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Title: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: shehu usman ali on August 11, 2009, 02:40:41 PM
Allah yakawo mana wani shugaba a kano wanda zai  gyara chikin kano city.Gyaran da za ayi shine a yanka layuka(streets)masu fadi a rusa wasu gidajen da zasu tare hanya.Duk gidajen da abin ya shafa a je wajen gari a tsara wasu filaye ayi titi a hada duk abin da yakamata na unguwa ta zamani da wuta da ruwa sanan a biya compensation ga duk wanda abin ya shafa kuma a kuma basu filaye issasu.Dalilina shine a samu hanya tako ina sannan haka zai temaka wajen zurga zurga dakuma shan iska(ventilation) sanan yakamata a tafi da zamani.Amfanin yin wannan shine in case of disaster, kamar gobara,ambaliyar ruwa da sauran abubuwa masu kama da haka.Allah yakiyaye mu daga irin wadannan abubuwa amin. Allah ya albarkachi kano da abubuwa masu yawa kuma ga tarihi na tsawon lokachi.
Abin da yasa nayi wanan tunani shine mutane na dada yawa nan da shekaru kadan nan gaba wajen zama yana dada karanchi da matsewa gashi babu hanyoyi masu fadi...............don Allah duk wanda yakaranta wannan raayi nawa yayi hakuri sannan yayi tunanin nan gaba abubuwan da zasu iya faruwa saboda matsatsi da kullum ake samu saboda yawan jamaa..............Idan wanan raayi nawa ya batawa wasu don Allah a gafarche ni........
Shehu usman aliyu.....
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: bakangizo on August 11, 2009, 04:23:50 PM
Ba sai ka bada hakuri ba. Ai ra'ayin ka ne ka fada, kuma kana da ikon fadin ra'ayin ka anan, matukar dai ba cin zarafi a ciki.  ;)

Welcome to the forum.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: HUSNAA on August 11, 2009, 07:06:36 PM
Quote from: Bakan~Gizo on August 11, 2009, 04:23:50 PM
Ba sai ka bada hakuri ba. Ai ra'ayin ka ne ka fada, kuma kana da ikon fadin ra'ayin ka anan, matukar dai ba cin zarafi a ciki.  ;)

Welcome to the forum.

Ba'ada kida, ra'ayin ka gaskiya ne
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: Lawwali on August 11, 2009, 08:47:54 PM
Hakika wannan ra'ayi ne mai kyau. sai dai idan mutum baya son tafiya da zamani. Ni idan da zan zama Gwamna a kano, the first thing da zanyi yi shine DECONGESTION AGENDA.  Na san cewa bazan yi tenure biyu ba, saboda da yawan mutanenmu basu son zamanancewa. Idan akayi la'akari da garuruwan kasashen afirka da su kayi gogayya da kano shekaru sama da dari biyar duk sunyi nisa amma kano na nan jiya i yau. :( :( :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: nasr19 on August 11, 2009, 10:16:51 PM
NSE, COREN, etc, Kano state chapter, ga babban challenge! Ya kamata a samu injiniyoyi, architects, town planners, etc, da za su yi forming din think-tank on the modernization of Kano City. Wannan aikin na bukatan careful planning. Acceptance to implement the resulting blueprint sai ya zama prerequisite din zaben duk mai son zama gwamna nan gaba. (pls forgive the rusty (modernized?!) hausa  ;D)
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: gogannaka on August 13, 2009, 11:19:52 AM
Nice points.
The problem does not lie with only the government but also the people.
My friend who studied urban and regional planning did his project on the alteration of the kano masterplan.
He did a case study of dorayi community. I helped him collect the layout of the community from KNUPDA(formerly Kaseppa). We found it so hard relating the plan to the reality on ground. It has totally been altered. In the plan there were provisions for playgrounds, graveyards,free spaces etc,but trust our people,the plots have been developed not in accordance to the plan.Houses have been built on those lands,even the space meant for the primary school was shared and houses were built.
The annoying thing is that the plots,after being sold as full plots were most(if not all the time) divided again into two or three and then resold(awon igiya) so this made the entire community choked up with very little or no space for any service utility e.g drainage,cable,pipes etc.
That community is an eyesore wallahi. We once entered one lungu at a community nearby called Jaen and they had a problem.They had a heap of shara and it was stinking badly. The waste disposal unit arrived to clear the dumpsite but wallahi there was no way a truck could access the dumpsite.The streets are so narrow. And i tell you that dumpsite needs some caterpillars to get cleared.The last time we heard they were thinking of demolishing some housed to access the site.
During his course of the project we spoke to an official of the planning department on why they allow the awon igiya plots to be developed. He said that it is because the people cannot develop the full plots and most of the time when they lay out full 75X50m plots people do not develop them.
I personally blame KASEPPA for the congestion of Kano. The bunch there are there to make money and can alter the plan for some wierd amount of money.
The recent head of the agency is trying to at least rid the streets from the illegal structures but is facing serious condemnation.
What can we do?
i am happy that the govt is buiding a modern city along the western bypass,i hope it does not turn out to be like the former layouts.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: Muhsin on August 13, 2009, 12:17:14 PM
Quote from: gogannaka on August 13, 2009, 11:19:52 AM
The recent head of the agency is trying to at least rid the streets from the illegal structures but is facing serious condemnation.

The guy's actions are really condemnable and reprehensible, for he's not doing them in the right way.

I have a solid proof that he's just being used to victimize the poor ones and as a machinery to launch a vendetta against some group of people. Mts...very disapproving and disappointing acts.

The guy should have a second thought for it's a political era; yau gareka gobe ga dan-uwanka.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: HUSNAA on August 13, 2009, 03:25:00 PM
Quote from: gogannaka on August 13, 2009, 11:19:52 AM
Nice points.
The problem does not lie with only the government but also the people.
My friend who studied urban and regional planning did his project on the alteration of the kano masterplan.
He did a case study of dorayi community. I helped him collect the layout of the community from KNUPDA(formerly Kaseppa). We found it so hard relating the plan to the reality on ground. It has totally been altered. In the plan there were provisions for playgrounds, graveyards,free spaces etc,but trust our people,the plots have been developed not in accordance to the plan.Houses have been built on those lands,even the space meant for the primary school was shared and houses were built.
The annoying thing is that the plots,after being sold as full plots were most(if not all the time) divided again into two or three and then resold(awon igiya) so this made the entire community choked up with very little or no space for any service utility e.g drainage,cable,pipes etc.
That community is an eyesore wallahi. We once entered one lungu at a community nearby called Jaen and they had a problem.They had a heap of shara and it was stinking badly. The waste disposal unit arrived to clear the dumpsite but wallahi there was no way a truck could access the dumpsite.The streets are so narrow. And i tell you that dumpsite needs some caterpillars to get cleared.The last time we heard they were thinking of demolishing some housed to access the site.
During his course of the project we spoke to an official of the planning department on why they allow the awon igiya plots to be developed. He said that it is because the people cannot develop the full plots and most of the time when they lay out full 75X50m plots people do not develop them.
I personally blame KASEPPA for the congestion of Kano. The bunch there are there to make money and can alter the plan for some wierd amount of money.
The recent head of the agency is trying to at least rid the streets from the illegal structures but is facing serious condemnation.
What can we do?
i am happy that the govt is buiding a modern city along the western bypass,i hope it does not turn out to be like the former layouts.

I think some of the fault doesnt lie with KASSEPPA. A lot of it lies directly with the officials at govt house. I think because land is such a hot issue, the governor has the final say in how it is allocated and for what. Most of the past govs I dont know about the present one, were so intent on how to make revenue out of land that corner shops sprang up helter skelter and i even remember a time in the 90s when a lot of the govt gra houses were reapportioned under that term carveout, so that houses with large garden spaces were suddenly split into two plots and the undeveloped garden space was sold out to other ppl, who promptly got rid of all vegetation in order to build structures. The result now is that there are far fewer trees in the GRA than we used to know as kids. In fact if you look at Kano on google map, the tree density inside the city is so low that you can count the trees as single items, whereas before u can only estimate by looking at the tree crowns because the tree density was so high and the crowns formed a canopy. We are actually experiencing sand storms in Kano now. This is such a disastrous turn of events. Allah Ya Sawwake ameen.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: bakangizo on August 13, 2009, 05:12:01 PM
QuoteI think some of the fault doesnt lie with KASSEPPA. A lot of it lies directly with the officials at govt house. I think because land is such a hot issue, the governor has the final say in how it is allocated and for what. Most of the past govs I dont know about the present one, were so intent on how to make revenue out of land that corner shops sprang up helter skelter and i even remember a time in the 90s when a lot of the govt gra houses were reapportioned under that term carveout,

Gaskiya ne. The  menace of "Carve outs" is legendary. And again the corruption of people in the relevant agencies.  For instance, I know of this building at Dan Marke Bus stop, Hotoro. It was supposed to be 'bene', hawa daya ko biyu. Too close to the road. Kaseppa put a "STOP" order on it. But to our surprise, we just woke up one morning to see that the decking was done! kamar asiri. Before u know it, first floor building has commenced. A week later, the whole structure was ordered to be destroyed by Kaseppa forcefully. As providence would have it, I entered a cab with the 'Birkila' who supervised the building. he told me that when Kaseppa initially ordered them to stop, the owner went and met a top official of Kaseppa, (most likely bribed him), who told them to go and mix the concrete and do the decking in the middle of the night! :o He promised them that he would ensure that the restraining order is removed, hinting that he has the power to even convince the gov on that respect. So they believed him. unfortunately for them (and fotunately for people of the area ;D), Kaseppa stood its ground. So this goes to show that the active connivance of officials contribute a lot in this issue.

Quote from: Lawwali on August 11, 2009, 08:47:54 PM
Hakika wannan ra'ayi ne mai kyau. sai dai idan mutum baya son tafiya da zamani. Ni idan da zan zama Gwamna a kano, the first thing da zanyi yi shine DECONGESTION AGENDA.  Na san cewa bazan yi tenure biyu ba, saboda da yawan mutanenmu basu son zamanancewa.

Wallahi kana da gaskiya. Yanzu abin misali, gyaran hanyoyi da akeyi, da kuma hana gine-gine barkatai a kan tituna, ai kaga ba irin tsinuwa da zagin da gwamna bai sha. na tabbata da a tenure din shi na  farko ne ya yi wannan, sanin halin mutanen Kano, ba'a sake zaben shi ba. ;D

QuoteIdan akayi la'akari da garuruwan kasashen afirka da su kayi gogayya da kano shekaru sama da dari biyar duk sunyi nisa amma kano na nan jiya i yau. :( :( :( :( :( :(

I disagree. Kaman wadanne garuruwa kake nufi? Abin da tabbatar shine, idan dai har wasu garuruwan sun wuce Kano, to haka kazalika Kano to zarce wasu garuruwan tsararrakinta da sukai gogayya tun wancan lokacin.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: gogannaka on August 13, 2009, 05:20:47 PM
Muhsin share with us the solid proofs please.

Husnaa the carveout palava is disappointing.
Everyone wants to live in the GRA. Now the GRA is no longer GRA.
My reason for saying the fault lies with Kaseppa is because right now there are no longer any carveouts to give away. And i think the shekarau administration has halted the allocation of carveouts.
Check out all the new layouts done by Kaseppa:Sheka,Dorayi,karkasara,rijiyar zaki,bakin bulo,Panshekara,tudun wada,rimin kebe,hotoron arewa,etc etc. get the plans and see if the areas have been developed according to the plan. The buildings were approved by kaseppa prior to development and they do not conform to the layout plan. They are now slums.

To be candid however,i believe the new management at kaseppa are stricter in terms of plan adherance then the former lot.
A friend of a friend,a professional urban and regional planner said he was frustrated out of the agency because he had a degree and most of the staff were not in any way experienced in urban planning.The make a business out of approving illegal structures.
Where i think the government house is to blame is the fact that these things are done while they don't do anything to stop it.
And to go round again,if they decide to enforce the adherance,people will condemn.


We need someone like Babatunde Raji Fashola in Kano state.
As troublesome as Lagosians are,the guy was able to demolish all the houses along the lagos badagry expressway to make way for his 10 lane road and light rail project.
We honestly need to move forward kamar yadda lawwali ya ce,dole a tafi da zamani.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: Muhsin on August 13, 2009, 05:47:14 PM
Quote from: gogannaka on August 13, 2009, 05:20:47 PM
Muhsin share with us the solid proofs please.

You know my business tent was among those demolished in that ongoing campaign, right?

People complained, including I myself, that we were not given any notice or "papers" telling us where we should relocate. So that we could remove our "containers", "case", etc Hence we sent delegates to the KNUPDA office after the operation. They simply told them that our site was not on the actual sites map to be destroyed; they were just directed to carry-out the work. Hear this barbarism, for Allah's sake?

Already some people had sensed that fact, and were grossly complaining, abusing the suspected directors of the destruction. Wallahi tallahi I remained mute until they (KNUPDA people) admitted it themselves. Although even afterwards I said only few words, for I know that cannot be the end of my life.

Further, ask anybody, DB, EMTL, for example, who know the place. They'll tell you it can't be just that demolished and gone.

Allah ya isa, I repeat, and I'll die repeating. I know, inshaAllah, Allah, the Exalted, won't let their merciless, thoughtless and irresponsible action go unpunished.

Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: HUSNAA on August 14, 2009, 01:45:32 AM
ggnk, never mind ai ta tsinuwar. In Allah Ya Sa mutum da zuciya daya yake aikin sa kuma saboda taimakon talakawa da samun walwalar su, to ai wa'yansu na tsinewa da ga baya kuma wa'yansu za su fara sa wa mutum albarka, kuma in sun fara sa wa mutum albarka, in so far as the memory of the good they enjoyed from that person persists, ko bayan ransa ma sai an samasa albarka an roki Allah Ya Jikan sa. Ga example din Audu Bako, the best gov kano ever had. Allah Ya Gafarta masa kurakuren sa ameen.

Muhsin, I wonder, if in the first place you had done everything according to the book,  Knupda wouldnt  have come knocking down yr shops ko? Did you after you bought the place go and check its legitimacy with the urban planning board? Or even before buying it lets say, so that u dont end up losing yr money if the shop was illegally constructed.
BTW, I doubt that knupda will tell you where u should relocate. It will assume that you will relocate in the properly designated business areas and that u should acquire the property as the market dictates, since knupda will not give u a place free of charge as compensation as it regards the occupancy of yr shops to be illegal to begin with.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: gogannaka on August 14, 2009, 11:12:42 AM
Quote from: Bakan~Gizo on August 13, 2009, 05:12:01 PM
For instance, I know of this building at Dan Marke Bus stop, Hotoro. It was supposed to be 'bene', hawa daya ko biyu. Too close to the road. Kaseppa put a "STOP" order on it. But to our surprise, we just woke up one morning to see that the decking was done! kamar asiri. Before u know it, first floor building has commenced. A week later, the whole structure was ordered to be destroyed by Kaseppa forcefully. As providence would have it, I entered a cab with the 'Birkila' who supervised the building. he told me that when Kaseppa initially ordered them to stop, the owner went and met a top official of Kaseppa, (most likely bribed him), who told them to go and mix the concrete and do the decking in the middle of the night! :o He promised them that he would ensure that the restraining order is removed, hinting that he has the power to even convince the gov on that respect. So they believed him. unfortunately for them (and fotunately for people of the area ;D), Kaseppa stood its ground. So this goes to show that the active connivance of officials contribute a lot in this issue.

I will give you another story.
My former company was building a new office complex.During construction a carpenter fell and died.
KNUPDA now stopped the construction pending investigation. During the investigation the agency asked for the plan of the building and it was given to them.They now saw that a penthouse is being built whereas the original plan approved by the agency didn't have a penthouse. That is where wahala started. The owner of the company now gave the site engineer 1.2 million to find means of approving the building.He met some guys at the agency and told them about the development.Unfortunately they said that the MD has taken up the issue and all the papers were with him in the office,if not because of that they would have helped. The engineer now gave his men the go ahead to resume work and they went ahead. Within minutes the agency deployed mobile policemen to arrest anyone on site.They were lucky that the guys he met at the agency now called him to alert him of the arrest warrants and he immediately called his boys off.
After that they had to send the new plan for approval.They had to follow the due process.
That is why i have some degree of confidence on the head of the agency.


@Muhsin,
I am sorry about your loss.
My grandfather's house(which was a gidan gado) fence was also demolished during the exercise. The household complained that it was constructed with the approval of kaseppa. They were asked to bring the approval and if they are right that it was approved then the agency would rebuild their fence. The last time i heard,they took the papers and were following the process. But clearly the fence was an obstruction and they were asked to move back when re-building. In planning,usually along highways,interstate or major roads. 6Meters(i think) should be left on both sides of the road for services and in case of future expansion. Also,there are areas meant for business,residence,public services etc.But in Kano,one can build or erect anything anywhere without even considering the effect on the existing populace.Usually the attitude that akwai 'yanchi' and since babu wanda yayi magana to ai ba komai.
Mosques can block an entire road because they are holding a lecture. A relative once nearly lost her life and baby when she started labour and couldn't access road to the hospital because ana lecture a masallaci kusa da gidan su.

Like the poster said,
QuoteDalilina shine a samu hanya tako ina sannan haka zai temaka wajen zurga zurga dakuma shan iska(ventilation) sanan yakamata a tafi da zamani.Amfanin yin wannan shine in case of disaster, kamar gobara,ambaliyar ruwa da sauran abubuwa masu kama da haka.Allah yakiyaye mu daga irin wadannan abubuwa amin.

Husnaa, a friend's uncle told us how when the govt was building tiga dam,the people rejected it that wai za'a sare masu dorawa and trees.
The governor then (i beleive it was audu bako) explained to them that the project was going to be for their own good but they still rejected.
It came to a point where the people came out in mass to stop the caterpillars from working.The governor it was said told the workers to go ahead and work but still they met resistance.Later on some succumbed and their areas were used for the irrigation basins while those that resisted were left with their trees. Not long after,they now started seeing the potentials and they requested that their areas be included too.
Today the basins are a source of pride to the communities.
So i agree with you,Allah ba azzalumi bane. He knows what is in everybody's heart.
Idan suna yi don zalunci He knows,and idan don ci gaban Al'umma ne ya sani.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: admin on August 14, 2009, 11:42:43 AM
Gaisuwa da godiaya ga (Thanks and greetings) to shehu usman ali for starting this Topic of discussion and to Bakan~Gizo, HUSNAA, nasr19, gogannaka, and all other memebers for their contribution to this Topic.

Is it possible for us to get any written Document and or information regarding the Kano Master Plan from KNUPDA and or Ministry of Land and Physical Planning?
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: Muhsin on August 14, 2009, 11:54:58 AM
Quote from: HUSNAA on August 14, 2009, 01:45:32 AM
Muhsin, I wonder, if in the first place you had done everything according to the book,  Knupda wouldnt  have come knocking down yr shops ko? Did you after you bought the place go and check its legitimacy with the urban planning board? Or even before buying it lets say, so that u dont end up losing yr money if the shop was illegally constructed.

I did everything according to the book, i.e. get occupant permission from the LG as the place was theirs. More over, I think am the only one with this permission.

Later the place is said to be owned by the Gwale Veterinary Clinic, thereafter the veterinary boss called us, had a chat with us and granted permission to remained where we were.

What more on God's earth is needed?

Quote from: HUSNAA on August 14, 2009, 01:45:32 AM
BTW, I doubt that knupda will tell you where u should relocate. It will assume that you will relocate in the properly designated business areas and that u should acquire the property as the market dictates, since knupda will not give u a place free of charge as compensation as it regards the occupancy of yr shops to be illegal to begin with.

Telling people where they should relocate is what they do exactly to some, for example I know of BUK Road people, Club Road, Post Office, to mention but a few. Then why not us? Are we not 'yan Kano, as well? Why should they just destroyed our properties heartlessly and went just because some crooks gave them directive? Haba don Allah. Wallahi their actions are not justifiable in whatsoever way.

Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: Muhsin on August 14, 2009, 12:17:32 PM
Quote from: gogannaka on August 14, 2009, 11:12:42 AM
@Muhsin,
I am sorry about your loss.
My grandfather's house(which was a gidan gado) fence was also demolished during the exercise. The household complained that it was constructed with the approval of kaseppa. They were asked to bring the approval and if they are right that it was approved then the agency would rebuild their fence. The last time i heard,they took the papers and were following the process. But clearly the fence was an obstruction and they were asked to move back when re-building. In planning,usually along highways,interstate or major roads. 6Meters(i think) should be left on both sides of the road for services and in case of future expansion. Also,there are areas meant for business,residence,public services etc.But in Kano,one can build or erect anything anywhere without even considering the effect on the existing populace.Usually the attitude that akwai 'yanchi' and since babu wanda yayi magana to ai ba komai.

Thanks, GGNK.

I heard the governor's rantings once, I think some few days before the calamity befall-ed us, during a dinner organized by Kano Traders Association to celebrate his so-called Doctorate Degree. He saintly as usual and always explained (or justified, as he falsely thinks) KNUPDA's actions. The talk ended some minutes after 12 midnight. He just cut it off seeing it was becoming late, he said. You know the man is very convincing, for he's a typical holier than thou.

Exactly the following day, under my old shop's roof, a hotted argument erupted. Some arguers vehemently criticized KNUPDA's action, while others remained neutral. Wallahi I was the only exponent who tried all the tricks in the book to vindicate KNUPDA/Shekarau's exercise. Mts. Life. That's why after the demolishing of my shop some of my friends mocked me--some are even doing it whenever the subject arises.

Allah ya isa!

Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: sdanyaro on August 14, 2009, 12:28:10 PM
I am very sorry about your predicament Muhsin, but in most cases like this, permission from Local Government alone, without any State Agency's involvement is not usually enough. I could be wrong. Allah ya sauwake kuma Allah ya kiyaye gaba.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: Muhsin on August 14, 2009, 12:45:22 PM
Thanks, sdanyaro.

But I made it clear that the place was said to be theirs. Later its said to be owned by Gwale veterinary, as the LG and the veterinary were (later) separated. I didn't just stay but went to the veterinary boss, had a chat with him and re-granted me another permission.

You might not understand me, fully. But there is no even kwalta around the area. The KNUPDA men were only given directive by some folks in the area to come and dehumanized people because they were/are at loggerheads with them.

I wanna say something. Don't mean anything bad. Just example.

Why do they leave some untouched who should even be displaced because of their being beside roads? For example Mandawari-Kofar Na'isa road, Kwanar 'yan dusa-Diso road, Emir's Place, Sharada, etc? Why and why?
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: gogannaka on September 28, 2009, 11:40:15 AM
Quote from: admin on August 14, 2009, 11:42:43 AM
Gaisuwa da godiaya ga (Thanks and greetings) to shehu usman ali for starting this Topic of discussion and to Bakan~Gizo, HUSNAA, nasr19, gogannaka, and all other memebers for their contribution to this Topic.

Is it possible for us to get any written Document and or information regarding the Kano Master Plan from KNUPDA and or Ministry of Land and Physical Planning?
Admin maybe you can purchase the masterplan from the said agencies.In the alternate you can visit Environmental Research Survey Ltd along bompai road (adjacent see sweet and bakery) and talk to them if they have digital copies.

One thing i learnt from planning professionals is that there is a duplication of responsibilities between Ministry of land and physical planning and KNUPDA.

Gaskiya Kano akwai serious problem. I think it should be the dirtiest(or second dirtiest after P/Harcourt) and most lawless city in Nigeria now and the worst is that the people are highly ignorant if this fact.When you mention this to the average dan Kano he/she starts to blame the government.You will see a street littered with dirt packed from the gutters and the people ignore it,waiting for the government to come pack it for them.
The first thing you notice in Kano now is dirt and congestion ga hayakin bala'i due to motorbikes and old cars.You hardly also ever notice trees or gardens again.
Honestly it is becoming( or has become) a dead city.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: bakangizo on September 28, 2009, 05:14:29 PM
Quote from: gogannaka on September 28, 2009, 11:40:15 AM
Gaskiya Kano akwai serious problem. I think it should be the dirtiest(or second dirtiest after P/Harcourt) and most lawless city in Nigeria now and the worst is that the people are highly ignorant if this fact.When you mention this to the average dan Kano he/she starts to blame the government.You will see a street littered with dirt packed from the gutters and the people ignore it,waiting for the government to come pack it for them.The first thing you notice in Kano now is dirt and congestion ga hayakin bala'i due to motorbikes and old cars.You hardly also ever notice trees or gardens again.
Honestly it is becoming( or has become) a dead city.

Gaskiya ka sosa min inda yake min kaikayi. To be frank and honest, I don't there's a lawless state vis-a-vis citizens' behaviour in Nigeria like Kano!!! This is a place where anyone feels and does like he wants. Babu ma irin 'yan Achaba. I think the govt made a serious mistake in not tackling the issue earlty enough. Now what's to be done? How do you control this menace?
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: gogannaka on October 05, 2009, 12:19:23 PM
Which if the menace are you talking about?

For the okada menace,i believe one way it can be tackled is to alienate certain routes which okada's should not be following,say major roads and highways. They should also have a time of operation.The whole essence will be to discourage everybody from venturing into the business.
Also taxi's and buses should be standardised and made more convenient.The kind of taxi's and buses ploughing the streets in Kano are as bad as the okada's themselves;deathtraps.....Kai gaskiya akwai jan aiki.

Gaskiya maybe it is high time another state is carved out of Kano state. There is no way the state can cater for 14million inhabitants,i mean that is the population of new york city,and as developed as the US is,new york remains one of the hardest cities to manage,talkless of an african city.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: bakangizo on October 05, 2009, 05:25:17 PM
The buses/taxis are not so much of a problem like the achabas. Kai, gaskiya wadannan mutane akwai rashin da'a!  >:(

I think your suggestion to restrrict their movement to certain routes is good. Lagos and Porthcourt were mulling the idea some months back. Don't know if it has taken effect there.

I also don't think carving another state out of Kano would solve the problem, though I see the wisdom (even if not the need) for that. Y'know the problem is Kano Metropolis, not Kano state. Even if you carve out ten states out kano state, ppl will still flock to kano city/metro. People just aren't gonna leave kano city to the newly craeted states. at least not in the near future.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: Muhsin on October 06, 2009, 02:26:55 PM
Salam,

As one popular saying goes: ai tun ran gini tun ran zane. Kano city is already over populated and polluted. And that happens as it's boarders are widely opened for every Tom and Dick to come without any sort of checking. I can remember when I visited a friend in Babura sometimes ago, there we took a bike to cross Niger's boarder to a town called Magarya. The custom officers prevented us to enter with that bike for it has no number plate. Hear this, for Allah's sake! Yau 'yan Niger are constantly flooding Kano. . .go to areas like Kurna, Rijiyar Lemo, Bachirawa, etc and witness.

And regarding carving out another state from Kano. Sincerely I kinda look at this idea as callow. Ai as BKGZ mentioned above, Kano city/metro is where the problem is culminated and there would certainly be no any change as people will definitely remain there. Look at, for example, Jigawa; even many messengers are still residing in Kano, talk less of the government officials and the rest.

Further still, when looking at this from a broad perspective; creating other states in Northern Nigeria brings little development. States like Yobe (sorry DB) are virtually better off in Borno. And even Jigawa to some extent should have been remained in Kano.

Kai, Allah dai ya gyara.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: gogannaka on February 22, 2010, 11:44:16 AM
Just recently,i read in the papers that a family lost 11 members in kanor due to a fire outbreak.
The family came for a naming ceremony all the way from Gombe state only to meet their death.
It was reported that the fire started around 11pm.
Only two people survived including the baby who was thrown down by his mother. Unfortunately the mother died.

In the report, the fire service were quick to respond but their vehicle couldn't get access to the house because the road was too narrow. Imagine!!! Also,the burglar bars prevented the family from escaping.
At this age,how could there be a place in the metropolis for God's sake where a fire service truck cannot access?
There is a complete failure in Kano state's town planning.
The urban planning agency has failed completely and they are the ones to be blamed for the deaths of these innocent people.
Just recently also,about the same number of people,youngsters of the same family,coming back from a wedding celebration crashed into a black market petrol operator and all of them died.
When the government decided to ban the sale of petrol by the roadside the people protested and the government gave up.
For how long will we live like this.
It is time the government empowers strongly, the urban development agency.
The present employers there have proven to be complete failures and they should all be shown the way out.
The whole system needs to be overhauled and the people should be forced to comply with the planning and standards requirements.

Building plans should be strictly adhered to.
Selling of petrol on the streets should be banned.If at all they should sell, let there be a standard where safety is paramount. (kai i doubt if there's a way it can be standardised)
Make shift structures along streets should be demolished and the standard street measurement should be applied everywhere and whoever encroaches should be punished.

Kai gaskiya Kano zero! Abun takaichi wallahi.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: bakangizo on February 22, 2010, 12:38:04 PM
Quote from: gogannaka on February 22, 2010, 11:44:16 AM
Kai gaskiya Kano zero! Abun takaichi wallahi.

Why? I mean, why is it Kano zero? You speak as if this is a peculiar Kano problem. Most, I dare say all, cities in Nigeria have the same problem. It is a town planning failure that started from when the cities were in their formative stages. And successive govts have failed to impose adherence to town planning in new, imaging areas/quarters. Kamar yadda muhsin ya ce, tun ran gini tun ran zane. Correcting the defects now would be a herculian task. Just imagine, yaya zaka yi da cikin birni? How would you carve out access to all those lunguna? Those that lost their lives in that fire incident was mostly as a result of the burgerproof, not the inability of the firetruck to reach the house. Similar cases are being reported on a regularly basis around the country. This is not excusing the failure of govt, as I agree with what you said about empowering urban dev. agencies, strict implementation of the laws, etc. But most importantly the govt needs to steel itself against a backlash from the people. We all know what the kano state govt went through (and is going through) as a result of the on going reconstruction projects around the metropolis. We have a very stupid mentality. Duk wani abu na gyara bamu son shi. And you have some useless people, the so called elites in the state,spurring the people on to rebel against the govt. All in the name of opposition. 
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: Dan-Borno on February 22, 2010, 02:00:15 PM
this is a tragedy, not only to family of the victims but the
entire people of kano/gombe state and nigeria at large. the
issue of town planning needs revisiting on a more strict and
serious note.  kuma kamar yadda bakangizo ya fada its a
nigerian problem not kano or elsewhere alone, recently, the
UN-HABITAT declares that only abuja is a real city in naija
and all the rest are slums.

in maiduguri where i come, with the active aid from government
during the 1999 - 2003 tenure, government succeded in
extorting and bastardizing an existing plan of federal low cost
maiduguri which was designed and built during murtala's
regime, you can imagine, instead of government to re-improve
the environment, it helped in deteriorating it.

definitely reform cannot take place considering how our people
behave in anything new that comes their way.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: gogannaka on February 22, 2010, 06:02:20 PM
BKGZ from all the places i have visited in Nigeria (not too many places sha) Kano is the worst.
I'm sorry to say.
Banda haka kuma, Kanon na ita ce tawa and it hurts me to see everywhere trying to actualize a Livable environment while my own town is decaying at a more than alarming rate.

Herculian task ne that we need to implement no matter what.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: Muhsin on February 23, 2010, 12:14:54 PM
Salam,

GGNK, you had me laughing. Your plan is very undoable and even artless. Not Kano, or at least everywhere in Kano. If you say some areas, correct. But to think of the whole Kano is rather a wishful thinking.

Beside, let us see your plan for Dala area.  :)
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: bakangizo on February 23, 2010, 12:38:44 PM
Quote from: gogannaka on February 22, 2010, 06:02:20 PM
BKGZ from all the places i have visited in Nigeria (not too many places sha) Kano is the worst.

Please, please. Take a breather. I understand your frustrations. Dole ne in mutum yana da kishin garin su ya ji zafi. But don't you think you arre being a little unfair here? How can you say Kano is the worst? In what way? Take away Abuja, Portharcourt and Lagos. Then tell me another city better than Kano. Remember that when judging a place, you take a lot of things into consideration. History of the town/city, its nature (a commercial or civil service dominated), when was it built, population, etc. Lagos and Abuja were built with the might of the Country's wealth. Portharcourt is what it is simply because of the oil money. Kaduna was not an old city Kano, and was the HQR of the old Northern Region. And like what DB said, the UN-HABITAT recently stated that only Abuja is a real city in Nigeria.

And please saying that everywhere is trying to actualize a liveable environment while "Kano is decaying at an alarming rate" is way off the truth. Because Kano is one very very few states now in which the govt is doing soemthing about the town's redesign, reconstruction. Apart from Lagos, I don't think any state is doing more. It may not be enough now, and may not solve the problem overnight, but at least something is being done. And kudos them.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: gogannaka on February 23, 2010, 04:13:01 PM
Muhsin kafi son a cigaba da zama haka kenan?
Ba ni da plan for dala because i am not a regional planner.
But we cannot conclusively say that nothing can be done.

BKGZ:
Calabar
Maiduguri
Katsina
Dutse
Yola
Sokoto
From my own point of view,all these cities are more livable than Kano. I'm veryy sorry to say that.
Calabar is by far the loveliest city i've ever been.

Some time back, the BBC made a report of how the old Kano used to be an envy of everyone including the foreigners.
It isn't how it is today because the urban devt and management board didn't see preservation as important or at least,they were the usual Govt workers who don't give a damn as long as their salaries are paid. The people there don't have a passion for urban beauty,standardization or preservation.
A friend who recently went to some historical sites in Egypt, Israel and even London told me how very very similar the places were to Kano city (yes Muhsin kamar dala). In London for instance,there are places whereby you cannot even renovate your home because the govt want it to be as it is,to preserve the history of the place.
I also agree that there hasn't been any govt that is doing as much to upgrade the metropolis like the present government (in all sincerity).
Matsalar Kano mutanen ne da kuma KNUPDA.
KA je ka bada 15000 wa any official na KNUPDA and all your illegalities will be legalised.
But i realise your point. But still more needs to be done.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: Dan-Borno on February 23, 2010, 06:47:06 PM
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t124/busuguma/Kano.jpg)

KANO

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t124/busuguma/Maiduguri.jpg)

MAIDUGURI

and

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t124/busuguma/Abuja.jpg)

ABUJA

gaskiyan UN-HABITAT, did you guys notice muhsin's demolished shop?
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: gogannaka on February 24, 2010, 12:54:48 AM
Dama maiduguri tafi Kano bishiyoyi?
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: Dan-Borno on February 24, 2010, 09:18:50 AM
most of these neem trees are either by the sides of the
highway or government establishment like primary school etc.
since the departure of the military government, little is
done in encouraging people to plant a tree and on a daily
basis muna sayen itachen murhu, this should also be a source
of concern.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: gogannaka on February 24, 2010, 01:41:12 PM
I was travelling to abuja last month and between kaduna and abuja i counted nine trucks loaded with 'itace'/firewood but not already cut)
I felt so sad. I called the attention of my travelling mate who never noticed the trucks to roughly estimate how many trees have been cut down to fill these trucks. You always see these kinds of trucks filled to capacity with fallen trees but you hardly ever hear them being replanted.
It seems that we aren't afraid of the dangres of desert encroachment.

BKGZ bari in sake tabo Kano....pls kayi hakuri.
We were taking a stroll in abuja(4 of us all from Kano) and we were enjoying the fresh (unpolluted by okada smoke) air and all of us were very annoyed that you cannot get such fresh air in Kano.Kai tun farko ma babu inda zaka fita strolling da iyalin ka a kano yanzu.
Nothing serene.
When i went to maiduguri i realised it is not as smoky as Kano,why. They also have a large number of okada riders but they use four stroke motorbikes that do not smoke. Kano kuwa sai jincheng,two stroke that needs their petrol to be mixed with engine oil and as a result emit serious smoke(especially when they are old)
I ask the government to ban the importation and use of 2 stroke engines.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: IBB on February 24, 2010, 01:52:26 PM
Quote from: gogannaka on February 24, 2010, 12:54:48 AM
Dama maiduguri tafi Kano bishiyoyi?

Good observation. Zafi ne yasa kaga bishiyoyin da yawa. Suna neman inda zasu sami inuwa. LOL

Quote from: Dan-Borno on February 24, 2010, 09:18:50 AM
most of these neem trees are either by the sides of the
highway or government establishment
like primary school etc.
since the departure of the military government, little is
done in encouraging people to plant a tree and on a daily
basis muna sayen itachen murhu, this should also be a source
of concern.

Tree could be a good indicator for strategic targets kenan a Borno
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: Bashir Ahmad on February 24, 2010, 02:34:38 PM
A tunani na kano ba iya kyaran titina take bukata kawai ba. Dole idan ana son gani kano gogayya da irin manyan manyan biranan duniya to sai an buda cikin kano kuma ansamu kamar karamar hukumar biyar a wajen kano an gyarasu sun zama birane. Ta haka ne za'a samu raguwar mutane cikin birni kano.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: Muhsin on February 24, 2010, 03:50:33 PM
Quote from: gogannaka on February 23, 2010, 04:13:01 PM
Muhsin kafi son a cigaba da zama haka kenan?
Ba ni da plan for dala because i am not a regional planner.
But we cannot conclusively say that nothing can be done.

GGNK, nima fa I feel it whenever I go to States like KT; and when I visited Gombe thorough Bauchi. I noticed the striking differences you are alluding. Amma let me reiterate: tun ran gini tun ran zane. And BKGZ has pointed out something you seem to miss, thats you've to look at these cities historical background. Kano CANNOT be rid of its present congestion. I agree some areas, yah but not everywhere as you are suggesting. That is practically impossible.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: Muhsin on February 24, 2010, 04:09:28 PM
Quote from: Dan-Borno on February 23, 2010, 06:47:06 PM
gaskiyan UN-HABITAT, did you guys notice muhsin's demolished shop?

DB, belittling dina za kayi? Ba zaka tausaya min ba?  :'( :'( :'( I'm now jobless because of Sardauna. . . :( :( :(

Any way, I'll soon organize fund raising for rebuilding the site.  ;D
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: bakangizo on February 25, 2010, 01:30:09 PM
Quote from: gogannaka on February 24, 2010, 01:41:12 PM
BKGZ bari in sake tabo Kano....pls kayi hakuri.
We were taking a stroll in abuja(4 of us all from Kano) and we were enjoying the fresh (unpolluted by okada smoke) air and all of us were very annoyed that you cannot get such fresh air in Kano.Kai tun farko ma babu inda zaka fita strolling da iyalin ka a kano yanzu.
Nothing serene.
When i went to maiduguri i realised it is not as smoky as Kano,why. They also have a large number of okada riders but they use four stroke motorbikes that do not smoke. Kano kuwa sai jincheng,two stroke that needs their petrol to be mixed with engine oil and as a result emit serious smoke(especially when they are old)
I ask the government to ban the importation and use of 2 stroke engines.

Honestly I still fail to see the relevance of these comparisms with other places. Kowane gari da yadda yake. Kuma yanayin gari yana samo asali ne daga dalilin kafa shi, dadewar shi, da yawan mutanen shi. Even in developed countries, you have cosmopolitan cities and metropolitan cities. It is way off the mark to start to think that because there's "fresh air" in Abuja, so there should be everywhere. You can't start to compare places that have just started developing not more than 10 years back, with Kano that was there for decades. Places like Gombe, Katsina, Dutse are "baby towns" that were just waking up. They were no more than big villages 20 years back. One can conviniently tuck in those towns (yes all of them) inside Kano, and there would still be space for more. They were just springing up, so definetely they would enjoy the touch of current modernity in their build-up.

And I really don't know what you mean by other towns are "livable" but not Kano. I believe "livability" depends on what one is looking for in a place. Kano encompasses everything in those towns you listed. Quite places like Bompai, Nassarawa, Hotoro, Badawa Layout, etc, and of course densely populated areas that need no mentioning ;D  In all the towns you mentioned, Maiduguri is the only place I can live voluntarily. I don't like Abuja one bit (yes, the same Abuja with its beautiful roads,boulevards plus the fresh air too !) And I know a lot people that don't. A lot of us fought tooth and nail not to be transfered there. It is a matter of how one wants to live, and what one wants in a town.

It is not for anything that places like Kano and Lagos are highly populated. Definitely people found them livable!
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: IBB on February 25, 2010, 06:57:38 PM
Thump up BKGZ well said. However I cant imagine why you would prefer to live Maid (may be the Shuwas?). I spent half of my life in Abj it use to  be orderly but now i dont understand how the city lost it
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: Dan-Borno on March 01, 2010, 09:05:02 AM
Quote from: gogannaka on February 24, 2010, 01:41:12 PM
........I ask the government to ban the importation and use of 2 stroke engines.

Bakangizo, you deliberately refused to allow your eyes to read
positively how gogannaka is very worried and concern about the
state of his beloveth city, kano, a kai admin ko a buhun borkono.
his above quote is very clear and both government and the people
of kano need to act quickly before our women start delivering
babies with defect due to the growing environmental problem he is
highlighting (bottom line of argument).

as to the issue of lively, manta dashi, ai tun da ya zauna a lagos,
lamarin gogannaka sai dai addu'a, kaga mu a nan kano bamu yin
wa joko lol.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: gogannaka on March 01, 2010, 10:06:11 AM
LOL,
DB,ai BKGZ da Muhsin da IBB duk are trying to defend the current state of Kano because of its historical background etc.
Historical background or whatever does not mean something cannot be done.
Kano ai bata kai Cairo ko Jerusalem ko Madina history ba ko zama cosmopolitan city but su sun gyara garuruwan su.
Na san its difficult to do so but idan ba'a yi ba haka zai yi ta deteriorating.We cannot just say that because of the history of a town ko kuma tun da ba'a gyara ba tun tuni (tun ran gini tun ran zane) nothing can be done now. Does that mean it will forever be like this or worse?
And the fact that almost all cities are like that is not an excuse to see things deteriorating.
If the authorities should see your vehement defense they would be glad.


DB,meye wajoko kuma?
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: bakangizo on March 01, 2010, 01:29:35 PM
Quote from: gogannaka on March 01, 2010, 10:06:11 AM
DB,ai BKGZ da Muhsin da IBB duk are trying to defend the current state of Kano because of its historical background etc.
Historical background or whatever does not mean something cannot be done.

No one said nothing can be done. Maybe my post wasn't clear to you. But didn't I even mentioned the effort the current govt is making? However, the wholesale changes you want, or you are suggesting, is not realistic.

QuoteKano ai bata kai Cairo ko Jerusalem ko Madina history ba ko zama cosmopolitan city but su sun gyara garuruwan su.

That's the problem. You can't just keep comparing cities. Because City 'A' has done this, City 'B' must also do that. Dan'uwa, the reality of this life isn't as simple as that. And I brought up the issue of history simply to point out why Kano is the way it is and how it came to be like this. Not that it shouldn't be tampered with because of its history. No. Something should be done, yes. In fact something is being done. Whether that is enough,or whether the right thing is being done, is a different matter. But to keep saying why shouldn't Kano have fresh air like Abuja, or 4-stroke engine achabas like Maiduguri, or be like town, A, B or C honestly doesn't sit well with my line of reasoning.

QuoteNa san its difficult to do so but idan ba'a yi ba haka zai yi ta deteriorating.We cannot just say that because of the history of a town ko kuma tun da ba'a gyara ba tun tuni (tun ran gini tun ran zane) nothing can be done now. Does that mean it will forever be like this or worse?

See above.

Quote from: Dan-Borno on March 01, 2010, 09:05:02 AM

Bakangizo, you deliberately refused to allow your eyes to read
positively how gogannaka is very worried and concern about the
state of his beloveth city, kano,

Not true. I acknowledged the existence of the problems he highlighted. I just don't agree with his summations and some of his suggestions.

Quoteas to the issue of lively, manta dashi, ai tun da ya zauna a lagos,
lamarin gogannaka sai dai addu'a, kaga mu a nan kano bamu yin
wa joko lol.

Lol, ai kasan tunda ya fara zagaya su Portharcourt da Legas da abuja, shikenan mu garuruwan mu sun zama kauyuka. Na san ran da ya je London, zai dawo yace mana sai an maida Kano kamar can  ;D

Quote from: IBB on February 25, 2010, 06:57:38 PM
Thump up BKGZ well said. However I cant imagine why you would prefer to live Maid (may be the Shuwas?). I spent half of my life in Abj it use to  be orderly but now i dont understand how the city lost it

Lol, ba don Shuwas bane. Ai da naje Maiduguri ma ban ga shuwan da ake ta kurantawa ba. Ko suna da anguwannin su ne dabam, ban sani ba. I just felt that if I'm to choose among the towns he mentioned, Maid is the one with a better feel of life and commerce. I said "life", not the "livability" irin na goga  ;D



Title: Kano to modernise markets
Post by: Muhsin on March 01, 2010, 04:33:11 PM
Kano to modernise markets

The Kano State Government says it is determined to boost commercial activities by  modernisng existing markets and building new ones.

Governor. Ibrahim Shekarau stated this on Saturday at the ongoing Kaduna International Trade Fair.

Shekarau, who was represented by the Commissioner for Commerce, Alhaji Ibrahim Yakassai, said the market initiative was designed to promote the growth of specialised products in the state.

One of such specialised products, he said, was fish and kola nuts.

The governor said although kola nuts were not grown in the North, they were mostly eaten by Northerners and had the largest market in Kano.

He also said the state was building an ultra modern market at the cost of N18 billion, adding that a fish market was also being constructed at the cost of N1.4 billion.

Yakassai said while its ultra modern market was not yet ready for use, work at the kola nut market was at 60 percent completion level.

He said 15,000 shops at the ultra modern market and 68 ware houses would be ready for occupation during the tenure of the Shekarau administration.

The commissioner said the markets were constructed under a private-public partnership (PPP) initiative.

Shekarau said government was only providing the land and the enabling environment for the markets.

He said the project had duration of five years and was financed by a commercial bank. (NAN)

Daily Trust (http://www.news.dailytrust.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14851:kano-to-modernise-markets&catid=36:property&Itemid=30)
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: gogannaka on March 01, 2010, 05:10:05 PM
Thanks for the information Muhsin.
I would have loved to know where the markets are and which commercial bank is sponsoring the projects.

BKGZ,ni ma da na je ban ga shuwa ko daya ba.
I think it is not a fault if i want Kano to be like London. I even want it to be better.

Here is another good development:

http://www.news.dailytrust.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14850:coy-to-build-665-houses-in-kano-suburb&catid=36:property&Itemid=30 (http://www.news.dailytrust.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14850:coy-to-build-665-houses-in-kano-suburb&catid=36:property&Itemid=30)

A company, SAW & Sons Limited, is constructing a 665-flat estate with school, market, hospital and police outpost in the western bypass of Kano State. Already structures are taking shape as construction work at the project site is in progress.
Speaking to newsmen when Kano State Governor Ibrahim Shekarau visited the project site, the Chairman/CEO of the company, Alhaji Salisu Abba Warure, said the project was aimed at providing houses to people at subsidised rates.

He said although many parts of the project site were covered with gully and ditches, his company ensured that the ground is levelled so that the construction works would begin proper. "When we levelled the surface, we constructed drainages so that there won't be erosion at the site anymore," he said.

Warure noted that the 665 plots were in the first phase of the project, and the second phase of the project may even surpass the current project. "The land we intend to dedicate for the second phase of the project is still ridden with gullies. So we intend to link the two projects since the lands are adjacent to each other," he said.

The chairman of the company said that they would give the houses to the people at affordable rates so that their company would contribute its own quota to the state government's city expansion plan.

He said the company had acquired enough machinery that would work tirelessly toward meeting the deadline.

While thanking the governor for supporting the project, he said the support would contribute immensely to the growth of the company.

Warure therefore revealed that his company had recorded success in project execution across the state, noting that his company does not secure loans from banks or any other financier.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: bakangizo on March 01, 2010, 05:34:44 PM
Quote from: gogannaka on March 01, 2010, 05:10:05 PM
Thanks for the information Muhsin.
I would have loved to know where the markets are and which commercial bank is sponsoring the projects.

The fish market is situated along the Eastern Byepass, IIRC. The ultra modern market is the same Kanawa Economic Project. It is being part-financed by Oceanic Bank. However, with the snail speed at which the project is executed, I doubt it would be concluded during this administration. I'm not surprised because since it is a PPP with a bank, we all know the situations of the banks now. So Oceanic bank would be hard pressed to meet its obligations on the project.

QuoteBKGZ,ni ma da na je ban ga shuwa ko daya ba.
I think it is not a fault if i want Kano to be like London. I even want it to be better.

Ai ina ji shuwa-shuwa nan su DB kadai suka san inda suke boye su. Amma fa ka san cewa ba kowace shuwa ce mai kyau ba. Most of dem no fine sef. E be like say na exargeration.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: Dan-Borno on March 01, 2010, 06:26:57 PM
Quote from: gogannaka on March 01, 2010, 05:10:05 PM
BKGZ,ni ma da na je ban ga shuwa ko daya ba.

ko dai ayi tofin Ala tsine in bakaga shuwa a *Kasuwan Shanu ba?
lallai yau za ayi tonon silili a gidannan


* Kasuwan Shanu is a shuwa arab dominated area in Maiduguri
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: IBB on March 01, 2010, 11:35:48 PM
Kai gaskia nima banga shuwa ba ko daya. Ko suna tsoron zafin rana ne?
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: Muhsin on March 02, 2010, 11:49:03 AM
Quote from: Bakan~Gizo on March 01, 2010, 05:34:44 PM
Most of dem no fine sef. E be like say na exargeration.

Subscribed.  ;D
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: bakangizo on March 02, 2010, 12:16:57 PM
Quote from: IBB on March 01, 2010, 11:35:48 PM
Kai gaskia nima banga shuwa ba ko daya. Ko suna tsoron zafin rana ne?

Wane tsoron rana za su ji? Bakake ne wulik irin mu ;D Kai ko DB yafi da yawa daga cikin su haske!
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: gogannaka on March 02, 2010, 01:58:06 PM
LOL,DB idan ma zan gan su ai ba a kasuwa zan gan su ba.
Sai dai ko Unimaid da ka kai ni.

You need to advice your government to standardise that market.
I was highly impressed with the market.
If only they could relocate the street traders into the market and provide good storage facilities and sanitation,it would be world class.

I also heard the Yankaba vegetable market and Yanlemo fruit market in Kano would be modernised.
Ni sai dai na gani a jarida amma bana jin labarin cewa an soma aiki.
Su kuma a ina suke?
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: gogannaka on March 08, 2010, 02:44:58 PM
Went to Kano recently.
I noticed the rate at which stores were being built.
I particularly noticed the ones at Gwarzo road.
Alot of them lined the streets but there wasn't a toilet in any of them.
Where will the people answer to the call of nature.
Kuma the rate at which people build shops is alarming.
The whole of the town is basically a market now.
Allah ya kyauta.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: gogannaka on March 12, 2010, 04:21:47 PM
Ana wata ga wata:

Just learnt that Kantin kwari market has burnt.
The fire started since 1am and has been raging uop till 1pm. That is 12 hrs.
Over 500 shops have been burnt down completely.
The national emergency management agency had to deploy a helicopter to fight the fire.
People say that the state fire service ran out of water and the chopper fetches water from a pond on court road.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: IBB on March 13, 2010, 07:29:52 PM
What caused it? Cigarette butt ko Zakka ce bata fita? Allah ya kiyaye gaba
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: gogannaka on March 15, 2010, 10:52:32 AM
It was caused by an electric spark that occurred when PHCN restored power to the market late at night.
There are many wooden tables covered with polythene bags in and around the marketplace.
Also all the shops had generators and some spare fuel because of the unavailability of electricity.
All these factors contributed greatly to the fire.

Allah ya mayar musu da alheri. Alot of money was lost.
Abun haushi kuma, freedom radio now kept airing inciting comments in order to elevate their feud with the government.
They reported that the fire service could not produce a bucket of water to fight the fire.
There were 16 fire fighting vehicles deployed to the market and they fought tirelessly and at no time were they out of water.
Their commentators kept asking where the billions of Naira spent for the tamburawa water works were. Imagine such unprofessional comments.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: bakangizo on March 15, 2010, 03:19:06 PM
Quote from: gogannaka on March 15, 2010, 10:52:32 AM
It was caused by an electric spark that occurred when PHCN restored power to the market late at night.
There are many wooden tables covered with polythene bags in and around the marketplace.
Also all the shops had generators and some spare fuel because of the unavailability of electricity.
All these factors contributed greatly to the fire.

Allah ya mayar musu da alheri. Alot of money was lost.
Abun haushi kuma, freedom radio now kept airing inciting comments in order to elevate their feud with the government.
They reported that the fire service could not produce a bucket of water to fight the fire.
There were 16 fire fighting vehicles deployed to the market and they fought tirelessly and at no time were they out of water.
Their commentators kept asking where the billions of Naira spent for the tamburawa water works were. Imagine such unprofessional comments.

You got the details right. Your first post on this, when you wrote that it was alledged that the fire service ran out of water, I knew the story has "freedom radio" written all over it. But I waited till I got to Kano over the weekend to confirm teh details of the fire incident. The Fire Service was there battling it to the end, aided by the NEMA helicopter. Private companies like Dantata & Sawoe, Standard Plastic Industies, etc, all sent in their water tankers and fire fighting equipments. This was a fire incident like no other. Over 3000 shops were burnt.

Freedom radio is now a stupid radio station. Very unprofessional and partisan. I have since stopped listening to them.

I heard there wwere fire incidents as well two markets in Bauchi and Maiduguri in the last two days.. Over 300 shops were burnt in Bauchi. Allah ya sauwake.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: gogannaka on March 15, 2010, 04:48:39 PM
Its quite a catastrophe.

Ai freedom radio,ever since they lost their former GM na daina sauraron su.
They were supposed to be sympathizing with the traders.

They state's economy will be affected by the fire.
I hope the state will use this opportunity to reorganize the markets and train the traders on methods of fire and accident prevention.
The traders need to be enlightened about the different kind of insurance policies that will help them in this kind of situation.

Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: Dan-Borno on March 15, 2010, 06:49:27 PM
what happened at kwari market is a tragedy, may Allah the
most high replace all what have been lost during the incidence.
this tragedy, is not only to the people of kano state but the
whole of nigeria and arewa in particular, because this market
serves as the centre point of all texttile business in the region
and both close and far neighbouring african countries.

as a muslim, i have been made to accept all things that came
my way as an act of God - may Allah guide us.

this incidence should be an eye opener to not only kantin kwari
people but its a signal to all other markets in nigeria.  during an
infernor in the famous maiduguri monday market, fire fighters
were not able to reach out because of the lack of passage in
the market and it was allowed to burn down completely but thanks
to this government, it has decongest the market and bulldozed
all illegal construction within the market, you can now freely
move within the market with your car or motorcycle unlike before.

this is the right time kantin kwari market will be modernised to give
access road into the market.  fire fighting equipment such as fire
extinguishers should be made compulsory in every shop - they can
do it, just as they roared on customs officers years back.


this picture is a memory of kantin kwari which i visited last two weeks
infact, i snapped this picture in admiration of the commitment of the
young men in the market

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t124/busuguma/pix024.jpg)









Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: bakangizo on March 16, 2010, 12:20:36 PM
Yes. It is indeed time to rebuild the market to conform with modernity and safety standards. But knowing our people, expect a fierce resistance. It is plain unfortunate that in this country, and particularly this part of the country, we are not organized. We don't anticipate problems and work towards avoiding them. No, we simply wait until they happen, then we start scrambling for solutions.
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: HUSNAA on March 16, 2010, 09:40:35 PM
I agree with you BKG. If anything ai kafin kantin kwari ta kone, there have been serious fires at Sabon gari market and singer in the last two yrs. Singer's case ought to alert kantin kwari since congestion at singer went a long way towards an almost complete incineration of the depot. People should have taken precaution since then and taken heed in the literal sense, of the saying that ''in kaga gemun dan uwanka ya kama da wuta, ka shafa wa naka ruwa''. Well no one did and this is the result.
As for Freedom Radio, well it is boring, however, as I am not much in cahoots with the incumbent govt, I am not going to diss FR. I think they are absolutely right when they criticized the govt.  It is rather contradictory to say that the fire service was very active when all the water and equipments were supplied by the private sector (NEMA helicopter, Dantata and Sawoe Standard Plastics  all sent their water tankers and fire fighting equipments). So why did all these companies have to come to the aid of the fire service if it were adequately equipped by the state govt? Wai ba za a fadi gaskiya bane? Suma yan fire service din, in da za a ji ta bakinsu da sai sun kyamaci gwamnatin nan. Dan dai ita ke biyan su albashi shi yasa baza su ce wani aibu akan ta ba. Amma kuma if truth be told, ai its their lives that are constantly in danger throu the gross negligence of the govt!!!!!
Wannan fashe fashen titunan ma went a  great way in slowing down efforts to put out the fire!! Amma kuma wai in an fada sai ace wai Freedom radio sun ci mutuncin gwamnati! Wai ita in gwamnatin arziki ce, ta kyale ai criticizing din ta mana!! We are not living under a dictatorship and in any case u cant please everybody so its simply being naive and stupid not to expect ciriticism...
Title: Re: Gyaran chikin birnin kano............
Post by: bakangizo on March 20, 2010, 11:02:19 AM
QuoteWannan fashe fashen titunan ma went a  great way in slowing down efforts to put out the fire!! Amma kuma wai in an fada sai ace wai Freedom radio sun ci mutuncin gwamnati! Wai ita in gwamnatin arziki ce, ta kyale ai criticizing din ta mana!! We are not living under a dictatorship and in any case u cant please everybody so its simply being naive and stupid not to expect ciriticism...

I want to start with this just to drive home a point-  that in as much as we want to comment on  issues like this, our emotions invariably ensures that our views come out no different from the ordinary man on the streets. Your statement just rhymes with wani dan achaba da na hau daga Hadejia Road zuwa Bata. When we passed through a bad patch, just close to Wellcare Pharmacy/Superstore, he started complaning that instead of the govt repairing this very road, they were wasting time and money doing the Club Road. I instantly told him that even if the govt refused to do Club Road and turn its attention to Hadejia road, they would still complain that why is the govt repairing Hadejia raod instaed of Club Road? He kept quite! You see, the problem is whatever the govt (or rather this govt) does, people would still find fault with it. This govt has shown tolerance towards criticism more than any other I have never seen. I have not seen a govt that is on the line of fire daily, taking flaks constantly, like this. I make bold to say that it principally due to Shekarau's tolerance and accomodation of criticisms that stations like FR have the audacity to make it a point of duty to embark on a fault-finding mission daily. Ai muna zuwa wasu jihohin, kuma muna ganin yadda ba wanda ya isa yayi musu irin wanna cin kashin da ake yi wa Shekarau.  Just cast your mind back to the time of Kwamkwaso. You don't dare do this. We all knew what happened between Ray Power RAdio and Kano state govt then,, when they aired a program criticising Kwankwaso's govt.

It is in our nature to shape our analysis of public affairs according to our political inclinations. Bottom line, sentiments drives what we say, how we say it, and how we interpret issues. I'm really not expecting to read something like from you, but then on the onther hand, I'm not!!!! Because what you are basically saying is that the govt should not repair/rebuild the roads, in anticipation of fire incidents right? Like, "okay guys there's going to be fire outbreaks in the town anytime, anywhere, so no bad roads should be repaired in the metropolis".

Quote from: HUSNAA on March 16, 2010, 09:40:35 PM
As for Freedom Radio, well it is boring, however, as I am not much in cahoots with the incumbent govt, I am not going to diss FR. I think they are absolutely right when they criticized the govt.  It is rather contradictory to say that the fire service was very active when all the water and equipments were supplied by the private sector (NEMA helicopter, Dantata and Sawoe Standard Plastics  all sent their water tankers and fire fighting equipments). So why did all these companies have to come to the aid of the fire service if it were adequately equipped by the state govt? Wai ba za a fadi gaskiya bane? Suma yan fire service din, in da za a ji ta bakinsu da sai sun kyamaci gwamnatin nan. Dan dai ita ke biyan su albashi shi yasa baza su ce wani aibu akan ta ba. Amma kuma if truth be told, ai its their lives that are constantly in danger throu the gross negligence of the govt!!!!!

Freedom Radio typifies everything bad with a private radio station. It is a perfect example of how partial, disgrutled private media house can be turned into a vindictive machine. It's like the station is on a special crusade to vilify, castigate and castigate the govt. For God's sake, no one said the govt shouldn't be criticised. Ba'a hana fadan gaskiya ba, but when all you do to dig whatever dirt you can find in EVERY SITUATION, and then make it known directly or indirectly that tha is your primary mission, then you've lost whatever justification you may have in any claim of doing a public good by "exposing" the inadequacies and excesses of the govt. Let me reming you that Freedom radio is not the radion station we have here. Heck, it isn't even the only private station, but it is the only one that seem to have abrogated to itself the right of a  "holy war" against the present govt. All the other stations have their programs (Siyasar Kano sai Kano, Hannu daya... etc) in which the public come to air their views on a daily basis and criticise the govt. But it is on on FR za ka ji kaskanci da zagi na rashin mutuchi.

Talking about that fire, it is totally mischivious for FR to claim that the fire service ran out water. If they rann out of water, then where did teh NEMA helicopter got their water from? Or where did the private companies vehicles got their's from?> Wani gari suka je suka samo? Ina ce duk inda suka je samo ruwan in dai a Kano ne, suma fire service din zasu iya zuwa gurin su debo? The NEMA 'Copter was their because there's no access for the fire service trucks insidde the market, not because they failed. Initially FR claimed that they the fire service arrived late, then they discovered that won't sell, they later claimed that they ran out of water. Wai dai dole sai an fadi laifi. In dai haka gidan rediyo yake kamar FR, wanda aikin su kawai a tono laifi ne karfi da yaji don a hada jama'a fada da gwamnati, to Allah ya raba mu da shi!! Bashi da amfani.