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Title: Babangida's Son arrested
Post by: dan mama on August 12, 2006, 06:55:27 PM
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Title: Babangida's Son arrested
Post by: Muhsin on August 13, 2006, 12:26:43 PM
Hurray! EFCC-Atauna Tsakuwa don Aya taji tsori.
IBB! Abinda ka shuka, shi zaka girba.
Title: Babangida's Son arrested
Post by: hikma on August 14, 2006, 03:18:47 PM
in life, its always easy 4 pple 2 c d wrongs as purported 2 have been perpetrated by others. often whatever views, insinuations nd allegations we harbour, dont turn out 2 b true. however i am not sayin dat pple shouldnt b entitle 2 their opinions. but only dat as we seemingly appear 2 b opionated, we should do so, always, in gud faith nd objectively. possibly i may not b wrong 2 say as a muslim, which i believe u`re, u just dont try or strive 2 put a jinx on somebody 2 d extent of usin d words u used in ur submission. it would have been better if u had kept quiet 4 lack of words of symphathy. i am not sayin ur views are an utter falsehood, bt just tot i remind u of d richness nd knowledge in keepin quiet and bein a gud listener wen u hv little or nothin 2 offer 2 alleviate d misfortunes of other pple. atleast, a simple INNALILLAHI WAINNA`ILLAIHIN RAJU`UN, would have been, 2 my mind, ok!
Title: Babangida's Son arrested
Post by: neozizo on August 14, 2006, 05:31:16 PM
I believe Nuhu Ribadu is a very brave man.i hope he knows what he is doing.
Title: Babangida's Son arrested
Post by: amira on August 14, 2006, 08:52:38 PM
nuhu ribadu knows what he's doing, mohammed is an human being like us all,
so whats the big deal in him being investigated???? its not like he was the first, ribadu is just doing his job.
Title: Babangida's Son arrested
Post by: HUSNAA on August 16, 2006, 07:00:13 PM
Quote from: "hikma"in life, its always easy 4 pple 2 c d wrongs as purported 2 have been perpetrated by others. often whatever views, insinuations nd allegations we harbour, dont turn out 2 b true. however i am not sayin dat pple shouldnt b entitle 2 their opinions. but only dat as we seemingly appear 2 b opionated, we should do so, always, in gud faith nd objectively. possibly i may not b wrong 2 say as a muslim, which i believe u`re, u just dont try or strive 2 put a jinx on somebody 2 d extent of usin d words u used in ur submission. it would have been better if u had kept quiet 4 lack of words of symphathy. i am not sayin ur views are an utter falsehood, bt just tot i remind u of d richness nd knowledge in keepin quiet and bein a gud listener wen u hv little or nothin 2 offer 2 alleviate d misfortunes of other pple. atleast, a simple INNALILLAHI WAINNA`ILLAIHIN RAJU`UN, would have been, 2 my mind, ok!

True to sympathize with other ppl's misfortunes. However, its very hard to sympathize with a person who is intimately connected with Babangida, his father. IBB was responsible for the misery of millions of Nigerians, directly and indirectly. He robbed a whole generation of its potential future by skewering SAP down our windpipes, just so he could achieve his selfish objective of securing IMF loans that Nigerians vetoed against, and with which  he and his henchmen began to line their pockets before the advent of the first Saddam Hussein war 'Operation Desert Storm' at which the first Bush was at the helm of American affairs and which  precipitated the first crude oil windfall.
Some ppl have never recovered from his devious policies and quite a few  have had family heartaches thrown at them,  (the Vatsa family for example). It was during his regime that we had the infamous killings of ppl like Dele Giwa and that lady whose name I cant  remember, I think it was Grace or something like that. She was quite a well to do woman, who got into some intrigues connected with some drug allegations that were above her head and in the end cost her her life. There was that beautiful news reporter who was jailed and later died in prison. There were the countless arrests and inprisonment of other journalists. There was the Abiola fiasco, which originated with Babangida and later was catalytic in precipitating his demise. There was also the oil windfall which was totally squandered on ecomog and other things that can never be accounted for, except to say that never in the history of the Nigerian army was it so financially lucrative to be an army man. For example there was a general who died some ten yrs back or so, and his children were given over 100 million naira each as hors d'oeuvres before the main meal. How an army general could legitimately amass such vast sums is open to speculation of course.
It was also a time of nepotism, where you cant get employed unless ur father or brother or uncle was in cahoots with some high ranking officer or civil servant.
In all of the sufferings and heartaches of the Babangida years, his family has been unscathed, by either poverty, or hardships of any kind, so why should we sympathize with Mohammed, just because he is getting a little of the medicine that his father administered to an unwilling populace subjugated by threats and fear of unwarranted retribution should they cry out foul in newspapers? Besides its a legitimate thing to enquire where he got the money with which he was able to buy the shares in the telecommunications company. Afterall, I havent heard that he was into any kind of business that generates the sort of funds that should give him access to shares in such an organization.
We should sympathize with Mohammed Babangida, but I really cannot feel anything other than a feeling of 'you reap what you sow', and 'sins of the fathers visited upon the sons' and all that.
Title: Babangida's Son arrested
Post by: HUSNAA on August 16, 2006, 07:29:40 PM
PS and he (IBB) wants run for the civilian presidency. Wai Ma. Keep on dreaming. An shamu mun warke!! Kan mage kuma ya waye. Once bitten twice shy as the saying goes......
Title: Babangida's Son arrested
Post by: lionger on August 16, 2006, 09:54:19 PM
Good post HUSNAA. Personally I am in 'siddon-look' mode as far as this is concerned. Nothing has been decided yet. However I find hikma's post very odd and even more ironic, given his recent, heavily 'opinionated' post on the Israel/Lebanon thread. I guess both issues aren't the same. Anyways lets just see how this goes with the EFCC.
Title: Babangida's Son arrested
Post by: hikma on August 17, 2006, 12:27:41 PM
Quote from: "lionger"Good post HUSNAA. Personally I am in 'siddon-look' mode as far as this is concerned. Nothing has been decided yet. However I find hikma's post very odd and even more ironic, given his recent, heavily 'opinionated' post on the Israel/Lebanon thread. I guess both issues aren't the same. Anyways lets just see how this goes with the EFCC.


odd nd ironic, u said... i like dat. bt it simply waz a case of ``callin a spade a spade`` bt i believe its nt uncalled-for 2 ask questions wit a view 2 assertainin sources of d wealth of individuals in d same manner as i believe dat children shouldnt b crusified 4 d sins of their purveyors nd projenitors...
Title: Babangida's Son arrested
Post by: neozizo on August 22, 2006, 02:34:02 PM
Quote from: "hikma".....as i believe dat children shouldnt b crusified 4 d sins of their purveyors nd projenitors...
Moh'd Abacha n co shd have somethin to say bout this.
I have always thot it odd that the at the time Abacha kids where given such treatment,Mohd Babangida and indeed other 'first kids' where left untouched.
Title: Babangida's Son arrested
Post by: alhaji_aminu on August 23, 2006, 12:47:42 AM
Salam

I say it is about damn time that people of questionable wealth flaunting it senselessly while others wallow in excrutiating poverty are called to account. Of what use is EFCC if it only concentrates on petty criminals like councillors.

Come to think of it, if the chap is innocent then he has nothing to fear. Great people like Gani Fawehinmi, Mandela, Gandhi and co were all at some point in their distinguished lives, detained or imprisoned. So Mr Babangida should pin this arrest to his chest claiming it to be his democratic dividend.

On the other hand, I personally think M Babangida is guilty as hell even if the evidence I have is circumstancial. Could he for instance explain how he acquired the over =N= 2.5b shareholding he has in Intercity bank? For a person who has no known employment, it is hard to justify his stupendous wealth.

The sooner we start holding this monsters to account the better the chances of Nigeria becoming the great nation it undoubtedly is.

Done
Title: Babangida's Son arrested
Post by: HUSNAA on August 23, 2006, 07:18:26 AM
2.5 billion??????????????????????
Ko bill gates bai sami irin kudin nan ba lokacin da ya ke shekarun mohd babangida. kuma mun san da gumin sa shi bill gates din ya sami kudaden sa.
Allah Ya isa.

Dalilin da yasa aka tuhumi su mohd abaca abaya, kuma a kabar su mohd babangida shine su mbabangida kept a low profile during kama karyar shugabancin babangida, while su m.abaca da babarsa kuwa, mutum ya rantse su ke tafida gwamnati ba ubansu ba.
Title: Babangida's Son arrested
Post by: amira on August 23, 2006, 08:15:18 PM
that does sound dodge for m babangida cos obviously for a person with no know employment, akwai abin bincike.

NIGERIA, NIGERIA, NIGERIA this country gaskiya its needs sumone to mend it tana cikin wani hali. :cry:
Title: Babangida's Son arrested
Post by: Ete on August 24, 2006, 12:49:20 PM
The country is far too gone. There is no hope for Nigeria, at least not for another 150 years, and that's even being generous. Realistically, things may begin to change for the better in say 300 years time.
Title: Babangida's Son arrested
Post by: Muhsin on August 24, 2006, 03:52:43 PM
I wonder why do we used to forget something that is vital with EFCC itself.
Wallahi, EFCC is a deluder, purposely established for so reason-decieve paople ith what is going with government and financial cadre.
Pls, who can recall the day EFCC announced the charge(s) on OBJ himself. Where this story went?
I'm not here saying the apprehension of IBB's son in unfair,no, lets sy its but why whenever  person is pro-govenment, you will never hear EFCC say a word on whatever he does? Why? We 're not asleep. Know this EFCC! :roll:
Title: zizo wrote
Post by: hikma on August 30, 2006, 01:07:28 PM
Moh'd Abacha n co shd have somethin to say bout this.
I have always thot it odd that the at the time Abacha kids where given such treatment,Mohd Babangida and indeed other 'first kids' where left untouched.


for me, i abhor vindictiveness. if u`re on pararel lines with a member of a certain family, it doesnt make it right 4 u 2 play jingoism against other innocent members of that family. what the abachas nd co. are experiencin 2day only goes 2 show our true colour as a pple nd a nation. its unfortunate that there is disparity every where in our lives wit special cognisance to d admisnistration of justice. just as u hinted dat when u fall out of symphathy nd u`re not in any sort of romance with the administrators, u simply are made d hunted...
Title: Re: zizo wrote
Post by: HUSNAA on August 30, 2006, 07:43:28 PM
Quote from: "hikma"Moh'd Abacha n co shd have somethin to say bout this.
I have always thot it odd that the at the time Abacha kids where given such treatment,Mohd Babangida and indeed other 'first kids' where left untouched.


for me, i abhor vindictiveness. if u`re on pararel lines with a member of a certain family, it doesnt make it right 4 u 2 play jingoism against other innocent members of that family. what the abachas nd co. are experiencin 2day only goes 2 show our true colour as a pple nd a nation. its unfortunate that there is disparity every where in our lives wit special cognisance to d admisnistration of justice. just as u hinted dat when u fall out of symphathy nd u`re not in any sort of romance with the administrators, u simply are made d hunted...

The reason why the Abaca family came under very close scrutiny was because they chose to live in the public eye when their father was president. They acted as if ruling Nigeria was a joint venture between them and their father. We have all heard of the way their mother ruled in ASO rock. I have  heard reliable witness accounts from ppl who have been in her presence when she was the lady of Aso rock how they were made to kowtow to her, how u cant walk around with yr shoes in her presence, how u cant sit on the sofa in her presence but have to make do with the floor rugs etc etc. She could make or break a person's very livelihood. There were also unsubstantiated accounts of cruelty towards domestic help. There was a particularly gruesome one which I wont go into here.
As for the children, they intimidated everyone, it didnt matter how high yr rank in the govt was, theirs as 'first kids' was higher or so they thought. It was alledged that whenever Mohd Abaca was in town, say Kano any high ranking officer/civil servant who happened to be in the same town, usually went over to the Abaca residence to pay their respects to him. It was almost mandatory because one's job depended on appearing servile. He was alleged to never extend a hand of greeting and would deliberately walk around with his hands clasped behind his back.

When Ibrahim Abaca died, Mohammed had a relation of mine by marriage who worked for his brother imprisoned, because some moneys belonging to the late Ibrahim Abaca couldnt be accounted for. My relative was imprisoned for nearly as long as Abaca was president of Nigeria. I think he got released a year before Abaca's death, though I cant be sure

It was said that the only man that talked back not only to the kids but to their father as well was Buhari. There was this tale of Mohammed going to Buhari's office when he (Buhari) was the CEO at PTF and demanding that Buhari give him a kwangila worth over a billion naira. A billion naira in those days was worth its name (the exchange rate was about N80 to the dollar). I think that Buhari rebuffed him and he Mohammed threatened Buhari or something ( I really cant remember the story properly). He Buhari then either slapped him or told him off in the harshest terms and had him thrown out of the office.. something to that effect. Then he phoned Abaca and complained about the matter to him.
Abaca's reply?
"Dan bishnessh din su shi keyi!!"

I dont know how true this tale is, so take it as just that, a tale. But it is  true that Mohammed Abaca had the gall to slap Ibrahim Kumasi the Inspector General of Nigeria of that era. I am not sure if he slapped him while Ibrahim Kumasi was the IG or after he vacated the post. But whichever, ai ya isa ya haife shi, for that alone he should give him the requisite respect.

.No juicy tidbits have ever been circulated about preceding first children before the Abaca brats came on the scene. So that is one reason why  krieg lights of inquisition were focused at them after their father's demise.

I remember the day I heard about Abaca's death. I was at the MIS dept in BUK, working on something when the director came over and casually said as coolly as you please:
'Abaca fa ya rasu' and then just as casually walked away.
I mean the event of the century just happened!!!..... and it was as if he was telling me that the sky was overcast and he thinks it was going to rain.
The news didnt quite sink in, so I went over to his office and looked askance at him.
'What did you just say?'
'Abaca ya rasu,' he repeated matter of factly. 'He died in the middle of the night, cause of death not ascertained as yet.'

The first person I thought of was Maryam Abaca. What I thought about her was the agenda of  things she may have planned to execute the next day, for her self and those around her on the night of her husband's death, quite blissfully ignorant of the fact that they will never be fulfilled. I thought
'wane irin buri ne matar nan ta kwana dashi da baza taba ganin aiwatarwarsa ba?' Allahu Akbar!
'Wa Yamkurūna Wa Yamkuru Allāhu Wa Allāhu Khayru Al-Mākirīna '

I felt sorry for her then probably for the first and only time.
Title: Babangida's Son arrested
Post by: Ete on August 30, 2006, 08:41:05 PM
Husnna, please for the benefit of us keferis here that do not understand hausa, try and inteprete the things you write in hausa so we'll be in on the gist, unless of course,  it is for a select audience alone.

I also heard that Abacha died after having sex with some Indian and Lebanese women and eating apple afterwards.  It is either the apple was poisoned or the combination of a wild orgy with apple is just plain deadly.  But the reason why Abacha came to hold the highest office in Nigeria is because of the failure of our governments at securing our borders.  We have people from Chad and Niger republic crossing our borders through the north, and passing themselves off as Nigerians. That is illegal. This was how Abacha entered Nigeria and claimed Kano as his home state according to reliable sources.

Our fellow citizens in the north should realize that border security is very important to domestic security. They need to realize that they cannot just welcome Chadians and Niger Republic citizens with open arms and allow them take advantage of what our society offers.  If they want to become Nigerian citizens, those people need to apply the proper way and wait  in line behind the millions of foreigners that want to be citizens of our country.  Right now, we have 1.5 million unocumented illegal Niger Republicans in Kano. Some of them are even commissioners.

So my advice to my northern brothers/sisters, you will be merginalised soon by chadians. You think allowing them in is a sign of good brotherhood?  You all allowed Abacha come in through the back door and into the Nigeria Army, and see what happened.  By the way, how in this World did anybody allow Abacha into the Armed forces? The British instructors at Sandhurst where they all usually went for training in those days adviced the Nigeria government  to simply withdraw Abacha from the Army. That is, his performance at Sandhurst was so bad it was scary.  Nigeria kingmakers ignored the warning and left him there...see what happend.
Title: Babangida's Son arrested
Post by: lionger on August 30, 2006, 10:21:08 PM
Well in the mid-90s my brother was a classmate of one of Abacha's sons (apparently) for a short period. From what I heard it seems he was a blinger and 'intimidator' as well, and the day Abacha died he disappeared and was never seen there again. I found out about Abacha's death at around mid-afternoon that Monday (I think it was a Monday), from CNN International. Later NTA confirmed the news. That evening friends and neigbors called in and started wild celebrations. It was one of the strangest days I ever witnessed in Nigeria, surpassed only by the tragic mayhem of the post-June 12 elections that I also saw in Lagos  :( .

I heard all sorts of rumors about his death, including the one Ete mentioned. I also heard one about an overdose of Burantashi being responsible for his death  :shock: . Only God knows what really happened to him.