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Title: PRESIDENT'S DAUGHTERS AS THE NEW IMMUNITY
Post by: Lawwali on January 27, 2009, 10:24:19 PM
The Polity Has heated up with debates over whether the immunity clause in the constitution should be removed. Some proponents believed that without immunity in the constitution, No public office Holder (Governor, His Deputy, President or Vice President) Can misappropriate public funds with impunity. The opponents in the other Hand opinned that immunity gives the public office holder uninterrupted time to deal with issue which court cases against him will otherwise not grants Him. :-\

Now, the immunity is seemingly going to be deleted from the constitution; Some Governors resorts to marrying the president's Daughters. Presumeably if something went wrong, Her Excellency TURAI (or His Excellency her Husband) may not allow her son-inlaw to land in the EFCC's Hand  :-X-who knows the motive behind these "political'' Marriages. Another Governor recently married the Daughter of a powerful ex-president. May ALLAH Deliver us.  :o
Title: Re: PRESIDENT'S DAUGHTERS AS THE NEW IMMUNITY
Post by: HUSNAA on January 30, 2009, 09:30:17 AM
Duk suyi su gama, they cant frustrate the plans Allah Has laid out for them or the masses they rule. If only the masses would be less passive to those who rule them.
Title: Re: PRESIDENT'S DAUGHTERS AS THE NEW IMMUNITY
Post by: usman11 on January 31, 2009, 12:21:04 AM
During the constitutional review or was it amendment of 99, immunity should never have been inserted into our laws given our decadent history of massive corrupt practices. The whole point of the transition of 99 was to reform our system and chart a new political course away from the old ways of doing things. One way to have ensured that individual acountability became the norm in public service would have been to strip any kind of protection for public servant where official conduct and public trust were involved.

The argument that immunity clause shields a state executive from frivolus lawsuits brought about by his or her political opponents is not a particularly strong one given the overwhelming and compelling reasons against it being granted. In most normal societies, immunity for state executives is limited and only extends to areas that actually prevent the governor from the LEGAL discharge of his/her duties that are largely seen to be in the public's best interest. The laws on immunity are usually very clear, and does not under circumstance offer protection for misconduct, financial impropriety, or anything that has the appearance of illegality. In other words, if a public officer ex governor is found to be in violation of public trust, nobody asks about immunity, he/she is simply investigated. If the individual under investigation interfares with any part of the investigation, his or her problem worsens. If the investigation uncovers evidence of wrong doing, impeachment by the state house is in order. This kind of checks and balance helps keep government officials on their toes.

So immunity is not a blanket cover or a protection mechanism designed to shield the governor for lawful prosecution. This is why Illinois Governor, Rod Blago was impeached by Illinios state legislature yesterday not for actually embezelling funds but for conspiracy. The conspiracy was the idea that he could 'sell' the vacant Senate seat of President Obama in return for political and financial rewards. He did not actually follow through, but just planning it, or the thought of it, was enough to prosecute and impeach him. This sends a message. In the case of Nigeria, Chairman Ribadu was fighting tooth and nail to file corruption charges against defaulting persons known to be looting their state treasuries. At every corner, he had to fight forces set up to frustrate his courageous and noble effort in combating corruption. Today, that same man that displayed such courage is being hounded, and his life put at risk while we have a so called President watching this madness unfold. Is there hope for a society like this? I think not. 
Title: Re: PRESIDENT'S DAUGHTERS AS THE NEW IMMUNITY
Post by: Sani Danbaffa on January 31, 2009, 03:21:30 PM
Duniya labari!

Subahana! I crave your indulgence please. What is the problem with a governor marrying the President's daughter? Haba jama'a! Qwarya ta bi qwarya mana! Would you expect a gyartai to marry president's daughter? Wait for a dandaba to marry your sister or daughter if you will. If you would allow me to calmly inform you, only those with access to girls can marry them. Similarly if you allow me I tell you the bane of those girl's problem lies in the long throat of some "not so fit" suitors I believe you also know that the top bras in the society Mu'allims, Professors, top merchants Aristocrats, top miltary and government staff etc must be cautious of gold digger suitors! There are several of them for you to count.

Kanoonline should discuss more useful issues and not fettish ideas! I beg you pardon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: PRESIDENT'S DAUGHTERS AS THE NEW IMMUNITY
Post by: Lawwali on February 03, 2009, 10:46:47 AM
Quote from: Sani Danbaffa on January 31, 2009, 03:21:30 PM
Duniya labari!

Subahana! I crave your indulgence please. What is the problem with a governor marrying the President's daughter? Haba jama'a! Qwarya ta bi qwarya mana! Would you expect a gyartai to marry president's daughter?
Nobody Say there is a problem, but we are Nigerians with all rights and priviledges to monitor the political Tinquizers and Dazazarazers going on in the polity.

Wait for a dandaba to marry your sister or daughter if you will. If you would allow me to calmly inform you, only those with access to girls can marry them. Similarly if you allow me I tell you the bane of those girl's problem lies in the long throat of some "not so fit" suitors I believe you also know that the top bras in the society Mu'allims, Professors, top merchants Aristocrats, top miltary and government staff etc must be cautious of gold digger suitors! There are several of them for you to count.

You should know that all Nigerians ( you, Sani inclusive) are sceptical about the true intentions of all actions and inactions of their leaders who are bent on enriching themselves  from public treasuries. 8) 8)

Kanoonline should discuss more useful issues and not fettish ideas! I beg you pardon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You will not know the usefulness of all discussions untill it is too late for you.. we discusses issues no matter how remote they seems, and that is how serious societies thrives. ;)
Title: Re: PRESIDENT'S DAUGHTERS AS THE NEW IMMUNITY
Post by: waduz on February 05, 2009, 04:00:06 PM
Yes Danbaffa. I would rather, we discuss the reckless abandon with which these state marriages are conducted. The highly distastable and unwholesome use of public funds, when millions of Nigerians are roaming the streets for what to eat.
As for the immunity clause, I will say that it should not have been there in the first place. Any one, no matter how highly placed he/she might be, should face the law, if found wanting in the discharge of their public functions.
Title: Re: PRESIDENT'S DAUGHTERS AS THE NEW IMMUNITY
Post by: Dan-Borno on February 05, 2009, 10:06:31 PM
Danbaffa, ban san me kake tsoro ko gudu ba, dole ne lamari irin
wannan ayi magana, ko kadan basu isa muce ba ruwanmu da abin
da shuwagabanninmu suke yi ba.

Yanzu zancen da ake maka, Dakin Gari if not because of the intervention
by ita Babbar Uwa na Babban Gida, amaryar itace first lady while ita
uwargidan has been related to behind the curtain scenes only.  Kuma kai
baka san cewa gwamnoninnan find it hard to see Mr. President ba ko?
To ka gaya min idan Dakin Gari ko Yuguda zasu shiga Babban Gida waye
ya isa ya tambayesu if they have any appointment? mutum da ubansa.
Title: Re: PRESIDENT'S DAUGHTERS AS THE NEW IMMUNITY
Post by: Sani Danbaffa on February 06, 2009, 06:02:28 PM
Lawwalli, Waduz & Dan Borno na gaishe ku. Haka ne in some cases, shugabanci da wuya! Allah shirye su daga sama har qasan.