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Title: The new Hausa era.
Post by: Ibro2g on April 01, 2003, 11:50:21 AM
Onliners!!!, Can anyone REALLY tell me what?s a Hausa mans present status in today?s Islamic society?

Would you agree if I say, the Hausa people are becoming amongst one of the worse tribes in Nigeria? Or would you merely ignore the facts that, From the way I see it, we are becoming no different to the wild Arabia of the pre Islamic era. Our Modesty, Pride & Trust. Now this I put & forward as a question to you all!!  

Isnt it true that
Gone were the days when the words of the Hausas are trusted?  
Gone were the days when our daughters had their prides & were pious & clean?
Gone were the days when our neighbourhood was brotherhood?
Maybe Gone is half the real Islamic north, the uncorrupted north, and the peaceful north in this Islamic era. Maybe it has become something I can say now say prehistoric story in history!!!?
 
I can also say that Hausa on its own finds itself, barely comparable to what the Hausa society was...known for, some of it destroyed, others are in line.  

Facts like these can not be ignored.
Take a good look at our people today. The men, proudly kill at will, homosexuals & Lesbians of the national order and the highest of class and ranks, fraudsters in the market and many other places, selfishness, ignorance, hatred,unthrustworthiness, and oppression, liars, beggars (the highest tally in Nija), ritualists, thieves both armed and desk robbers. The women aren't any different, worse yet we got madams (sugar moms), prostitutes etc. Young girls with teenage pregnancies,abortion, nudity and ill dressing, disrespect, drugs and a thousand other adopted attitudes and habits that are mostly westernised, and never associated with us. Henceforth the disguise these satanic behaviours with pretence and create an illusion for compensation.  

Would you agree if I say only few that hold on to a lil faith of Islam holds the north together, and try to maintain what it was from the lil pieces they could gather.  
I know most of these things are common to some other ethnic groups but the difference is we were never associated with it, we are falling, and becoming rotten. How far are we going to destroy Islam & say it?s all about being westernised? How far will we go & to what extend are we going to continue behaving unreal in the reality of ISLAMICITY.  

Reality?s not strange in Islam, not unexpected. Reality doesn?t reside in the sudden hallucinations of events. Reality is when things happen which is truly a real event. Reality is when things happen for every genuine reason. How many of the events of history have occurred?. for no other reason, but Islam!!!  Now how many unreal things are happening in the world of Islam which is unreal in Islam and is wiping away the reality of Islam in thsi prsent era of Northern Muslims?






wid lots of help and appreciation to ummitah.
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: al_hamza on April 01, 2003, 08:53:07 PM
People dont call me extremist for nothing.
we sit thousands of miles away from the west,
but our boys and gurls want to copy them....
how is it so?
media ko?
again i repeat people dont call me extremist for nothing.
its high time we wake up
i am highly glad someone else has come up with concrete evidence of the poisoning of our society.
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: lionger on April 02, 2003, 12:21:38 AM
Guys this is a result of a bigger phenomenon called 'globalization' or free trade. This benefits the western countries and its multinational companies, but victimizes the third world. Along with environmental destruction, loss of worker's rights, worsening infrastructure and eventually the viscious cycle/bottomless pit of increasing debt, the loss of cultural identity is also a problem. Some countries like south korea have managed to develop their economy while valiantly defending their culture from western erosion to some degree; but the changes are still very clear. i spent some time there, and i must say that the pervasion of mcdonalds, burger king, kfc and other fast-food chains are having a terrible effect on the new generation.in all my days in nigeria i never ate at those places; but i saw many of their ads on tv and couldn't wait to experience such things; but for that to happen i had to leave naija..

These things have a lure, especially if you're young and of the middle/lower class in an underdeveloped country like nigeria. And unfortunately, tight jeans, teenage 'freedom of expression', drugs and all other social vices of the west will get imported into nigeria alomg with 'economic trade'. So in essense i'm saying that this is not just a problem to the Hausas or muslims; its a problem all LDCs (lesser developed countries) in tthe world today have to face.
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: ummita on April 02, 2003, 01:46:18 AM
Quote
wid lots of help and appreciation to ummitah.
U kiddin me ryt? I dunno wat u tklin 'bout

This is a gud line of thread u've started Ibro...2 thumbs up 4 ma hommie.....

Yeah issues like this can not be ignored, yes all you have said is happening.
With regards to women & dressing, I totally are with it. Of course women these days r going naked which is no longer news for they are unda d yoke of fashion & its savagery otherwise called civilisation(but they will tell him d truth on that day) ::) There appear to b fierce competition for 'Miss Naked of d century' If I may say...well perharps the 'winner' will emerge when these women begin to sow together and wear transparent nylon sheets [similar 2 d onces used 4 bread packaging]!!!!! ::)

Wat duz Islam say 2 abortion:?
Islam 4bids human involvement in the termination of pregnancy. It regards life as sacrosanct.Why du d hausa/northerners still du it?

Wat duz Islam say 2 Drugs & Alcohol:?
Any substance that clouds the minds or impairs reasoning, perception or discernment is forbidden in Islam. Why du d hausa/northerners still du it?

Wat duz Islam say 2 Homosexuality;?
Islam 4bids homosexual practise regarding them as a great sin. But I just read an article that this ill pracitise of gay men is amonsgt d hausa & rich ogas!!! Dunno a zilch whether its true or not.

Religion kept alive by heresies, which are really sudden explosions of faith. Dead religions do not produce them.

I wonda if our Hausa Islamic era will 4eva keep Islam alive by heresies in the nxt zillion year to come, or mayb they will b so engrossed with civilisation & mordernisation. (Allah kada ka nuna mana raner)............Or mayb this civilisations of the hausawas that is degrading our religion will still remain one of d unsolved mysteries 2 lyf...........(cuz I c no reason when  religion clearly states its rules but ppl juss side step these rules)!!!

Is it ignorance and illetracy? Nah I dont think so ::) Cuz I believe all hausa/northerners were born muslims, grew 2 b muslims, had faith in their hearts as muslims, still living & will die muslims. They've preched Islam, They've read & heard Islam, There are clear evidence & proof of the reality of Islam. They hav knowledge on wat Islam turn its back agaisnt. Yet why do they ignore such things? Things that if not ignored will neva lead one astray but if ignored will definately lead one astray. Yet we also claim 2 b d fore fore bearers of Islamicity, when it is being corrupted by some muslims ummahs (hausa/notherners)......Its not everything we will blame on civilisation, mordernisation, & media!! How about changin d whole scope 4 onces & concetrating on only muslims alone & pointin fingers on muslims alone who moved with d cheese! Accepted civilisation & modernisation changes & moved with it......Ok why shud they?If @ all these changes affects Islam, which 4bids it?
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: al_hamza on April 02, 2003, 09:58:39 AM
i have witnessed male prostitiution in kano.
they used to be there on ahmadu bello way with hankerchiefs tied to thier wrists,
i know if they still exist cos i left b4 sharia started.
as for the notion of economy,
well Saudi-Arabia is a big market of american products.
still i havent witnessed naked gurls on the street.
why?
because Saudia has a very closely censored media,
I used to eat at mcdonalds and kfc (bieng a student its highly economical time-wise), Pakistan is a very big market for american multi-national companies. They make a staggering $8.7Billion a WEEK from this nation. Lately all american products are bieng boycotted by Pakistanis that includes everything from drinks to detergent powder from Mcds to american home appliances, they are a way of enriching the US....... but i still cant see a relation of these products with westernisation.

the question remains,
how does thier culture affect ours?
certainly not economy.

 
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: ummita on April 02, 2003, 12:10:40 PM
Quote,
well Saudi-Arabia is a big market of american products.
still i havent witnessed naked gurls on the street.
why?


Why? Why? Allah Al-Hamza sumtyms u r on d wrong train but on d right track, sumtyms on the right track but on the wrong train, sumtyms on the right train & right track........but absolutely right followed by wrong & in between!!! :-/

U r askin way women dont engage in prostitution in Saudi?!!! U say it b'cuz of d closely linked media......That I totally disagree & disregard, there r so many stations that show programmes in Saudi, in such programmes women dont even cova up, they dance sing & even du programmes that potrays muslim life (say) family lyf between man & wife (in such programme u will c how women disobey men & so many ill acts) but of course theres nefink lyk nudity & henceforth,...Dubai features programme which is viewed in Saudi.......so y du they not copy of?

(I dont even know wat 2 say) It has nothin 2 du with media Oh hell nawz, Rather its this simple... Allahs kingdom, place of piousness, Holy land of d prophet, That is where the first steps of Islam started & grew world wide,  That is where the first objectives, values beliefs morals & principles of Islam started & that is Where the rules regarding prostitution was implied...........& in there is where all muslims well majority of 'em comply with these rules & that is y u will hardly fynd a true beliver a true sista enagigin in that sort of money makin biz!!!

Such an act is forbidden....iz juss lyk a mother bannin her child from duin sum'en......which is of course not good & 4 his own safety & havin sum1 lyk u sayin why even thou u know d reason. Ok I dont really get it, r u challengin.........or mayb b am juss miscalculatin & ova analysin u in d whole situation!!? but then again ur post says it all ( ::)).

Ok hausa muslims with regards to Islam is (wat d topic speaks of) & is certainly not economicity.......as u said....rather corruption of muslims by muslims thereselves.
Hamza u hav started again ko?
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: Hafsy_Lady on April 02, 2003, 01:31:07 PM
Yes Ibro and gone were the days when muslims have true characters, patience and perserverances,mercy & benefits, truthfulness, kindness & humbleness.

Ummita good point raised there. For how long will we continue to blame civilasaiton? Who to blame is the people themselves. Things just dont occur out of the bloom, not until the people themselves want it to!!!!!!!
Hausawa are northerners and these northerners are muslims but do they all do the right thing Islam say. No why because they have allowed civilisaiton to work its way in thier minds, and NOT civilisation to be blamed on its own.
A muslim believes about Allahs Knowledge, a true believer speaks accordance with what the qura'n says, in obeying Allah & rasul the beliver starts himself but nowadays I hardly find northerners sticking to this. Rather alot of hausa girls on prostituion & lesbianism, mode of dressing is something of another issue, infact the bigggggggggggg one I have seen alot of brothers and sistas in islam kuma they are hausas, fulanis,Kanuris & even babur that they dont even observe the five daily prayers. People will keep talking about corruption corruption but they forget to talk about individuality and the muslims that harms and give a bad reputation!!!(ALLAH YA SHIRYE MU GABA DAYA)

Nice post Ibro ;)  
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: al_hamza on April 02, 2003, 08:37:23 PM
oh my God,
i didnt mean prostitiution,
i mean gurls wearing clothes and at the sametime showing off thier bodies.
You think media doesnt have a great role to play in the development of minds?
and who said in Islam a woman is supposed to say yes to her husband whenever he wishes?
men and women have equal rights in Islam.
she has the right to dis-obey but that doesnt mean that she takes it as pride and do as she wishs.
Ofcourse if she does she has to pay for the consequences.
............................................................................

i hope am on the right train, right track & right destination.
Oh i hope i havent gone to the wrong station  ;)
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: HUSSEIN on April 02, 2003, 08:42:51 PM
With all due respect why whine over spilled milk. The fact is our society is part of the world, as such what afflict the west will eventually rear  it`s  ugly head here.

So if at all you are disturbed, start making the changes from your humbles self, those you control and influence etc..Then your neighbourhood  and then the wider society.
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: Muhammad on April 02, 2003, 10:33:54 PM
Assalamu Alaikum
I am of the opinion that the on going deterioration of our culture, and it dilution with western ideals, is brought about by technology. Things that were complete unacceptable before now are part and parcel of the society.
Through TV, internet and other sources, youngstars of today have access to obscene song lyrics, Nigger's dressing methods and what have you. And because, we are a free nation- often misused, people, most of them teenagers, feel no guilt in doing unthinkable things.  
Another important perspective to this is actually beneficial, albeit dysfunctionally. One cannot deny that people today are richer than yesterday. This means living in a middle class neigbourhood, where everyone thinks of nothing but himself.
.................. to be continued.
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: ummita on April 02, 2003, 10:53:42 PM
Quoteoh my God,
i didnt mean prostitiution,
i mean gurls wearing clothes and at the sametime showing off thier bodies.
You think media doesnt have a great role to play in the development of minds?
I disagreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Why because even thou media duz brain-washes d minds of some human being..but that depends on thosen with weak hearts & again not true muslim sistas, not in Saudi...d women hardly even hav tym 2 watch TV tlkless of copycating Halle Berre in cropped party gowns!!!
& if women shud b sooooo corrupt I hardly fynd any true Arab sista xcept hausa women (who go there to trade on prostitution) so now it still cumz down 2 some northerners who r muslim who corrupt Islam.

& Hussein wat afflicts the west will head toward (northerners/hausaz) but that depends on indivduality....one has to let it happen before it bcomes a happenin event. Of course it is disturbin.......changes will rely soley & only those that have disobeyed d true words of Islam with regards 2 civilisation & modernisation. Control!!! puhleeeeez who wud listen?!!! Havent preachers, preached enuff but ppl still du wateva sinful acts. Is it not d words of Allah subhana wata'ala that controls every true believer in Islam.....? Then why has it not changed sum ppl? Bcuz they simply wud not listen.
Bck 2 Alee, u r not even in d wrong train station...but wrong bus station ::) ;).
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: Ibro2g on April 03, 2003, 01:15:53 AM
Quoteinfact the bigggggggggggg one I have seen alot of brothers and sistas in islam kuma they are hausas, fulanis,Kanuris & even babur that they dont even observe the five daily prayers. People will keep talking about corruption corruption but they forget to talk about individuality and the muslims that harms and give a bad reputation!!!(ALLAH YA SHIRYE MU GABA DAYA)

Nice post Ibro ;) ?

Wallahi hafcy this is so true, and from a lil bit of what hussein said, If we want to make things right, we have to correct our individual selves....divinely and physically, and collectively to our society and those underneath us.
Allah ya shirye mu gaba daya Ameen
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: al_hamza on April 03, 2003, 04:41:26 PM
oh ummita,
i dont feel surprised by you dis-agreeing
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: Blaqueen on April 03, 2003, 08:06:05 PM
hey hamza.. i was watching this movie in saudi.. and it had nudity and people gettin' their freak on...

tru.. u will not see prostitutes on the street in saudi.. that is because they do it undercover...

but as for Northern culture and Islam.. well yes, its fading and all.. but isnt that what was expected?..

there's a saying....Religion will be like a burning coal...many people will let go... and very few of the faithful will hold on

so... i guess.. its almost that time.. when... WE ALL RISE!.. and well.....the trumpet will soon be blown
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: al_hamza on April 03, 2003, 08:48:38 PM
i donot challenge you,
but its very hard to believe.
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: Blaqueen on April 03, 2003, 09:32:23 PM
wallahi tallahi, da gaske ne...
meeh, my aunt, and my sibs were SHOCKED!..
but hey, its life.. but i know in malaysia, such things are censored.. the international Saudi channel is the one that has restrictions.. but other channels there..pisssssh.. they got LBC, and other local channels that show wuteva!

but people.. i dont think we shld be quick to judge others..
juss because a female doesnt wear veil/head covering.. or cuz one wears tight clothes..
or juss cuz u hear this person goes clubbing.. or that person does this and that..
i dont think we shld discriminate them and act like they dont know the religion.

i used to be quick to diss people i see doing sumthing that will be frowned upon on... but, later in life, i got to know some people, and wow, who am i to tell them they aint muslims or dont know about Islam! ba wanda kai su yin ibada lol..but still.. it baffles meeh that they would act somehow, but then again they're so into the religion..
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: Ibro2g on April 04, 2003, 12:40:44 AM
Quotei donot challenge you,
but its very hard to believe.

But its a must believe...worse things happen that u dont even know of.I heard that Hausa/northern gurls go to Hajj specially for prostitution. The (some)arab men there cant control themselves, they even do it in the holly cities. Kadan daga masu dan kunya dat make a way for the gurls to jeddah, and do God knows whateva, and come back...wid good pay, what a buisness...worse yet, not only gurls do it, harda manyan matan aure. This is the biggest shame I feel we are facing. Wallahi my respect for those who make the hajj every yr reduced...I was heart broken.
There are so many articles of shame that our people bring about that we dont even know of. Allah ya shirye mu...Amin.
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: al_hamza on April 04, 2003, 12:11:16 PM
oh,
then certainly taliban werent wrong when they banned tv!
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: ummita on April 04, 2003, 12:49:33 PM
The talibans neva banned TV because of prostitution, rather they banned TV viewers watching CNN because of the false war propaganda it passes out.

The Talibans neva banned stations lyk Al_Jazeerah, Nickelodeon, cartoonetwork, MTV,.......infact if u say TV..It goes 4 both international & national channels...so NTA,CTV, & so on & henceforth is also banned by Talibans/.........puhleeeeeeez Ali Hamza!!!

I wud only agree if u say that Islam as a whole & on its own bans TV viewers from watching porn sites, nudity on TV or any violent programme that can & which can only affect the iman or brainwash the minds of a muslim.

Any station or programme that shows things of such kind,  Islam strictly condemns, forbids and disregards it. And of course it is not even banned by the Talibans but any TV programme which is bad, Islam regards it as the illegality of Islamicity and therefore no muslim shud watch!!!.........

Besides how on earth did u relate northern,hausa girls and married women who indulge theirselves in prostitution in Saudi to that of the Talibans banning TV.........Tell me how u did it :-/
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: Blaqueen on April 04, 2003, 04:46:38 PM
LoL!... abeg.. u cant force people to practice anything.. then they wouldnt be practicing out of their hearts... which is basically pointless... and its juss as bad.
banning tv? etc etc.. its juss useless..

now, lets not get off topic...

alhamza.. ur talking about people in the east/center copying the west.. well, if we had our own media that promoted wut we believe in.. then it wouldnt be a problem at all..
but instead we sit around and expect the west to do it all..

and the funny thing is.. i've met german, american, british muslims (the immoral side) who PRACTICE and BELIEVE in Islam a LOT MORE than nigerian and arab muslims (the role models?).

i think its because the west are attracted to Islam and they try to understand it..
but arabs and nigerians.. and others who's been in the game for a while are brought up as Muslims...
very few actually sit and contemplate what the religion is about.. its juss there, cuz they were born in Muslim homes. many read the Qur'an and dont bother to reflect on it...
so, even when some start to "kauche"... they dont know what they're getting themselves into.

amma, when i think of those practicing Muslims in naija... kai fashy, we know our religion..

in Sudan, if a person is practicing Islam properly (ibada), they say "wow, ur like a nigerian, masha Allah."... so at least that's good~!
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: ummita on April 04, 2003, 07:13:42 PM
 Aleeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Hamzaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Ok less go back to the prehistoric tyms, Lets take it back. Before civilisaiton, Before modernisation and even before modern technology ballentana media......(say) during the time of Prophet (S.A.W)

The prophet preached on gays and lesbians didnt he?
The prophet preached on prostitution didnt he?
The Prophet preached on those who drink & do drugs didnt he?
The Prophet preached on theft and robbery didnt he?
The Prophet preached on so many aspects of life didnt he?

If at all he did all these? Then were was modernisation, civilisation and EVEN media in those days? They played no major part or role in the lifes of muslims and they were NOT at all the reason why people engage theirselves in such acts, ballenta relating it to northerners/hausas. This evil doings that our hausa/northerners tend to be doing its not media to be blamed but who? The ppl of course?!!!!! Even Shaytan cant be blamed for these acts but the ppl who feel for his ways.

So Alee, in a sense r u trying to say, its ok 4 hausa/northerners to take to wrong path as long as its media that influenced hausa/northers & craved its dirtiness in their hearts? And if they end up in the wrong path then its ok!!! why because  its not their fault!! Its media, its modernisation, its civilisation!!!

Its high time ya'all stop blaming media, modernisation or civilisaiotn...Even during the medivial times ppl were not affected by these changes..........
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: kamal on April 04, 2003, 08:32:22 PM
the fall of islamic practises among hausa people is a fact.About the question of islam and modernity.Why in saudi Arabia women are not allowed to drive a car? Is it normal if muslims say that men and women have the same rights?
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: al_hamza on April 06, 2003, 01:21:36 PM
Lailaha'illahu,
pls people stay clear of ummita's fatwas,
they are too dangerous.
ummita.... we have to face Allah(S.W.T) on the day of judgement. Pls i ask you in HIS name to quit giving false news.

1)i study 400kms away from the afghan border,

2)there are over 2 million afghan refugees in this country.

3)i have two friends that have served with Taliban, one of them has even achieved matyredom in kashmir.

and you come to tell me, as if accusing me of lying, that in afghanistan, taliban didnt ban tv. MTV, Nicholodeon? Axtaghfurallahul azeem!

Ummita fear Allah!
hell fire is very dangerous!

.
lets come again.
do you think that tv hasnt affected our people?
really?
really?

just to show me down..... how far will you escape from the ground reality?


kai innalillahi ummita, am highly surprised how far you can go to proove "am brilliant he's stupid".

when i was young, my agemates enjoyed talking of sex,cars, films and girls. I enjoyed knowing more about my religion and how it affected this world and us in general.
am not saying i was an angel cos i too was a severe headache to many many people.

if you want to go around laying false claims, you'll find me as a thorn on each path you take, as far as its regarding my religion.

Yes TV is bad.
but thats if you use it for wrong purposes.
taliban banned it cos it didnt trust its people.
period plus its a propaganda machine.

if an imam comes on tv and talks of addeeni then its good.
but if your watching half naked men and women on tv, then i hope you'll agree that its wrong (according to Islam)


i have heard, i havent witnessed it so far that NTA now plays sex-oriented movies, pls i sit more than 4000km away from my home. can you tell me if its true?
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: Blaqueen on April 06, 2003, 06:10:16 PM
chill people... television can be monitored.. digital advantage!!! hullo?
we all know wut is wrong.. we know wut is right!.. so chillax!!

oh by tha way... i thot taliban banned tv.. for same reason communist govts ban tv...
cuz if all the stories coming from taliban are false.. why didnt the talbs do something to defend their name? and if its all false, no Islamic Organization went their to clarify the reality of the situation there? so cant blame anyone if there IS mis-information

we can use MEDIA to benefit us.. but if we're too lazy and sit around.... evil will overtake...
and how many of u even go out and buy islamic cartoons? and islamic movies? and other islamic based media items?...
there are luts of Islamic shops to visit and buy such things!

meeh sef wanna do something "theater", "movie", wuteva about islam and our culture...
it high time i get the current hausa movie makers OUT OF BIDNESS!!!!!. >:(.. i'm taking over!  >:(

ayya..hamzito.. so na so u dey see life... sannu ko
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: ummita on April 06, 2003, 10:45:53 PM
QuoteLailaha'illahu,
pls people stay clear of ummita's fatwas,
they are too dangerous.
ummita.... we have to face Allah(S.W.T) on the day of judgement. Pls i ask you in HIS name to quit giving false news.

Of course we hav 2 face Allah..but u know wat I juss luv d way u keep twistin on issues. Now u tell me which news did I bring that was false?.....Oh...err did I mention Taliban banned TV cuz of prostitution :-/ Nah mayb not!!! Probably Alee did....Oh yes! he did

I neva said u was lyin...I neva tell ppl they lie..rather if I disagree..I disagree....open ur eyes & red this carefully.......Ummita was ONLY denyin d fact that Ali Hamza said Talibans banned TV because of prostitution & again the only thing I asked u was...how did u cum about 2 relate hausa/northers prostitution with that of taliban & banning TV? Thats d only ansa I wanted from u

QuoteUmmita fear Allah!
hell fire is very dangerous!
lets come again.
do you think that tv hasnt affected our people?
really?
really?
just to show me down..... how far will you escape from the ground reality?
kai innalillahi ummita, am highly surprised how far you can go to proove "am brilliant he's stupid".
if you want to go around laying false claims, you'll find me as a thorn on each path you take, as far as its regarding my religion.
Yes TV is bad.
but thats if you use it for wrong purposes.
taliban banned it cos it didnt trust its people.
period plus its a propaganda machine.
if an imam comes on tv and talks of addeeni then its good.
but if your watching half naked men and women on tv, then i hope you'll agree that its wrong (according to Islam)
i have heard, i havent witnessed it so far that NTA now plays sex-oriented movies, pls i sit more than 4000km away from my home. can you tell me if its true?

Shush.....! Alee Hamza, kai (she laffs) U can twist, misinterpretate & u sooo look 4 meaningless clues.....Now anyways makin noise is an effective means opposition, so I no blame u ;) Of course I hav read & heard about hell fire.....but heck u & I r no close there..so wats d point!!!

Quote.
lets come again.
do you think that tv hasnt affected our people?
really?
really?


kai innalillahi ummita, am highly surprised how far you can go to proove "am brilliant he's stupid".

if you want to go around laying false claims, you'll find me as a thorn on each path you take, as far as its regarding my religion.

Yes TV is bad.
but thats if you use it for wrong purposes.
taliban banned it cos it didnt trust its people.
period plus its a propaganda machine.

if an imam comes on tv and talks of addeeni then its good.
but if your watching half naked men and women on tv, then i hope you'll agree that its wrong (according to Islam)


i have heard, i havent witnessed it so far that NTA now plays sex-oriented movies, pls i sit more than 4000km away from my home. can you tell me if its true?

I hav neva heard that Talibans banned TV cuz of northern/hausa prostitution.....which is d main issue we was discussion about b/4 u diversed it 2 sumwhere I not know of.....
U tkled about how Tv played a major role is destroyin women & puttin them on prostitution & I said 2 u even b/4 modernisation, civilisation & d media that u r sooooooooo concerned of!!! b/4 these all existed........women still engage in prostitution...there were prostitutes THEN!!

During d tyms of d prophet dont women engage in prostitution?...if yes!!! then media is not they main key tool that puts d minds of women in such an act.....rather they themselves that subjected in2 d act @ their own free will............

so Aleee am not arguin am juss tellin u.........I wont blame media & I dont blame media because of women prostitution.....cum off it.....(havent u heard of peer pressure!!!). Isnt that quite more reasonable & just 2 blame women 4 prostitution? Sometyms bck...some gurls cudnt even afford no Tv..but they were karuwai.......Is it media Alee?

Hey! all that is happenin homosexuality,lesbinism,theft, drugs & alcohol........amongst hausa/northerners...all these ppl took upon to...b/4 our great grandys were even born.........& that meand during d prehistoric tyms so...........d only thing I can say is media duz influence ppl......but not on things that hav long existed since decennial yrs!!!!!!

Lemme recap u on these.........this topic speaks of bad behaviors that nothern/hausaz took upon that is not sum'en the real hausa had b/4!!! which is wipin away d reality of Islamictiy.......There r better & gud reasons why this is so.........not MEDIA. And plzzzzzz stop diversin topic...always get on d right track...kaga abun da ina fedar maka..cewa u r atyms right but followed by wrong & u made a mockery out of it......now look wat u've all written which duz not even relate 2 wat I was rantiiiiiiiiiin about.  
4 THIS TOPIC FULL STOPPPP & Alee dont make me wryt again
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: al_hamza on April 06, 2003, 11:16:50 PM
i never mentioned the word prostitiution,
you dont believe in the day of judgement,
its better to talk to someone with little knowledge but more respect for religion than to talk to you.

when in Allah's name did i utter the word prostitiution.

I hereby Raise my Hand to Swear in Allah's name that if you dont take back your words i'll personally ask for judgement on the day of Al-kiyamah!

to proove you are right you put words into my mouth?
surely i wont even spit on your face if i had the chance!
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: ummita on April 06, 2003, 11:29:27 PM
Now hold up boi, this is juss a thread line in a forum..it seemz u kinda takin things 2 d xtremez. U neva did (u surely gimme laffs) go bck & read ur post......

& oh by d way.........any right sensible thinkin person duznt think one is fast superior wen it cumz down 2 religion. Now I say there is sum'en really worryin u........menene wai u will raise ur hands & swear...oh well Tuff!!!! God.......Alee this is a forum 4 fake sakes!!! Ma faith & religion: I keep close d d heart........persuadin sum1 2 belive in sumen ai ba hauka bane...I disagree abotu d whole media issue...I did....& theres wat I did.......D only reason I replied ur post......iz juss 2 inform u that....man this is juss a thread.......so kalm down......she laffs..hez gat sum serious issues.......Brova I mean no harm.....so take a breather & kalm down......wai he will raise his hands...she laffs....am outta here
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: ummita on April 06, 2003, 11:35:12 PM
Quote.

I hereby Raise my Hand to Swear in Allah's name that if you dont take back your words i'll personally ask for judgement on the day of Al-kiyamah!

to proove you are right you put words into my mouth?
surely i wont even spit on your face if i had the chance!
Now juss look at this.......& yet ppl claim they gat knowledge & respect 4 Islam.....wen all that cumz from there mouth is that!!! Well things lyk that dont bother me......Alee u need help (she laffs) nah honestly u du..juss sit 7 think wats d point of all these wrodings........4 surely I will not say such thing on u....bcuz it aint worth  it[/color]
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: al_hamza on April 06, 2003, 11:52:18 PM
i'll go through mental therapy, i promise if you'll show me the place where i said that tv causes prostitiution.

you dont believe tv is a bad influence huh?
tv is something to talk of later,
talk of this thing called internet.

children locked at home by good families can get spoilt by just using this thing.
imagine, check your hotmail and signout
the next thing you know is msn.com offering you ten good examples of making your sexual life better.
isnt this a form of media?

who can control his/her heart?
we are ordinary humans
as a famous poet said "niether am i Moses nor am I Pharoh"
b4 you make something else out of it,
this statement means niether am  i am an extremely pious one nor am i a big sinner.

i have had friends that went on weed cos they tought "its a way of prooving machoness" and they belonged to good families.......

where do things go wrong?

i repeat.... qoute the place where i said tv causes prostitiution and i'll take back my words publicly.....
otherwise i'll stand my grounds i have done nothing but
re-acted, maybe in too strong a manner but you are the root cause.
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: ummita on April 07, 2003, 12:01:07 AM
Quotei repeat.... qoute the place where i said tv causes prostitiution and i'll take back my words publicly.....
otherwise i'll stand my grounds i have done nothing but
re-acted, maybe in too strong a manner but you are the root cause.
Since u hav enuff tym......juss go bck read up all of em......well Tuff! Alee......u can stand on eni grounds...I neva said u shudnt....Root cause!!......well actually I neva said u shudnt say wateva..idan kaga dama climb d  highest mountains above...& rain d heaviest bad wordings....I didnt say u shudnt..u can go on.....stand on any grounds....ben hana ka ba.......I wasnt hurt by wat u said...so root cause is no reason. Y bcus I dont kiya.(...hmmm) Yeah u shud definately go (4 that mental therepary u said)............I juss had 2 put those in brackets kafin kuma kace nacemaka mahaukai. U go fit kill pessin ::)
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: al_hamza on April 07, 2003, 12:19:07 AM
qoute the place ummita.......
please,
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: ummita on April 07, 2003, 12:26:55 AM
& this tym, I bet my small oga and mama..na them u go take insult...nagaji.........oya clap 4 urself u won..wen it cums 2 addini u r d best!!! shikenan...& truss me every1 inclusive me is bored of d rantin u & I were on about....so go ahead raise ur hand...wat was it u said u was gon du? Alkiyam ko!!!. I no get tym.........if there is anyplace u said & certainly talibans were not wrong wen they banned tvnow that speak it all...........this tym na curse u go take curse me!!! mhmm wallahi na gaji......jeka kayi kai kadai
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: Blaqueen on April 07, 2003, 11:09:24 AM
God said do NOT over burdern urself with anything...
take the moderate stream... not anything that will bring u wahala
duk abin da ya fi muku sauki.. ku bi hanyan. Islam is a very simple religion!

"The Prophet said:'Religion is very easy and whoever overburdens himself in his religion will not be able to continue in that way. So you should not be extremists, but to try to be near to perfection and receive the good tidings that you will be rewarded; and gain strength by offering the prayers in the mornings, afternoons and during the last hours of the nights.' " [/b]

;D
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: Twinkle on April 07, 2003, 12:38:16 PM
Haba Ali Hamza abun bayi zafi haka ba. All she was trying to say is that she does not agree that media does influence karuwanci, shine tace maka tun kafin media tazo wasu matan karuwai ne, kai kuma a wani post din da Ibro yake bayane kan matan hausa dake zuwa Saudi doing prostitution you replied him statin so indeed the talibans were not wrong when they banned Tv. So obviously ko nima da na karanta that post shows that talibans banned tv because of prostitution. Infact I personally read the whole thread but what you had was not nice, anyways  she handled it well tace maka this is just a forum kuma ita baza ta cemaka haka ba. Well I believe everyone has a right to say. Idan taki yadda a basrshi haka idan kai kaki yadda a barshi haka. I just had to reply to this post because of that swearing thing you were up about! Haba!To ni dai Allah ya shirye mu gaba daya
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: al_hamza on April 07, 2003, 09:29:31 PM
the defination of extremism i have so far got is what the west have in opinion.

as one member of kanoonline said....
"these youngsters just want to bridge Islam with the west so leave them alone"
though i wouldnt have want to but i do see a reasoning in what he says.
Insha'Allah i'll try my best to get less involved with religion next time.
Amin

May Allah Bless us all
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: Ibro2g on April 20, 2003, 02:30:04 AM
Quoteas one member of kanoonline said....
"these youngsters just want to bridge Islam with the west so leave them alone"
though i wouldnt have want to but i do see a reasoning in what he says.


I am disappointed. You should share and correct where possible not accuse and denote. I dont even want to say more.
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: lionger on April 20, 2003, 10:35:48 PM
gee..how did this thread degenerate into this? al hamza, na real wa for you o. what was that u pronounced on ummita? ?i think you should apologise to the lady quick-quick, and read ?dyme queen's most recent post. i concur with her last three posts, so saying anything else would be repetition.
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: ummita on April 22, 2003, 04:12:02 AM
 Nah........ iz orite..........no need 4 apologies..........am kool........she laffs.

I juss think he needs 2 chill a bit wen it cumz down 2 religon cuz eni1 & every1 kan hav a say.........
Title: Re: The new Hausa era.
Post by: kilishi on August 15, 2003, 03:22:24 PM
Isnt it true that  
QuoteGone were the days when the words of the Hausas are trusted?  
Gone were the days when our daughters had their prides & were pious & clean?  
Gone were the days when our neighbourhood was brotherhood?  
Maybe Gone is half the real Islamic north, the uncorrupted north, and the peaceful north in this Islamic era. Maybe it has become something I can say now say prehistoric story in history!!!?

This problem is everywhere,what i think is karshen duniya ne tazo,Allah ya bamu da sauki :'( :'(