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Yoruba Land

QuoteWhat was the nature of sammy's and usman11's accusations against Islam? In general you will agree that they accused muslims and their prophet Muhammed of being violent people.

This is not true, you now quite well they attack the person of the prophet and other symbols of Islam but yet you try to compare them with Waziri. Waziri did not complain about this but it does not mean it is not so. You too are like these people with hatred against Islam. If not for people like Waziri on this forum, only God knows what you people will say against Islam.

QuoteYorubaland, you and otehr muslims found this very insulting, and this is natural. But here Waziri is telling us that the Jewish religion of today is racist and violent, and virtually inspires all of the Jews' violent actions. Now is there really much difference b/w Waziri's charges and those of sammy and usman11?

I do not have time to be contributing to the forum very much. I would have engaged you more seriously. You know you admitted of not knowing much of Jewish religion. What Waziri says about them is what they don't deny about themselves. Sammy and Usman tell lies against Muslims in a very insulting manner. I remember Usman11 did even apologised to Waziri at a time, having realised the true value of the legend.


QuoteSure Waziri backed his position with facts, but so did the others!

Which others? What facts? when you don't know most of what is being talked about when it is discussed.

QuoteWhat I was trying to show Waziri was that he did not suffer the sort of aversion that sammy and usman11 did; at least not from me. At no point did I ever call him names. All I did was to factually disprove what was an attack on the Torah which I also hold sacred. Now with sammy and usman11, no-one bothered to disprove anything they said factually; all they got was censore and insult!

This is a pure lie! Usman11 was challenged seriously by Waziri to prove his points and when he was unable, he started abusing people, so was Sammy. Hey! I read this board everyday! Nothing new you can tell me.

Ete doesn't even have credibility, he even lied about his faith claiming to be a Muslim. Most of you, including Usman11 and Sammy are like him. You have no credibility and we will not tolerate you here again!!!

*~MuDa~*

Well i think i should take it from here coz it sems things are begining to get a little bit out of hand. before they get ugly, we should just learn to sort out our differences while watching critically what we say and how we say it to each other. i have not really read the thread but i have gone through the discussion.

All i'm trying to make u guys avoid is that when u get into delicate religious arguement like this u have to be very careful of what to say so as not to admit blasphemous things or insultive and derogatory words to ur counterparts. we all are muslims so i cant see how on earth some of us will have "hatred against Islam".

So we should be carefull enough not instigate fury into our noble and peaceful forum wich was created in order to streghtened the bond of brotherhood among muslims, christians, kano people, nijans and the world at large. Do i make my self clear?
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*~MuDa~*

Well i think i should take it from here coz it sems things are begining to get a little bit out of hand. before they get ugly, we should just learn to sort out our differences while watching critically what we say and how we say it to each other. i have not really read the thread but i have gone through the discussion.

All i'm trying to make u guys avoid is that when u get into delicate religious arguement like this u have to be very careful of what to say so as not to admit blasphemous things or insultive and derogatory words to ur counterparts. we all are muslims so i cant see how on earth some of us will have "hatred against Islam".

So we should be carefull enough not instigate fury into our noble and peaceful forum wich was created in order to streghtened the bond of brotherhood among muslims, christians, kano people, nijans and the world at large. Do i make my self clear?
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lionger

Muda,
I hear you loud and clear. You are right. There have been many religious threads of late on the forum, most of which I would not have taken part in had ppl not bashed Christianity/Christians or misrepresented their Bible in those threads. Such issues have necessitated my response; but even then I've tried to keep my comments appropriate. That's why I've asked Yoruba Land (and for that matter, anyone else) to point out those posts where I bashed Waziri and called him all sorts of names. Rather than do that, he continues to misread my posts and cast all sorts of unwarranted asperations on my person. I'm sorry that this thread has has taken such an unsavoury turn, but once again I had to defend myself against unfair accusations. I mean, just look at Yoruba Land's posts here in contrast to mine! Anyways, I will not respond in kind so as not to disturb the tranquility of this chit-chat forum. Thanks Muda, God bless.

Off I go to the 'Make me laugh' thread  :P

HUSNAA

Let's have peace in peace not in pieces pls. Controvertial issues always manage to boil my blood, give me palpitations and a migraine.
Keep chit chat just that.
Heavy duty topics should be firmly quarantined at the general board.
Ghafurallahi lana wa lakum

*~MuDa~*

Lionger,

Zat is how we are suffose to behabe, am imfressed by ur sense op maturity. i beliebe it will remain at zat, no more religious "beefs". As husna futs it..."it boils my blood and gives me palpitations and a migrane"

Anyway i know is zat copper that is resfonsible. Make ze cold op ze Jos Flateau entangle and embrace ze naked plesh op your pysical anatomy ip you start zis kind op pire again.

Ameen!
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Yoruba Land

Hey Muda, Husna,

If you cannot stop these people from making foolish claims you have no right to say I should not attempt to stop them. Don't you see what the other guy, Ete, is doing at the general board? Go and talk to him before coming to spit on me. Lionger is loosing that is why he is keeping shut but given the chance, he too will insult Islam and its Prophet as the others are doing. Better get a life!!!

HUSNAA

Ustaz Yoruba Land.
I really appreciate yr feelings towards the insensitive way some members of this forum write about us muslims and what we cherish. But believe me behaving in kind only makes matters worse. Nothing gets achieved except ill feeling on all sides, no one learns anything, no one wins. That is why we must keep our tempers in check and try reasoning in a polite manner with who ever we may consider as an antagonist. I am telling you that being polite rubs off on ppl especially if  not being so shows them off as gauche crass and immature. So if you feel someone is being nasty, tell them so and demand they curb their language or whatever, but try not to act likewise, because it doesnt make u any better.
I must admit that I havent read the waziri - lionger posts concerning israel etc after my own meagre contributions. Its heady and weighty stuff and frankly I havent the energy or inclination to do so. Therefore I cannot say anything to contradict yr accusations against lionger in particular. However I must say that you are not being fair to him, because in so far as I have read Lionger's posts, I have always found that he has been sensitive to the feelings of the many muslims on this forum and his posts have been very comradely.
Now I cannot say the same about Ete, but lately I have noticed that his posts are much calmer than they used to be and he addresses ppl more politely than he was wont to. Surely that can't have been the effect of mutual mudslinging can it?
Having written thus, I still reiterate that chitchat should be kept as a light weight forum where one comes to unwind and have a good laugh and some candy floss talk. Any jittery vibes u want to address can be done so on the general board.
Ghafurallahi lana wa lakum

*~MuDa~*

Quote from: "HUSNAA"I still reiterate that chitchat should be kept as a light weight forum where one comes to unwind and have a good laugh and some candy floss talk. Any jittery vibes u want to address can be done so on the general board.

Ah! Husnaa...do me a pabour and say it in Yoruba...may be it will helf..LOL! Just Kiddin'
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Fateez



Thanx Mudacris and Husnaa, for a minute there i thot chit chat was goin2

be converted into another general board. I dont think i can handle all da

topics up there, man! As if da world isnt sad enough as it is...*sigh*

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect."    ~ Mark Twain


HUSNAA

Quote from: "Fateez"

Thanx Mudacris and Husnaa, for a minute there i thot chit chat was goin2

be converted into another general board. I dont think i can handle all da

topics up there, man! As if da world isnt sad enough as it is...*sigh*



LOL :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Ghafurallahi lana wa lakum

*~MuDa~*

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lionger


*~MuDa~*

Seriously Linoger i dont think it is your pault por u were only on ze depencing side.
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Fateez

I dunno who to complain to...

Out of boredom and joblessness, i decided to go thru da new topics on da

general board. There r some really sexist remarks up there. I'm a bit

sensitive to issues like dat and if i shud go into arguements about these

issues it cud last 4ever. i mean i know u r only trying state ur opinion and

i respect that but please remember this is an open forum and there are

people from different aspects of life who might find some comments

offensive.
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect."    ~ Mark Twain