.. Thank you brother, sai anjima.

Forumites, do you know how many families are suffering from above  same
problem?  Did you check on all your family relatives whether they have
something to start with in this month?  This is real VOM.

You can change a life today today.
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: sdanyaro on September 12, 2007, 11:33:35 AM
Quote from: Dan-Borno on July 05, 2007, 03:19:21 PM
KONLINERS
Ponder please, N10,000.00 can change the life
of an entire family.  Start with your family
relatives and then your neighbours, they are
everywhere around us, lets give them a helping
hand, it will make a difference.
Thanks  for this interesting interview Dan-Borno... It would have been even more telling if you have inquired about what kind of income does the wife brings into the house hold... such as some ciniki-ciniki from within or outside the house?

I am very sorry to say that I can almost think that anya ba sai kara mataba kuwa?
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: ummita on September 12, 2007, 01:41:33 PM
Quote from: sdanyaro on September 12, 2007, 11:33:35 AMThanks  for this interesting interview Dan-Borno... It would have been even more telling if you have inquired about what kind of income does the wife brings into the house hold... such as some ciniki-ciniki from within or outside the house?
It depends.....if she is not strapped.......ba sei megida nata ya barta tayi aiki ba. Wat if he objects her wrkin 4 profitable gains?

Quote from: sdanyaro on September 12, 2007, 11:33:35 AMI am very sorry to say that I can almost think that anya ba sai kara mataba kuwa?
Ashe kunsan halayen.....na yanuwan naku..... ;D
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: waduz on September 21, 2007, 05:05:32 PM
Let us just do our best to help the needy. We should not send the needy away if we can afford to impact on their lives! For me life is about pity and regards for one another..........to have courage, because even the blind struggles to "see"! ;D
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Dan-Borno on September 21, 2007, 10:52:32 PM
You are right Waduz, if only we can check on
the weakest link, things would not have been
like it is now.  We just have to help the poor,
ai ba wayon mai kudi bane yasa Allah ya bashi,
he is just a custodian.
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: waduz on September 28, 2007, 10:54:35 AM
Like now, when someone breaks his fast with ordinary water, another one is breaking it with fried chicken, chips, salad and juice! He doesn't care even if his neighbor has nothing to break the fast with! When he is confronted for any little assistance he flares up angrily. Perhaps it could be the reason that the haves are busy rushing to Saudi for Umrah to avoid pesterings of the needy!
Where are the ('yan alal hakika) is it not better to stay here and distribute grains and money to the needy now, instead of going on Umrah? Please answer this question. ::)
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: hafiz amin umar on October 03, 2007, 05:12:38 PM
TO talaka dai yashiga uku,gama yanzu ko dako ma zaiyi sai yashiga union,an karbi wani abu daga gurinsa,babu wani abu da mutum zai iya yi yanzu na sana'a sai an toshe hanyar,shiyasa yanzu zakaga mutum da karfinsa amma yana bara in ka tambayeshi zai gaya ma dakoma sai da union yanzu! ALLAH YA SAUWAKE.
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Dan-Borno on October 25, 2007, 06:23:32 PM
Hey guys, how much is a bag of Dangote Rice?  8)
Title: Re: VOICE OF THE MASSES
Post by: Bajoga on October 26, 2007, 03:23:21 PM
Ai sai dai kawai muce Allah ya kyauta

Talaka a wannan zamani sai dai Allah