Aiight two dayz ago, was in nija,,and i spent a week there, and i went to eight towns, villages and cities all together,,,and as i pass by many rural areas...especially on the way to Kano-Borno.....i see that thers's electricity and water and all..... improvement....
but everything is moving soooo slow........soooo many unfinished projects....where i reside....isnt half as blessed in terms of natural resources and good land as nigeria is....but u cant even compare here and nija.....the difference is embarassingly just too much...
The main problem na Nija is the lootin' thats going on!
For example....out of $10 a nigerian will loot $8 or $9 and work with $1 or $2.... buying fake materials n all.... sometimes they loot the whole thang and leave projects unfinished.....
I visited a school in my Village...a primary skool..... and i taught a class Maths......man those young kids were soooooo intellignet.....so bright... but 1/3 of the class were sittin on the cold floor. The only bench they have is missing a leg, and yet they still sit on it! the black board was just chopped off!!!
Man these are like kids, the future of nija that are learning under these unbearable conditions!!! 80 students in just one tiny class!!!! haba! what are the " " responsible for these doing!!! Man the kids were so innocent, so lovely so pure and lively.... that day, i vowed to stay dedicated to my local community, especially anything concerning little children!!!!
Amma Allah ya sawake kawai!
Gud! Gud! Gud
Well 4eva Nija will b critised..its either we have 2 much or too little of everything....ok Ful........ous. U r absolutley ryt no doubt. I still get ur point. I know how sad it cud b......
But lemme digress things a lil bit 'ere & highlight mamasita..............Ok u didnt actually point out ur fingers on whueva........but I TAKE IT ..ITS D GOVT RTY? :-/ (She signs) when will ppl juss stop blamin d govt.
Let me ova analyse d situation 'ere........takin 4 instaces skool kids without desk: & where u stated one had just one leg stand...........Who broke it? No teacher will juss come in grab a chair & delibrately break it......(how mental is that)? Who broke it? !!!!!! Students of course. U will see major projectasy's done by govt...supplying free note books 2 kids,....wat du u have @ d end....paper aeroplanes, chalk provided by govt...wat du u have @ d end...drawings... tables & chairs.....well bringin manner in2 consideration......none wud pull out a sit gently & sit down properly..some kids got their leg on d chair & body on table...tables..mhmm d gurls use it 4 table dancin or drummin..Yet u blame govt!!!!!!
Ok I dunno a zilch....about whether we gain or lack resources these days.... ok......4 fake products it happens everywhere not Nija only...tell me about fake designer bags.....comin from places like Italy....so that happens everywhere..in a way its their own way of makin a livin.
Electricity......if we pay all tax & standard charges for bill xcetra obviously things wud b diff. Yeah we r being deprived of electricity........but lets include ourselves in sheer neglect when we dont pay bills ...how we gon get frequent electricity huh?
IF D GOVT SHUD GO WRONG IN ANYTHING....WE D CITIZENS GO RYT AFTER THEM!!!
Kwarai da gaske maganarki tabbas. Ni aganina gwannati suna aiki sosai. Aman duk dai kowa da over looking facts din that they have trully helped out. Amman dai, har ila yau basu kokaratan ba sosai. Me gwannatin mu suka yi don kara investment na kasa. Sai dai kuji ana wane kaza yani donation na million kaza wanda a karshe ke shiga aljuhun wane kaza ba?
We lack resources, ance muna da mai, in banda crisis din petrol ni banga wani major finance ya yake kawowa ba wajen taimakawa kasar nigeria.
I dont think development is the problem of Nigeria. but who are the developers and how can we develop Nigeria?
Salam....
Um.......ita ?, yes the kids broke the bench.. but how long was the bench broken? ?? in ?whatever case, the bench HAS to be replaced! the board is chopped off..why, coz it has been there for a madd long time....no maintenance...
I talked to a teacher in that skool....she complained that they dont get enough $$$$$ from the government to fix up all these things....and u blame the kids for the skool being all messed up? ? gurl puh-leaz!
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in ma government ya ba kudin maintenance, ana eating insu before the money reaches its destination!!! along the chain, the money reduces...har when the money is like almost nothing,sai yayi reaching inda kamata.
honey,yes ana fake stuffs everywhere,,,amma na nija is worse... yadda or not... for example, other places zaa samu like 25-35% fake stuff... amma in nija u'd find 55-69% fake stuff.....
look.... some business peeps came here from nija not long ago...not mentioning names.... they wanted a particular product here... so they went around looking for the cheapest quality of that particular product. And they purchased the product that was used for animals...and wanted to take it back to nija just so that they could make a HUGE profit....
and those peeps were so able to buy the good quality products, but still didnt want to...... Allah ya kiyaye....
Husna...gov suna aiki ko? pls list down HOW many things aka yi so far....
Where I am, I can list down hundreds upon hundreds of things the gov did within one year and yet they are not half as rich as Nija is....
I went to Burkina Faso for hols....claimed to be the 3rd poorest counrty in the world......but it is soooo much ORGANIZED than nija...
Ana aiki a nija, i noticed improvements when i was there, but still.....the difference aint as it should be. We got the resources, we got da man power, we got da brain power, we got da dough, we got everything... amma babu gaskiya, babu organization.....
any wayz don wanna get into this too much....but its bout time we wake up!
I cant understand how we can say the ills of Naij today are not as a result of poor economic policies and poor governance!!
Simple - compare the Buhari and IBB administrations. They were 2 different governments with two different plans for Naij. The people have their share of blame as well but, know that change should come from the top, down, it is very catastropic when it goes from the bottom, up.
As long as Generals in Uniform or Agbada rules Nigeria we would always be backward.
Buhari would be the worst president for Nigeria, he would create fraction and ethnic riots, why aren't any northern Nigerian supporting Balarabe Musa a principle man.
God Bless Nigeria
The main problem in Nigeria is overpopulation there are just to many people and we are still breeding like rats, who would feed these children not the oil money it too small to sustain 150 million
Military rule wuz a lot mo' betta!
i know some will say, "i'm mad"... but i hear that all the time 8)... but really, during military rule economy was better and security was stable....
democracy... hmmm... very very very slow progress for nigeria....
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Buhari would be the worst president for Nigeria, he would create fraction and ethnic riots, why aren't any northern Nigerian supporting Balarabe Musa a principle man.
yorubaman though i appreciate ure concern but c'mon thiz not tha issue at stake
Thank uuuuuuuuuu Maleeq d instigator.........gud that u pinpointed this. Yoruba_Man this thread is not about Buhari........ Fulanicious had su'in up there 2 du with development. How can we move 4ward? How can we improve? How can we avoid major lay bck? & so on..........I don brk it down 4 simple grasp ;)
Wallah kuwa
Probably my fault for mentioning Buhari's name in the first place.... i find it easier to get points accross by giving examples.
Now how to fix mother naij is the million $ Q.
First i think we need to device our own method of governance, one that is synonymous with our collective cultures.
The working middle class needs to realize they are the ones that can trully make a difference, they are the ones that can keep a check on the leaders that rule as well as interface seamlessly with the masses. The illiterate villager and poor will sell their votes for a 'buck' any day any time while the leaders up there are blinded by power. So the middle class are the only ones with enough sanity to make the right choices.
There are loads more that will need to be done, but i will stop here for now.
When I read articles about how to improve Nigeria I'm pleased because it shows that we care about our nation. Many of these writers oftern refer to other countries state of development as an example of how we should be. Nigeria is a complex society and requires specifically adapted methods to improve her.
We need strong and effective leadership. Leaders who can inspire our people to look beyond the immediate benefits. Leaders who are not affraid to set long term attainable goals which are recognised by our people as imperative.
new leadership, plain and simple. and when i say that, i mean at the local, state and certainly the federal level. Until we have a new set of leaders, corruption will remain and nothing will change in nigeria. as someone here mentioned, burkina faso, a landlocked country with few resources is still much more organized than nigeria. why? bad management!
FDQ said times were better under military dictatorships, and that democracy does not work in nigeria. she does have a point on democrazy in nigeria, but frankly anyone who remembers the Abacha years would surely not want to go back to that again. military dictatorship in nigeria is also another grand stage for corruption. Things have been getting worse and worse ever since the oil boom of the 70s; it's not exactly the fault of democracy. That said, murtala mohammed is in my opinion, the best 'leader' nigeria has ever had.
unfortunately many of the brilliant, intelligent people who can turn things round in naija have left the country (brain drain) for greener pastures. i've been lucky to have seen a good deal of the world in my short life and yet in all the countries i've lived in; i've always met nigerians; in fact, ppl who speak my native tongue! and i'm not talking about embassy folk. its ironic; nigeria's mess has driven them away, yet these ppl are sorely needed to turn things around. how do we stop this?:-[
btw.....i wouldnt vote for Buhari.... ::)
ok lion... now u make meeh wanna research on murtala moh'd... 8)
nwayz... development is slow in naija... drastically slow.. cuz MOST of our "leaders" juss want high positions and are greedy... its the "name" that they care about.. they juss take seat and enrich themselves.....always thinkin' about themselves... :-/
i like obasanjo... and the reason why people dont like him.. is because he made it hard for some of the greedy people in the gov't to loot....
thats why they were tryin to impeach him and find some kinda fault... he's a good man.. and maybe he has good intentions...
we shouldnt always blame the president... its the people around him... the greedy ones...
plus.. the citizens are not making it easier... everyone has some kinda fault...
nigerians need a dictator... simply because they dunno how to use democracy... we're too strong headed!
why i like the military rule?. b'cuz security was better... economy a lot better off... all the useless riots that took place would NEVER have taken place... and greedy politicians wouldnt use shariah to gain people's vote...
sha, Allah ya kare... we might as welll keep movin' on... i juss cant wait for the older generation to LEAVE! and BIZOUNCE outta the govt!!!!! we need new fresh minds! 8)
hi FDQ
Who are the 'greedy ones' surrounding Obasanjo? As for your statements on riots never happening under military govts, obviously u never heard of the bloody kafanchan riots under IBB's tenure, or even more recently, the 1993 riots in Lagos after IBB annuled the june 12 elections. I was living in Ebute Metta, near Third Mainland Bridge at the time, and there was serious pandemonium on the streets. Infact, ppl were scared that another civil war was about to start.
Nigerians do not need a dictator; haven't we over-experimented on this one? Haven't our eyes been opened by the IBB/Abacha saga? It will not work for the same reason democracy has not worked : corruption. We should stop hailing dictators as saviors; this is how ppl will vote IBB or Abacha (were he alive) back into power!
u ppl av to be proud of the motherland Nigeria. Nigeria is the only country that exports hardcore criminals ::)..which country in this wide earth can beat that??? well i am sure proud :D...arent u?
hey lion...
i'm talkin bout the ministers... the ed's.. the md's... etc etc... people at the top... eating away money.. caring less about those at the bottom of the pyramid... shamelessly stashing away...etc etc... but ofcourse.. that's some of them.. not all... but those "some" are causing damage...
and as riots, i remember those u mentioned... but u gotta agree with meeh...the ones in KD and Jos were VERY very POINTLESS! waste of energy... people thinkin' "i sabi this, i sabi that, democracy, i sabi i sabi"... oya, let's protest, lets damage, lets go crazy.... maaaan if it were them ibb and abacha... hehe. no one would DARE do that... sha, thats whut i reckon...
but... i could care less whut kinda system governs me... i prefer to juss be tolerant, patient, and prayers are very effective.. ;D i'm juss happy wit' life sef... cuz i dont drown myself in misery...and dont bother myself with hatred...! cuz then i'd get wrinkles at a very tender age... ::)
FDQ
yea you do have a point on Obasanjo's henchmen; even the National Assembly is filled with soulless fatcats. Corruption is a very big problem in Nigeria, it seems like an almost insurmountible mountain :-[.
I also agree with you on the fact that most of the riots we have seen in Obasanjo's time probably would not have taken place under IBB or Abacha. But why? I think its partly because most of the religious tension in the last 4 years have been sparked in some way by by the advent of Sharia, which no-one would have dared introduce under IBB or Abacha.
The problem with Nija is simply leadership. Our leaders are extremely selfish they are only thinking of themselves and children. For instance in a place like Kano where 50 to 60% of the population are not accessible to water you'll find the houses of the high ranking civil servants and politicians with boreholes etc, this will therefore not allow them to think of the common man. Their children attend private schools and therefore they are not aware when teachers are on strike or when the are no chairs and desks etc.
We need new crop of leaders who are selfless, it is selfishness that is causing all the economic mismanagemet, corruption, indiscipline, etc coupled with lack of enforcement of laws. Recently the anti corruption commission was created and a lot of cases were taken to them including some against the speaker, the senate president, some senators and honourable members and they are still in investigation statges or the matter has gone to dbins. Honestly i dont see the relevance of the so called Anti corruption commission. Even wihout the creation of anti corruption commision there are enough laws to take care of corrupt practices of public office holders but nobody is applying them.
Lets look further into the type of leaders this country needs. Certainly opposite to what some of our past leaders are selfish like Abacha, shifty and tricky like IBB or planless like Gowon. We need new courageous set of intelligent leaders who can take us to the promised land. Courageous enough to dare and try anybody that break the law, intelligent enough to bring us out of the woods. A pityful leader but assertive and honest, religious, not promiscous, not sectional, etc.
Please if you qualify come forward lets plan how to make you our chairman/governor/lagislator/president etc come 2007. Lets throw these recycled leaders out.
QuoteThe problem with Nija is simply leadership. Our leaders are extremely selfish they are only thinking of themselves and children. For instance in a place like Kano where 50 to 60% of the population are not accessible to water you'll find the houses of the high ranking civil servants and politicians with boreholes etc, this will therefore not allow them to think of the common man. Their children attend private schools and therefore they are not aware when teachers are on strike or when the are no chairs and desks etc.
We need new crop of leaders who are selfless, it is selfishness that is causing all the economic mismanagemet, corruption, indiscipline, etc coupled with lack of enforcement of laws. Recently the anti corruption commission was created and a lot of cases were taken to them including some against the speaker, the senate president, some senators and honourable members and they are still in investigation ?statges or the matter has gone to dbins. Honestly i dont see the relevance of the so called Anti corruption commission. Even wihout the creation of anti corruption commision there are enough laws to take care of corrupt practices of public office holders but nobody is applying them.
Lets look further into the type of leaders this country needs. Certainly opposite to what some of our past leaders are selfish like Abacha, shifty and tricky like IBB or planless like Gowon. We need new courageous set of intelligent leaders who can take us to the promised land. Courageous enough to dare and try anybody that break the law, intelligent enough to bring us out of the woods. A pityful leader but assertive and honest, religious, not promiscous, not sectional, etc.
Please if you qualify come forward lets plan how to make you our chairman/governor/lagislator/president etc come 2007. Lets throw these recycled leaders out.
Abu I like your point. Gowon was planless if he had started investing all that petrol dollars in improving the rail systems and LNG and petrol chemical plant we would not be in this mess. But lets not forget that the two civilian government of OBJ and Shagari have foresight but are just to corrupts and incopentent.
As well as blaming the leader what about the people Nigeria sgenerate wealth of $15-20 billion p/a for a population 150 million why South Africa spend $45 billon according to the present budget.
We as Nigerian must learn to be more creative and productive in creating wealth at least $100 billion p/a, this would enable any new leader to embark on development policies
Quotebtw.....i wouldnt vote for Buhari.... ::)
ok lion... now u make meeh wanna research on murtala moh'd... 8)
nwayz... development is slow in naija... drastically slow.. cuz MOST of our "leaders" juss want high positions and are greedy... its the "name" that they care about.. they juss take seat and enrich themselves.....always thinkin' about themselves... :-/
i like obasanjo... and the reason why people dont like him.. is because he made it hard for some of the greedy people in the gov't to loot....
thats why they were tryin to impeach him and find some kinda fault... he's a good man.. and maybe he has good intentions...
we shouldnt always blame the president... its the people around him... the greedy ones...
plus.. the citizens are not making it easier... everyone has some kinda fault...
nigerians need a dictator... simply because they dunno how to use democracy... we're too strong headed!
why i like the military rule?. b'cuz security was better... economy a lot better off... all the useless riots that took place would NEVER have taken place... and greedy politicians wouldnt use shariah to gain people's vote...
sha, Allah ya kare... we might as welll keep movin' on... i juss cant wait for the older generation to LEAVE! and BIZOUNCE outta the govt!!!!! we need new fresh minds! 8)
Perhaps you are not in Nigeria but from the abacha era in the number of people involvedsister I swear to God I live in Abuja and I work where I can know something about the looters to be very honest with you is alot easier to chop now than during the military. May be you read alot of Nigerian Newspapers and Magazines which are as corrupt as anyother place. It is business as usual perhaps you have not read the AUDITOR GENERALS REPORT the man OBJ removed because of the report. in fact the looting is only different in the number of people involved. Whereas in the Abacha era it was exclusive to the first family and perhaps close associates now it has been spread around and settlement is very well active as if the maradona is there himself. Although a friend close to the president told me that if he is to be investigated today he will go free is not the case for alot of his lieutenants including the mighty VP
Cant help but to agree with you sulaimon everyone is guilty
MHMMMM Su yallabai Uncle AbuMujaheed wajen political issues akwai zakewa, hmmmmmmm da ance OBJ ko IBB ko Buhari naso Uncle Abu go dey write so tey my head go dey begin spin...........ko dayake I dont blame you, dama duk yan shekara 30 kaza 30 something haka kuke............hmmm ni ma dai ratan shekaruna da naka kadan ne, but don Allah a dinga assimilating issue, you people talk toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo serious, idan anyi pointing issue akan dan bari irin mu muyi grapsing a kwakwalma, kafin ku sake shooting dinmu da wasu points din. I sooooooooo hate political issues so I wont say nothing, but I will pick on people. But hey!! kuna bayani mai kyau
I'm a hundred percent wid fulanicious...If I type nijas problems, kano online wount have enough disk space for tomorow.
I better get outta here
Quotehmmm ni ma dai ratan shekaruna da naka kadan ne
Wai ba caki kayi mun kin yi espaya ba?
that then this now....bye bye later