NIGERIA, NIGERIA WHY!!!

amira · September 21, 2006, 07:15:32 PM

Quote:
Bakan gizo wrote:
Hmmn.! Most said that and yet failed/refused to come back.

ME refuse to come back to nigeria, NEVA are you ppl forgetting that nigeria is my homeland and where i was born and
so how can i say i will not return.
Not all ppl are the same.

Karin magana but in english:
just cos your hand smells, it doesn't mean you
that you will cut it of and throw it away.

Barde · September 28, 2006, 05:28:23 PM

Danyaro,

My opinion is that the right policies are there but what we lack are right-minded leaders that can implement such policies.

You gave an example of expatriates who are here but absorbed by the system. Take for instance, the Petroleum sector, by law, DPR is a unit under the petroleum resources ministry whose sole responsibility is to police the oil sector(both upstream and downstream) but they have not been given adequate tools to carryout such functions effectively. They are suppose to monitor and ensure every bid of the oil activity is been conducted acordingly. For example, because they dont have a helicopter of their own, they normally wait for the companies to come and carry their personnel to offshore in the name of inspecting what is going on, based on that, the oil companies are doing what they like. With a good leader, DPR will be empowered to check-mate the oil companies thereby making the entire sector viable. I belief Nigeria can be a great nation, if every sector can be empowered to perform its responsibilities effectively. Dont get me wrong, am not referring to Obj's "reform" policies wo!

Not that the bad things which hinder Nigeria's progress dont exist in europe and other countries but what keeps them going is the law, once anybody is caught violating any law, he wont be left unpunished.

Amira,

You ambigiously responded to our comments, how come you seems to agree with everybody? and how can you do more things from outside the country?

amira · September 28, 2006, 06:32:22 PM

Sannu barde :)

i tend to agree with ppl but not 100% only if wat they are saying in a way is kinda true cos there can be SOME useful points eg quote:

"Good Amira!Pple here are not ready to help matters. I suppose Barde's statement was originally made by Buhari. But, c how they dealt with Buhari of all ppl. I seriously support your views. Get what you want there and come back later. If u get job there stay. Don't come back until pple are ready to join u for a change. Remember that even God help those who wants to help themselves".

i agree with him bout get i what i want hia the cum back as in ma education, cos if you think about it, education is the key, if you dont have it then you can get anywhere koyaka ce?? but then i dont agree with him bout not comin back cos thats the whole point am hia to be educated and come back and meet sum ppl that want to see a change so that we can work this problem out together.
And from your 2q mark on how i can do more things from out the country...well that aint excatly possible but like i answered this from one of my posts that yes its possible for me to do more from outside the country again by gaining the knowledge from ma studies without all theses strikes that happen in nigeria.

hope you've got the idea and also hope i have answered your q marks well :wink:

HUSNAA · September 29, 2006, 08:14:46 AM

The problem with Nigeria is that once u are out of it, u want to get back there; once u are back in, u want to get out, bcos reality of life in nigeria hits u hard. :?
To Allah Ya Kyauta.

Barde · September 29, 2006, 11:33:54 AM

Amira,

Kinyi gaskiya, i now understood what you meant but if i got Sdanyaro right, he said you can do more things for your community while working there, which i doubt you can. May be he can throw some more light on how somebody can do more things for his community back home while staying in diaspora.

Just concentrate and finish your studies, then come back and lets join hands to make our country great. Is just that as a woman, you have some restrictions but we will find where to fix you inshaAllah. Good luck.

Barde · September 29, 2006, 11:44:42 AM

Quote from: "HUSNAA"The problem with Nigeria is that once u are out of it, u want to get back there; once u are back in, u want to get out, bcos reality of life in nigeria hits u hard. :?

Is not always the case. Am back and for a moment i haven't thought of going back.

_Waziri_ · September 29, 2006, 12:51:07 PM

Am, Barde,

I think Danyaro is right. The problem of Nigerian nation is beyond an individual or individuals. Leader or follower. No. But the system, the Nigerian nation itself as an administrative entity. That is, it makes it very difficult for its people to manage it.

Nigerians both leaders and followers are good. God is not partial to have created bad people in the geography called Nigeria as oppossed to good ppl elsewhere, say. America, England or Malaysia. NO. But it the Nigeria that is bad. It is like nothing good can be made out of it. Wallahu a'alam.

_Waziri_ · September 29, 2006, 12:54:24 PM

Quote from: "Barde"
Quote from: "HUSNAA"The problem with Nigeria is that once u are out of it, u want to get back there; once u are back in, u want to get out, bcos reality of life in nigeria hits u hard. :?
Is not always the case. Am back and for a moment i haven't thought of going back.

Barde,

By your location, it is lyk you are working in the oil sector, as such you wouldn't want go back. My cousins working in that sector too do not think of leaving. :wink: :lol:

Barde · September 30, 2006, 03:46:13 PM

Quote from: "_Waziri_"Am, Barde,

I think Danyaro is right. The problem of Nigerian nation is beyond an individual or individuals. Leader or follower. No. But the system, the Nigerian nation itself as an administrative entity. That is, it makes it very difficult for its people to manage it.

Nigerians both leaders and followers are good. God is not partial to have created bad people in the geography called Nigeria as oppossed to good ppl elsewhere, say. America, England or Malaysia. NO. But it the Nigeria that is bad. It is like nothing good can be made out of it. Wallahu a'alam.

Haba waz, its like you've giving up already, i still hold the opinion that since our problems have been identified, they are half solved, we all have role(s) to play in salvaging the country, so let us contribute our quater sincerely and we will be find inshaAllah. So many countries have gone through the mess that is happening here but with patriotism, they have achieved success. I dont know why our case should be different. You have acknowledged the fact that God has endowed Nigeria with good people, why then do you think the system cannot be changed?

Barde · September 30, 2006, 04:37:10 PM

Quote from: "_Waziri_"

Barde,

By your location, it is lyk you are working in the oil sector, as such you wouldn't want go back. My cousins working in that sector too do not think of leaving. :wink: :lol:

Waziri,

Thats very funny :lol: :lol: :lol:, you got it wrong, anyway. If there is anybody that needs a change of environment, its me. This is because my life is been threatened at all times (at work, at home and everywhere) by the socalled 'emancipators' of indigines of Niger Delta, to cut the story short, its not safe for me to go out after 7pm, i belief you know the situation in Niger Delta; hostage taking, arm robbery etc. I would've run long ago, if not that my profession wouldn't allow me to work in any part of Nigeria except Niger Delta.

Alhamdulillah, am being paid well but that's not the reason why i haven't thought of going back, i have my priorities which i weigh before taking any decision. What am after is to see how i can benefit my locality in particular and Nigeria in general, the best way to do it is to stay back, and considering the fact that the only way to benefit my community from abroad is by sending money at the expense of some necessasities over there, moreover, the expectations are too high, people thought once you are there, shikenan, you are in heaven, not knowing that one must work in atleast two different places before getting enough money to send home, in a nutshell, things are not as easy over there as people think. Is just that they have surpass the situation we are in long ago, hence their system is going smoothly. With patriotism, inshaAllah, we will reach where they are, if not in our generation, certainly in the next generation.

mlbash · September 30, 2006, 05:04:41 PM

Quote from: "HUSNAA"The problem with Nigeria is that once u are out of it, u want to get back there; once u are back in, u want to get out, bcos reality of life in nigeria hits u hard. :?
To Allah Ya Kyauta.

that's sounds rather an undecisive mind!

neozizo · October 01, 2006, 02:11:57 PM

Its good to hear some optimism and patriotism about Nigeria for a change.

Quote from: "_Waziri_
"I think Danyaro is right. The problem of Nigerian nation is beyond an individual or individuals. Leader or follower. No. But the system, the Nigerian nation itself as an administrative entity. That is, it makes it very difficult for its people to manage it.

Nigerians both leaders and followers are good. God is not partial to have created bad people in the geography called Nigeria as oppossed to good ppl elsewhere, say. America, England or Malaysia. NO. But it the Nigeria that is bad. It is like nothing good can be made out of it. Wallahu a'alam.

Youv raised an interesting point. I always thought that the Nigerian nation found her self in the mess she's in today due to some actions and/or inactions of her citizens, both leaders and followers-people who have shaped the course of the system of administration we practice.
Could u pls shed more light on the concept of ?administrative entity? as the root or genesis of the present woeful situations we find our selfves today and how its possible to change for the better from point of view of reorganizing the system?

_Waziri_ · October 15, 2006, 03:02:08 PM

Zizo,

I am sori 4 d seemingly late reply. What I mean by it is Nigeria that's wrong is nothing more than the truth that the country lacks any foundational definition, identity melting point and single spritual tendency.

You see, no nation ever developed in the history of the world without an owner and Nigeria is without an owner.

Take for example the USA, it's claim is always that the nation is WASP, meaning Western-Anglo-Saxon-Protestant.

For Malaysia, it is first, Malay, then, Muslim.

For China it is first, Han's then Bhudhist.

For India, it is first Hindustan, then Hindu by religion.

For Iran, it is first, Farsi then, Shiite Muslim.

For Saudi Arabia, it is first, Arab then, Sunni, Hanbalite Muslim.

But how about Nigeria? What is it? Who or which single culture owns it?

You see, the beginning of wisdom is to know who you are, where you come from, and then, what you are suppose to do.

Nations are like humanbeings and once an individual cannot define who they are they begin to find problems so also nations. A nation without clearcut self defintion is a nation where nothing good can thrive. This is the reason why I concluded that it is not Nigerians that are bad, and that God has never been partial to have created bad people in the country called Nigeria. And that it is the Nigeria that is bad. a nation without, self defintion, no single identity and direction.

_Waziri_ · October 15, 2006, 03:30:59 PM

Quote from: "Barde"
Quote from: "_Waziri_"Am, Barde,

I think Danyaro is right. The problem of Nigerian nation is beyond an individual or individuals. Leader or follower. No. But the system, the Nigerian nation itself as an administrative entity. That is, it makes it very difficult for its people to manage it.

Nigerians both leaders and followers are good. God is not partial to have created bad people in the geography called Nigeria as oppossed to good ppl elsewhere, say. America, England or Malaysia. NO. But it the Nigeria that is bad. It is like nothing good can be made out of it. Wallahu a'alam.

Haba waz, its like you've giving up already, i still hold the opinion that since our problems have been identified, they are half solved, we all have role(s) to play in salvaging the country, so let us contribute our quater sincerely and we will be find inshaAllah. So many countries have gone through the mess that is happening here but with patriotism, they have achieved success. I dont know why our case should be different. You have acknowledged the fact that God has endowed Nigeria with good people, why then do you think the system cannot be changed?

Barde,

If you'll read the line of identification of the problem I highlighted above to zizo what solution should we give? Do you think we should give the Nation an Igbo identity, culture and worldview or Yoruba? Why not a Hausa Muslim identity?

_Waziri_ · October 15, 2006, 03:33:52 PM

Quote from: "Barde"
Quote from: "_Waziri_"

Barde,

By your location, it is lyk you are working in the oil sector, as such you wouldn't want go back. My cousins working in that sector too do not think of leaving. :wink: :lol:

Waziri,

Thats very funny :lol: :lol: :lol:, you got it wrong, anyway. If there is anybody that needs a change of environment, its me. This is because my life is been threatened at all times (at work, at home and everywhere) by the socalled 'emancipators' of indigines of Niger Delta, to cut the story short, its not safe for me to go out after 7pm, i belief you know the situation in Niger Delta; hostage taking, arm robbery etc. I would've run long ago, if not that my profession wouldn't allow me to work in any part of Nigeria except Niger Delta.

Alhamdulillah, am being paid well but that's not the reason why i haven't thought of going back, i have my priorities which i weigh before taking any decision. What am after is to see how i can benefit my locality in particular and Nigeria in general, the best way to do it is to stay back, and considering the fact that the only way to benefit my community from abroad is by sending money at the expense of some necessasities over there, moreover, the expectations are too high, people thought once you are there, shikenan, you are in heaven, not knowing that one must work in atleast two different places before getting enough money to send home, in a nutshell, things are not as easy over there as people think. Is just that they have surpass the situation we are in long ago, hence their system is going smoothly. With patriotism, inshaAllah, we will reach where they are, if not in our generation, certainly in the next generation.

OK tunda hakane muyi musanyen aiki. Kai ka dawo university a Arewa and be safe. Myself will replace you at NLG? :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink: