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Title: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Borg on April 03, 2003, 08:40:46 PM
Kun ji sabon labari that Yemen and Nigeria are the next targets of the 'war on terrorism'?
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: al_hamza on April 03, 2003, 08:46:07 PM
i heard on hard talk
that an american government officer said Pakistan,Sudan and Iran are the possible threats to the US, i didnt hear of Nigeria,
though it will hurt me equally if any muslim nation is attacked.
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Borg on April 03, 2003, 09:28:36 PM
Exerpts from a newspaper article:
Khaleej Times Tue, 1st April 2003.

PARIS - Guillaume Dasquie, editor of intelligence Online and a specialist on Al Qaeda, claims that the 2 principal figures of the US Defense Dept., Rumsfeld and his under secy Wolfowitz, have designated Yemen and Nigeria as the next targets of the American 'war on terrorism'.

In the current affairs magazine, Minotaure, Guillaume Dasquie reveals the reasons behind the choice of these 2 countries. US strategists fear that if nothing is done soon, local hotbeds of Al Qaeda activists could take over control of the immense oil reserves of these 2 oil producers, he says.

He also reveals that according to his American sources, the US has decided to redefine the concept of state sovreignty, "at least as its been conceived in the concert of nations for several centuries".

He cites a little-know speech given on Jan 14th, at Georgetown Uni in Washington by Richard Haas, the policy planning director at the US dept of state, in which the theoretician puts forth the idea of 'faltering sovereignty', according to which a country will be seen 'in default' with regards to it 'international responsibilities' if it were to engage in 3 activities:

- The support of terrorist movements
- The possession and maintenance of WMD's and
- Repeated violations of the human rights of its citizens

"If" writes Dasquie, "a country is found guilty of engaging in the 3 activities defined by Richard Haas, then the previledges that flow out of their national sovereignty would be 'cancelled' and would render legitimate the recourse to military intervention by an outside power, most likely the US".

The advantage of such an idea, says Dasquie, "is that the military intervention that would be brought about would not technically be considered as war, for the simple reason that given the prior decision to 'cancel' the sovereignty of the state in question, there would no longer be anybody to which to address a declaration of war, or with whom to sign an armistice. In terms of the legal interpretation of the US, the operation in question would simply constitute a manoeuver intended to resolve security to an entity that would no longer be a state of law. No more no less"
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Blaqueen on April 03, 2003, 09:40:17 PM
they DARE not!

Africans are not as mumu as Arabs!... African STICK together!.. no matter what!..

sha, this will be very interesting lol
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Borg on April 03, 2003, 09:42:15 PM
If thats gonna be the next US international policy, then zaman lafiya a wanna duniyar as we know it is over :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: al_hamza on April 03, 2003, 10:08:31 PM
dymequeen,
with due respect do you think we africans are united?
we could do nothing to stop aparthied regime in S-A.
Libyans suffer sanctions of the US.
Well grow up
and stop living in the dreamworld
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Blaqueen on April 03, 2003, 10:22:56 PM
aw c'mon.. we backed qadaffi when tha arabs deserted him! qadaffi used to be racist.. but now he proudly claims to be "african".. because were the only ones who supported him (we as in african govts and etc etc)

look how europe and US were pressuring africans to isolate mugabe... but the african leaders said.. NO!

even during the french/african summit.. zimbabwe was going to be excluded. african leaders said..."if mugabe aint goin'.. we aint".. and mugabe was invited after all..

u have to give africans props when it comes to being united! apartheid is a whole different thing.. and the african leaders did what they could to help out during that era...
dont be too picky... i no wan' argue!

point is... Africans are a lot more united than arabs! if they plan to attack an african country.. its trouble!
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: al_hamza on April 03, 2003, 10:43:50 PM
you know,
when i was in JSS 2
we had this social-studies teacher called Mallam Usman.
The great fulani is one of those that shaped my views on international Politics.
wehn we came to a topic called OAU
(organisation of african unity)
he called it bluntly a "toothless bulldog"
"it can shout but it cant bite."
yes we supported mugabe.

1)but were we supposed to?
thats the first question.

2)Libya has faced santions for God knows how many years.
have we boycotted european and american products in response?
thats question number two.

3) With an ever growing growing population of illiterates, dont you think our beloved continent wouldnt embrace the US?
go out and as your nieghbour if he/she wants to be in the US and the answer will be YES!
dont you think resistance will be undermined by the masses?
thats Question number three.

stop mafarki'ing
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Borg on April 03, 2003, 10:53:00 PM
Hmmmm... interesting, AH, you think if Naij were to be invaded like Iraq is now, we will welcome the invaders with cheers and open arms as was thot would be the case in Iraq? Just a question.
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Rose on April 03, 2003, 11:37:18 PM
Hey Nigeria Tafi karfin dan daji(Bush) da House boy dishi na Number10, Jakona dobobi marasa tunani.
Allah yayi mana tsari da sharrinsu.
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Ibro2g on April 04, 2003, 12:43:12 AM
 Pray!, lets pray, and now it is all that is left that we can do. The term peace...world peace is over...extinct. The world has come to an end...or at least, we are seeing the biggining of the dark ages....some1 please pray for us.
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Muhammad on April 04, 2003, 01:28:25 AM
Salam
How funny! USA attacking nigeria. its possible I suppose, but very, very unlikely. In the event of such a thing happening, be rest assured that the NA will be routed in  less than 100 hrs and then we, the civilians, will refugeea(te) to Niger republic and perhaps Tchad rep.
Anyway, on a more serious note, talking of african unity being stronger than Arab Unity is untrue but likely. The Arabs are a hopeless lot, apologies to arab sympathisers. They have missed one key factor that set them on top of the World once- Islam. Pre Islamic Arabia is, just like today, a closed, lazy and unproductive society. Islamic vigour coupled with the organizational awareness Salat inculcates in the society gave the Arabs the desired tools to make their marks on the world stage. Perhaps they can achieve such a feat?................. Only through islamization of culture.
Africans.............................what about africans. I must say my knowledge of African milestones is stunted. What i can say is that we once had the Islamic ruler of Mali (songhay empire i think) Mansa Musa, who was devout, and had a rich kingdom with lots of scholarship and learning  courts (sankore and timbuktu).
Are africans united? NO, not ever and perhaps not in the forseeable future. Dont ask me why. just read the bio data of our leaders and see for how long they have ruled, or intend to rule?  Also run down to the nearest British council library and request a copy of an African magazine of yester-years. If on the 23 or March of every year you do not read about a conflict some where in africa, then as Hadejia people would say " a baka buhun tusa" or " you just won a sack full of gas".
the intermetent conflict in africa by africans demonstrates in the clearest of manifestations the dis unity amongst statelets amongst states let alone states in an international setting.
I sum by saying this ........................... Nothing guess?
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Fulanizzle on April 04, 2003, 03:11:55 AM
salmau alaikum
those goonz wanted to get at us a looong time ago...and especially sharia is "active" they wanna make the situation even worse for us...

Wallah me and a sudanses friend were talking..she said teh US wont let Sudan sleep...i had a bet with her, that they will start with nija too...and me is right!

and helloooo it aint gonna be war on Nigeria...no its gonna be War on NORTHERN MUSLIM NIGERIANZ...dont say i aint said it...

a year a go back..or so,, they started putting their troops in a Nortern state,,,was it Sokoto,,kastina...Wallah cant rememebr now, they were trying to build a military base... and half or even more than half of the nijerians didnt know ish about it... when tehy were asked "WHY in the extreme north" they replied because we are the trouble makers and they wanted to get things under control...for the next chaos...

anywayzzz, they were giving little kids tiny explosives to paly with...when teh kids got home, and the toy dropped, BOOM! about 5 cases ya faru... anyways they are trying their best to keep these secret, a low low...on a low key...
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Fulanizzle on April 04, 2003, 03:18:22 AM
really i hate talking bout ?these thingz....seriously tahts why i try to avoid these politicalish convoz...but THIS ahh this pushed my RED button!

and look at another conspiracyyy why did "THEY" hold the Miss universe thinggy during Ramadan...of all months..and whyyyyy DID THEY CHOOSE NIJERIA?????!!! WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT IN A MILLION YEARS THEY'D CUM TO NIJA..?they are juss trying to provoke Yan arewa...then after we act,,,they call us brutal  and uncivilized..
yeah right, uncivilized my..*BEEP*...actually it was my neck  ;D
aiight imma ?:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X now !

They wont even lay a hand on our hair!!! they dare not!!! plus man,,,,,this is there downfall...they re walking into this trap they cant see for now....

were is china now?
what happend to great Russia?
ooh lets not forget about the egyption kingdom?
great roman EMpire.....ZIT!

May Allah subhana wa Taala be wit us
Ameen
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: al_hamza on April 04, 2003, 11:29:55 AM
Well.
fulanicious explained it all.
you see sadly most of our african nations have almost the same geopolitical system like ours.
that is christians by the ocean side and muslims towards the north.
in case of an invasion,
just give yourself a moment to face the harsh reality.
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: lionger on April 05, 2003, 02:44:50 AM
africa united, ke? if so then half of our problems would be solved by now!

i'm not so sure the unflinching support of the african 'leaders' for mugabe is a sign of 'african unity'; to me it demonstrates a good deal of what is wrong with our continent. This 'kampe-ism' (derived form Obasanjo's famous 'i dey kampe' phrase) attitude, or precedence of sit-tight rulers whose only successes lie in their belly or their pockets is not at all in anybody's interests. what is mugabe still doing in power after so many years of nothing? why after 22 years has did he suddenly remember land redistribution? Yes the west and esp. Britain have no moral right to be making so much noise about mugabe. But leaders have to be responsible ?to their their country. If they are no longer relevant, then they should not be there. So i'm really not sure what we stand to gain from supporting a man like mugabe.

fulanicious i think the beauty contest came to nigeria because miss agbani darego, a nigerian from port harcourt, won the previous contest. let's not get carried away..many ppl don't realise that this 'miss world' thing is seen as a big vanity joke by many 'westerners'.
and if you were refering to the miss world riots and the fatwa pronouncing as 'action'...well i don't want to start arguing about that, but i felt the pageant, was an occasion for nigeria to properly showcase itself to the world and dispel all negative rumors. but we sure did a great job of that, didn't we? no wonder mr. bin laden mentioned nigeria as one of the islamic nations that need liberation. now america has also put us on their 'liberation' list (if the report is true). lol everyone wants to liberate us. maybe i shouldn't blame them, the country definitely needs liberation ?from the bunch that are in power today. if the americans ever come to liberate nigeria, i would simply go back to my hometown and pray. like a famous african-american comedian said, 'if they wanna fight, let'em fight, cuz i ain't fighting!'
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Fulanizzle on April 05, 2003, 02:01:53 PM
OOH this is just too good...... ?really i had nooo intention to reply any post at the moment..really i feel too languid to type my essay.... Lionger... either ur unaware or just ignoring the fact that the "EVIL CATS" time, and plan out their games XTREMELY well, so that it will seem like everything is a coincidence.....listen, do the math...when was Sharia active in nija....when was the beuty conetst won by...whats her name..the nigerian(sorry Wallah dont know her name, dont think like i degraded her), and then ofcourse came the last beauty thing last year..... hey these evil cats work step by step...very cunning, and very convincing....CONSPIRACY...

listen... there are soooooo many examples...when the want something they dont go to it DIRECTLY...so that they wont be seen as the bad guyz....they go around the backway...and follow many procedures to get what they want, without people realizing....
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Fulanizzle on April 05, 2003, 02:03:44 PM
YOU THINK THEY ARE LIKE U, AFRICAN MAN, WITH AFRICAN TIME, WHO IS UNORGANIZED...THESE PEOPLE ARE OOOLD IN THE GAME....THEY PLAN WELL AHEAD OF TIME!

Handy work of the cats....
looooooooooook at Southa africa
looook at sierra leonne
LOOOOK ?at the north and south problem in Sudan
loooooook ?at Iraq now
loook at the somalian/eritrean/ethiopia problem
loooook at the north and south korea problem
loook at the ....MAN DO U WANT ME TO TAKE UP TO 100 PAGES?? ??
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Fulanizzle on April 05, 2003, 02:06:35 PM
EEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYY  PLS DONT MAKE ME TALK.....
I DON WANA OPEN MY MOUTH NO MORE :-X

IT AINT A SAFE WORLD!
IT AINT A FAIR WORLD!

SO I SPEAK NO MORE ABOUT NOTHING...!!!!!
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Muhammad on April 05, 2003, 07:13:53 PM
Lionger!
In a sense my response to African unity does not differ much from your's except the issue of Mugabe. I am sure you  know about the struggle of Robert Mugabe Zimbabwe (Rhodesia then) . Zimbabwe was and continued being 'an unequal amongst equal' place even after independence.
Lets pose a simple example. What would use say if the 100,000 Buzuye from NIger rep controlled the Oil production & 90% of arable land of the country? mind you not tthough hard work but because " a  buzu president" made it ridiculously easy to obtain land at the behest of others. If you will call for a revolution then you must support the unanimous vote of confidence given to Mugabe by the Afr leaders.
Another good thing about Zim is that its currently the only Sub saharan country with 77% literacy rate. A very educated public indeed!
So lionger, if you want to point out African leaders ineptitude, pls do not use Zim as an example. May be Congo or Malawi.
Ciao.
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: lionger on April 05, 2003, 08:30:01 PM
hi amin,

Two wrongs do not make a right.

yes i aknowledge mugabe's sacrifices for his country; infact, i read a whole book on the subject a year ago. however, does that mean he owns the country? that he should hold the citizens of zimbabwe to ransom forever? is that a sign of good governance? This man has ruined the economy for political gain. the taste of power that he had fought for has transformed his patriotism into greed. Look at Nelson Mandela. 27 years in jail, released in 1990; is he president today? No, he reliquished power to younger thobo mbeki. now there's a responsible leader.

we should not allow the race card to cloud our judgement. Are those white farmers Zimbabweans? The white farmers who are 5% of the country and control 80% of the economy are not much different from the 2% of nigerians controlling nigeria's wealth. So why don't we start from nigeria?
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Blaqueen on April 05, 2003, 08:48:53 PM
kai oh!!! people.. i still adore AFRICAN LEADERS!!!!!... i like the way they stick together.. at least, wut i have noticed in the past few years!...
we may not be as powerful as the other bully nations, we may not have big guns, but we got attitude, and i guess i admire that. juss because they look down on us, doesnt mean we're not worth it!

about mugabe... juss fashy... dont mind the west, they fit raise their voice when its about their "kind".. u wont see them shouting for the native americans, palestinians, or aboriginies... if they deal with their mess.. they can come back and holla!
they can go siddown...
even if they go to "deal witih evil".. they do it when it only benefits them. shegu..

but wait.. how will they deal with the terrorism in naija?... its not like they'll invade.. they'll juss most likely set up bases... and monitor...
kai, like colonial times ko?
dont they already have bases in sokoto and jos?
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Blaqueen on April 05, 2003, 08:56:20 PM
Quote2% of nigerians controlling nigeria's wealth.

i always wanted to ask... how come, we produce tons of oil.. export them and all...
yet, we have oil shortage?

d@mn are people that GREEDY!

hehe.. wait till u see how many percent of the world's population control global wealth.. :-X
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Blaqueen on April 05, 2003, 08:58:01 PM
Quote
Handy work of the cats....
looooooooooook at Southa africa
looook at sierra leonne
LOOOOK ?at the north and south problem in Sudan
loooooook ?at Iraq now
loook at the somalian/eritrean/ethiopia problem
loooook at the north and south korea problem
loook at the ....MAN DO U WANT ME TO TAKE UP TO 100 PAGES?? ??

na oyinbo...lol
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: al_hamza on April 05, 2003, 09:43:18 PM
Let the time come,
Allah will surely show us all,
as far as mugabe is concerned, for the first time i agree with lionger,  :)
Amin surely u shud understand those lands were then occupied by the zulu's and the british over-took them (thats bad agreed) but then, how can you expect people to become hyper-productive when they know nothing about farming?
those whites claim to be african! they represent zimbabwe in the national game criket!
"olunga" one of thier criketers wore a black band showing dis-aproval of mugabe's stance, and he's an african bro :). as far as the land Re-Distribution is concerned, mugabe did the right thing but too fast and for a selfish reason,
this can cost his nation dearly.
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: al_hamza on April 05, 2003, 10:32:56 PM
No wonder Islam says women should stay out of politics :)

miss dyme, do you sincerely know how to contribute concretely to quite serious matters?

or do you enjoy shouting Peace Peace when our enemies shout Kill Kill?

for me, my religion is my state,
Islam first and Islam last,
races dont count.
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Blaqueen on April 05, 2003, 11:01:17 PM
where in the Qur'an did u see that?  :o
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Blaqueen on April 05, 2003, 11:05:47 PM
Quoteor do you enjoy shouting Peace Peace when our enemies shout Kill Kill?

can we identify the enemies first?
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: al_hamza on April 05, 2003, 11:21:02 PM
oh yes,
we can.
shatan!
he lurks amongst us,
as for an example......
your muslim as i suppose.
but you love the gurl in bra right?
(the one that shows on the left side of your posts)
i have a syndrome called "women respect to extreme"
why do you allways want me to turn against this disease?

as for where i saw what you say (in the Qur'an)

well maddame, there's a Hadith that says

"nations that have women as thier leaders will never be successfull"

i hope you are not a follower of Mo'ammar Gaddafi's "green book" cos they dont believe in Hadisan Annabi.
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Muhammad on April 06, 2003, 01:12:30 AM
Al hamza.
Just like you are in agreement with Lionger today, I am in agreement with Queen. There is no where in the Quran where women were directed not to lead a nation. Because in Islam things that are not condemned are condoned, I will opine that the story of Bilqees (Sheeba) is a good example of woman leadership.
Aisha (RA) lead, briefly, a campaign against Ali (RA) after the schism in the Islamic Ummah. Nusayba was a woman whom the prophet admired for protecting him from harm in the battle of Uhud. There are countless examples of women taking prominent roles in Islam but sadly neglected by early scholars because it is not part of their agenda.
What women are not allowed to do is expose themselve to unnecessary situations where they may be vunerable.
Women in my opinion should be able to lead although I am against it.
As for mugabe I think you are right. Mugabe is doing the wrong thing although his intentions are obviously good.
CIAO
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: al_hamza on April 06, 2003, 12:00:57 PM
well,
amin.
i hope you do know that sheba was b4 the relion Al-Islam was completed, as such yo will know that her bieng a queen doesnt count, though she was a pious lady.

secondly,
Aisha(R.T.A), i wouldnt want to lament on what happened least i sin, but am sure you do know the outcome of that war with Sayyedna Ali.

then again, my friend since you insist that its not in the Qur'an then you are probably right. But do we know of something called Hadith?
tell me something Amin, i havent read the whole of the Qur'an(translated) but as i have heard there is no place where its mentioned that we should pray five times, it comes from Hadiths.

so as far as i know, i'll try to find out the authenticity of this hadith but let me assre you, i have heard  from Imam Shafi, Imam Malik and Imam Hanafi followers, remainder Imam Hambali..... i dont know if you follow him as such maybe in that Mathab/tarika (guide) women are allowed to be rulers, but anyways, insha'Allah i'll try my best to get proof.

May Allah (S.W.T) guide us all
Amin
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Blaqueen on April 06, 2003, 06:24:32 PM
ok then.. why dont u go ahead and lecture meeh on religion.. ok.. hamza... juss skool meeh...
ask meeh again if i'm muslim.. >:( da alhaqqi fa.. u juss cant start yannin' dust... serious sin..
so DO go back to ur stance about respecting women and HOLD UR TONGUE (or hold back ur fingers)


well.. u know their are tons of false hadiths... and since it was NOT mentioned in the Qur'an.. its NOT FINAL! but maybe men's ideology slippin in...
cuz this aint the first time such things happen!

it was Queen Amina who expanded her father's empire.. not any of his sons!!!!!....
Queen Bilkis also was a remarkable woman!
Aisha and Khadijha highly respected!...
Aisha memorised the largest sets of hadiths and people for many generations consulted her regarding many issues... and ur telling meeh that doesnt display EXCELLENT FEMALE LEADERSHIP?? ?? ??
boy puh-leeezzzz!
i can go on and on... its traditional jahilci that holds back nations!

sha, why even bother... u already have it embedded in ur head.. and ur wrong ::)
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: al_hamza on April 06, 2003, 11:29:42 PM
its the way you take Islam, lightly as if its something to play around with.
Probably its my fault...... i shouldnt have been religeous. khalas ko ba haka ba?
i shouldnt have had a beard and i shouldnt have been intrested in religion,
that would have been soooo nice right?
you think i hate women?
no! for heavens sake, just like Khadija there are alot of examples of pious women.
dont you know that women ruling is the only point the west catches us muslims from?
read the article on the kanoonline front page,
you'll see a topic about islam and modern politics.
read about the women and politics issue,

what better do the enemies of Islam need?
our own women challenging the status that they should proudly accept!
women in turkey cry to be treated like women in saudi,
you that have freedom and have no sort of oppresion want to give yourself a false sense of emotionality.

kai
la'ilaha illalahu
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: ummita on April 06, 2003, 11:48:49 PM
Quoteits the way you take Islam, lightly as if its something to play around with.
Probably its my fault...... i shouldnt have been religeous. khalas ko ba haka ba?
i shouldnt have had a beard and i shouldnt have been intrested in religion,
that would have been soooo nice right?

I juss had 2 say sum'en here.....How on earth can we play about with religion or take it lightly..cant u juss pass a message? Y always twistin issues up...followed d whole thread........yanzu waye yace maka u shudnt b religious...Haba If this sort of sarcasim...well it aint fair on others.......cuz one cant speak of religion without sum1 bringin negativity......cum off it..this is a place we can tlk about religion & believe on d same terms......this is tooooooo bad 4 us..in wani wanda ba musulmi ba ya karanta wannan!!!! they'll b lyk well ......atleast they themselves gat issues of their own...Allah dai ya sawake
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: al_hamza on April 07, 2003, 12:11:04 AM
ummita,
on a more personal bases.....
why do you allways pick things that you like?
why dont you see the rest of the things too?

and dyme,
tons of hadith that are wrong,
yes its true......
but you and me are not the ones to choose which are right and which are wrong since we havent achieved that status.

there is a difference between leadership and ruler.
ruler is that who decides what goes on,
a person can be a good leader and not be a ruler.
Aisha(R.T.A) was a leader not a ruler.
full stop

i've had enough of head-on collisions tonight.
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: ummita on April 07, 2003, 12:21:23 AM
 To freedom of speech babu ne kuma. Alee a forum is basically a place where u can agree on a thread or disagree. Yanzu me nayi..of course I pick on wat I lyk> Wud u pick on sumthing u dislyk? Oya wanine rest of the thing? Lemme pick on them. Its not lyk any1 has 2 disagree on wat sum1 agrees on......its not d way it works in a forum. Mu dai mun shiga uku!!!! (Head on collisions)? D'uh!.............heck!!! I had 2 take sum paracetamol....bansen mene yasa wen we tlk u often mistwist issues. Haba Brova Alee. I will say no more.....one cant even tlk about religion!!!!!.....
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Muhammad on April 07, 2003, 12:58:57 AM
Salam
Mallam Al hamza naga sakon ka. I must say bakayi denying cewa Bilkisu was a ruler ba sai dai kace  wai lokacin ta ba addini Islama. This is not correct. Every pious prophet/leader was a Muslim although their laws were different. Annabi Ibrahim was a Muslim ka sani amma lokacin sa ai babu addini Islama kamar yadda ake practising yau. So, Sarauniya Bilqisu also was a Muslim and a ruler. thats a fact.
Game da hadisi, ai kamata yai kayi providing hadisin da annabi yayi, categorically, prohibiting mata suyi shugabanci. I must also say, my example using Aisha (RA) was inappropriate. Amma tunda malama cewa maizai hanata shugabanci.
kamar yadda nace rannan, I am against their being leaders because of emotional issues, but that does not mean they are not entitled to lead.
May Allah forgive our mistakes, Amin.
Bissalam
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: al_hamza on April 07, 2003, 09:26:31 PM
to,
mallam aminu.....
alhamdulillah na san ko wani annabin da yazo uniyan nan musulmi ne.
amma da annabi Mohammad (.S.A.W) ya zo akwai abbubuwa daya wa da aka hana wa'enda a can da ba'a haramta ba.

kaman giya,
ai da ba haram ne ba ko ba haka ba?

Bilqees was a ruler during an earlier period of Islam.
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: al_hamza on April 07, 2003, 09:31:24 PM
i meant alcohol wasnt haram during the earlier prophets,
lol kan ayi fatwa
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Anonymous on April 08, 2003, 12:03:16 PM
To ai mallamai, da Allah yaso mace da shugabanci da ya aiko da wani annabi mace,  a mace zata iya shugabancin mijinta or so.... amma not a whole society.............zai yiwu ana yi ,saboda ba duk abun da Allah yasa mu muke yi ba , ko in ya hana mu muke bari
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Muhammad on April 08, 2003, 07:53:29 PM
Salam me.
Wannan batun nako yazama sabo. Just because Allah did not send a female messenger doesnt mean HE distrusts their ability to discharge the affairs of a role like that.
Amma kasan cewa matar fir'uana was like a prophet to him because of her piety. Also, Saratu, the wife of Ibrahim was officially not a prophet but a symbolic figure of Islam. Also, Maryam, the mother of Isa was that kind of a woman.
I mean don Allah baiyi abu ba, you have no knowledge of why he did not do it. Allah is al Hakim and his wisdom is infinite......
BIssalam.
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: fulani_queen on April 18, 2003, 09:05:56 PM
there is nothin funny about u.s. attackin nigeria. we r also on their list of people they hate. there is nothin funny. i also heard it on tha news. bush can do anythin. (well that is if Allah ya bashi ikon yi)...but he can do anythin. he's not normal. he's a goat! tha donkey dosnt have a brain. he's a cow. ofcourse tha pig wants nigeria to be in his list of countries to attack, cuz all tha fish wants is to get oil.
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: fulani_queen on April 18, 2003, 09:09:34 PM
dont worry 2g.....we'll keep on prayin.
Allah ya kare mu duniya da lahira, (Ameen)
Allah sa mu dache duniya da lahira, (Ameen)
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Ibro2g on April 20, 2003, 01:00:03 AM
Ni kuma ina na shigo maganar nan fulani queen?
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: lionger on April 20, 2003, 11:14:54 PM
Quotethere is nothin funny about u.s. attackin nigeria. we r also on their list of people they hate. there is nothin funny. i also heard it on tha news. bush can do anythin. (well that is if Allah ya bashi ikon yi)...but he can do anythin. he's not normal. he's a goat! tha donkey dosnt have a brain. he's a cow. ofcourse tha pig wants nigeria to be in his list of countries to attack, cuz all tha fish wants is to get oil.

well i won't say that the U.S. hates nigeria..but if indeed we are on that list, well - what can we do? it bugles the mind as to how nigeria merited a place on the u.s. list for 'liberation'.

I don't know if i've said this before but bush's actions have long convinced me that the international community should have a stake in the election of an american president, in light of the enormous power he wields on the international scene. in the months leading up to the 2000 presidential elections, almost every american friend i had supported bush, whereas i and other non-american friends thought he was an idiot and an impending disaster on the international scene. in hindsight i can't say i was wrong. and unfortunately, the world should be prepared to deal with him for another six years. americans don't seem to have much political foresight these days.
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Ibro2g on April 22, 2003, 03:43:11 AM
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americans don't seem to have much political foresight these days.
They never had my friend, Americans are this kinda people, My America...My world. They never know what is actually happening in the real world except what he government wants them to.
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: fulani_queen on April 23, 2003, 07:09:10 PM
hahahh! ibro u told us to pray...and so i said okay we will...lol.
lionger, i agree with wat u said. lol! "wat can we do" ofcourse nothin. but there is somethin we could do...we could protest!....and ofcourse that bush is and idiot. he's more than and idiot. he's a moose! he doesnt know anythin.
i knew those american elections were'nt fair! if it was, that cow would'nt have won!
Title: ...Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: fulani_queen on April 23, 2003, 07:22:28 PM
ibro, americans dont know anything. they r so ignorant. this american, a guy asked him how many planets we had, and he said 12, he mentioned all the planets and then he mentioned the "moon", ?"galaxy" and this other thing that did not even exist!
could they get any stupider???!!!
bush thinks Africa is a COUNTRY!!!!!.... :-/
and one more thing ibro....
stop capitalizin tha 'A' in america. its gettin on my nerves.
Title: Re: ...Sabon Labari!
Post by: Blaqueen on April 24, 2003, 01:42:11 PM
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stop capitalizin tha 'A' in america. its gettin on my nerves.

LooooooL! so tht's wuts shacking u? lol :D

people.. juss to let u know.. this gurl is as american as ANY american.... see how u dey yab ur people..eya.. ms hayward wld be so disappointed.. :'( (ur US history teacher)?.. i thot u were even going to take "Advanced Placement US Govt"..? ::)
do u know where the atlantic ocean is? the babe doesnt even know where the indian ocean is.... i dey talk tru oooo!
na americana queen... ;D
Title: Re: ...Sabon Labari!
Post by: Ibro2g on April 25, 2003, 03:32:11 AM
Quoteibro, americans dont know anything. they r so ignorant. this american, a guy asked him how many planets we had, and he said 12, he mentioned all the planets and then he mentioned the "moon", ?"galaxy" and this other thing that did not even exist!
could they get any stupider???!!!
bush thinks Africa is a COUNTRY!!!!!.... :-/
and one more thing ibro....
stop capitalizin tha 'A' in america. its gettin on my nerves.

Believe me u r right...and hahah I wont capitalise it my dear.
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Ibro2g on April 25, 2003, 03:41:05 AM
SABON LABARI/LATEST NEWS

World war III is on...and it begins with all of you with oil.
There are only two sides...to choose contact bush...he'll tell u about his side or the others(dont know that yet until further information comes in). I'll leave you now....
this IS the news.
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: fulani_queen on April 28, 2003, 04:16:16 PM
thank u 2g :)
dyme why u de diss me like that?....juss cuz i dont know where tha pacific, atlantic, indian, and artic oceans are, dont make me stupid!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Blaqueen on May 01, 2003, 04:02:52 PM
sweetie.. it so does...
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: fulani_queen on May 03, 2003, 01:34:26 PM
no it doesnt!!!!....thats juss not niicee.... :-[
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Anonymous on May 19, 2003, 03:06:18 AM
Hmmm,If at all this is true,Only prayers can save us and mind you prayers alone cannot take us any where,We have to repent and be very good muslims for ALLAH to accept our prayers.We have to desist from our usuall actitivities such as  Zina,ludu,cin amana,etc.
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: Barde on May 19, 2003, 03:52:53 AM
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They never had my friend, Americans are this kinda people, My America...My world. They never know what is actually happening in the real world except what he government wants them to.
With prayers and repenters,ALLAH will surelly protect us from americans and their allies,ALLAH ya taimakemu AMIN SUMMA AMIN.
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: lionger on May 19, 2003, 12:42:26 PM
Of courswe Iraq's oil was a factor all the while. All the major players in the conflict (those opposed to and those supporting the war) had one eye fixed squarely on the oil.  France, Germany and Russia challenged the U.S. so vehemently on the issue is not because of some yeye moral conviction, but because Saddam had offered these countries oil contracts. He knew how to play the game very well.
Title: Re: Sabon Labari!
Post by: fulani_queen on May 19, 2003, 03:49:35 PM
yuP...i agree witH liONger...and alsO thA araBS arE toO dumB. theY don'T worK toGEtheR aS a teAm. thaT'S waT annOYs me.
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vehemently....wow! witH a caPiTal WAH!...LiONger...BIG worDS therE. :D