Salam Brothers and sisters,
i will like to start by comending the founders of this site for their vision.This will contribute in no small way in creating ideas and providing an avenue for dialogue amongst the youth of arewa.
It is obvious to every one to see that our pepole and our part of the country is the most backward in all facets of our national life.The Arewa people are the most illiterate and poor in Nigeria.We make little contribution to the economy and even at that,it is at the lower rungs of the ladder.This despite the fact that we have the largest land mass in the country,the biggest population and are blessed with fertile soil and abundant rainfall.Whereas the Igbo's are known as enterprising traders and businessmen,and the Yoruba's as educationists and professionals per excellence,our people are identified first and foremost as beggers and if employed as Guards.Suach is the sorry situation our dear arewa has found herself that a state in the western part of Nigeria produces more gradutes at all levels of education each year than all the arewa states put together.Indeed our governments count as part of their achievements an 8% pass rate in 5 subjects in SSCE!
'Yan uwa,it has not always been this way.Granted,we were always playing catch up to the other regions,but we were catching up!That was of course before the tragedies of 15th january 1966.Our leaders have betrayed us,they have turned us into a society of beggers and sycopants.What we need in arewa is a social re-engineering,a soul searching,to find out what we want for ourselves,to take charge of our future,to find leaders amongst us as dedicated as Gamji.No 1 is going to do it for us,especially not our expired leaders tha gang up in kaduna under the charade called ACF.We the youth need to talk more,orginise,try to effect changes through personal example.This we must do to achieve a our dream arewa.An arewa where illiterac y is not known,beggers become relics,farming revived,a set of values in place, and only then can we take our proper place on an equal footing with rest of the country in nation building.
Sara da sassaka ba ya hana gamji tuhu!
Gaskiya ne, but (brainstorm) how can we make a difference ? It seems to be very difficult to change the current situation. , but the problem is most of us are Moslem and like most of the Muslim world, we can't give our Qur'an up so easily for a bottle of Gin and try to immitate turawa so easily and become his fool, the west hates Islam and Muslims so one way or the other they(the west) want to anihilate our Islamic way of life whether we live abroad or in our Islamic society . The west are oppressors, just look at history. I don't think it is just back home but the whole Islamic world is suffering, because we cannot trade in religion for shimmering glass. moslems need to be the best educated, and conducted of all people, because our deen is the truth for all mankind from God.
Nice interesting topic, this is a good chain Abut.
I like this topic and will print it for others to see it.
Great post!
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Nice interesting topic, this is a good chain Abut.
I like this topic and will print it for others to see it.
Great post!
Yeah men, tis a great post.
hey man, is that your son?
Two points.
The "West" does not hate Islam so this should not be used as an excuse for anything. If Arewa is failing it is Arewa's responsibility, nobody else's.
The original post from Abut is first class. The key is to bring into use the huge natural resources of the north. That means properly organised large scale farming as I have said before many times on this forum. The north has huge fertile lands and could export billions of Nairas of fruit and vegetables to the west as many African countries with much less than Nigeria are doing at the moment. Kano State is particularly well situated with Tiga/Bagauda irrigation power available.
Everybody in Kano State could have good work if things were organised properly. There is no need for "oil money" if the Northern states get their priorities right. But it would take ten years to get the plan going properly.
You see to me, the north has been shirked by its leaders who are not united and are too selfish. What with Gowon, Shagari, Buhari, IBB, and Abdulsalam all from the north that have ruled Nigeria cannot unite and move Arewa forward? We are backwarsd in every thing, name it education, roads, healthcare etc. However among the enemies of the Arewa advancement and unity are Solomon Lar, Dan Suleiman & co. These "leaders" of the north are always calling for its division by an unfortunate call for the formation of the "middle belt" out of the north. They have so far not succeeded. Solomon Lar has cornered Federal jobs for his family members. Very shameful indeed.
IBB to me stands out to be the better of the whole ex leaders of Nigeria from the north. He has done quite a number projects in the north for all to see, as follows:
a. First dualized road in the north from Abuja-Kaduna- Kano
b. National Eye Center in Kaduna (Africa's best)
c. Police Academy (Wudil) Kano
d. NNPC Depot Jos, Yola, Maiduguri, Minna.
These are some projects I can remember executed by IBB that are really monumental, no matter what we may think of him.
David hill you trash man, look you people gave africa the problem, just like your comments are always problem, why don't you post ur comment at Denmark.com or wherever you live, it's true you english bastards like to ruin things for people, and then say"it's your' responsiblity to do clean something up", the Arewa was fine, until you bastards came, and so was Africa and the rest of the world, being a political leader in Africa is not a peice of cake, Africa never will be like the west, Africa has it's own business, and agenda ,
Dave Hill, see it is you european people who makes problem in any land you go to whether it be India, Asia Africa or the Americas, there is not a culture you people have not tried to ruin, if so then tell, you people like to help, but always does more harm to people, the world did not make all of this false boundry it is you people who plant the roots for problem, you people only cause destruction to others, culturally, and economically am I wrong?
Salam,
i think we are missing the plot.While it is true that the europeans have a lion share of the blame for the pitiful condition the third world finds itself in,we should not expect them to help us out,and calling them names would not change a thing,the challenge for creating a better future lies squrely on our young shoulders.Please lets get ideas on how to move foward.
P.S
Development is not measured by the number of buildings or institutes built,it is Human development that counts.Education is the key here.
Samba,
What is Africa's agenda? What is its own business?
I think you are WAY off the mark. Such a defeatist attitude will never get you or Northern Nigeria a thing in this life. Please borrow a leaf from Abut.
As far as Northern Nigeria's despicable plight is concerned, the buck stops at its leaders, full stop. It has precious little to do with the West or even the rest of Nigeria. It is extremely lazy and even irresponsible for us to continue blaming others for all our problems. So, once upon a time the europeans made a mess in Nigeria, you want them to come back and clean up the mess they made? Abi u want the U.S. to liberate u like they just did for Iraq? Abeg...
I tell you, the Japanese would not have gotten anywhere if for the past half-century they just sat and moaned about the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings. I think Abut, Guduma and Mr. Hill have pointed us in the right direction. And speaking of mr. hill, please refrian from insulting others on this forum! >:(
Abut Lionger and Mr.Dave, your statements are absolute facts, and I thank you.Careful Samba!
I think one way of clearing all these sentiments about europeans and all(which I have no shacles from today) is to move forward to the system of government that best suits us first. Designd for us. Democracy yes but not capitalism... it's not the best we are yet to see, niether was it designed for us, What suits us more is to design and define another government.
Secondly, we need to make movements and chase these governments into excuting progressive and helpful projects. These projects are not too inaffordable, and whats better is that they are returning income to the state. But unfortunately what we lack are not the ideas to make these happen, but the zeal. In order fot there be a correction, the whole uppercase has to be wiped out, i.e via a new democracy.(like I stated above)
Power could be generated from numerous dams for the north, and even solar(to a lower scale), gas turbines for the south(wid numerous gas) and wind energy for the west(with enermous coasts). This will super solve the problem of nepa. Money? we got it excess my friends, especially in resource.
Manpower is also readily available. Education could be achieved via education tax system, where all primary and secondary education is free..teachers getting good salaries and working conditions, plus equipments. Health, roads, everything name it. We can do it.
Like Mr Dave mentioned, our Agric could be utilised to feed the nation and beyond and even get a national revenue from it. People lets wake up please!
some one give me more!
Abut its' true education is important, but especially when there is something to look for after education.
abut, sorry man I got off subject your true, It is education most needed in Arewa and Muslim in West Africa.
Lionger, Africa agenda is anything that suites Africa, be languadge, economy or anything that benefits or develops Africa at it's own speed, ka gani.
Africas business, Africa has it's own history much different from any other part of the world, so Africa has it's own business(matters) to deal whatever problems must be dealt with we must deal with, but Africa must imancipate ourselves without the whitman's help, or bumming on him, true independence is having your, culture, your land, everything grown from a grassroots level, and having the know how and power to make our own decisions. everything must start there.
As far as the leaders, we are the blame because we make them that way, nobody believes in Niaja because the whiteman just put it together. Remember Pakistan, it formed from Mulsim India, maybe we should do a similiar thing with Niger republic? Nigeria will not work, wirhout unity there is nothing so that is the first problem, north cannot work against south, two hands must work together.
Lionger Japan has a total different history than west Africa, they were bombed, but they already were successful and unified had a good economy. Niaja was put together by white people under different cercumstances. Britain and U.S are superpower if they invade anywhere, only a super president or super power can help the situation, because the whiteman planted these seed of destruction, all we can do is kill it and grow our own and be self reliant meaning separation it's the only cure?
Lionger, so it's my opinion you have yours and white people still corrode Africa indirectly you beleive what you want,
I am not a polititian so I must tell the TRUTH! Our mantality has been and will not be changing anytime soon, if I was a polititian, I would do the same thing as in behavior because It is what I am expected to do. So I wouldn't feel I can make a difference in the society, so why not get all I can from the whitman's put together to benefit myself and my people?
Lionger, :D
Ibro careful your self ! hey you are also true, good ideas, but they will be very difficult to put in action, You speak as if there is no south who or who will do all of these things. You are true Ibro, but what we need is a superhero or superLeader to correct these problems.
Let me stop here because I have lost interest 8)
Abut you made perfect sense in your post, and Guduma you are true also :D
Samba,
Let's talk Northern Nigeria. Oya!
EMANCIPATE UR SELVES FROM MENTAL SLAVERY NON BUT OURSELVES CAN FREE OUR MINDS,HAVE NO FEAR FOR ATOMIC ENERGY....COS NONE OF THEM CAN STOP THE TIDE...
samba....to educate a man is to equip him with all he needs to survive.The enabling environment dosent exist...but is up to us to do wat we got to do to survive.
salam
Abut i have no idea why people like yourself tend to view issues through a narrow prism of ethnic chauvanism. It never ceases to amaze me when people continue to complain about the state of arewa (what ever that is). If you are really concerned, then you should perhaps stage a revolution and institute a compulsory free education.
AND THEN WHAT?
That is the question Abut. there are countries where the educational achievement is almost 80% but they still live in misery. I am not saying education is not important but to represent it as the only way one could better himself is almost stupid.
Fact: In 1906 only 6% of americans went to high school yet the country with the most self-made rich people was america.
You see what the arewa people ought to do is be 'responsible'. Being responsible means doing the right thing at all time.
Finally, as a muslim, you primary constituency should be that of people in the islamic faith not people who have the same culture as yourself. For me a Kataf (Kaduna) is no better than an Urhobo (Rivers)
I am so tired of this kind of debate.
Lets move on!
Lionger, you said we are only talking Norht, How? North or South it is still nigeria, ko? If North and south can't unite, which is nearly impossible, then why not separate that way the south cannot entervene with Arewa affair,
You are true again Abut :), only an educated man doesn't mean he will not be a criminal, me man, I understand your point, it is true only I see this as a problem for Arewa, Nigeria, Africa, the Third world and Muslims as a whole I can't see a separation in any, it is a national and a continental problem.
The solution rest on our shoulders, it is my responsiblity and yours also, I have education, but where can I start to make a difference, and who will believe in me to make a difference,
I was willing to organize or help organize a social meeting for some of our brothers to meet here in u.s., that way we can exchange ideas on, business, ect. and network. But I seen close to none or very few response. I believe we can make a differece. Also do you think there should be a better connection between the Fula-Hausa in Niger-Republic and Chad, because it was all connected at once?
salam
Samba
I will not rudely reply to your intemperate remarks. Africa and
Nigeria may have enemies. I am not one of them. The enemies within are Nigeria's biggest problem - those who steal Nigeria's wealth and Nigeria's future.
I am encouraged always by the sensible voices that I read on Kanoonline. They understand that blaming the "colonisers" for Nigeria'a problems is a cop out.
Britain only controlled the North of Nigeria for about sixty years and British control ended nearly forty years ago.
How long do you expect to blame Britain for Arewa problems?
When Britain released power over Nigeria we left on good terms with the North. My greatest memory of Kano and the north of Nigeria is the friendliness of the people, the good manners and the respect they show to everybody.
The past is the past. Nothing can change the mistakes that were made then.
Nigeria's future is in Nigerian hands.
[quote author=David McEwan Hill
Britain only controlled the North of Nigeria for about sixty years and British control ended nearly forty years ago. Nothing can change the mistakes that were made then.
I rest my case o
Good greetings all,
You ppl are really great,
I enjoy all the contributions made by Amin, lionger, Ibro2g, Samba, Abut, Guduma n many others. But I am most attracted by the once by Samba, they r not only intelligent in attribute but insightful. But Kash!!!!!! what appears in the following quote does not sound like him:
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David hill you trash man, look you people gave africa the problem, just like your comments are always problem, why don't you post ur comment at Denmark.com or wherever you live, it's true you english bastards like to ruin things for people, and then say"it's your' responsiblity to do clean something up",
I suggest that he should rightaway apologise to Mr. Hill. My father used to tell me when I was a kid that in essence,
Al Ilmu bil Naqli la Bil Aqli, meaning " knowledge is obtained NOT by making rational observations, NO but by following its methods". My father, add by saying : "Therefore, there is nothing wrong to say, but there maybe everything wrong in how we say it".
This of course is part and parcel of our religion. So Samba could have made his point without calling other's names.
One other thing is the fact that we are commanded in our religion to :
Ittaku Shayha wa lau min Kafirin, that is,"Revere or respect old people, even if they are not in the fold of our faith".
This add to the fact that the presence of Mr. hill here adds a very colourful feature to this forum. Not to mention the truth that there are many of our parents that are home or abroad who believe that what we are doing here is nothing more than a trivialty and as such they do not see any reason to be with us here and disscuss issues. Please Samba tender your apology.
QuoteDevelopment is not measured by the number of buildings or institutes built,it is Human development that counts.Education is the key here.
That is a piece of friend buster..you are right. IBB may have brought some development to the North, but what is his contribution to human development?
To me I think our leaders not Europe as Samba wants us to believe are responsible for our backwardness. Let me give you an example..take Kano State now is the second (or was) industrialized state in the whole contry. Recently some people said to be representing manufacturers in Kano paid acourtesy visit to the Emir and among the problems facing industries in Kano there is power shortage. What on earth is Kano State government or Kano Richmen doing they will not set up an independant power supply, if states like bayelsa can do it. It is a shame. The next time we wake up and see no industries in Kano we will assume europeans connive with ??? to get them closed I supposed.
Kano WAS once the highest producer of Tomato in Nigeria (can I assume in West Africa). No single Kano man has a farm dedicated to vegetable farming..or just any farming...I mean large scale commercial farming. When they now invite white farmers to come and set up farms here, you will the on the frontline of criticism...blah blah our farmers (still using hoes and matchets like the old babylonians) will be wiped out by the white farmers..as if we have farmers :-[. No single government in the North has a modern farm. Even Bauchi that the governor claimed his state can feed West Africa four years ago.
I commend Shekarau (Governor of Kano State) for his effort in providing fertilizer in time last season. He could have done more by getting an investment in Fertilizer and chemical industry (foreing or anyone or even govemental) than spend money in importing fertilizer making some productive people richer while here at home subsidizing the fertilizer to our local farmers who will waste it and cause harmful effect to our soil.
Capitalist like Dangote are boasting to be highest IMPORTERS of sugar. Bacita, Savannah and other two sugar Industries all in the North are rotting due to lack of attention. All these sugarcane that we move around chewing ( as if we dont have anything better to do with our teeth ;D) cannot supply us with our daily sugar need. we prefer to make Brazil richer. I dont blame dangote he looks for money...but please put some patriotism for God sake!!!
Kai malam matsalr arewa fa yawa gareta...see what myadudu was just saying
QuoteFor me a Kataf (Kaduna) is no better than an Urhobo (Rivers)
I wish he means they are all Nigerians so in his sight equal.
uchh!!!! ina ta surutu i forgot to remind Samba to tender his apology to Dave please.
I don't take offence easily so it's okay.
But to think I am "English"!
Now that really does offend me.
Waziri, your suggestion belongs to yourself. This is K-online forum not K-online village, haka, I may speak my opinion, and you may speak your own, ko?
Eskimo, :), believe what you want but the truth remains... :o, ka gani?
QuoteI don't take offence easily so it's okay.
But to think I am "English"!
Now that really does offend me.
R u Scottish Dave?
Yadudu,i dont really grab what you meant by your reference to the katafs so i wont go into that,however i agree with you that my primary constituency in Islam and as a muslim i hope to 1 day live in a society that is just and fair under the Shari'a where true social justice rules.It is however not 4 me alone to start a revolution(it will come in due course),no 1 can do that alone.Every1(the youth especially)will have to join forces under 1 umbrella and take our destiny in our hands.
We all agree that things are bad and we need change,but change dosent come about by itself.Its high time we(arewa youth) got together under 1 umbrella,united by 1 goal,how to bring about the much needed changes in our society through a complete social re-engineering.To but our region of the country on a strong footing vis-a-vis the other regions in the country.Youths in Ijaw land are fighting for change.The OPC is made up of youths,we are only used 4 electoral violence.
Nigeria also needs re-structuring,as the only basis for any real chance for peace in the future.The current state of affairs where some areas of the country are marginalised is no longer tenable.We have to all come around and sit down and fashion out a way we can live in peace with 1 another.
This 1 goes out to every1,i know some of my ideas sound utopian,but these are open to discourse and modification,that is why we have this forum.We need ideas people,not just critics.When you criticise,you should also offer alternatives.
Allah ya taimake mu.
Yes, I am Scottish.
I made no reference to katafs. Perhaps somebody else did.
Nigeria from North to South, East to West has every raw material and potential it needs to be a prosperous and progressive society. But what it needs above all now is honest leadership at every level so that the wealth of the nation can be put to work for everybody not just the few that can get their hands on it.
All societies have gone through similar difficult stages before democracy, good order and probity on the part of the leaders becomes the way things are done.
It means that the whole of the society has to want to change to doing things honestly and properly. You need a national crusade led by respected and honest leaders drawn from all across the federation and you need laws enforced strongly against those who steal the nations revenues.
Can this happen?
David McEwan Hill (Maigemu)
PS KanoOnline is a credit to those who made it happen and I much enjoy contributing to it. My thanks for the kind words in my defence. As an "outsider looking in" perhaps I can sometimes present a different view that stimulates debate. I feel very strongly there will be constitutional upheaval in Nigeria soon unless things improve.
Mcwean, your news is old.
Quotesalam
Lets move on!
QuoteSamba
I will not rudely reply to your intemperate remarks. Africa and
Nigeria may have enemies. I am not one of them. The enemies within are Nigeria's biggest problem - those who steal Nigeria's wealth and Nigeria's future.
I am encouraged always by the sensible voices that I read on Kanoonline. They understand that blaming the "colonisers" for Nigeria'a problems is a cop out.
Britain only controlled the North of Nigeria for about sixty years and British control ended nearly forty years ago.
How long do you expect to blame Britain for Arewa problems?
When Britain released power over Nigeria we left on good terms with the North. My greatest memory of Kano and the north of Nigeria is the friendliness of the people, the good manners and the respect they show to everybody.
The past is the past. Nothing can change the mistakes that were made then.
Nigeria's future is in Nigerian hands.
Yes, the above is the right thing we should be thinking about if we want to move forward. But I just wanted to point out to Mr Hill a few places he didn't quite get right. I don't agree that Britain "ONLY" controlled the north for about sixty years and has left for forty more. Is it just sixty years my good man? I'd like to know what and what they did within those sixty years then Mr Hill? Because according to history books and reality too, our colonial masters spent those sixty years exploiting our resources, taking away all that they could that they needed for their industries, therefore development. They only created infrastructure where it was necessary for the efficient transfer of our wealth back to their home of Great Britain ( God save the Queen!). Railroads, roads, even modern buildings and homes were all created where "needed" for the people responsible for this silent "rape" and exploitation of our God-given wealth. So also, this "transfer" did not even start in the 20th century, it goes way back a few hundred years earlier, during the early days of colonialism. I am aware that I do not need to re-educate the forum on what I have just stated above, I only intend to remind it. Colonialism and it's proponents, the players, the British came here and took. They took and took and took. And in the process they made sure that they did not allow us to be able to emulate them and develop our country( which they created and even named). They did not educate us enough, they did not develop our infrastructure adequately and the saddest part is that we cannot sit down and continue to solely blame them for all our problems. What we should do is blame them and work at solving our problems. Industrialise, just like they did. Simply copy the smart s.o.b's, our former colonial masters and do what they didn't. Europe underdeveloped Africa, this we all know is true, and she's not ready to "un-underdevelop" Africa now or ever. WE have that tedious task before us. I just think that they are a bunch of smart-cowards, just like some one who would steal from a blind beggar, instead of helping that beggar use his money to get treated in the hospital and be rid of his blindness! 8)
Indeed Britain did grab colonies to exploit them. I've never said otherwise and those who have read my posts on this forum from when I started contributing will know that I strongly disapprove of all colonialism. They will also know that I believe that the states that the colonialists drew up in Africa were nonsense with no attention paid to the natural divisions which already existed in Africa before they invaded.I live in Scotland which I believe was also colonised by England (by bribing our leaders) so my sympathies are with all countries that have been taken by other nations.
HOWEVER NIGERIA'S PROBLEMS TODAY ARE ENTIRELY OF ITS OWN MAKING AND HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH BRITISH RULE.
TO GO ON SHOUTING ABOUT THE DAMAGE OF THE COLONIAL RULERS WHO LEFT FORTY YEARS AGO AND BLAMING THEM FOR TODAY'S PROBLEMS IS A CONVENIENT WAY OF AVOIDING DOING ANYTHING TO SOLVE PRESENT PROBLEMS. NIGERIA IS MUCH BIGGER THAN BRITAIN WITH TWICE THE POPULATION AND SHOULD BE WEALTHY. WHERE HAS ALL ITS MONEY GONE? THE BRITISH DONT HAVE IT.
Hi David, it's good that we share some opinions in common, and I must admit that I was not fully aware that was your position on colonialism, everywhere. Now I know. I would like to say that I am not shouting and blaming the British for all our problems. Like I stated in my previous post, I am simply highlighting one of the major contributing factors to my country's horrible condition. I did say that we should realise that the task of "fixing" Nigeria rests on the shoulders of nigerians. That point was made very clear, I ensure this in all of my posts regarding this issue. Also you finished by saying that the British don't have all the millions of stolen wealth, wealth stolen by nigerians. Are you sure Mr. Hill? If the money is not in Europe or America, then can you help me by suggesting a possible location. It is common knowledge that African leaders who loot their countries funds stash them in their favourite and most secure hiding place, the Swiss Bank. So also are millions upon millions stashed away in other great banks across Europe, including I'm afraid Britain. We hear about this everyday in newspapers and the news on t.v.
But to further illustrate my belief in nigerians being responsible for handling our current problems, I'll drop this Brit issue for now. It's not what we should focus our attention on if we really want progress. We need to know the roots of our problems though, this no one can deny. One needs to know where one is coming from in order to know where one is going to, right? No beef Mr. Hill. 8)
P.S. Mr Hill if you are free to I would really appreciate it if you read my most recent post on the topic: "Does it really matter who becomes president?" here in General Discussion. I just want to clearify to you that I am not expecting anybody to come and make my country better, I just like to simply address facts so as to see everything clearly.
QuoteHOWEVER NIGERIA'S PROBLEMS TODAY ARE ENTIRELY OF ITS OWN MAKING AND HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH BRITISH RULE.
TO GO ON SHOUTING ABOUT THE DAMAGE OF THE COLONIAL RULERS WHO LEFT FORTY YEARS AGO AND BLAMING THEM FOR TODAY'S PROBLEMS IS A CONVENIENT WAY OF AVOIDING DOING ANYTHING TO SOLVE PRESENT PROBLEMS. NIGERIA IS MUCH BIGGER THAN BRITAIN WITH TWICE THE POPULATION AND SHOULD BE WEALTHY. WHERE HAS ALL ITS MONEY GONE? THE BRITISH DONT HAVE IT.
I agree with mr david we have come a long way from 1960 but have not actually gotten anywhere.I am tired of reading posts from educated people that should know better than look for a second hand excuse to Nigerias problems.
The british did not steeal nigerias oil wealth and put it in swiss banks.
Nigerias "MAIN PROBLEM" has been one "LEADERSHIP".Since the events of 1966 we have had a defeciency in such a necessary comodity.
In Adam smiths factors of production he listed:capital,land,labour and enterpreneur(manager)
I beleive the enterpreneur is the most important of this factors. some may define enterpreneur as a resource manager . So in Nigerias case our resource managers have actually turned out to be resource mis-mnagers.
I am truly with Dave. you see one thing that I have learned about northerners is that they hate constructive critisims, so we always like to point fingers at someone else. Yes indeed nigeria was colonised by britain, but is that the reason we are going to keep using for our own neglegence? can't we just move on, the past is past and there's a lot of countries that were colonised before and after Nigeria who have move on to another level. For example U.S. was a colonized country but look at them now they are like the world leaders, and also what happend to South Africa? see we should just get up our lazy asses and start doing somethig for the good of our grandchildren or great-grand children future.
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...Nigerias "MAIN PROBLEM" has been one "LEADERSHIP".Since the events of 1966 we have had a defeciency in such a necessary comodity......
Thats right! but whos gonna correct that for us? Like Gimbiya said "we should just get up our lazy asses and start doing somethig for the good of our grandchildren or great-grand children future" I believe thats the point!!! Shikenan
It seems Mr Hill has a way of persuading people to agree with him. No I'm just kidding, yes even I do agree with him, we alone need to stand up and change things. But I do feel that I have been grossly misunderstood. I studied history in secondary school, and if anybody knows what it's like, then you'll understand my point of view. I am not sitting on my "lazy ass" and "pointing fingers", I simply wanted to highlight what I believe is one of the roots of our problems. Now, I know it may have sounded a bit naieve or perhaps uneducated, but you shouldn't blame me, it's what I know. We learn everyday, and since my posting any replies here I've talked to many people about the issue. And I must admit that currently, our people, our leaders are doing nothing to change the country for the better. They are infact doing everything they can ( and they can do a lot) to make things worse for the rest of us while they benefit. I was and still am appalled. The older I get and become a more active member of the society, the more frightening it gets. Sometimes I even feel the urge to leave the country, but what good will that do (even though it's not a bad idea, lol). It's a pretty big mess, and we have serious work to do. I still believe good can be done.
QuoteI am truly with Dave. you see one thing that I have learned about northerners is that they hate constructive critisims, so we always like to point fingers at someone else. Yes indeed nigeria was colonised by britain, but is that the reason we are going to keep using for our own neglegence? can't we just move on, the past is past and there's a lot of countries that were colonised before and after Nigeria who have move on to another level. For example U.S. was a colonized country but look at them now they are like the world leaders, and also what happend to South Africa? see we should just get up our lazy asses and start doing somethig for the good of our grandchildren or great-grand children future.
This is an example of how I have been greatly misunderstood. I simply mentioned the colonisation bit so as to help us understand the roots of our problems. I did not say "it's the brits fault let them come and handle it". If you read what I said carefully maybe you would get it right. And about northerners hating "constructive criticism"...please are you serious? What does that even mean? I for one do not hate any kind of criticism, I criticise myself a lot and my people (the northerners you almost insulted). It is the only way forward, plus I was simply sharing my own opinion and in return I was hoping I could learn and understand more. Is that what you call "hating constructive criticism"? Gimbiyar Kano not all people are alike!
Yes I agree that lack of good leadership indeed is the bane of our problems. We have over the years lacked people with good intentions to rule us. The colonial masters have also refused to let us go for obvious teasons, that makes our independence a fluke. They employ all kinds of tactics to decieve us in spending our wealth foolishly. The recently concluded commonwealth conference has turned out to be a wasteful extravagant jamboree, the same with All Africa Games. The two have achieved absolutely nothing but to make our masses poorer.
Finally, someone who understands my point. This is exactly what I was trying to get to. They left us forty whatever years ago, yes it's in the history books. But reality, what's on ground is quite different. They ( colonial masters, west) have immense power and influence in almost every thirdworld government in existence. We owe them billions, so because of that, they ususally dictate government policies to us, tell us what to do. Not once I tell you, have they ever made any government do anything commendable, progressive or pro-development. Instead it's always something adverse to the country, the people. Has anyone ever heard of " NEO COLONIALISM"? A lot of bullcrap goes on in the shadows most of us aren't aware of. Sometimes you have God-fearing nigerians who really want to do good for their people, but they never get that opportunity, even as presidents and leaders! Obasanjo might be one of them ( though I am quite displeased with his government's performance as yet). WE have the sole responsibility of fixing issues no doubt, and our leaders should make the first step, but let me assure you there are outside forces making it hell for those wanting to change things.
Forget about the darn colonial masters! This thread is about the relatively deplorable state of the North in comparison to the rest of the country. Are they responsible for that? Please let's get back to the topic. It's even debatable whether Obasanjo's name should be mentioned here.
Fine, lets. So the north is in a deplorable state, worse than almost everyother part of the country even. Lets discuss that. And the first thing I'd like to know is how did the north get to where it is today? What exactly led to it's current deplorable state? Or did we just find ourselves here Lionger?
Lionger we can continue beating around the bush on how the becomes under developed, but the fact and crux of the matter is the continued misplacement of priorities by our leaders still squirming under the yoke of colonialism. The leaders appear to be in total confusion whenever we are to decide on what is beneficial to the majority.
In 1987 the then Bauchi State Governor Col. Chris Abutu Garuba awarded a contract for the construction of an olympic size swiming pool in Bauchi, the capital. Believe me sincerely the brand new boreholes were hurriedly sunk at the site, while the town of Bauchi had no portable drinking water then. The question to ask here is that for God's sake what has Bauchi State as a people got do with an olympic size swiming pool? The majority of the people would rather opt for good roads, good medical care, quality education etc.
It is my belief that such white elephant were executed not only in Bauchi State, but all over the north. It is time our leaders begin to re order their priorities to suit our needs and not for anything else.
SAMBA I BELIEVE WHAT I LIKE IF YOU LIKE BELIEVE WHAT YOU DONT LIKE. THAT IS YOUR HEADACHE. YOU CANT STOP ME BELIEVEING WHAT I LIKE. LIKE YOU SAID THIS IS KANO ONLINE FORUM NOT VILLAGE.
Salam,
Arewa is in deplorable state..it is not just a matter of criticism but giving a way forward.
I think the way forward is not in blaming the colonialist or who ever.
They exploited us in the past ofcourse. But how many nations like us were exploited and now they are fast developing while we are reterding with the speed of light..errr I mean sound.
Lionger e bi like Obasanjo dey settle you. ;D
Yeah man, wannan haka yake!
We have discussed this issues from various angles,lets start getting ideas on the way foward,how do we get our thoughts translated into action.That is the real challenge my brothers(n sisters,in the interest of peace) ;D