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General Board / Re: RELIGION :Problem Of Mankind
« on: February 14, 2004, 05:45:40 AM »
I think you read a little too much into Dave's comments. He said religious intolerance was the greatest of evils, not religion itself. Perhaps u are uncomfortable w/ his choice of religious intolerance as the worst form of intolerance, ahead of tribalism. Nevertheless I still think u may have extracted what wasn't there..


Mr. Guest and Lionger should not turn a blind eye to the truth. The above three contributions are coherent and consistent, all aimed at explicating the fact that the adverseries of Islam commits lots more attrocities against the believers and make the loudest noises making complains and claims.

Islam is a religion of peace. The Muslims today are being made endengered species and have to, seeking for survival, protect themselves.
Despite these monumental persecutions and condemnations Allah (SWT) will make His true religion dominate all others with time.

Mr. Dave is talking about getting rid of religious intolerance in the world. What I get from your comments is an attempt to exonerate Islam's adherents from this offense, and shift most of the blame to other faiths like Christianity. Well that is certainly an amusing but thoroughly ineffective attitude that defeats the purpose IMO. They say the first step to solving a problem is admitting it.

So let's talk about the truth. I have a question for you sir: What is the state of religious tolerance in what most of us would consider the 'muslim world'?

General Board / Re: RELIGION :Problem Of Mankind
« on: February 13, 2004, 08:51:05 PM »
I second the above opinion  ::)

General Board / Re: DO U AGREE OR DISAGREE
« on: March 04, 2004, 06:10:55 PM »
Guduma, why are you resurrecting these old threads?

General Board / Re: DO U AGREE OR DISAGREE
« on: June 22, 2003, 05:39:49 AM »
Well said Fulanicious. We shouldn't throw away the baby with the bathwater. And seriously, after observing the West's painful destruction - or as they would liike to call it, 'redefinition' - of the family structure, I think this is one point on which we can afford to give ourselves a LITTLE pat on the back.

General Board / Re: DO U AGREE OR DISAGREE
« on: June 05, 2003, 06:02:13 PM »

I for one won't hesitate to spank a child when the occassion calls for it.

i guess that's vintage 'mama lagos' attitude lol

General Board / Re: DO U AGREE OR DISAGREE
« on: May 18, 2003, 07:05:21 AM »
Obviously this is a cultural issue; westerners say its child abuse, nigerians call it discipline. I think it could be either depending on the circumstances.

Spanking definitely has its place, but I think it should be sanctioned by the level/nature of the child's offense. I mean, children should not be beaten for failing their exams, like someone mentioned here. And I think it should be a last resort; not for every flimsly misbehavior.

Secondlyly, I also think that the manner in which the spanking is done/ instruments used is very important also. This is what makes the ultimate difference between 'spanking' and plain abuse. I've seen some ppl using whatever their hands could find (belt, shoe, extension cord), or both hands and feet, to knock their children around. I think spanking should be focused on one part of the body, like the hand, butt or back, and it should not be overdone, i.e. bleeding, swelling is clearly unacceptable.

One of my western friends told me that africans spank their children as the easy way out. I think its true in some cases, but after observing some of these american/canadian children for a while, I think a good dose of our sadistic secondary school teachers is well in order. Lack of respect, blatant immorality, in some cases shooting up the place -  yea, i think a good 25 lashes on the bottocks should do them good lol. I dunno if I'll spank my kids; it depends on where i end up. If I settle in Nigeria, then yes. If in the West, then of course not. We have to be aware/accomodating of cultural differences.Plus there are many other ways of punishing children u know.

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