The Hausa Fulani and future

[Ibro2g]

I`m sorry I cant change it. it's changing...a tree two or three trees can`t make a forest. It`s sad.

[ummita]

Nah thats d way u c it..........but by mere facts u know 4 defo that, changes can b made indvidually, we gon' strive hard 2 c that changes do not affect our culture. D way I c it, u all r relating changes with sci-fi, well 2 b on ur side a lil we all know TECHNOLOGY has a great impact on alot of changes, but then IT vs Tradition and culture!!!!!!!! I dont think so. Give it a deep thinkin session

[nura]

Majority of Hausa Fulani, say some 95% are muslims and by virture of being that they have (or are supposed to have) as their tradition the tradition of the Holy Prophet (SAW) and as culture, the culture of the Holy Prophet (SAW) but there may be some differing areas considering the background may be in dressing, language, etc but centrally everything must be done according to Islamic Injunctions. From the above therefore as long as Islam exist the culture will be there, especially if the Muslims will follow the Prophet's (SAW) traditions and cultures.

And for the Hausa Fulani culture to continue to remain, it is left to you and I who are supposed to transfer them to the new generation. If we are willing but are we willing? a lot of things that used to be there, that we learnt from our parents are  no more there. These days our dressing, our mode of talking are americanised/europeanised and if we continue at this rate Islam will remain but hausa-fulani will be gone forever!

[Waziri]

Well to pick a pee from a joke ?Mr Chairman have speakED, The MC spokED now I am going to SPARK!?

Aminuddeen, FDQ, Good Fella, Katsinian , Hafsat , the poetic Ummita and Abu Mujahid. Good greetings!!!!!

It has been a lively discussion. To be more explicit about the topic of discussion, I think I understand the technology that comes with globalization to be different from GLOBALISM which is an aspect of globalization that seeks to provide the world with an entirely different culture, in order to rob individual cultural groups of their norms, values and identities. For those of us who were liberal enough with their sight to have watched the 1999 beauty pageant; a similar kind of activity that sparked the flames of mayhem recently in some parts of Nigeria. They would have seen how at the tail end of the program a Jewess wearing a frock as an evening dress was chosen as the one who wore the best evening dress among hundred others who deemed or "doomed" it necessary to wear a different dress of their respective cultures. Remember a gathering like that is always considered to be a gathering of the world. And we could see how a culture of wearing a frock as an evening dress was imposed on the rest, yes, "imposed" ? because it was said to be the best. Get the thought?! And see daily how the art of dressing half-naked is gaining ground across the globe. In the Arab world as well as Africa specifically Hausa Land, in fact if a lady wants to feel among ,she has to be ?gluttonous? in appearance. When Jennifer Lopez was asked about its legitimacy she said "It is not being immoral but rather knowing how to dress beautifully" and Lopez and Britney Spears are the models of many girls now in Hausa land, especially those who surf the net today trying to detect the highs and lows of music and musical industries.

In the academics which is the intellectual engine room of cultural survival, not only Hausa culture is being swept, but even our greater spiritual asset( Islam) as considered by Aminuddeen(and it is true) to be the spring-board of our more- than-noble-culture is being devastatingly attacked. I can still vividly remember how my social studies teachers, right from primary school days taught me to believe in the theory of evolution against my religious or cultural BACKground and FOREground; that man as an organic part of this universe is a product of chance. A chance; just a chance like that. Remember the theory? The Homo erectus, the home sapiens and(a little laugh) now MAN is said to be a homosexual. You see if we can all remember, this theory as proposed by Darwin, was what led to what today is known as "social darwinism" and social darwinism is the bedrock of CAPITALISM and SOCIALISM, the two philosophies that rule the world today and are in constant fight with our religion and system of values. And just imagine while the proponents of this belief/culture are hell-bent on propagating their ideologies through our text books Hausa-Fulani man is yet to even come-up with a very rich dictionary of Hausa/Fulani Language, talk less of a guide, a help that will make it easy for the Hausa speaking fellow to understand some complex ENglish /OUTglish words. NO! An emphatic NO!!! For Hausa man is busy marrying four wives, ?exploring varieties?. I can remember how our friend here Abu Mujahid invoked the help of other members of this forum before he could get the meaning of a FIG tree in Hausa. And also it is the proponents of this ideology that fill the net today with websites like Islamexposed.com or secularislam.org with views that are hard to crack. Anya kuwa ummita and Amin, don't u think that in the next hundred years our children and grandchildren who will become more attached to the net than we are today will find more reasons to subscribe to their views? ?Remember, Dan-Sokoto once mentioned how some of our ladies do marry non-Muslims. Don't you think in the next hundred years we will have more accumulations of such characters than we have now? This add to the fact that 90% percent of the publications of the 20th century were not publications of the Muslims and you will agree with me that over 90% of what is obtained on the net today is not Muslim-favoured substance talk less of Hausa-Fulani man. We are truly out-brained, out-brawned, out-gunned, out-skilled, out-moneyed, out-manned. Yes out-manned, for do we know that in the second half of the 19th century Muslims constituted one-third of the world population? How about now? Muslims now are only one sixth of the world population!!!! This renders the argument that Islam has increased over the centuries invalid.

I most note here that GLOBALISM did not start with the coming-up of the net and vision phones but I strongly believe that we are being infected with it faster through the unprecedented growth in modern technology. And it appears like we cannot help it. May be that is what informed the pessimism of Ibro and shedding of tears by Hafsat. ?True to God I fret too, for by day we loose our word power when it comes to speaking Hausa, we loose the Islamic Dress Code, we loose the Islamic values and upon all we define the Islamic Legal Theory in terms of the concepts provided by this new-demon-soul- impoverishing-robbing civilization.

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[nura]

I love this forum! you get educated everyday, perhaps that's why it is my home page. Waziri thanks so much and I think it is a duty upon us to ensure that our language, culture, tradition and most especially religion does become a pigment of history to the future generation. It is even a religious duty to ensure that your kids get the best of Islamic knowledge. These days children go to the modern school and when they come home the parent is only worried about their home work not the less than 2 hours they are supposed to use in the makarantar allo.

I remember how my mother refused to allow me take the common entrance examination without first graduating from the Islamic School. It is a duty upon us to train our children and believee me the best we can give them is the Islamic. Unfortunately we all think that our children will be better off with modern education, they'll be rich and contented and we'll then sleep well in our grave. We have all forgotten that every child is born with his wealth and fate. And we have forgotten about predestination which is an article of our faith. It is only when our future generation represented here by our children have the best Islamic Education that we can be sure of our norms and values, culture and traditions existing forever.

Once again Waziri thanks for reenergizing my resolve to ensure that my kids spend more time in Islamic schools than modern ones, especially these days that the two are combined in most schools.

[Anonymous]

Our culture is not going anywhere. You just dont understand. Even in my belive of things will never be thesame as yesterday. I cannot close my eyes and say all changes that are happening are not being adapted by culture!!. Yes I cant.

Changes happen, one can anticipate the changes, monitor the changes, adapt to these changes and then finally chnage, But the question is whos esponsibility is it to bring about changes in a society. If someone should change, why would you want to follow the changes. Eg: IT people are the onces changing and taking control over your life. IT was made or introduced by humans, so who is a huma to change other humans? What is he/she? We can all resist to changes. Supposin someone tells you to stick your hand into fire.....you can do it at your own free will or simply reject.
So will all the ranting and ravings those have put up accepting the changes is hausa/fulani culture with modernisation or globalisation or whatever is simply Nutsy............................

[Blaqueen]

oh well.. who cares about culture aniwayzzz??  ;D ok.. maybe many of u do... ::) but really... why panic? things are bound to change.. hopefully we wont loose our Islamic knowledge... and we wont change for the negative... Amen!

[MAG]

Tau a gaskiya duk kun ce wani abu. The time frame (100 yrs) you all are looking at is too short for any culture to vanish.

I believe culture is important as it defines who we are and who we call ours, but it is not at all as important as sticking to the islamic traditions. We all know that the Hausa/Fulani culture is now so inter-mingled with the islamic tradition that it is sometimes difficult to tell which is which.... bottom line is in time the differences will be picked out and believe it or not they will be dropped from what we call 'our culture' now, just like many others that have been dropped along the way because they contradict islam. Islam is a complete way of like, that governs how a person goes through this life... from what you speak to what you wear.... hey even how you go to the loo!!!

Take for example in the past which Hausa/Fulani family would send thier daughter out of the country to study?? Now how many of you all are out there.... (this was just an example)... in the strict hausa/fulani culture that would have been a definite 'NO, NO'.

Sadly, as much as we love to see our culture remain forever, it will not, the only thing that is here to stay is Islam and the traditions of the Holy Prophet (PBUH)... all the rest is secondary and hence expendable.

Ciao

[ummita]

Sadly, as much as we love to see our culture remain forever, it will not, the only thing that is here to stay is Islam and the traditions of the Holy Prophet (PBUH)... all the rest is secondary and hence expendable.
Ciao

Am with u MAG,......... but then if we dont want our culture in b off d track watwe gotta du?  I say....lets try 2 maintain it individually. How wud we feel if the next generation or ur kids dunno a nubble about his/her parents culture? Now how bad is that? (mutum bezei seni asalinsa ba kenan)!! Lets try & maitain & keep it goin...so that the next generation will know of our culture, so that our culture will not b lost in history.  

Yeah, I agree with all d facts y'all have brought 4ward..but its  not that... ::) ...oh well we just have 2 accept changes, or oh well technology...oh next 100yrs modernising & civilisation........so on & so forth. But guys hang it 4 a bit. If we resist 2 changes then they will not happen, when we want it 2 happen then it will. Its like growing up in some place in d outskirts of  China, & not knowing ur family gerantion, clothes they wear, wat they eat how they speak their cultures, norms & beliefs. Now how shameful is that? So I say we shud try...but 4 those that want techowateva, moderwateva & even globalisation shud go ahead & change culture...but they shud feel guity about it..cuz their forefathers did leave behind the culture u & I grew up. So y deprive d next gen. by subjectin 2 Glo, Mod & Teach!?

[Anonymous]

Amma naji dadin bin wannan tataunawa!! Very interesting!!
I know most of the important points and graet ideas have been mentioned!! I was just wondering while I read thru the beutiful posts going by the poetic ummita ( I saw that here) and Fynme dyme; ni a gani na , ain't ther possibiliies that we hada da globa, techno ko ma meye with da culture?!!!!
Now wat Iam saying here is; I believe there are alot of good cultured fulani-hausa ppl that have excelled in different professions and are stilled well cultured. Akwai hadaddun firms da u will find most of the staff are hausa in fact even administrative instructions are made in hausa and it runs smoothly not 2 talk of dressing. Ina ganin ummita is ryte, we need to maintain ko ma a ina muka samu kanku @ da same time accomodating those changes but 2 suit our highly valued culture

[Ummulhuda]

The only culture worth maintaining in this strife and stress driven world is the culture of Islam. Any other culture can go dump itself into the rubbish bin of history. It is not a necessity in life.

[Waziri]

Well, interesting indeed. Atleast we  r making a way forward but Ummulhuda and MAG are optimistic about our Islamic identity but I still ask : 'how far can optimism take us?'  Lets have something more concrete than hope. Remember this is  reality, REALITY as in what eyes can see and hands can touch. We are going extinct!!!!! Not only the Hausa-Fulani but their religion and system of values. Lets get something more concrete. BY GOD I FRET!!!

Waziri

[ummita]

Any other culture can go dump itself into the rubbish bin of history. It is not a necessity in life.

Errr......Waziri I dont think neither Ummul nor MAG were objectin 2 culture vs Islam.

Infact I think we did diverse or shud I say we got d wrong ideas, The topic was more of like fulds/hausa vs Teachnology...I realised this when I read it ova again

Ummul recap...wat did u juss say,not a necessity: Bin culture  in d bin!! Huh?!!!! :o I f u r hausa or fulds or eny other tribe huda dear, then wats d point of clamin 2 b of d tribe group if u say necessity doesnt count, Theres simply no point.

Min kam, culture is a big necessity.......menene amfanin culture iden ba abin de kina ciki ba..
I do agree with some of your points. but y shud we dump it in d bin. 4 all I care I aint.

Agree 2 disagree abun de kinar feda is like lets put side our culture, 4get it, pretend as it neva xsisted, remove great ppl in d books of history, throw norms, values, beliefs in 2 d bin. Its like throwin gr8t leaders away ppl like d sardauna (as I read from other topics, he was a gud leader).....its like everything man!!!. Wats d point of a human being livin a life without culture, without knowing who is he or she. Not knowing anything, whether he belongs to anything!!!!!!!. but juss wondering around d world.

Without culture, K-ONLINE cant & wudnt even think of representin arewanz, northerners 4 there will b no culture they will or can adopt 2 hold their head up hihg.

For I am glad 2 have a culture & 4 eva I willb a proud culture maintainer. For it gives e great pleasure & 2 pride 2 represent a culture or tribe origin :D Therefore....I go keep my culture close to the heart.

Ummul U've got 2 rominate. Put urself in a deep thinkin session; I know u will reconsider (she laffs).

& 4 now I will hold ma peace & say no more. Wannan topic din.......if eni1 oppose I give up....move with changes & I go maintain: As simple as that

[Blaqueen]

The only culture worth maintaining in this strife and stress driven world is the culture of Islam. Any other culture can go dump itself into the rubbish bin of history. It is not a necessity in life.

LoL!!!!that's really funny but kinda true...

and as for Religion... western Muslims are more into Islam and pratice it at the moderate level the Prophet talked about. Amma, in the east and some peeps in the North... it's DECLINING or kinda too extreme!!!!!

it wont be a problem if our culture evolves.. the world is Dynamic... everything's changing... as long as we use the Qur'an as a guideline.... i'm all for change!

[MAG]

Point of correction FDQ.... the Qu'ran and the Sunnah as our guide, for we cannot explain all the Qu'ran on our own without the sunnah.

A lot of words have been said on this topic... The way i see it, its not a matter of whether i want to preserve my culture or not. The fact is both my culture and islam are ways of life... so one has to give way to the other. eg... in the past could you even think of shaking the hand of your fathers friend? Islam says the best way to greet another MUSLIM irrespective of age (males ofcourse) is by shaking his hand and looking him in his eyes. So where do we find ourselves? One has to give way to the other and thats it.

Talking about technology kuma tau!!! That is completely up to us.... technology is here only to make life easier for us and whether we like it or not it is here to stay. I dont see how having a mobile phone will stop me from wearing baban riga or from eating tuwon dawa da miyan kuka. And it just doesn't make sense that i ride a horse from Kano to Kaduna and not a car because riding a horse is my culture.