orite... with the flow of northerners to a somewhut...lemme say.. different lifestyle nowadays....
how far do u think is the limit... and how much can u forgive... and forget bout?
and i'm talkin bout.. maybe u got a man/lady... but the person has got a scandalous past... could be...
females: mode of dressin'... the kinda guys she dated... smokin'... a lil alcohol.. etc etc...
males: alcohol... a li'l drugs... the chics he been wit'...
u know.......useless things that are unacceptable in our culture...
::) ??? If every one has the right to forgive their past sins and forget about them everyone would have done so. Its not up 2 us 2 forgive or forget its up 2 the God of mankind.
Assalaam Alaikum,
1/2sa, we have to forgive (the person that has offended us) first before God will forgive.
Wat u r sayin is Its up 2 the person that u've offended 2 forgive you & If they dont forgive you you carry that sin until the year after!!!!! I know its a persons duty to ask for forgives from the one he'd offended but if the person does not or is not willing to forgive theres nothing more he/she can do and basically his duty is done!!!!!So u still tyrin to say its up to u only to forgive me or not!!! Its cummon sense gurl
Assalaam Alaikum,
1/2 sa, am a bit busy right now so I'll get back at ya insha Allah later.
um... lol... after first post.. ya'll already don commot from the topic...
or maybe i asked it in a funny way...
i was askin... would u actually get with someone or lets say..marry someone who had a scandalous past... u know.. the so-called "experimenting stage of teens"....?? how much of their past life can u forget about and think..."lemme forgive the person.. and carry on with a new life"...
whuts the limit of a person's action??
SALAM,
Wud'hav, shud'hav,cud I have 4given.. lets say a guy who was onces an alcoholic 'n' turns out 2 b my hubsy... Yeah absolutely, y not!!
Assalaam Alaikum,
Oh Ok :-[ :-[... but anyway I still have to clearify this with 1/2sa...
Yeah as I said a person has to forgive before Allah will. There is a difference between laifi da kayi wa Allah da kuma wanda kayi wa wani. The first one is between you and Allah while the second one is between you and the person you have offended... You ask Allah for forgiveness (in the first case) and the second one you ask the person da kayi wa laifin. He might or might not forgive you, but still it's him/her you ask for forgiveness and not Allah (idan mutum kayiwa laifin). Wallahu A'3lam.
;DBarka da! Smile!what's S M I L E?
Smile everyday...'cos you never know who will need it.
out of all of the people in the i'm lucky i met you .u make my days!
Quote;DBarka da! Smile!what's S M I L E?
Smile everyday...'cos you never know who will need it.
out of all of the people in the i'm lucky i met you .u make my days!
awww... i make his days..... :P
( :-/ ) ..... so.. um.... ;D ... ol' boi welcome!
ah... ummita.. see.. the females are always the first to say.. "i'll over look his past".. its not fair.. the guys always get it their way... to them.. na lie! they wont dare marry a girl who has even worn a tank top before... :-/
but i guess that's how life rolls... >:(
Mhmmm!! Get bck 2 u d soonest, Need sum crack up's :-X
I have this gut feeling the FDQ is a social outcast. All her post(assuming she is not of masculine gender) have pessimist tone.
This inclusive. Noting the negetive nature of your posts, FDQ, should not in any way be constued as being anti-FDQ-propaganda or tsana.
Just a facT.
That said, what you pointed out holds some truth, although NOrthern does not amount to Muslim who, basically in my realm of thinking, i believe are a bit more modest. MOdesty also does not amount to honesty in relationships and as such only sincerety matters
By the way, I admire your Internet Language skills.
Keep up the good work
CIAO
A sha ruwa lafiya
Cumon Amin, Wetin bi ur own, juss ansa di kweshion that all!! 8) u kuma FDQ since di man no grab, make u break down.
QuoteI have this gut feeling the FDQ is a social outcast.
LoL!!!!... u'll repent! ;) u have nooo idea!! lmao... funny.. "outkast"?... pissshh.. worreva.... ;D
newayzz.. lemme ask u dis directly..."would u marry/get wit' a lady who has had some kinda scandalous past"..."whut would u dubb as a lady's limits?" understooded?
ummita... gurl washap?!
We have to learn to forget before forgiveness. We should accept man/or wife no matter how bad their recent or past reputations colours out. For example a man who marries and heard that his chick was onces in the active service business (prostitution) & he loves her dearly.. so would you think he is going to kick her out of the house. Having her.. rufun asirinta because she is going to re-adjust her life which will bring lada to her husband... so who has gained more!!!? So it all comes down to forgivining and forgetting.
By the way AMIN that wasnt right. Wat you had up there. This is a forum.. its not only a place for you to outway others, and shes is a lady for that matter...manners of approach (where is it mallam)?
I knowwwwwwwww amin, hakika, i am sooo not impressed bout the way u addressed dyme! haba and u keep calling us "students" ! show us a good example mana!
QuoteWe have to learn to forget before forgiveness. We should accept man/or wife no matter how bad their recent or past reputations colours out. For example a man who marries and heard that his chick was onces in the active service business (prostitution) & he loves her dearly.. so would you think he is going to kick her out of the house. Having her.. rufun asirinta because she is going to re-adjust her life which will bring lada to her husband... so who has gained more!!!? So it all comes down to forgivining and forgetting.
By the way AMIN that wasnt right. Wat you had up there. This is a forum.. its not only a place for you to outway others, and shes is a lady for that matter...manners of approach (where is it mallam)?
um... amin... i'm juss wonderin'...... how on EARTH!!! can u actually go thru courtship, then move on to a decent relationship, up till the day ur married......... and u not know the woman ur about to jump the broom with was a hooker? :-/
Yeah man!! u tell him... my tolerance level on Amin is about 2 jump out d window. Am gon' put him on my hit list 8). Yeah!! sum of em woudnt b pretty kool havin a whore as a wifey or a pimp 4 a husby, which seems quite unforgiven 4 d past!!!!
To FyneDymeQueen; my wife to be
Nowaday's it's very hard to find a saint as a husband or an angel as a wife. You might think you've found one but the end of the day......... whats the out come!!!? a wife who had a 2 yr old kid from her past life?!!! Of course I will forgive her..if she has a genuine reason..
come oh... whut was dat 'bout?...
Oh my...FINALLY!!! I get to meet one of my uncles/granddads ...hehehe... Aunt Fyne ;D 8)
I cant marry a prostitute but something less than that mighht be considered .Kai kuma Mallam"baban yanmata" ai we cant take anything from you cos u seem to be a ladies guy
before i go Fyne Dyme King. Allah Reine!Allah jintum Balde!
ok... um.. before i continue to panic...
ginuine reason? for eg...whut would be a ginuine reason to be consuming alcohol as a teen?? "my friends were doing it"... "i was being kool"... orrrr whut?? cuz some reasons are no reasons at all...
i know..God forgives people.. therefore i should be able to do so too.... but.. some past behaviors will seriously affect the future... or that's juss how i see it...
Ihsan darlin'... aint no FDking...aight? hun, people tryna mess wit' ya head.. dont pay them no mind...
Dyme,
I think we can forgive but we can never forget,so i think marrying someone you have doubts on(as in someone that has a bad past) is not going to result in something positive.i might be wrong.but come to think 'bout it once you really love somebody i think u can overlook whutever that person has done in the past.
Another thing,as a man i think you should look for a good mother for your children,and as a woman you should look for a good father for your children as well.now guys dont judge me wrong ,i'm not saying we shoul'nt give a second chance ,i mean almost everybody has done some crazy things in their lives.....Allah dai Ya taimaka ,YA kuma rufa mana asiri(ameen).
Salamu alaikum
I really tried to not get into this discussion...but i will just drop some.
Anywayz just this question???
Is it fair that this nice n sweet n innocent gurl gets married to this Trifilin' pimp.... ?
ehhh yall go figure..
there r certain things dat are unacceptable but I believe to err is human and to forgive is divine.And I also believe dat da things dat people in luv do are long remembered if they choose to stay together it is not because they forget,it because they forgive
You can forgive and forget, but that always depends on the person who is forgiving and that who is to be forgiven. I can forget and forgive....but there are always limitations. What usually melts down this limitations are assurances of positive changes. Real ones.
i was askin... would u actually get with someone or lets say..marry someone who had a scandalous past... u know.. the so-called "experimenting stage of teens"....?? how much of their past life can u forget about and think..."lemme forgive the person.. and carry on with a new life"...
whuts the limit of a person's action??
Well...I van marry whoever it is...as long as she is what she is now (da good one) not what she was. People have to understand that everyone has a badside, somepeeps luck is just bursted that thiers is publicised. But at the end of the day no one is clean. A good reputation is good but it could also be aquired...right? I believe in second and even maybe third chances...hey gurls give em a chanc okay...you might not regret it...and it's saving a life.
y'know.. that kinda make deep sense
whut if the person doesnt change nko? na anoda wahala! :-/
thats different, then u don`t accept.
Gracious meh!!! all these old topics from d past r so nice. I miss most of dem ppl!
Would you forgive a man who slaps you on the first day of your marriage? (Witnessed it)!!
Would you forgive a woman yho burns out most of your assests because you are getting married (witnessed that as well), uses a bulldozer to smash ur house and car, & called u names in d presence of ur freinds?
Back in the days, I never did forgive my childhood freind for frying & eating two of my pet fishes maybe I will reconsider now, mayb not :-/
Havin in mind that the house was brand new, still under construction, took her 2 show her......two of the apartments & she ended up usin a nearby truck to run it down
GENTLEMEN wuna go 4give?
SAM SAM.............i'll not 4give her.....ifact i'll take revenge.........i'll go run down her papa's house(even tho i'll just run down half of it).......
ladies, better not try that coz it wont be funny
Ummita tell me u didnt witness it.........
QuoteSAM SAM.............i'll not 4give her.....ifact i'll take revenge.........i'll go run down her papa's house(even tho i'll just run down half of it).......
Ummita tell me u didnt witness it.........
Great Mugu Gogannaka! ;D
mhmm let me finish the story.........nidai I saw the bulldozed house but was not there when it happened but alot of family freinds were present. Kai amman wallahi Aisha ta iya tsiya ko Ummita ;D
Story number two is that: When Ummita was pretty young she never hangs out with girls only boys mostly if they are hausas. Tribalist number one ::). I remeber paying her a visit one day and she ingored me but was off riding keke with a freind she calls Emmanuel, kirdi ne ma yaron fa ::) so he asked if he can see her fishes and she was very obliged to do so. Her nan called ummita and Emmanuel went off to their kitchen and opened their microwave & set off her fish to high. We came to see the horror..............ewwwwwwwwww the smellllllllllllllllllllllll and Ummita cried and cried and HAfsy laughed and laughed and ummita kept a grudge agaisnt me and I didnt care because that will teach her a learn to also care about a freind like me. ::) Till this day when I see Ummita she keeps cursing at Emmanuel, I even heard she wanted to track him down. That means she still has not forgiven.(she will crucify me when she gets to read this nima then I will not forgive her)
My own episode is I find it difficult to forgive this Nigga that burnt my first EID dress whilst ironing I was only 2yrs and I still remember. That dress was given to me by my grandfather just too days before he passed away. You know kids never let go of things. IT STILL HURTS ME. But hey ;D The dress burner is so old now but when I set my sights on him after so many years I just said : Oh he was the one who burnt my dress ko auntie! An d my mum said Hafsy you will never forgive ne? :-/
Quote
Great Mugu Gogannaka! ;D
mhmm let me finish the story.........nidai I saw the bulldozed house but was not there when it happened but alot of family freinds were present. Kai amman wallahi Aisha ta iya tsiya ko Ummita ;D
You guys are not serious are u?............pls tell us its a joke.
We r as a matter of factly......though seein is believin..wish u was there u wudhav seem real drama(she laffs)
wallahi i no go forgive her if i were that guy 8).......she de craz ne?????? infact, g-naka na ur steps i go take....
hmmmm..... u girls have surely seen events in ur lives :o :o..... i think u shud open a new thread :" Around the world with Ummita and 1/2sy"....tell us all about those adventures u have seen, it'll certainly make a nice topic. all we'll do is LISTEN, LISTEN n LISTEN ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
guys, what do u say?
ppl wit a past r usually very interesting.
Zeezee, u talk true. I'd like to go round the world wid Hafcy and Ummitah.
That Aysha gurl...I'm speachless. Umiitah u give mi da big laffs. 1/2cy I bet u were the gang leader in ur days. You control all that happens in ur territory, u know, like the lil rascals. May I ask, was ummitah ur P.A back then at Umuahia!hahah.
Well Guyz, I have this wierd story I'm writing, and I will be writing it in chapters. Its a wierd love story and I will like to share it wid u. I will paste a chapter, or atleast its equivalence every week or so. I know ummitah hates "love" and hafcy is in love wid Aydee, Mudacriss has a love problem and Humrah is in love wid waz, and where hek is mah love twinkle? but its more than just that. The question here is should I?
fire on bro! pls......we will be waiting for chapter 1.....
by the way, u must be really smart to have decoded how some of k-onliners are with LOVE... ;D
Carry on Ibro!!!spit it out
Okay, I'll put it Chapter one on tomorow, I call it:
Around the corner[/u][/b]
Yeah, I like this topic, what's up and poppin.
Forgivin your gal frien mistake is serious cuzz the gal may have don som real scandalus shif. Like bonin your neighbor before you met, I don trip of d small stuff man, but I can't fool wit a skeezo, and daz fe sheeelo. Cuz people be doin some real scandulus lit, you know what I mean fam, real scandulous lit, Make a good man una sey, dalizle fe shizzle dis gal from scandavizzle, I mean a packed closet. Forgin' is tuff, becuz you will remember. But us men hav it easy.
These gurls u r really funny ;D ;D ;D
Your armoured tank is loaded with bombs, just release them
and unleash terror at the slightest opportunity, this way zaki
huce haushi. On the alternative, calm down and forget but
dont forgive. 8)
Seriously speaking akwai ayar Al Qur'an that talks about repaying evil with good. It goes on to say that Allah SWT Does not Give this ability to do anyone except those who are destined for BIG REWARDS in the hereafter. So I would advise u Hafsy to perform wudhu, and say two rakaas to help u get over this terrible inclination to revenge that is eating you. The consequences u say are dire. But in effect u really cant predict just how far reachiing they would be at this stage. So rather dont attempt it. You may end up regretting it.
It'll be better you forgive.
On thing with not carrying out the 'eye for eye' or 'tit for tat' action is that forgiveness places you a step ahead of the offender.
'idan abokin fadan ka ya ci mushe to kai kada ka ci,idan ba hakaba to kun zama daya'
Hhmmmm! Depend on what she does to her, somethings are just unforgivable.....
Only one thing is unforgivable MYSELF.. and that is Shirk billahi.
Everything else can be water under the bridge. It takes great courage effort and patience to practice that kine forgiveness. On the other hand if one cant forgive, one should barma Allah. That is the better alternative to seeking revenge.
The revenge ne that Hafcy talks about according to her will be terrible. Only terrible ppl can carry out terrible revenges and her seeking advice shows she hasnt reached that stage of terrorrism ;D ;D ;D ;D Lets hope she's not thinking of suicide bombing..... :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D
Haba Auntyn Muhsin, Shirk is only for Allah, but in the
case of human being you have the choice of not forgiving
and taking revenge.
Mutumiyata zuba wuta.
Quote from: Dan-Borno on January 04, 2008, 09:09:18 AM
Haba Auntyn Muhsin, Shirk is only for Allah, but in the
case of human being you have the choice of not forgiving
and taking revenge.
Lol DB. Wai who is the Ultimate Forgiver ne? Ba Allah SWT ba? Shi Ya ce He Forgives anything except Shirk billah. So if Allah can Forgive us anything except that, ashe for us everything is forgivable tunda za a iya tarrayya da dan Adam, amma ba za a iya tarrayya da Ubangiji ba. So who are we not to forgive?
Quote from: Dan-Borno on January 04, 2008, 09:09:18 AMMutumiyata zuba wuta.
Hafcy, ingiza mai kantu ruwa yake miki!! to kinji dai! if u take his advice he will be far far away when u will be reeling from the consequences of yr actions!! ;D