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almagiranchi what a useless and sensless culture
« on: April 01, 2006, 03:36:30 PM »
It hurts me deep inside how we sit and watch things happen without voicing out and trying to stop them when we know that such practices can be dealt with and stopped. I still dont know why we havent risen up against the issue of almagiranchi. we say we are moslems and that we belive in being our brothers keeper then why arent we standing up for issues that will really show that we indeed are moslems and are our brothers keepers?very unfortunately for us we have a very very sensless and meaningless government and leaders(northern leaders) that have being lying to us and decieving us. instead of dealing with real issues they are just there using religion as a tool to decieve us and make us do what they want us to do for them instead of tackling the things that will better our lives, they are busy bringing policies that have no dirtect bearing on us as human beings. why should we fold our arms and watch the lives of million of our childern being destroyed for nothing? why should we sit down and watch our future leaders turn in to criminals because of some stupid traditon that has no use to us all?Almajiranchi ya dade yana chi mana tuwo a kwarya .
Islam is in every way against almagiranchi so why do we fold our arms and do things that islam does not condone.An average almajiri's life is just a dangerous disaster because his life is completely worthless and of no value to him as a person, some of us treat and respect our animals more that we do the almajiri, we value our animals more that we value the average almajiri. an average almajiri does not know love because he has never been shown love in his live he does not know tolerance because he has never been shown any in his life . i was walking down the streets of kano one day when a saw this almajiri of about 8 years old on the ground seriously bleeding because of a very big injury he sustained, upon all the pain and trouble he was in his fellow almajirai were beating him and blaming him for sustaning that kind of injury. when they themselve knew that he sustained the injury accidentally (because he was running and he fell). i just gave this illustaration to show us how an average almajiri thinks. because of they hardship and suffering he is going through, he thinks and behaves like a wild animal cos all he knows and sees is evil. all what the almajiri gets from the people around him is total disregard,disrespect, lack of care and attention and thats how he grows thinking thats how the life is people treat them as if they were some animals and they grow out to be animals. my personal research has shown me that these almajiraia do not really get to accomplish their primary assingment which is learning the koran and abiding by its laws thats their primay assingment . an end should be put to these all because its not just knowing the koran thats makes u a moslem its knowing the koran and abiding by its laws and principles that makes you a moslem they almajiri just goes around learing the holy koran and not practising and applying what it teaches in his life because it doesnt make sense to him and the situation he is in wont allow him to understand the life he is living talkless of abiding by the laws and priciple of the holy koran. so what are we talking about here what is the use of all these non sense? why cant we just allow these children grow up in their parents houses and learn the way life is because there they will learn how to love, tolerance, and how to be law abiding.
An average almajiri does not know love
An average almajiri does not know tolerance
An average almajiri does not know how to be law abiding
An average almajiri does not have respect for others
An average almajiri does not know honesty
An average almajiri does not know cleaniness and tydiness
An average almajiri is a thief
An average almajiri is a liar
An average almajiri is a treat to the society
so if an almajiri posseses all these dangerous attributes then why do we still have them on the streets? we argue that there are there to learn the koran but they dont abide by the very laws and principles the koran teaches which i listed above. these useless culture should be stopped are there no moslems amongst the yorubas? why arent they invove in this evil parctice? are we not in the same country and going through the same economic hard ship? its time all of us notherners sit back and reflect on these menace and try to find a way of dealing with it because weather we like it or not it affects us either dircetly or indirectly. instaed of our leaders doing things that are of no importance to the people they should try to see that they put and end to this useless culture and practice
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Re: almagiranchi what a useless and sensless culture
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2007, 06:27:26 PM »
really surprised nobody has contributed anything to this powerful and compelling thread.
"corgito ergo sum"

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Re: almagiranchi what a useless and sensless culture
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2007, 05:56:14 PM »
Islam is in every way against almagiranchi so why do we fold our arms and do things that islam does not condone.An average almajiri's life is just a dangerous disaster because his life is completely worthless and of no value to him as a person, some of us treat and respect our animals more that we do the almajiri, we value our animals more that we value the average almajiri. an average almajiri does not know love because he has never been shown love in his live he does not know tolerance because he has never been shown any in his life .

Haba, malam, that is too much for almajiri, where did you come across that Islam is in every way against almajiranchi? may be the almajiranci you are talking about is quite different from the almajiranchi I attended.

The Almajiranchi you seem to despise is a complete institution, just like any other institution, you must find those who bastardise it.  We have attended universities, what happens today in our universities cannot be compared with what an almajiri has done.

Have you forgotten cultism? is that what is being taught at the UNiversity? No?
Could you remember your friends taking ganja?

Look, my brother, instead of you completely grounding almajiranchi, why dont you call for a complete reform, to a millennium compliant.

Let me tell you what you might have known.  Sir Ahmadu Bello is a product of Almajiri, Sir Tafawa Balewa is a product of Almajiri, Shehu Shagari is a product of Almajiri, Maitama Sule (Dan Masani) was once an Almajiri name them, even yourself, except if you have not studied the Holy Qur'an, you must have been an almajiri.

Brother call for a reform, we will support you.
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Re: almagiranchi what a useless and sensless culture
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2007, 11:14:13 PM »
Dan Borno, please, when you come up with a human rights compliant version of almajiranci let me know and I will be your chief information disseminator - the socialist ideal in it is a good thing - until then,or until fatwa on the topic tells me otherwise I stand by Dan Mama - it  causes more sorrow than it imparts knowledge.

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Re: almagiranchi what a useless and sensless culture
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2007, 02:07:56 PM »
it  causes more sorrow than it imparts knowledge.

Haba, you contradicted your name, did you say it causes more sorrow than it imparts knowledge? sorry, go back and trace your history.  I dont know how we will travel up to China when........
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Re: almagiranchi what a useless and sensless culture
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2007, 06:48:04 PM »
why cant we just allow these children grow up in their parents houses and learn the way life is because there they will learn how to love, tolerance, and how to be law abiding.
An average almajiri does not know love
An average almajiri does not know tolerance
An average almajiri does not know how to be law abiding
An average almajiri does not have respect for others
An average almajiri does not know honesty
An average almajiri does not know cleaniness and tydiness
An average almajiri is a thief
An average almajiri is a liar
An average almajiri is a treat to the society
I guess then all our leaders diidnt grow up in their homes and they were almajirais by this analysis.
kowa da yar gaskiya acikin abinda ya fada,amma Danmama is way too extreme in his views lumping all almijirai as worthless,heartless,thieving lot.I think we are throwing away the "baby with the bath water" instead of reforming the system or even abolition it.
Kuma Dan-Barno ya fadi wani abu quite applicable to our western educated brothers,who truth be told,are the architects and engineers of all the mess we are in.For eample if an almajiri is a petty thief,our university educated governors and executives count thier loot in millions and billions
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Re: almagiranchi what a useless and sensless culture
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2007, 09:17:23 PM »
Although Dan Mama’s observations are justifiable, I rather  believe his accusations or description of almajirai are rather too sweeping .There are exceptions. There are some hardworking almajirais that do domestic chores or odd jobs in market like dako and wanke-wanke for food/wages,but I grant such are in the minority.
As pointed out some of our great past leaders where once almajirai. My father has told me how his life has been positively influenced by the experiences he had whilst doing almajiranci years ago.
These days of course it is very unfortunate how the noble character-molding system has been turned on its head and reduced to the sorry state it is today.
Instead of gaining good education children pick up all sorts of anti-social behaviors.
Instead of acquiring good character they have inferiority complex and other bad traits.

I noticed Dan Mama (though acurately analysing a problem is half its solution)did not offer a tangible solution to this social malaise but rather the only person to do so was rebuked.
I agree with Dan Borno, the system should be reformed (as short term solution) and gradually phased-out as we no have a better educational system existing.
Also religious Scholars should be brought on board to help in spread awareness and discorage the anti-Islamic fallout of the almajiranci system.
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Re: almagiranchi what a useless and sensless culture
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2007, 05:29:52 PM »
Thank you all of you, Neozizo and Alkanawi, i am not only happy when i read your posts, but has also motivated me in what I am doing right know: reforming the almajiri system right from grassroot.

I wish to state, without being proud of myself, that as i am posting this thread to you, i have four (4) almajiris who take there daily food from my house, i cloth them and accommodate them, infact, two among them who are all from Zaria, Kaduna State will graduate from Higher Islamic (BOCOLIS) in Maiduguri, and I intend to immediately secure Diploma programme to them at the same institution before they finally graduate at the University level.  Dont forget brother, they are still attending their almajiri system of education, all three of them will soon conclude their 2nd (sauka) of the Holy Book.

Their is nothing wrong with almajiranci if WE collectively can assume our position, we can make a difference to the life of every child.

Thank you and may Allah subhanahu wata'ala give us the strength and opportunity so that others will benefit from us.
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Re: almagiranchi what a useless and sensless culture
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2009, 04:27:07 PM »
Na gaishe ku amma a duba agani 1. Menene almajirci, 2. Wanene almajiri a asalin kalmar? 3. Sannan yaya abin yake yanzu? Ai almajirci ya samo sila ne daga kalmar Larabci wato Almuhajir kamar wanda ya bar garin su, amma mu a wajaen mu sai aka kaman ta ta da wanda i bar garin su domin i nemi ilimi. Saboda haka almajiri yana matsayin mai neman ilmi aw wani lokacin har ya kan bar garin su.

A kan samu malami a danqa masa amanar yara ko a garin su ko ma a yarda i tafi da su wani gari ko wata qasa. Daga Kano akan tafi gabas (Borno) domin Allah ya ba su ilmi da kuma son ilmantar war (a tsammani na). Malamin nan sabo da rashin kirkin mutanen mu sai akan ce wai ladan sa yana lahira (impliedly) ba za a iya biyan sa darajar aikin sa ba.

Don rashin fahimtar wannan hasashe, da kuma rashin fahimtar addinin Muslunci, su malaman ba sa neman ladan aikin su kuma yawancin mutane ba sa biyan su, ysawon lokaci sai ya sa malaman su kan dogara da yaran domin su samu na kalaci, wani lokacin ma har su kan nemo musu dukiya. A nan sai almajirai suka zama maaikatan malam, su kan tafi nemao karan girki, saro ice, dako, wanke wanke da kuma barar kalaci. Kai har ma akan same suna hidima a gidajen da basu dace a same su a can ba kamar wani gida (na kilakai) a Gadon Qaya Kano, wai shi gidan DO. ISLAM IS NOT AGAINST ALMAJIRCI BUT IS AGAINST ROQO AND BARA.

Idan ka duba ai da bambanci da almajirin karatun allo da na karatun boko. Shi na karatun allo dai yana neman lahira ne akan dace ya riski duniyar a ciki. Shi kuwa na boko ai dama an nuna mana sai ka yi karatun boko za ka samu aikin gwamnati (abin takaici), sabo da haka sai akan ga kamar duniya kawai dan boko ike nema amma ba haka ba ne. Si ma almajirin ne sai dai kawai an qaqaba mar wani suna amma shi duniyar da lahira ya hara baki daya, sai dai akan fi ba neman duniyar nauyi.

A halin yanzu sai ka tarar a halin da ake ciki shi dan boko na da gata a gun gwamnati amma almajirin allo ba a san da shi ba sosai, shi ke nan sai ya zama yana hannun wanda ya ga damar tallafar sa, da akai nisa sai kusan a ce ya zama abin tausayi. Kuma dan lokaci mara tsawo da ya wuce sai ya zamana mutanen mu a Arewa na bin wasu Hadisai mars sa inganci na cewar misali "bakin da Allah ya tsaga...." sai ai ta auren mata suna ta haifar yara ba lissafin me ake ciki kuma yaya za ai da yaran, bacin baitul mali (TA ZAMANIN YANZU) kusan ba ruwan ta da dan kowa. Ai wanda i rasa mai tallafa mar kuma in akai rashin sa'a bai samu mai gwada mar gaskiya sosai ba to in ya ga laga laga zai dauka.

Wadansu na son daukar nauyin almajirai kamar su Dan Borno amma wata qila ba su da halin iya wa, kuma wasu na da ikon gyara abubuwan amma masu basu shawara suna cinye dalilan tallafawar. Zai kyau dai mu duba kowa ya fara daga gidan su in an dace za ai nasara amma za a jima.

Allah kyauta. :'(
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Re: almagiranchi what a useless and sensless culture
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2009, 11:17:45 AM »
An gaisheku malaimai da dogon sharhi.
A gaskiya ya kamata mugane kalmar almajiri bayana nufin maibara bane a a kamar yadda wasun mu musulmai da wadda ba musululmai ba mukasani.Yakamata mufara nuna ma dunia Almajiranci ba nakasa bane misali zan tura dana gabas intabbatar na bashi dukkan a bunda zai bukata na tsawon zamanshi a can ko inya kare  ya dawo,kamar wadda in zakatura danka western education ka keyi termly ko semester by semester.Sannan shi kuma yaro yanemi sana'a dumin ilmi baya hana sana'a matukar zaa mai da hankali.sannan mukuma jama'an gari mutaimaka domin Allah na taimakon maitaimakon bayinsa kamar yadda dan uwa DB keyi .Domin in ka duba Allah ya dubama.Indan ka baije gabas ba zaije makaranta koda anan anguwanne kuma yana  bukatan taimako !!!!!!!!
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Re: almagiranchi what a useless and sensless culture
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2009, 02:13:23 AM »
I just learnt that Kaduna has banned begging on the streets.
In lagos around Victoria Island it is a crime to offer money to almajirai.If you are caught,both you and the almajiri will be charged.

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