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Title: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Jibo on June 07, 2009, 07:35:39 PM
Abin da akewa mawakan Hausa a jihar Kano bai dace ba. Wanda ke waka a cikin cd menene aibunsa? Don me ake kama mawaki da sunan shari'ar musulunci kuma akai shi kotun majistare? Me yasa fushin wani kan shafui wani? A dai yi adalci kuma a sani gobe kiyama za.a gamu da Allah! In rana ta fito tafin hannu bai iya karte haskenta! Kukan kurciya jawabi ne!


Shi menene laifin Hikima Multimedia Studio, da Ali Jita da Dawayya da aka kama su aka rufe su?
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Muhsin on June 30, 2009, 06:03:06 PM
Is that thread your words or someone using your user-name, Jibo? I wonder if you really know what they are doing down here.
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Jibo on July 02, 2009, 01:02:37 PM
I am interested! Can you please tell me what is going on? With examples, please....
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Fateez on July 12, 2009, 06:21:47 PM
Quote from: Jibo on June 07, 2009, 07:35:39 PM
Abin da akewa mawakan Hausa a jihar Kano bai dace ba. Wanda ke waka a cikin cd menene aibunsa? Don me ake kama mawaki da sunan shari'ar musulunci kuma akai shi kotun majistare? Me yasa fushin wani kan shafui wani? A dai yi adalci kuma a sani gobe kiyama za.a gamu da Allah! In rana ta fito tafin hannu bai iya karte haskenta! Kukan kurciya jawabi ne!


Shi menene laifin Hikima Multimedia Studio, da Ali Jita da Dawayya da aka kama su aka rufe su?


I totally agree with you Jibo. It's really sad; the struggle between Kano state and the budding artists.

I'm not arguing that their music shouldn't be censored, no. But the way they are going about it is very destructive.

I have heard some really crude and tasteless material from traditional performers. In fact, growing up as a traditional

music loving child there were certain cassettes that were a strict no go area by command of my parents because they

contained unsuitable lyrics. Stuff I'm pretty sure you can still find in circulation in Kano. But because they are "traditional"

they're okay. Just because a person chooses a Guitar over a Garaya doesn't make their music any less holy than what's

was and is being produced under the heading of traditional music.

@Muhsin: What exactly do you mean? You can't just make a generalised comment like that with absolutely no back up.

Who did what and when? Just because one person does something "wrong" doesn't mean they are all like that. Rumours

and speculations is exactly why these people feel the need to rebel. Isn't "western" Hip Hop (Yes, the one with explicit

and madly inappropriate content) readily available in Kano? I'd pick a good Hausa Hip Hop artists over those anyday!

Watch this CNN piece with Ziriums and for goodness sake, hear them out. Hausa Hip Hop Artist featured on CNN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adT8M7QLn4M&feature=related#lq-hq)

I love the quote "In rana ta fito tafin hannu bai iya karte haskenta!" Reminds me of a song from the international musical

Hairspray titled You Can't Stop the Beat.

The hypocrisy in the society really makes me shudder with revulsion...... >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Dan-Borno on July 12, 2009, 10:47:59 PM
Sis Fateez, Muhsin and Bakangizo thinks the same thing
they dont give a breathing space to these guys.
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: gogannaka on July 13, 2009, 10:28:52 AM
I read in the triumph newspapers that the shekarau and Kano emirate backed singer,'ALA' has been jailed for releasing a song without seeking permission from government.

It sounds utterly ridiculous to me.
Sai kace a china ko Cambodia.
I guess the government should also start censoring what we read in the newspapers.
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Jibo on July 13, 2009, 11:44:59 AM
Quote from: gogannaka on July 13, 2009, 10:28:52 AM
I guess the government should also start censoring what we read in the newspapers.

In fact you are right, part of the work of the Board is to censor any writing to be released for public consumption. Why not censor all the Newspapers coming into KANO and the whole lot of other literature(s)? Including, the web the free to air TV programmes etc. Ala released not any song for circulation or for public consumption. I quite remember when K-boys released a song in response to Adam Zango's Oyoyo. 'After listening to Zango's song, they went to the studio and recorded a blistering counter-attack which they call Bingo.

The same blistering song was applauded by Kano Censorship Board under Rabo! The charge against Ala is that he released a song without getting it censored by the BOARD. EVIDENDCES ARE YET TO BE PROVIDED, PROBABALY ARE YET TO BE TENDERED BEFORE THE BOARD'S OWN COURT. His case may be liken to that of Iyan Tama. In mune yau, giobe to ai ba mune ba!
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Muhsin on July 17, 2009, 12:19:58 PM
Quote from: Jibo on July 02, 2009, 01:02:37 PM
I am interested! Can you please tell me what is going on? With examples, please....

Sorry. I don't have that much time at my disposal. But ask your earlier source from Kano to clarify the whole thing to you; I know you must have it. But don't ask a sided person; look for a neutral one like me. :D
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Muhsin on July 17, 2009, 01:12:11 PM
Quote from: Dan-Borno on July 12, 2009, 10:47:59 PM
Sis Fateez, Muhsin and Bakangizo thinks the same thing
they dont give a breathing space to these guys.

It's not like that, DB. We are just being fair. And mark my words; am not saying others are not. Everybody is entitle to his/her opinion.
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Muhsin on July 17, 2009, 01:25:10 PM
And regarding Ala; the guy's has not been fair to himself. It seems nobody here hear the song... ???
I'll elaborate when I get back, inshaAllah.
Thanks
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: bakangizo on July 23, 2009, 06:13:16 PM
Quote from: Dan-Borno on July 12, 2009, 10:47:59 PM
Sis Fateez, Muhsin and Bakangizo thinks the same thing
they dont give a breathing space to these guys.

Of course I think the same thing. We are not living in a jungle. There are laws and rules defining how we do the things we do. Why shouldn't there be censorship? Even in those countries you are quick to show as advanced have their own censor boards, which of course were in conformity to their way of life. So people should be left to release whatever stupid movies they churn out, or release what songs they recorded without them being checked to see whether it/they comply to the resident rules of decency, as enshrined by the host society's culture and religion? Was that what you want? Ko dabbobi suna da tsarin zamantakewa a daji, bama mutane ba.

If I may ask, how many albums has ALA released? (I personally have two). How come the previous ones were not stopped by the Censor board? What about the multitude of songs/albums that are being released by various artists week in, week out in Kano and nobody stopped them? How come your attention is always on the ones stopped (not even bothering about the reasons thereof), and not on the ones passed by the board for release? The rule says simply submit your song/movie for vetting before you release them to the public.  But of course typical of Nigerians, we must circumvent the law either unintentionally, or just for the heck of it. Just to spite the law. But do you people ever for once blame the artists for their wrong doings? No. Because you've already made up your minds against the Censor board. As far as you are concerned, the Censor board is the monster, always wrong, always vindictive, just out to get the "fair-dealing, innocent artists".

Ironically, we all know that the art of censorship is not peculiar to Kano, it is a universal practice, the difference being only on modalities and applications to suit peculiarities of societies. So going by the unwholesome and stupid movies/songs that are produced daily in our society, Censorship is a welcome development, and may Allah help them sanitize the decaying entertainment industry at least in Kano, if not the country.
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: HUSNAA on July 24, 2009, 01:50:45 PM
Da alama fa wannan bakan gizon wani top shot ne a gwamnatin mallam shekarau. Hala kai ne sule ya'u sule or whats his name? press secretary din shekarau ko kakakin gwamnati ake kiran sa ko?
To kaine banta ba ji ka goyi bayan wani dake adawa da abin da gwamnatin kano take yi ba. Tunbana in ana maganar 'yan wasan kwaikwayo kokuwa mawakan nan. Ko dai kaine shugaban 'yan hisba ne, mu kame bakunan mu mu tsare? Kasan an ce baki shi kan yanka wuya. In ba ma kasar ba za a iya bin mu da 'yan sanda ba. Amma kuma bamu sani ba ko an bude mana 'files' ta inda ana jiran samana tarko in mun dawo kasar?  ;D ;D ;D
To bakan gizo me kace? Mu rankaya a ta kare ko kuwa mu tsaya igiyar hisbah ta shako mu........? :P :P


Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: bakangizo on July 24, 2009, 04:54:14 PM
Quote from: HUSNAA on July 24, 2009, 01:50:45 PM
Da alama fa wannan bakan gizon wani top shot ne a gwamnatin mallam shekarau. Hala kai ne sule ya'u sule or whats his name? press secretary din shekarau ko kakakin gwamnati ake kiran sa ko?
To kaine banta ba ji ka goyi bayan wani dake adawa da abin da gwamnatin kano take yi ba. Tunbana in ana maganar 'yan wasan kwaikwayo kokuwa mawakan nan. Ko dai kaine shugaban 'yan hisba ne, mu kame bakunan mu mu tsare? Kasan an ce baki shi kan yanka wuya. In ba ma kasar ba za a iya bin mu da 'yan sanda ba. Amma kuma bamu sani ba ko an bude mana 'files' ta inda ana jiran samana tarko in mun dawo kasar?  ;D ;D ;D
To bakan gizo me kace? Mu rankaya a ta kare ko kuwa mu tsaya igiyar hisbah ta shako mu........? :P :P

;D ;D ;D Ko kadan, hajia. Ba wai ban taba goyon bayan mai adawa da gwamnati. Check Kano Forum, you'd find where I agreed with some pointed out lapses and weaknesses of the state govt. Na dai lura ne kawai a forum din nan, ba abinda za'a ce gwammanin Kano tayi yayi daidai. Its like a mission for some people here to find fault with every single action of the govt, and sometimes it borders on obsession. I love objectivity, and I think it is absolutely necessary for us to always analyse and criticise the govt if found wanting. It is the best way to keep the govt on its feet. But what I won't stand for is the wholesale condemnation, without proper or justifiable reason, of everything the govt (or its agents/agencies) do. Criticism is good, but we should know that it comes with a responsibility - that of being fair, just and sensible.

So Hajia, don't be afraid, me I be ordinary citizen like every other. In da ni Top Shot ne a gwamnati, ai da nima ina dan zazzagayawa kasashen waje kamar ku ina dan hutawa, ina cin daular dimokaradiyya. ;D
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Dan-Borno on July 24, 2009, 07:07:52 PM
wane irin zance kake fada? it is common on this board and
clearly visible that you dont want anything that goes against
the government of kano state - kar fa ka manta, i am also
shekarau's supporter, but kamar yadda ka fada, a fadi gaskiya
inda karya ta fito, kuma a daima cin mutane the ***** tsumma
da fakewa da addini ko tattalin tarbiya.

jibo made a very clear example of the songs these boys released
in reply to zango, akwai kazamin waka ma irin ta yarannan, but
because its a little bit soft on the side of the government, they
were even invited to perform during the may 29 somewhere in
kano government house.

mu, abin da muke fada shine: even before the advent of the
white man muna da mawakanmu da kuma yan wasan kwaikwayo
kuma kowa is allowed to show his talent.  Shata's gagarabadau's
song is a classical example where shata used vulgar and terrorised
his victim.  Shata is seen not only as a hero but a role model. that
is why he is a Dr.

Sam sam ba muce ayi iskanci ba, amma idan ba a nuna wa mutane
menene iskanci ba ta yaya zaka san iskanci?  both the musicians
and the actors are only relating stories of happenings in our
society - wether in politics, religion, economy or what ever.  So
they should be allowed and given a free hand.

Bakan Gizo ka shiga hankalinka wallahi, your planned illegal arrest
and detention of Muhsin's Aunty will meet a concrete wall resistant
and we will give her a heroic red carpet lol.
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: bakangizo on July 26, 2009, 11:42:31 AM
Quote from: Dan-Borno on July 24, 2009, 07:07:52 PM
wane irin zance kake fada? it is common on this board and
clearly visible that you dont want anything that goes against
the government of kano state...

It is funny what you wrote. Looked from another angle, isn't it obvious that you never have anything good to say about Kano state govt? Don't hide behind "I'm also his supporter". It is never evident here. So don't try to blind side us. Pretend you like someone, then make sure for every single good thing you may say about them, produce ten bad ones. I know the game well, my brother. Why are you somewhat obsessed with Shekarau? You never miss an opportunity without running here posting a thread of Shekarau did this bad thing, shekarau did that bad thing. And of course, Hajia would quicky post an agreeing response. Yeah, it is a good partneship you and Hajia in this regard. Isn't it OBVIOUS HERE? Kowa ya sani. With the way you carry on, very soon you will overtake even the Kano PDP as far as opposition to Shekarau is concern in Kano. :P  But it is your view, and your right. Just like my view and right to post a disagreeing rejoinder if feel like. And I don't give a damn if anyone feel I'm Shekarau's supporter. The same way you & Hajia don't seem to care if anybody feel you have a strong opposition against him. So each to his/her own. 

Wai tsaya ma tukun. Ba gwamna a garinku ne? Yaya zaka zo ka zo ka matsa wa gwamnan mu? ::) ;D


p-s, the rest of what you said in your post doesn't even sound like a convincing argument. You may continue to shout "munafunci ne, they are hiding behind religion, etc etc etc". The fact remains that part of a govt's a responsibilities is to checkmate issues that bother on morality. And they way the entertainment industry is turning into, this is the best thing.
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: bakangizo on July 26, 2009, 12:08:37 PM
Quote from: Dan-Borno on July 24, 2009, 07:07:52 PM

jibo made a very clear example of the songs these boys released
in reply to zango, akwai kazamin waka ma irin ta yarannan, but
because its a little bit soft on the side of the government, they
were even invited to perform during the may 29 somewhere in
kano government house.


This is the kind of story ppl create in order to spead malicious rumours. I want jibo to tell me where in govt house were K-Boyz invited and performed. Who invited them? Were they invited alone, or with other musicians? Even if they were invited, what's wrong with that? Are you saying no other musicians were ever invited or had ever played in the govt house? So if they had played, most likely with others, doesn't this goes to prove my point that the state govt was not on pesonal vendetta against them? Doesn't the state govt even sponsored some musical group to an international event? So what are we talking about?


In the Rapacious Rap thread by Prof. Abdalla, he said this,
Quote from: Abdalla on November 16, 2008, 11:30:01 PM
When the Kano State Censorship under Mal. Rabo became some kind of Taliban for the popular culture industry in Kano, musicians (or more accurately, lyricists) quickly banded themselves and released an underground song, Ki Yi Shiru Maryam Baba (which was instantly renamed Rabon Wahala)

The fact the Mal. Rabo was a former Commander of Hisbah Corps (moral police) and was indeed fond of his Hisbah uniform is not lost on those who listened -- and love the song. From my inside sources, Mal. Rabo heard the song and was apparently unhappy with the radio play it was receiving from Radio Freedom. He seemed to have complained, and they suddenly stopped airing it. However, my fieldwork indicates he did not do such thing. If anything, he actually loved the song and had it mobile phone! He says it is a good song that urges leaders to be careful and merciful in what they do -- and there is nothing wrong with that.
But the most fiery invective was from Adam Zango -- a session musician turned into an actor, and later Nanaye singer when the acting seemed to have slipped him. he recorded a song, A Zango Oyoyo. It was a blistering attack on Kano State and, particularly the Governor, Mallam Ibrahim Shekarau.
One group that took exception to the song was the K-Boyz -- a duo (stripped from four) of hard core Hausa rappers. After listening to Zango's song, they went to the studio and recorded a blistering counter-attack which they call Bingo. Recorded with a hard core beat, it is the classical Parental Advisory candidate that you see on some rap CDs. Due to its abusive contents, the song was not played on any radio station in Kano, but became a hit -- gaining popularity through being transferred via bluetooth.


Abdalla





Sharri dai bashi da amfani. Ayi hattara.
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Jibo on July 28, 2009, 11:15:52 AM
Haba BKG, find out from the beginning of this thread to the end, there is nowhere I said that The Govt. of Kano state invited K-boyz! You are being decisive by the illusion of your imagination. It is BD that makes the statement. However, Nobody supports that 'badala' be perpetuated in the society. We shall have first self-censorship before any person or authority claims to censor our creativity. What we are saying is that there is no open justice nor is there fair play. I know of some songs that have been released  for sale to the public without the Censorship Board's approval, but the artist have never been proscuted. Ala's crime is not of 'badala' but that he did not pass his songs through the Board. The truth is that did he truly release an album for sale for public consumption without censorship? Or is there any underpinning reason, an attempt to settle a score or create a damaging effect against someone?

There are wise ways of doing things with hikma and excellent wisdom!
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: HUSNAA on July 29, 2009, 12:30:30 AM
Quote from: Bakan~Gizo on July 26, 2009, 12:08:37 PM
Quote from: Dan-Borno on July 24, 2009, 07:07:52 PM

jibo made a very clear example of the songs these boys released
in reply to zango, akwai kazamin waka ma irin ta yarannan, but
because its a little bit soft on the side of the government, they
were even invited to perform during the may 29 somewhere in
kano government house.


This is the kind of story ppl create in order to spead malicious rumours. I want jibo to tell me where in govt house were K-Boyz invited and performed. Who invited them? Were they invited alone, or with other musicians? Even if they were invited, what's wrong with that? Are you saying no other musicians were ever invited or had ever played in the govt house? So if they had played, most likely with others, doesn't this goes to prove my point that the state govt was not on pesonal vendetta against them? Doesn't the state govt even sponsored some musical group to an international event? So what are we talking about?


In the Rapacious Rap thread by Prof. Abdalla, he said this,
Quote from: Abdalla on November 16, 2008, 11:30:01 PM
When the Kano State Censorship under Mal. Rabo became some kind of Taliban for the popular culture industry in Kano, musicians (or more accurately, lyricists) quickly banded themselves and released an underground song, Ki Yi Shiru Maryam Baba (which was instantly renamed Rabon Wahala)

The fact the Mal. Rabo was a former Commander of Hisbah Corps (moral police) and was indeed fond of his Hisbah uniform is not lost on those who listened -- and love the song. From my inside sources, Mal. Rabo heard the song and was apparently unhappy with the radio play it was receiving from Radio Freedom. He seemed to have complained, and they suddenly stopped airing it. However, my fieldwork indicates he did not do such thing. If anything, he actually loved the song and had it mobile phone! He says it is a good song that urges leaders to be careful and merciful in what they do -- and there is nothing wrong with that.
But the most fiery invective was from Adam Zango -- a session musician turned into an actor, and later Nanaye singer when the acting seemed to have slipped him. he recorded a song, A Zango Oyoyo. It was a blistering attack on Kano State and, particularly the Governor, Mallam Ibrahim Shekarau.
One group that took exception to the song was the K-Boyz -- a duo (stripped from four) of hard core Hausa rappers. After listening to Zango's song, they went to the studio and recorded a blistering counter-attack which they call Bingo. Recorded with a hard core beat, it is the classical Parental Advisory candidate that you see on some rap CDs. Due to its abusive contents, the song was not played on any radio station in Kano, but became a hit -- gaining popularity through being transferred via bluetooth.


Abdalla





Sharri dai bashi da amfani. Ayi hattara.


To ai kaji irin ta BKG, shiga shara ba shanu. Wannan statement din naka cewa sharri dai bashi da amfani, aiyi hattara is clearly implying that the prof made allegations without proofs. You dont know that yrself, but yr statement is so categorical that a first timer on this board will instantly idolize u as a beacon of justice and impartiality ahem ahem...while  we know from very reliable sources that tun lokacin da shekarau ya kai ruwan pampo unguwar ku, he can do no wrong again ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: bakangizo on July 29, 2009, 10:30:40 AM
Quote from: HUSNAA on July 29, 2009, 12:30:30 AM
To ai kaji irin ta BKG, shiga shara ba shanu. Wannan statement din naka cewa sharri dai bashi da amfani, aiyi hattara is clearly implying that the prof made allegations without proofs. You dont know that yrself, but yr statement is so categorical that a first timer on this board will instantly idolize u as a beacon of justice and impartiality ahem ahem...while  we know from very reliable sources that tun lokacin da shekarau ya kai ruwan pampo unguwar ku, he can do no wrong again ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Haba, hajia, yaya kike yi min haka? You very well know that I was not referring to the Prof. In fact I used his post to butress my points that contrary to most opinions here, The Censor Board was not on a destruction mission against them. That's why I quoted and put in bold where Prof. Stated that Mohammed Rabo even had Maryam's song (the one she sang against the censor board) on his phone. Plus the fact that when wannan sakaran Zango abused the Gorvernor, the K-Boyz retaliated, but no radio station aired their song, bcos the content wasn't palatable. YOu know my counsel against sharri is directed towards people here who seem to derive joy from posting assertions gainst the govt, without any shred of evidence. Wannan mischief ne kawai kike so ki kawo ;D ;D
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Muhsin on July 29, 2009, 12:03:12 PM
Well said, BKGZ.
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: gogannaka on July 29, 2009, 12:17:39 PM
Muhsin or BKGZ could you please put up the lyrics from the song that 'ala' released so that we stop making empty accusations.
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Jibo on July 30, 2009, 09:43:46 AM
Thank you GGNK, We need to have the lyrics to enable put our opinions!
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: bakangizo on July 31, 2009, 08:26:42 AM
Quote from: Jibo on July 28, 2009, 11:15:52 AM
Haba BKG, find out from the beginning of this thread to the end, there is nowhere I said that The Govt. of Kano state invited K-boyz!

You are right. My mistake. Sorry.

QuoteWhat we are saying is that there is no open justice nor is there fair play. I know of some songs that have been released  for sale to the public without the Censorship Board's approval, but the artist have never been proscuted.

How do you define justice in this case? Isn't it obvious from all these accusations and counter that "justice" depends on our sentiments? And would you please care to  tell us those who released songs/albums that were not censored and got away freely? And assuming that were true, are you saying since Mr. 'A' has committed an offence and got away with it, Mr. 'B' should also be allowed to do same?

QuoteAla's crime is not of 'badala' but that he did not pass his songs through the Board. The truth is that did he truly release an album for sale for public consumption without censorship? Or is there any underpinning reason, an attempt to settle a score or create a damaging effect against someone?

You tell us ;) You seem to have an inside feeler on all this. So tell us. Comb through ALA's songs, was there any thing damaging or destructive against the govt or its agents/officials, strong enough to warrant staging this (his arrest) as a revenge? Ko a waje kaji yayi wa gwamnati wani abu da zai sa suyi anfani da censorboard don kawai su ci masa mutunci? In akwai ka gaya mana, mu karu.

Why must we always ascribe meanings to everythhing the govt did? Must the govt ALWAYS have ulterior motives in discharging it duties?


Quote from:  gogannakaMuhsin or BKGZ could you please put up the lyrics from the song that 'ala' released so that we stop making empty accusations.

goga ai ina ji maganar ba ta lyrics bace a nan. The insinuation here is that the govt has a hidden agenda in arresting him. As  I understand it, he released or purpoted to have released a song without passing it to the Censor board as is the requirement. That was what people were questioning here.

Quote from:  jiboThank you GGNK, We need to have the lyrics to enable put our opinions

A'a. Ashe kai da ka fara maganar baka san lyrics din bama? On what then were you basing your argument? What where you contending?
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Muhsin on August 01, 2009, 12:27:02 PM
Quote from: gogannaka on July 29, 2009, 12:17:39 PM
Muhsin or BKGZ could you please put up the lyrics from the song that 'ala' released so that we stop making empty accusations.
Quote from: Jibo on July 30, 2009, 09:43:46 AM
Thank you GGNK, We need to have the lyrics to enable put our opinions!

You guys really surprise me; haven't you ever listen to that lyric? I wonder whats then the base of your accusations? Isn't that...? :o

In a briefest words: Ala curses whoever is not in support of their actions. And he prays for Allah to inflict them with all sorts of diseases, illness and the likes you could ever think of in this world.

I'll later respond more fully, inshaAllah.
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Jibo on August 03, 2009, 12:21:53 PM
Quote from: Muhsin on August 01, 2009, 12:27:02 PM
You guys really surprise me; haven't you ever listen to that lyric? I wonder whats then the base of your accusations? Isn't that...? :o
In a briefest words: Ala curses whoever is not in support of their actions. And he prays for Allah to inflict them with all sorts of diseases, illness and the likes you could ever think of in this world.
I'll later respond more fully, inshaAllah.

Ala and those who sang 'Hasbunallahi', 'Tsangayar Kura', 'Walle-walle', 'Alaika Tawakalna' and 'An kashe maciji" spoke of their enemies not of those who dislike their action? BESIDES what action are you talking about. Muhsin listen to the songs very well. They have even prayed for their enemies for Allah's guidance and on the alternative, if the enemy cannot be guided by Allah, they invoke Allah's wrath on them. That is what everybody does about his known enemies or suspected enemy. If you consider yourself as their enemy, then they are referring to you and of you consider you are against their sana'a ta waka, they you are at it!

Quote from: Bakan~Gizo on July 31, 2009, 08:26:42 AM
How do you define justice in this case? Isn't it obvious from all these accusations and counter that "justice" depends on our sentiments? And would you please care to  tell us those who released songs/albums that were not censored and got away freely? And assuming that were true, are you saying since Mr. 'A' has committed an offence and got away with it, Mr. 'B' should also be allowed to do same?

You tell us ;) You seem to have an inside feeler on all this. So tell us. Comb through ALA's songs, was there any thing damaging or destructive against the govt or its agents/officials, strong enough to warrant staging this (his arrest) as a revenge? Ko a waje kaji yayi wa gwamnati wani abu da zai sa suyi anfani da censorboard don kawai su ci masa mutunci? In akwai ka gaya mana, mu karu.

Why must we always ascribe meanings to everythhing the govt did? Must the govt ALWAYS have ulterior motives in discharging it duties?


goga ai ina ji maganar ba ta lyrics bace a nan. The insinuation here is that the govt has a hidden agenda in arresting him. As  I understand it, he released or purpoted to have released a song without passing it to the Censor board as is the requirement. That was what people were questioning here.


A'a. Ashe kai da ka fara maganar baka san lyrics din bama? On what then were you basing your argument? What where you contending?
Probably there could some other version of the lyrics I know and or some other stories I may not know.
I know of an album that has no been censored by the BOARD AND i DREW THE ATTENTION OF OF one of the officers of the Board and who confirmrd to me that it was not issued with a certificate  and from the CD plate there some utterances that ought not  be allowed according to the Board's criterai but it was released. I am conducting a reserach and as soon as Ia m through I will let you have the full gist abou my findings and conclusion.
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Muhsin on August 06, 2009, 02:43:20 PM
Assalamu alaikum,

I had actually intended to talk tall regarding this very issue as I promised. But seeing the change in the direction of argument lead me to have a change of mind/intention. What I mean here is that; I read that Jibo, who hadn't listened to the song then has now listened to it.

Well, I agree with what you said the grotesque folks say in the song in a way. Why in a way? You "silently" buried some words the glaringly and openly say, also. And let me tell you; am one of Ala's fans, for his songs, at least many of them, make sense. That's why they are beginning to enter into academic rigor. But yana nema ya bata rawarsa da tsalle. I use to say Ala's star is simultaneously at its peak of shining and bereft of so doing. Thus if he doesn't re-play his cards. . .I fear him the happening of the worst.

More over, it's gathered that his prime target in the song is the government. And with irrefutable evidences. He thinks he can out-smart people because he's a poet/singer--they have unarmed weapon to fight back government. LOL ;D He fools himself there.

And, lets assume they had not uncover his hidden mission, why the song? Ala got everything from the gov't. And he should put into cognizance that being free (e.g. via song, using indirect language ) to give offence does not mean you are wise to give offence, right?

Kai...maganar da yawa.

Later...
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Muhsin on August 08, 2009, 01:54:01 PM
Assalamu alaikum,

I heard on the news that Bashir Dandago and one other who sang Hasbunallah song were arrested yesterday. And the remaining folks are on chase and would soon be apprehended as well. Too bad for the fellows.
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Jibo on August 10, 2009, 11:46:00 AM
Quote from: Muhsin on August 08, 2009, 01:54:01 PM
Assalamu alaikum,
I heard on the news that Bashir Dandago and one other who sang Hasbunallah song were arrested yesterday. And the remaining folks are on chase and would soon be apprehended as well. Too bad for the fellows.

Before that, have you not heard that Rabo was summonned by the police to answer some questions based on some allegations made against him?

Is that arrest not related to Ala's case? Is this not bita da kulli? The Board shall make a clear distinction between Hausa Film Industry and Contemporary Hausa Lyrical Poets.

Besides Dandago was accused of releasing a song for public consumption without the blessing of the Board: read Sunday Trust, Please. I have already spoken about this above. Muhsin we are trying to be objective. I have not found any of the songs in the streets for sale or for public consumption! What the censorship Board is doing is...
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Muhsin on August 11, 2009, 11:31:17 AM
Quote from: Jibo on August 10, 2009, 11:46:00 AM
Before that, have you not heard that Rabo was summonned by the police to answer some questions based on some allegations made against him?

They are two entire different cases. The allegations were made by Kanywood trolls--saying he calls them lesbians, gays, fornicators and adulterers. Period.

QuoteIs that arrest not related to Ala's case? Is this not bita da kulli? The Board shall make a clear distinction between Hausa Film Industry and Contemporary Hausa Lyrical Poets.

Answered above.

QuoteBesides Dandago was accused of releasing a song for public consumption without the blessing of the Board: read Sunday Trust, Please. I have already spoken about this above. Muhsin we are trying to be objective. I have not found any of the songs in the streets for sale or for public consumption! What the censorship Board is doing is...

Is what? Feel free to explain it.

Moreover, whay should Dandago and Kabiru Maulana released that song without its being scrutinized by the Board? Are they new-comers in Kano? Nope. Then their action called for the Board's response I think, right?

Haven't I been objective?


Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Jibo on August 19, 2009, 01:46:35 PM
You can be fair if you really know the truth! It is difficult to deny an open truth!
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Muhsin on August 19, 2009, 02:46:01 PM
Quote from: Jibo on August 19, 2009, 01:46:35 PM
You can be fair if you really know the truth!

I don't know it here. :)

Quote from: Jibo on August 19, 2009, 01:46:35 PM
It is difficult to deny an open truth!

The truth is closed here.  ::)

But there is it. And someone somewhere knows it.

:D
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Jibo on August 20, 2009, 03:25:16 PM
Gaskiya ne! Allah Ya bamu ikon ganeta da yin aiki da ita!
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Muhsin on August 21, 2009, 11:56:39 AM
I said I don't know it there not to really mean I don't know it. But to suggest what you tacitly mean by saying "you can be fair if you really know the truth!"

LOL ;D
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Jibo on August 21, 2009, 03:11:01 PM
Ya Allah Ya iya mana! Muhsin, Kulba na barna sai a ce jaba bace! Ashe da sauran rina a kaba! Kasan dai mai kaza a aljihu baya jimirin asss!
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Muhsin on August 22, 2009, 11:53:25 AM
You had me grinning, Jibo. You are very funny.

Allah ya sa mu dace, amin.
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Jibo on August 22, 2009, 04:45:34 PM
Ya Allaah Ka iya mana,
karKa bari makiya su cimmana. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ya Allah kare mana,
Ya Allah sahale mana,
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Bashir Ahmad on January 07, 2010, 01:21:02 AM
Duk mai laifi ya sani ba sai ance ga laifinsa ba.
Title: Re: In Rana ta fito tafin hannu baya kareta!
Post by: Jibo on January 17, 2010, 08:20:57 PM
Haka ne tunda an ce kowabbata ya sani!Akwai masu ganin su sun tsarkaka kuma an yi musu izinin gyara al'umma ko da karfin yaya! Kuma har suna da ikon yafewa wadanda suka yi laifi ko da kuwa laifin Allah akai wa!