Mr Admin, how can you have a section on this website for Islam and non for christain, Do you mean that there are no christain in Kanostate or Kano citizen are who are christain are not welcome.. Please reply..
Quote from: "mrguest"Mr Admin, how can you have a section on this website for Islam and non for christain, Do you mean that there are no christain in Kanostate or Kano citizen are who are christain are not welcome.. Please reply..
If it were a rational,sane,articulate and unprejudiced person that had raised this issue,i am sure our learned forumites would have bother to reply.But unfortunately mrguest,a dullard per-excellence,seems so blinded with sentiment and hatred that his major preoccupation is to stoke the embers of enmity and intollerance.
Keeping quite to these myopic irredentists would amount to aquescens,joining issues with them on the other hand may give them an undeserved relevance.Then what should one do in this helpless situation?I believe it is better to meet them on their terrain,at their level and tear their prejudical sentiment to shreds.It will be helpful also to identify and pschologically address their inferiority complex!
Indeed any discernible observer would readily see and identify the kind of mental and psychological indolent that mrguest readilly used to exhibit by his twisted and uncompromising postulations,so far in this forum.
How would a sensible person ever contemplated an intellectual discourse forum like kanoonline, to consciously apply a "quota system" in the presentation of it's forum index?
Besides,i believe the site was created and maintained by a dedicated and consumate intellectuals who believed in cherishing and propagating the culture and tradition of their society.Moreover, the site was meant to be an avenue of projecting the customs and inherent values of essentially Hausa people in perticular.And there is no any doubt that there is no clear distinction between the Hausa and Islamic culture and tradition.
Therefore, it will only be a MONUMENTAL fool that would try to separate Hausa and Islam in any reasonable study or discource as far as history and culture of the two is concerned.
Then why should the whimpering mrguest feel agitated, by not seeing "xtian" topic,not the great christian religion as we understood it,but the kind of cult group where the likes of prejudiced mrguest, used to ventilate and forment their latent disdain for anything Islamic.
In addition,let mrguest understand that the culture and tradition of Kano people is basically Islamic,he should therefore bury his sectional sentiment and strive to understand, rather than despise the people he knows little or nothing about.
Conclusively,i am absolutely certain that those behind the kanoonline project and indeed most of the members are certainly unpertubed by the the kind of defeatist attitudes of the frustrated lots-represented by the likes of a clearly misguided faceless mrguest.
Mr , Ba turachi,,, I do not know How to speak english, you are the first Islam Hausa English prof... I believe that in Kano allow, there are more than 150 churches in the town.. and in the whole of the state there are more than 400 churches in it... There are more than 1 miliion(20%) kanostate citizen who are christain today ... I do admit that muslim are in majority,, But if this is a state website, it should reflect the reality on ground , rather than Islamic values...
So I still want the Admin to Immedaitely Include a christain portion on this site or remove the islamic one...
Mr , I want you to go back to your history and find out how your fulani slave master force you to accept Islam.. Ask your fore father, How many Hausa life was loses... when Usman dan folio invade the great Hausa empire... so if you have to be pride, I do not see what you are proud of.
So Mr Admin, I would want you to remove the Islamic portion or Include a christain portion in the name of justice and fair play.
Quote from: "mrguest"Mr , Ba turachi,,, I do not know How to speak english, you are the first Islam Hausa English prof... I believe that in Kano allow, there are more than 150 churches in the town.. and in the whole of the state there are more than 400 churches in it... There are more than 1 miliion(20%) kanostate citizen who are christain today ... I do admit that muslim are in majority,, But if this is a state website, it should reflect the reality on ground , rather than Islamic values...
So I still want the Admin to Immedaitely Include a christain portion on this site or remove the islamic one...
Mr , I want you to go back to your history and find out how your fulani slave master force you to accept Islam.. Ask your fore father, How many Hausa life was loses... when Usman dan folio invade the great Hausa empire... so if you have to be pride, I do not see what you are proud of.
So Mr Admin, I would want you to remove the Islamic portion or Include a christain portion in the name of justice and fair play.
Honestly i sometimes wonder why i have to waste my valuable time trying to communicate with a pure
Dakiki-dumb,dullard,completely uncivilised person of your standing.When visiting this site, didn't you pause to read the disclaimer notice on the front page of the site?Then how can you claim that the site represent the views,wishes and aspiraations of the state government?
....You dont see what we are proud of ? of course you wouldn't, because of your blind jealousy and inferiority complex.For your information, Xtianity has no any significant presence in Kano.Go and ask the Xtians who are essentially settlers in kano....they would tell you that they are peacefully and comfortably living with their considerate hosts,unlike elsewhere where failure in life is mischiviuously ascribed to the "muslim fulani".
mrguest,watch your blood pressure,for you will only be mortally injuring your health by harbouring an enmity and hatred on issues that you have nothing to do about.
Bury your hatred,discard mischief and embrace knowledge.That is the best advice i can give you at the moment.
Mr Idawada , When did you now become the mouth piece of the Admin. Mr Busy body.... Go and look for work to do,, Jobless man
LOL LOL i am just wondering how old the two of u are- bickering like women! perhaps the forumites should vote on the issue- majority wins!
Never argue with a jerk who has time on his hands.
err *coughs* ehem ehem..........a?a haba ya?all taking it harshly. Kuyi hakuri fah! I think ya?all takin things ovaboard. I think we can all chip-in, but on a rather lower level. I dnt think mrguest did anything wrong by putting up a request. I personally think mrguest can openly request for a Christian forum, which is quite reasonable. We have non-Muslims non-Hausa speakers & people who not geographically residing in Kano visiting this forum. And that is absolutely fine. We are all here gathered for one sole reason, to par-take or fully participate on discussions for our own beneficiary. Even though, the vast majority of Kanoonline members are Muslims but we still have christians & probably other people with different religious values patronising this website not for any other reason but the same reason that we all do. And that is discussions! If it so happens we have a space that we can discuss our own religion & others notice they don?t have then it is quite understandable if they raise any requisitions. If you totally oppose to his request, then I do not think you or anyone should make it into such a big issue. For instance we have European countries that are like 80% non-Muslims but if there is a high rate of Muslims living amongst them they tend to provide for other religions if it is on demand. If I visited a forum where there is a christian thread centre & if there were ALOT of frequent Muslims patronising the website then I would definitely raise requisitions on why cant we have a forum BUT (*a big stress to my but*) only if there are a lot of Muslims.
On d other hand, mrguest, I would like 2 point out that its not right 2 directly label the admin as being bias. This is a false allegation. You can make a request on wat u would want & discussions can be held & a conclusion can be drawn from there. I believe the admin did not intentionally create a forum purposely 2 stir up any discrimination. However, an Islamic forum was created & targeted to the Muslims or those with interest in Islam. I don?t think he did that to discriminate or because he disregards other religions. Am sure that?s not his intention.
You also have to understand that 90% of the people here are Muslims & for d beneficiary of Islamic followers, a thread room has been created to hold intellectual discussions & 2 enlighten people, thus it will be unjust to have it removed in d sense that it will only remain if a christian forum was placed. To b reasonably fair, u also have to weigh things, if ONLY THERE WERE A LOT of Christians visiting this forum den probably a forum for christianty discussions might b provided but I dnt think there is enough people for that! Logically thinking, its juss like me attending an orthodox christian wedding & I will stir up an issue-saying ?if the couples dnt have a Muslim blessing the wedding should be annulled?. Or a christian family friend attending a Muslim wedding & raising up issues that, ?if the couple do not have a Christian blessing d wedding muss b called off?!! But wat u call ur own must hav ur own. So wat u basically tryna say is, if a Hindu shud visit this forum they must have their own forum. If a Jew visit they must have theirs & also if a Buddist visits, they must also have their own forum otherwise d Islamic forum must b removed. C?mmon u shud also think rationally. You?ve got 2 understand that in as much as everyone is welcomed here d forum stands as a dedication to the Arewas & thus every necessity associated for dem muss b provided.
All in all, there are many religious discussions held here in the ?general forum?. At the moment I think it should serve a place to hold any christian discussions because a lot have already been held. Try tracing up old topics. At d moment, I think u juss gotta wait 4 d admin 2 conclude cus he has d final say. From Muslims to christians to Jews infact to even those that don?t believe in any religion, everyone is welcomed here. This is like a school??.d only difference is we dnt sit on chairs & tables & dnt get assignments! We shud try 2 b rationale & deal wit things peaceful & 2 hav as much regards 4 religion & 2 keep it out of things as much as possible so dat things will not escalate on anoda level!!! If it was me I won?t worry, keeping faith ?n? religion close 2 d heart is all dat mattas! No offense on lil things
salam
i kinda think mrguest is right BUT he is not the proper person to raise it up. because his prior statements in regards to religious (Islam in particular) issues have been so prejudicial and biased (which is the indictment he had for admin) that his clamor for a xtian forum is beclouded by his internal complexes.
Admin the best way to get out of this is by calling up a vote. If the majority of people here agree then yes otherwise no nxtian forum.
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i kinda think mrguest is right BUT he is not the proper person to raise it up. because his prior statements in regards to religious (Islam in particular) issues have been so prejudicial and biased (which is the indictment he had for admin) that his clamor for a xtian forum is beclouded by his internal complexes.
Admin the best way to get out of this is by calling up a vote. If the majority of people here agree then yes otherwise no nxtian forum.
My your dudu, did the admin call for a vote, when he icluded Islamic forum... if he he did not, and He want to proof to the whole world he is not a bias person. He should place a christain forum. To show that he is a fair and justice man, but if he is not a fair and justice man he should not place a christain forum... I would not discuss this topic again with any of you.
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... I would not discuss this topic again with any of you.[/quote]
Awww Shucks!! What a shame. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Myadudu & co see what you have caused. There goes our chance to see another potentially witty, rational, intelligent and intellectually charged point of view from the master himself.
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... I would not discuss this topic again with any of you.[/quote]
Awww Shucks!! What a shame. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Myadudu & co see what you have caused. There goes a our chance to see another potentially witty, rational, intelligent and intellectually charged point of view from the master himself.[/quote]
My friend doesn't resist a tickle,you need only to chuck him and then.....wanna try?
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... I would not discuss this topic again with any of you.
Awww Shucks!! What a shame. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Myadudu & co see what you have caused. There goes a our chance to see another potentially witty, rational, intelligent and intellectually charged point of view from the master himself.[/quote]
My friend doesn't resist a tickle,you need only to chuck him and then.....wanna try?[/quote]
:lol: :lol: :lol: ha ha ha. Ko na zunguro mana shi ne?, but then again who needs the extra hassle. I say let sleeping jerks lie!
Guys and Ladies you are all confused! yes, especially myadudu!
Let me remind you that this SITE does not belong to KANO STATE GOVERNMENT...to my understanding.
IF A CHRISTIAN FORUM IS ADDED THEN A TRADITIONAL RELIGION WHICH IS EVEN MORE SIGNIFICANT IN TERMS OF INDIGENE ADHERENTS THAN CHRISTIANITY MUST BE ADDED TOO!
8) If there is a voice for Christians on Kano Online then there should be a voice for the maguzuwa. Ka gani ko!
Separately, I think Western secularism instead of Christianity is responsible for the spread of promiscuity, fornication and STDs. Any comments?
I like baruti's ender!! I have just seen this thread and I think it makes intresting reading and funny somewhat. I personally believe that Indabawas response was in reaction to the manner and tone that mrguest used to raise his question, and I understand Indabawas reaction. I must say I am extremely impressed with ummitas input on the discussion and her desire for fairness, she has given us food for thought. Being a minority should not be the reason to ignore or disregard a group I think we must be very careful of that we will be infringing on peoples rights. Can you imagine the western world refusing islam a voice just because they are a minority? I think Eskimo and baruti raised important points vis when then do we then stop adding? I laughed when I read barutis posting about including a maguzawas forum, but to think of it that might no be a bad idea maybe admin should look at the viability of such. Anyway back to the topic, I think mrguest did not raise his point in a manner it can be appreciated as a concern and acted on, secondly I doubt the viability of such a forum.
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Eskimo, Baruti was right. Secularism is the problem not Christianity. The refrence you made to some places inthe Bible is also correct but the fact remains that they are never accepted as good actions by Christians; they are never believed to be part of the law.
Remember the Roman Catholic Church, till this day, never relented on its fight against secularism and freemasonry which are the banner holders of todays world. Read my article, published today, 10th September, 2004, by New Nigeria in its Islamic Column .
Eskimo,
I'm sorry, but it is my humble opinion that you have overstepped the boundaries of reasonable logic once again. Since this thread deals with our sensitivity to other faiths, correcting gross (and in this case curiously lazy) misrepresentations of other faiths surely is not out of place. However to thoroughly answer all your points would be quite too cumbersome. Therefore, I'll say to you what my Lord said said to the Pharisees: Stop judging by mere appearances, and make a correct judgement! Think about it :D
All protocols duly observed!!!! Mr. Guest, one thing that you've to remember is that there is a way you are supposed to table your complaints. But the way you abruptly vomit your request was quite uncivilised perhaps that could be a factor to my friend's (Indabawa's) sudden outburst. However, one thing has to be made clear here and it is in the best interest of all of us. Islam and christianity are religions that preach peace and tranquility. I wonder why some people want to be mischievous in trying to identify with these religions. First and foremost you've a case and by way of social and intellectual reasoning, you are right to demand for inclusion of christian section, it is therefore quite unbecoming to start giving it an incisive title.
Politely one can ask for example, "Mr. Admin kindly allow a space for other religions. For i noticed that it is only Islam that is given a space etc." Now left for admin to come out and give you reasons for doing so. If his reasons are not sufficient, one can go and say whatever he/she wants to say. And if we do not forget this kind of approach has caused alot of misunderstanding, violence, conflicts, anarchy, intolerance, irreligion, mayhem, disaster, catastrophe, brutalities, vandetta and so on and so forth.One may end up writing things that can get him out of his religious duties and God will never take it lightly.
I therefore urge my friend Mr. Guest to please tread sofly and get what he wants rather than exchanging grammar between him and my acquainted friend (Indabawa). The duo should know that two wrongs can never make a right. And in any resolution process there must be consensus ad idem i.e coming together of two minds to agree on certain things.