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chit-chat / Home Coming
« on: April 07, 2016, 05:03:21 PM »
Dear all,

Really don't know how to start, is like I'm lost! where are the old "foruminites" this is call for a reunion after almost decade of hibernation!
Hello all ;D ;D ;D

General Board / Saying Hello to Old Pals
« on: April 07, 2016, 04:50:17 PM »
Dear all,
Indeed it has been quite a long time. Don't even know where and how to start again, after years of hibernation. Please where is everybody?
G-naka, Muhsin , Dan-borno and one other person I forgot nice seeing you still around.

chit-chat / TOWARDS A BETTER K-ONLINE...................................
« on: November 01, 2008, 05:50:52 PM »
"kowa ya tuna bara, baiji dadin bana ba!"
reflecting those good time we had, today one can't really comprehend what's the real problem with the forum? we all know that the Admin has been doing his best to keep the forum as vibrant as possible and yet the forum still seem retrogressing in terms of intellectualism, creativity and etc.

the point now is what is the problem?
what are the measures to be taken?
how do we takle the problem(s)?

but one thing i'm really craving for, is a vibrant k-online!

« on: October 07, 2008, 08:26:15 PM »
Nigeria at 48, progress or retrogress? "Nigeria has not only a right, but also a tremendous duty to become independent, so that she may play her proper part in the affairs of the nation…………….as the country of the African continent having by far the largest population, we shall inevitably occupy an important position from the moment we become independent…………..our slightest act our every word, will have repercussions on our neighbors, and I am confident that Nigeria will probe to be stabilizing force in Africa, that our example will induce conditions favorable to orderly progress and development." - Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, Nigeria’s first and only Prime Minister (October, 1960)
1st October supposes to be a great and indeed a historic day for all Nigerians, but that seem an obsolete phenomena now. It is very pathetic for true patriots that in forty eight years we virtually lost almost all the tutelage of our ancestors and we seem to be crawling instead of running on our feet’s. Thanks to those sadomasochists! Those Nationalist that sacrificed all they possessed, above all their lives for Nigeria to come to being; Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, Sir Ahmadu Bello, the Sardauna of Sokoto, Chief Nmandi Azikwe and like would have, have a second thought for their selfless action had it been known to them that all their efforts will be held at ransom by opportunistic predators!
 "Among certain people to-day, there is too much craving for wealth. Let us remember that money is not all. Money without integrity is dishonorable. If I have plenty of money, does it really mean that my children will not squander it? If they do, all the hoarding has been worthless. And if I acquire wealth dishonorably the dishonor remains long after the wealth has been squandered".
How right these statements were then and how very wrong are they in to-day’s Nigeria!In his believe and his likes then and nowadays honesty and good name were and are all that really matters. May his soul and all the like rest in peace, to the end of time that name and it likes were written in gold and grateful Nigerians shall remain for all they have done to the making of Nigeria a sovereign nation. The statements are very wrong in to-day’s Nigeria because good name, honesty and integrity were for long been replaced by greed, selfishness, looting, sadomasochism and oppression as yardstick for public respect. In to-day’s Nigeria, money is everything; the respect one earns from the public is directly proportionate to his ruthlessly acquired wealth at all cost.
"Let us now reflect on what it means for Nigeria to be independent. Although independent means freedom, it is not freedom of the jungle where might is right. We are not free to molest others less strong than ourselves or trample with their right simply because we are in a position of authority over them…………………… the eyes of the world are on Nigeria now and there are many friends who hope we shall be the leading nation in Africa. Let me say with all the emphasis at my command that we shall never attain this goal if there is suspicion and mistrust among the people of Nigeria ………………" – Sir Ahmadu Bello, the Sardauna of Sokoto (October, 1960)Sardauna had failed to vision the present day Nigeria he would have reframe his statement above! For in present Nigeria, those in authority not only molest or trample on the right of others but they do exploit, punish, terrorize and hold them at ransom in their own fatherland. They are denied medical attention, no proper and healthy water supply, no good roads, no security to lives and properties, no adequate education, no agricultural provisions, no social amenities and the most painful and barbaric of all the masses can not vote the people they deem fit for their mandate, those that will respond to their aspirations and yearnings! This is despite the billions of dollars being realized on daily basis. It is being said that the revenue generated from 1999 to date is by far more than that generated from Independence to 1998! How pathetic? Talking about dividend of democracy, I think our way to attainment of such is really far and not at this trend. We just need to change our attitude and in vive the tutelage of the heroes of the past the men of honor, reputation and integrity. An eye opener to the present so called politicians and democrats!


Sports / Nigeria in good hands............
« on: September 10, 2007, 07:54:43 PM »

A little after celebrating his 100 days in office, President Yar'adua has begin recording success by winning the undre 17 world cup, the like Mr Otta couldn't deliver in 8 solid years! this makes me wonder if afterall Nigeria was not in good hands all those years! :'(

chit-chat / Maiden speech...........
« on: May 07, 2007, 02:41:19 PM »

Sank you, sank you, my pellow Naijurians por ze goodwill messages.

I want to sank you por not boting por me as fresident of ze Pederal
Refublic of Naijuria. But I received ze most imfortant botes prom
Fresident Obasanjo and INEC. Zis is why I have now been declared ze
of ze elections and ze fresident-elect of ze Pederal Refublic of
Nagode to Obasanjo and nagode to INEC, for zia beri beri imfortant

Ze pirst task of my new gwament is to fray por feace and stability in
Naijuria. I will now ask all ze depeated fresidential candidates to
me in a gwament of national unity. So I will bring back my priends like
Atiku, General Babangida and Buhari into my new gwament.

I sink Atiku will be good as ze new head of ze EFCC. Fresident Obasanjo
should not worry about my gwament frobing him, gaskiya, at least until
apter May 29. Babangida will be ze new minister por pinance, and Buhari
will be in charge of ze ministry of War Against Indiscifline.

My fipul, ze task bepore us is a great one, walahi talahi. I don't know
where to start, but I want to ashuwa you zat I will act in consultation
with all ze emirs and imams.

I am now going to Germany por treatment por exhaustion prom making zis
sfeech. I shall be back por ze swearing in ceremony, insha Allahu.

One Nigeria, one Fee-Di-Fee, Fower to ze fipul.

Mr President.

General Board / My observation a month to 2007 general election
« on: May 07, 2007, 02:15:13 PM »

Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:54:25 -0700 (PDT)
From:  "bashir lawan" <> 
Subject: My view about the forthcomimg general elections

    The Buhari’s Dilemma
It’s now very clear to all that there is a marked misunderstanding within the major opposition party, All Nigerian People Party (ANPP) As an admirer of Gen. Muhammadu Buhari and consequently the ANPP, the fraction in the Party has put us ( the well wishers) in great jeopardy. I believe all reasonable Nigerians respect the principles of our hero Gen. Buhari. But unfortunately as it turned out to be, there are some unscrupulous individuals from within the Party that are determined to disrupt the long standing aspirations and prayers of the masses for a better Nigeria.
Now without any bias, regarding the issue objectively one can not overlook the fact that the background of the problem arises from the notorious The Buhari Organization (TBO) The people that constitute the organization to my naïve political analysis are no better than what I regarded whole heartedly as ‘opportunists’. Even after dissolution of the organization by Buhari himself and incorporating it to the Party’s campaign network, the ‘power mongers’ persisted for a reason best known to them.
Taking Kano State as a case study, let’s analyze the party’s condition. Firstly there is long outstanding division since the State’s General Convention from which Alh Sani Hashim Hotoro emerges as the State Chairman of the Party. Alh. Ahmadu Haruna Zago and others cried for injustice and since then the faction was constantly attacking the Government in which majority of them where part of. Coincidently the faction is part of the TBO, so these ungrateful ‘Poolitians’ seized the opportunity to blackmail the Government, they created all sort of lies and instigate the ‘alleged problem’ between Gen Buhari and the State Government. The most disheartened situation was how they succeeded in persuading the General to accept the fact that Kano State Government is against him!
Secondly, after the National ANPP Convention, same people propagated the alleged underground manipulations by Kano State delegates at the Convention to vote the candidates from other camp than Buhari’s. Surprisingly the General himself declared a foul play by the Kano delegates. This declaration has tarnish the image of Gen. Buhari though not very pronounced. To many politicians Buhari should have remain silent about it, least sighting example of rigging by mentioning Kano, despise the great inevitable love we have for him!
Thirdly and most serious of all was the recent second term campaign gathering of Mal. Shekarau. Gen Buhari was said to turn down the invitation sent to him. With all sincere respect to the General whom I respect most seriously, that was a political blunder. Former Presidential aspirant Alh. Bashir Othman Tofa was reported to have ask the voters to vote for the ANPP for the gubernatorial position downward, but for the presidential post, let anybody suit himself. To the best of my judgment he has said the right thing; I would do same in his position.
Why because the General has simply refuse to honor their invitation which means he does not care about winning the gubernatorial post and invariably the presidential. At this critical moment I believe that gesture is a political suicide!
Considering the following observation;
Northwestern States, Sokoto predominantly led by DPP, Kebbi by PDP, Zamfara just recently Gov Yarima resign as the presidential campaign Director, Jigawa led by PDP, Kaduna ANPP in crises for Gubernatorial candidate, Katsina the hope of PDP,  and now putting Kano the sit of opposition and every politician hope in confusing.
Northeastern States, Adamawa the hope of AC, Taraba led by PDP, Gombe led by PDP, Bauchi the home of Adamu Muazu, one of the best PDP Governors, Yobe led by the most controversial Governor, Borno the sit of most powerful ANPP Governor, there is hope there.
Middle belt region, Plateau led by ‘PDPAC’, Nassarawa led by PDP, Kogi led by PDP, Kwara the home of most influential political Guru, Alh Sola Saraki, Niger led by PDP and home of hilltop Generals, Benue led by PDP. And of course Abuja is also predominantly PDP.
Now looking at the trend to which the nature of Nigerian election is being subjected to, Buhari has a lot burden to deal with already, least creating more enemies.


chit-chat / No matter what happens in your life.................
« on: September 03, 2006, 10:54:05 AM »

Dear all,

Thought I should share this with you all!  

Sometimes we just need to be reminded!

A well-known speaker started off his seminar by

holding up a $20.00 bill. In the room of 200, he asked,

"Who would like this $20 bill?"

Hands started going up.

He said, "I am going to give this $20 to one of you

but first, let me do this.

He proceeded to crumple up the $20 dollar bill.

He then asked, "Who still wants it?"

Still the hands were up in the air.

Well, he replied, "What if I do this?"

And he dropped it on the ground

and started to grind it into the floor with his shoe.

He picked it up, now crumpled and dirty.

"Now, who still wants it?"

Still the hands went into the air.

My friends, we have all learned a very valuable lesson.

No matter what I did to the money, you still wanted it

because it did not decrease in value.

It was still worth $20.

Many times in our lives,

we are dropped, crumpled, and ground into the dirt

by the decisions we make and

the circumstances that come our way.

We feel as though we are worthless.

But no matter what has happened or

what will happen, you will never lose your value.

Dirty or clean, crumpled or finely creased,

you are still priceless to those who DO LOVE you.

The worth of our lives comes not in what we do or who we know,


You are special- Don't EVER forget it."

If you do not pass this on, you may never know the

lives it touches, the hurting hearts it speaks to,

or the hope that it can bring.

Count your blessings, not your problems.

"And remember: amateurs built the ark ..

Professionals built the Titanic.

If God brings you to it - He will bring you through it.



chit-chat / SATANIC CONFERENCE........................
« on: June 04, 2006, 12:16:45 PM »
>(Read even if you're busy)
>Satan called a worldwide convention of demons. In his opening address
>"We can't keep Muslims from going to Mosque."
>"We can't keep them from reading their Quran and knowing the truth."
>"We can't even keep them from forming an intimate relationship with
>Allah and his messenger Muhammad."
>"Once they gain that connection with Allah, our power over them is
>"So let them go to their Mosques; let them have their covered dish
>BUT steal their time, so they don't have time to develop a
>with Allah and his messnger Muhammad."
>"This is what I want you to do," said the devil:
>"Distract them from gaining hold of their Allah and maintaining that
>connection throughout their day!"
>"How shall we do this?" his demons shouted.
>"Keep them busy in the non-essentials of life and invent innumerable
>schemes to occupy their minds," he answered.
>"Tempt them to spend, spend, spend, and borrow, borrow, borrow."
>"Persuade the wives to go to work for long hours and the husbands to
>6-7 days each week, 10-12 hours a day, so they can afford their empty
>"Keep them from spending time with their children."
>"As their families fragment, soon, their homes will offer no escape
>the pressures of work!"
>"Over-stimulate their minds so that they cannot hear that still, small
>"Entice them to play the radio or cassette player whenever they
>"To keep the TV, VCR, CDs and their PCs going constantly in their home
>see to it that every store and restaurant in the
>world plays  music constantly."
>"This will jam their minds and break that union with Allah and his
>messenger Muhammad."
>"Fill the coffee tables with magazines and newspapers."
>"Pound their minds with the news 24 hours a day."
>"Invade their driving moments with billboards."
>"Flood their mailboxes with junk mail, mail order catalogs,
>sweepstakes, and every kind of newsletter and promotional offering
>products, services and false hopes."
>"Keep skinny, beautiful models on the magazines and TV so their
>husbands will believe that outward beauty is what's important, and
>become dissatisfied with their wives. "
>"Keep the wives too tired to love their husbands at night."
>Give them headaches too!
>"If they don't give their husbands the love they need, they will begin
>look elsewhere."
>"That will fragment their families quickly!"
>"Give them story books to distract them from teaching their children
>real meaning of Salat."
>"Keep them too busy to go out in nature and reflect on Allah's
>creation. Send them to amusement parks, sporting events, plays,
>concerts, and movies instead. "Keep them busy, busy, busy!"
>"And when they meet for spiritual fellowship, involve them in gossip
>small talk so that they leave with troubled consciences."
>"Crowd their lives with so many good causes they have no time to
>seek power from Allah."
>"Soon they will be working in their own strength, sacrificing their
>and family for the good of the cause."
>"It will work!" "It will work!"
>It was quite a plan!
>The demons went eagerly to their assignments causing Muslims
>everywhere to get busier and more rushed, going here and there.
>Having little time for their Allah or their families.
>Having no time to tell others about the power of Allah and his
>messenger Muhammad to change lives.
>I guess the question is, has the devil been successful in his
>You be the judge!!!!!
>Somebody said to me "BUSY" means:
>B-eing  U-nder  S-atan's  Y-oke?
>Please pass this on, if you aren't too BUSY

General Board / Ahmadinejad's letter to Bush
« on: May 27, 2006, 05:36:31 PM »
12th Rabil 'Thanni, 1427 A.H.

Ahmadinejad's Letter to Bush
Iran's foreign ministry on Tuesday said it was waiting for a response from US President George W. Bush to a surprise letter sent by the Islamic republic's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Here is the text of the letter, obtained by AFP.
Mr. George Bush,

President of the United States of America

For sometime now I have been thinking, how one can justify the undeniable contradictions that exist in the international arena- which are being constantly debated, especially in political forums and amongst university students. Many questions remain unanswered. These have prompted me to discuss some of the contradictions and questions, in the hopes that it might bring about an opportunity to redress them.

Can one be a follower of Jesus Christ (PBUH), the great Messenger of God,

Feel obliged to respect human rights,

Present liberalism as a civilization model,

Announce one's opposition to the proliferation of nuclear weapons and WMDs,

Make "War and Terror" his slogan,

And finally,

Work towards the establishment of a unified international community- a community which Christ and the virtuous of the Earth will one day govern,

But at the same time,

Have countries attacked. The lives, reputations and possessions of people destroyed and on the slight chance of the presence of a few criminals in a village, city or convoy for example, the entire village, city or convoy set ablaze.

Or because of the possibility of the existence of WMDs in one country, it is occupied , around one hundred thousand people killed, its water sources, agriculture and industry destroyed, close to 180,000 foreign troops put on the ground, sanctity of private homes of citizens broken, and the country pushed back perhaps fifty years. At what price? Hundreds of billions of dollars spent from the treasury of one country and certain other countries and tens of thousands of young men and women- as occupation troops- put in harms way, taken away from family and loved ones, their hands stained with the blood of others, subjected to so much psychological pressure that everyday some commit suicide and those returning home suffer depression, become sickly and grapple with all sorts of aliments; while some are killed and their bodies handed to their families.

On the pretext of the existence of WMDs, this great tragedy came to engulf both the peoples of the occupied and the occupying country. Later it was revealed that no WMDs existed to begin with. Of course Saddam was a murderous dictator. But the war was not waged to topple him, the announced goal of the war was to find and destroy weapons of mass destruction. He was toppled along the way towards another goal; nevertheless the people of the region are happy about it. I point out that throughout the many years of the imposed war on Iran Saddam was supported by the West.

Mr. President,

You might know that I am a teacher. My students ask me how can these actions be reconciled with the values outlined at the beginning of this letter and duty to the tradition of Jesus Christ (PBUH), the Messenger of peace and forgiveness? There are prisoners in Guantanamo Bay that have not been tried, have no legal representation, their families cannot see them and are obviously kept in a strange land outside their own country. There is no international monitoring of their conditions and fate. No one knows whether they are prisoners, POWs, accused or criminals.

European investigators have confirmed the existence of secret prisons in Europe too. I could not correlate the abduction of a person, and him or her being kept in secret prisons, with the provisions of any judicial system. For that matter, I fail to understand how such actions correspond to the values outlined in the beginning of this letter, i.e. the teachings of Jesus Christ (PBUH), human rights and liberal values. Young people, university students, and ordinary people have many questions about the phenomenon of Israel. I am sure you are familiar with some of them. Throughout history many countries have been occupied, but I think the establishment of a new country with a new people, is a new phenomenon that is exclusive to our times.

Students are saying that sixty years ago such a country did not exist. They show old documents and globes and say try as we have, we have not been able to find a country named Israel.

I tell them to study the history of World War I and II. One of my students told me that during WWII, which more than tens of millions of people perished in, news about the war, was quickly disseminated by the warring parties. Each touted their victories and the most recent battlefront defeat of the other party. After the war they claimed that six million Jews had been killed. Six million people that were surely related to at least two million families. Again let us assume that these events are true. Does that logically translate into the establishment of the state of Israel in the Middle East or support for such a state? How can this phenomenon be rationalized or explained?

Mr. President,

I am sure you know how -- and at what cost -- Israel was established:

- Many thousands were killed in the process.

- Millions of indigenous people were made refugees.

- Hundreds of thousands of hectares of farmland, olive plantations, towns and villages were destroyed.

This tragedy is not exclusive to the time of establishment; unfortunately it has been ongoing for sixty years now. A regime has been established which does not show mercy even to kids, destroys houses while the occupants are still in them, announces beforehand its list and plans to assassinate Palestinian figures, and keeps thousands of Palestinians in prison. Such a phenomenon is unique- or at the very least extremely rare- in recent memory. Another big question asked by the people is "why is this regime being supported?" Is support for this regime in line with the teachings of Jesus Christ (PBUH) or Moses (PBUH) or liberal values? Or are we to understand that allowing the original inhabitants of these lands -- inside and outside Palestine -- whether they are Christian, Muslim or Jew, to determine their fate, runs contrary to principles of democracy, human rights and the teachings of prophets? If not, why is there so much opposition to a referendum?

The newly elected Palestinian administration recently took office. All independent (observers) have confirmed that this government represents the electorate. Unbelievingly, they have put the elected government under pressure and have advised it to recognize the Israeli regime, abandon the struggle and follow the programs of the previous government. If the current Palestinian government had run on the above platform, would the Palestinian people have voted for it? Again, can such position taken in opposition to the Palestinian government be reconciled with the values outlined earlier? The people are also saying "why are all UNSC (UN Security Council) resolutions in condemnation of Israel vetoed?"

Mr. President,

As you are well aware, I live amongst the people and am in constant contact with them- many people from around the Middle East manage to contact me as well. They do not have faith in these dubious policies either. There is evidence that the people of the region are becoming increasingly angry with such policies. It is not my intention to pose too many questions, but I need to refer to other points as well. Why is it that any technological and scientific achievement reached in the Middle East region is translated into and portrayed as a threat to the Zionist regime? Is not scientific R and D one of the basic rights of nations?

You are familiar with history. Aside from the Middle Ages, in what other point in history has scientific and technical progress been a crime? Can the possibility of scientific achievements being utilized for military purposes be reason enough to oppose science and technology altogether? If such a supposition is true, then all scientific disciplines, including physics, chemistry, mathematics, medicine, engineering, etc. must be opposed. Lies were told in the Iraqi matter. What was the result? I have no doubt that telling lies is reprehensible in any culture, and you do not like to be lied to.

Mr. President,

Don't Latin Americans have the right to ask why their elected governments are being opposed and coup leaders supported? Or, Why must they constantly be threatened and live in fear?

The people of Africa are hardworking, creative and talented. They can play an important and valuable role in providing for the needs of humanity and contribute to its material and spiritual progress. Poverty and hardship in large parts of Africa are preventing this from happening. Don't they have the right to ask why their enormous wealth -- including minerals -- is being looted, despite the fact that they need it more than others? Again, do such actions correspond to the teachings of Christ and the tenets of human rights?

The brave and faithful people of Iran too have many questions and grievances, including: the coup d'etat of 1953 and the subsequent toppling of the legal government of the day, opposition to the Islamic revolution, transformation of an Embassy into a headquarters supporting the activities of those opposing the Islamic Republic (many thousands of pages of documents corroborate this claim), support for Saddam in the war waged against Iran, the shooting down of the Iranian passenger plane, freezing the assets of the Iranian nation, increasing threats, anger and displeasure vis-a-vis the scientific and nuclear progress of the Iranian nation (just when all Iranians are jubilant and celebrating their country's progress), and many other grievances that I will not refer to in this letter.

Mr. President,

September Eleven was a horrendous incident. The killing of innocents is deplorable and appalling in any part of the world. Our government immediately declared its disgust with the perpetrators and offered its condolences to the bereaved and expressed its sympathies. All governments have a duty to protect the lives, property and good standing of their citizens. Reportedly your government employs extensive security, protection and intelligence systems- and even hunts its opponents abroad. September Eleven was not a simple operation. Could it be planned and executed without coordination with intelligence and security services- or their extensive infiltration? Of course this is just an educated guess. Why have the various aspects of the attacks been kept secret? Why are we not told who botched their responsibilities? And, why aren't those responsible and the guilty parties identified and put on trial?

All governments have a duty to provide security and peace of mind for their citizens. For some years now, the people of your country and neighbors of world trouble spots do not have peace of mind. After 9/11, instead of healing and tending to the emotional wounds of the survivors and the American people- who had been immensely traumatized by the attacks- some Western media only intensified the climates of fear and insecurity- some constantly talked about the possibility of new terror attacks and kept the people in fear. Is that service to the American people? Is it possible to calculate the damages incurred from fear and panic?

American citizens lived in constant fear of fresh attacks that could come at any moment and in any place. They felt insecure in the streets, in their place of work and at home. Who would be happy with this situation? Why was the media, instead of conveying a feeling of security and providing peace of mind, giving rise to a feeling of insecurity?

Some believe that the hype paved the way- and was the justification- for an attack on Afghanistan. Again I need to refer to the role of media. In media charters, correct dissemination of information and honest reporting of a story are established tenets. I express my deep regret about the disregard shown by certain Western media for these principles. The main pretext for an attack on Iraq was the existence of WMDs. This was repeated incessantly- for the public to finally believe- and the ground set for an attack on Iraq. Will the truth not be lost in a contrived and deceptive climate? Again, if the truth is allowed to be lost, how can that be reconciled with the earlier mentioned values? Is the truth known to the Almighty lost as well?

Mr. President,

In countries around the world, citizens provide for the expenses of governments so that their governments in turn are able to serve them. The question here is "what has the hundreds of billions of dollars, spent every year to pay for the Iraqi campaign, produced for the citizens?" As your Excellency is aware, in some states of your country, people are living in poverty. Many thousands are homeless and unemployment is a huge problem. Of course these problems exist- to a larger or lesser extent- in other countries as well. With these conditions in mind, can the gargantuan expenses of the campaign- paid from the public treasury- be explained and be consistent with the aforementioned principles? What has been said are some of the grievances of the people around the world, in our region and in your country. But my main contention- which I am hoping you will agree to some of it- is:

Those in power have a specific time in office and do not rule indefinitely, but their names will be recorded in history and will be constantly judged in the immediate and distant futures. The people will scrutinize our presidencies. Did we (manage) to bring peace, security and prosperity for the people or insecurity and unemployment? Did we intend to establish justice or just supported (special) interest groups, and by forcing many people to live in poverty and hardship, ma de a few people rich and powerful- thus trading the approval of the people and the Almighty with theirs? Did we defend the rights of the underprivileged or ignore them? Did we defend the rights of all people around the world or imposed wars on them, interfered illegally in their affairs, established hellish prisons and incarcerated some of them? Did we bring the world peace and security or raised the specter of intimidation and threats? Did we tell the truth to our nation and others around the world or presented an inverted version of it? Were we on the side of people or the occupiers and oppressors? Did our administrations set out to promote rational behavior, logic, ethics, peace, fulfilling obligations, justice, service to the people, prosperity, progress and respect for human dignity or the force of guns, Intimidation, insecurity, disregard for the people, delaying the progress and excellence of other nations, and trample on people's rights? And finally, they will judge us on whether we remained true to our oath of office- to serve the people, which is our main task, and the traditions of the prophets- or not?

Mr. President,

How much longer can the world tolerate this situation? Where will this trend lead the world to? How long must the people of the world pay for the incorrect decisions of some rulers? How much longer will the specter of insecurity- raised from the stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction- hunt the people of the world? How much longer will the blood of the innocent men, women and children be spilled on the streets, and people's houses destroyed over their heads? Are you pleased with the current condition of the world? Do you think present policies can continue? If the billions of dollars spent on security, military campaigns and troop movement were instead spent on investment and assistance for poor countries, promotion of health, combating different diseases, education and improvement of mental and physical fitness, assistance to the victims of natural disasters, creation of employment opportunities and production, development projects and poverty alleviation, establishment of peace, mediation between disputing states, and distinguishing the flames of racial, ethnic and other conflicts, (where) would the world be today? Would not your government and people be justifiably proud? Would not your administration's political and economic standing have been stronger? And I am most sorry to say, would there have been an ever increasing global hatred of the American government?

Mr. President, it is not my intention to distress anyone.


If Prophet Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ishmael, Joseph, or Jesus Christ (PBUH) were with us today, how would they have judged such behavior? Will we be given a role to play in the promised world, where justice will become universal and Jesus Christ (PBUH) will be present? Will they even accept us? My basic question is this: Is there no better way to interact with the rest of the world? Today there are hundreds of millions of Christians, hundreds of millions of Moslems and millions of people who follow the teachings of Moses (PBUH). All divine religions share and respect one word and that is "monotheism" or belief in a single God and no other in the world.

The Holy Koran stresses this common word and calls on all followers of divine religions and says: (3.64) Say: O followers of the Book! Come to an equitable proposition between us and you that we shall not serve any but Allah and (that) we shall not associate aught with Him and (that) some of us shall not take others for lords besides Allah; but if they turn back, then say: Bear witness that we are Muslims. (The Family of Imran)

Mr. President,

According to divine verses, we have all been called upon to worship one God and follow the teachings of divine Prophets. "To worship a God which is above all powers in the world and can do all He pleases." "The Lo rd which knows that which is hidden and visible, the past and the future, knows what goes on in the Hearts of His servants and records their deeds." "The Lord who is the possessor of the heavens and the earth and all universe is His court" "Planning for the universe is done by His hands, and gives His servants the glad tidings of mercy and forgiveness of sins" "He is the companion of the oppressed and the enemy of oppressors" "He is the Compassionate, the Merciful" "He is the recourse of the faithful and guides them towards the light from darkness" "He is witness to the actions of His servants" "He calls on servants to be faithful and do good deeds, and asks them to stay on the path of righteousness and remain steadfast" "Calls on servants to heed His prophets and He is a witness to their deeds" "A bad ending belongs only to those who have chosen the life of this world and disobey Him and oppress His servants" and "A good end and eternal paradise belong to those servants who fear H is majesty and do not follow their lascivious selves." We believe a return to the teachings of the divine prophets is the only road leading to salvation. I have been told that Your Excellency follows the teachings of Jesus (PBUH) and believes in the divine promise of the rule of the righteous on Earth.

We also believe that Jesus Christ (PBUH) was one of the great prophets of the Almighty. He has been repeatedly praised in the Koran. Jesus (PBUH) has been quoted in Koran as well: (19.36) And surely Allah is my Lord and your Lord, therefore serve Him; this is the right path.
Service to and obedience of the Almighty is the credo of all divine messengers. The God of all people in Europe, Asia, Africa, America, the Pacific and the rest of the world is one. He is the Almighty who wants to guide and give dignity to all His servants. He has given greatness to Humans. We again read in the Holy Book: "The Almighty God sent His prophets with miracles and clear signs to guide the people and show them divine signs and purify them from sins and pollutions. And He sent the Book and the balance so that the people display justice and avoid the rebellious."

All of the above verses can be seen, one way or the other, in the Good Book as well. Divine prophets have promised: The day will come when all humans will congregate before the court of the Almighty, so that their deeds are examined. The good will be directed towards (Heaven) and evildoers will meet divine retribution. I trust both of us believe in such a day, but it will not be easy to calculate the actions of rulers, because we must be answerable to our nations and all others whose lives have been directly or indirectly affected by our actions. All prophets speak of peace and tranquility for man- based on monotheism, justice and respect for human dignity. Do you not think that if all of us come to believe in and abide by these principles, that is, monotheis m, worship of God, justice, respect for the dignity of man, belief in the Last Day, we can overcome the present problems of the world- that are the result of disobedience to the Almighty and the teachings of prophets- and improve our performance? Do you not think that belief in these principles promotes and guarantees peace, friendship and justice? Do you not think that the aforementioned written or unwritten principles are universally respected? Will you not accept this invitation? That is, a genuine return to the teachings of prophets, to monotheism and justice, to preserve human dignity and obedience to the Almighty and His prophets?

Mr. President,

History tells us that repressive and cruel governments do not survive. God has entrusted the fate of men to them. The Almighty has not left the universe and humanity to their own devices. Many things have happened contrary to the wishes and plans of governments. These tell us that there is a high er power at work and all events are determined by Him.

Can one deny the signs of change in the world today? Is the situation of the world today comparable to that of ten years ago? Changes happen fast and come at a furious pace.

The people of the world are not happy with the status quo and pay little heed to the promises and comments made by a number of influential world leaders. Many people around the world feel insecure and oppose the spreading of insecurity and war and do not approve of and accept dubious policies. The people are protesting the increasing gap between the haves and the have-nots and the rich and poor countries. The people are disgusted with increasing corruption. The people of many countries are angry about the attacks on their cultural foundations and the disintegration of families. They are equally dismayed with the fading of care and compassion. The people of the world have no faith in international organizations, because the ir rights are not advocated by these organizations. Liberalism and Western style democracy have not been able to help realize the ideals of humanity. Today these two concepts have failed. Those with insight can already hear the sounds of the shattering and fall of the ideology and thoughts of the Liberal democratic systems. We increasingly see that people around the world are flocking towards a main focal point -- that is the Almighty God. Undoubtedly through faith in God and the teachings of the prophets, the people will conquer their problems. My question for you is: "Do you not want to join them?"

Mr. President,

Whether we like it or not, the world is gravitating towards faith in the Almighty and justice and the will of God will prevail over all things.

Vasalam Ala Man Ataba'al hoda

Mahmood Ahmadi-Nejad

President of the Islamic Republic of Iran


chit-chat / SAYING BYE TO ALL MY FRIENDS.............
« on: March 11, 2006, 01:27:38 PM »

 Leting the entire forum that i'll strongly miss you all. i'm recently posted from our office to a spot where i won't be able to turn up as i usually do. it will take me quite some moments to accomplish the mission.
 So this is to say bye to all my friends and to let you know that i'll seriously miss YOU ALL and the entire FORUM.


chit-chat / Subject: Invitation to Dinner
« on: March 03, 2006, 11:33:57 AM »
Subject:  Invitation to Dinner

A young man goes into a pharmacy and says to the pharmacist, "Hello, could you give me condom. I'm going to my girlfriend's for dinner and I think I may be in with a chance!" The pharmacist gives him the condom and as the young man is going out; he returns and says, "Give me another condom because my girlfriend's sister is very cute too. She always crosses her legs in a provocative manner when she sees me and I think I might strike it lucky there too."

The pharmacist gives him a second condom and as the boy is leaving he turns back and says, "Go on, give me one more condom because my girlfriend's mum is still pretty cute and when she sees me she always makes eyes, and since she invited me for dinner, I think she is expecting me to make a move!

During dinner, the young man is sitting with his girlfriend on his left, the sister on his right and the mum facing him. When the dad gets there, the boy lowers his head and starts praying, "Dear Lord, bless this dinner and Thank you for all you give us."

A minute later the boy is still praying; "Thank you Lord for your kindness." Ten minutes go by and the boy is still praying, keeping his head down. The others look at each other surprised and his girlfriend is even more surprised than the others. She gets close to the boy and says in his ear, "I didn't know you were so religious." The boy replies, "I didn?t know your dad was a pharmacist!"


« on: February 23, 2006, 11:31:53 AM »
Well, firstly I was condemned as the use of the word Norms and Values;
   According to my dictionary, Norm refers to standard, behaviour or ability that is regarded and generally acceptable.
   Whereas values refers to standards or principles; ideas about the worth or importance of certain qualities especially those generally accepted by a particular group.
   Now in religion the norm and values of any given believers should be marshaled and pivoted by their book. In this case the Holy Qur?an and Bible. Now considering the state of continuum in which the Bible was subjected led me to say ?In Christianity unlike in Islam? this refers to the kind of alterations the Bible is being subjected by continues revision over the centuries.
   Secondly, for a Muslim to be a complete Muslim He/She must believe in God, the Almighty who has neither beginning nor an end, Has no father, no wife and no child. Then a Muslim should believe in Angels, the Prophets and the books revealed by God to his selected prophets. Hence for one to be a Muslim, one must believe in among other things Jesus (Isah A.S) and the holy Bible (but the unadulterated, original Bible called Linjil).
   The Muslims respected the Christians because they are ?people of the Book? but the unfortunate gesture displayed by the Christians against the Muslim is highly unacceptable.
   We have our believe different from Christianity, Muslim are expected to follow the regulations of their religion 100%.  That is fixed sand no one on earth can alter that. It is a complete religion and the Almighty Allah (SWT) is protecting it until the day of judgement.
   Now why do they, the unbelievers interfere with our religion? If they modernized their religion to suit their selfish and corrupted way of living, why do they have interest in our religion? If the Muslims do not interfere with the Christian way of life then what is the course of all the excitement about Islam and it is jurisdictions? Yet the questions remain unanswered!  
   Beside, the Criticism of the Islamic jurisdictions, some unscrupulous individuals among the Christians exhibit an animalistic acts disguising under freedom of expression. There was never a time when a Muslim exhibit such an acts against the Christianity, why because doing such will temper with his faith (Iman).
   Considering the oppressive, inhuman and maltreatment and the Jews and the Americans are subjecting our brothers and sisters in Islam, thus, Palestine and Afghanistan/Iraq respectively, then we are bound to regard the Christian/Jews as our enemies!
   At this juncture let me categorically state that Islam is a peaceful religion that commands respectfulness, peace and tranquility, but that does not mean if we are being harmed we should just stay idle.
   Over the years the Muslim are being challenged about their Shari?ah Legal System. The most outstanding of all was that of Safinatu from Sokoto, the case that became of international interest. Safinatu was tried according to Islamic jurisdiction and was found guilty of fornication that resulted in pregnancy and birth. Islamically she was sentence to death. The man she accursed denied the allegation. Hence Islamically there is no further inquiry, so he was freed. The whole world responded, injustice was said to be done. Unknown to the unbelievers her punishment here on earth would have been the best for her. As for the man who denied, his punishment hereafter shall be immense; (Allah knows the best).
   Therefore, I strongly call on the Christians and other non-believers alike to please for peaceful co-existence especially between the two major Religions, try an understand the Islamic jurisdiction and jurisprudence. To comprehend the simple fact that Qur?an unlike the Bible has not been revised in any way and no any alteration in regards to the context of the revelation can be effected, never! It was reveled to our beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and He has completely and precisely taught the Muslims Ummah all that is in Islam before his death.
   A Muslim today has two guides, Qur?an and Hadith of the Rasul (PBUH) anything contrary to these two is null and void in Islam.
   May Allah increase our IMAN and may He guide us right and empower Muslim with the ability to strictly follow His True Religion, Ameen.

Assalaamu Alaikum All,

Below is a very good article taken from "The Independent" published today. It explains, very clearly in my opinion, why the cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) are so offensive to Muslims.

It's a good article to pass on to non-Muslims who are confused as to why we feel it's so wrong.


Mohamed: the Messenger of Allah
By Paul Vallely
Published: 03 February 2006

Images of the Prophet Mohamed have long been discouraged in Islam. The West has little understanding of why this should be so - nor of the intensity of the feelings aroused by non-believers' attitudes to the founder of Islam.
To historians, Mohamed was a prophet and religious reformer who united the scattered Arabian tribes in the 7th century, founding what went on to become one of the world's five great religions. To Muslims, he was the last in a line of figures which included Abraham, Moses and Jesus, but which found its supreme fulfilment in Mohamed.
They believe that he was visited by the Angel Gabriel who commanded him to memorise and recite the verses sent by God which became the Koran - and that he completed and perfected the teaching of God throughout history.

Because Muslims believe that Mohamed was the messenger of Allah, they extrapolate that all his actions were willed by God. A singular love and veneration thus attaches to the person of Mohamed himself. When speaking or writing, his name is always preceded by the title "Prophet" and followed by the phrase: "Peace be upon him", often abbreviated in English as PBUH.

Attempts to depict him in illustration were therefore an attempt to depict the sublime - and so forbidden.
More than that, to reject and criticise Mohamed is to reject and criticise Allah himself. Criticism of the Prophet is therefore equated with blasphemy, which is punishable by death in some Muslim states. When Salman Rushdie, in his novel The Satanic Verses, depicted Mohamed as a cynical schemer and his wives as prostitutes, the outcome was - to those with any understanding of Islam - predictable.

But understanding of Islam is sorely lacking in the West. The culture gap has its roots in the fact that Christianity - like Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism - is essentially an iconographic religion. In its early years, the Christian world took the statues of the old gods and goddesses of Greece and morphed them into images of the Virgin Mary and the saints, which were venerated in all the churches. Muslims, like Jews, take a polar opposite view. Islam and Judaism are religions of the word, not the image.

Islam has traditionally prohibited images of humans and animals altogether - which is why much Islamic art is made up of decorative calligraphy or abstract arabesque patterns.Throughout history Muslims have cast out, destroyed or denounced all images, whether carved or painted, as idolatry. Despite that prohibition, hundreds of images of Mohamed have been created over the centuries. Medieval Christian artists created paintings and illuminated manuscripts depicting Mohamed, usually with his face in full view. Muslim artists from the same era depicted Mohamed too, but usually left his face blank or veiled.

Sixteenth-century Persian and Ottoman art frequently represented the Prophet, albeit with his face either veiled, or emanating radiance. One 16th-century Turkish painting, in the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston, shows Mohamed in very long sleeves so as to avoid showing even his hands.

The ban is not absolute. Today, iconic pictures of Mohamed are sold openly on the street in Iran. The creation, sale or owning of such images is illegal, but the regime turns a blind eye (Muslims in Iran are Shia not Sunni).

Two things are different today. The cartoons published first in Denmark and now more widely across Europe set out not to depict but to ridicule the Prophet. And they do so in a climate in which Muslims across the globe feel alienated, threatened and routinely despised by the world's great powers.
The combination of this with Islam's traditional unhappiness at depictions of any human form, let alone of their most venerated one, was bound to be explosive. The affair is an example of Western ignorance and arrogance combined. We have lit a fire and the wind could take it a long way.


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chit-chat / PRESIDENT BUSH'S FUNNY BUSHISMS.................
« on: February 06, 2006, 12:32:08 PM »
Funny Bushisms: The Funniest, Saddest and Scariest Mangled Statements by President George W. Bush

Funniest Mistakes, Blunders and Bloopers by George W. Bush
(Yes, these ARE real.
Most of the recordings can be found around the net).

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." ?Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

"That's why I went to the Congress last September and proposed fundamental?supplemental funding, which is money for armor and body parts and ammunition and fuel." --George W. Bush, Erie, Pa., Sept. 4, 2004
"For every fatal shooting, there were roughly three non-fatal shootings. And, folks, this is unacceptable in America. It's just unacceptable. And we're going to do something about it." ?Philadelphia, Penn., May 14, 2001
"There's an old...saying in Tennessee...I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee that says Fool me once...(3 second pause)... Shame on...(4 second pause)...Shame on you....(6 second pause)...Fool me...Can't get fooled again." --George W. Bush to Nashville, Tennessee audience, Sept. 17, 2002, MSNBC-TV --Politex, Sept. 17, 2002, 10 PM
"There's no doubt in my mind that we should allow the world worst leaders to hold America hostage, to threaten our peace, to threaten our friends and allies with the world's worst weapons." --George W. Bush, South Bend, Indiana, Sept. 5, 2002.
"As you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say." --George W. Bush, 10.28.03.
"The ambassador and the general were briefing me on the -- the vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world. And we will find these people and we will bring them to justice." --Washington, D.C., Oct. 27, 2003 "" --George W. Bush, 10.27.03.
"I know something about being a government. And you've got a good one." --George W. Bush, campaigning for Gov. Mike Huckabee, Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 4, 2002
"We look forward to analyzing and working with legislation that will make--it would hope--put a free press's mind at ease that you're not being denied information you shouldn't see." --G.W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 14, 2005
"I want to thank you for the importance that you've shown for education and literacy." --G.W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 13, 2005
"Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." ?Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004  

"We spent a lot of time talking about Africa, as we should. Africa is a nation that suffers from incredible disease." ?Gothenburg, Sweden, June 14, 2001
"You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.'' ?Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001
"We both use Colgate toothpaste." ?after a reporter asked what he had in common with British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Camp David, Md., Feb. 23, 2001
"Tribal sovereignty means that; it's sovereign. I mean, you're a ? you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And therefore the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities."
?Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004  
"I glance at the headlines just to kind of get a flavor for what's moving. I rarely read the stories, and get briefed by people who are probably read the news themselves." ?Washington, D.C., Sept. 21, 2003
"I'm the commander ? see, I don't need to explain ? I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being president." ?as quoted in Bob Woodward's Bush at War

"I am here to make an announcement that this Thursday, ticket counters and airplanes will fly out of Ronald Reagan Airport." ?Washington, D.C., Oct. 3, 2001
?The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorize himself." ?Grand Rapids, Mich., Jan. 29, 2003
"I saw a poll that said the right track/wrong track in Iraq was better than here in America. It's pretty darn strong. I mean, the people see a better future." ?Washington, D.C., Sept. 23, 2004
"We need an energy bill that encourages consumption." ?Trenton, N.J., Sept. 23, 2002
"After standing on the stage, after the debates, I made it very plain, we will not have an all-volunteer army. And yet, this week ? we will have an all-volunteer army!" ?Daytona Beach, Fla., Oct. 16, 2004
"Do you have blacks, too?" ?to Brazilian President Fernando Cardoso, Washington, D.C., Nov. 8, 2001
"Now, we talked to Joan Hanover. She and her husband, George, were visiting with us. They are near retirement?retiring?in the process of retiring, meaning they're very smart, active, capable people who are retirement age and are retiring."
?Alexandria, Va., Feb. 12, 2003.
"This foreign policy stuff is a little frustrating." ?as quoted by the New York Daily News, April 23, 2002
"I wish you'd have given me this written question ahead of time so I could plan for it?I'm sure something will pop into my head here in the midst of this press conference, with all the pressure of trying to come up with answer, but it hadn't yet?.I don't want to sound like I have made no mistakes. I'm confident I have. I just haven't ? you just put me under the spot here, and maybe I'm not as quick on my feet as I should be in coming up with one." ?President George W. Bush, after being asked to name the biggest mistake he had made, Washington, D.C., April 3, 2004

"The really rich people figure out how to dodge taxes anyway." ?explaining why high taxes on the rich are a failed strategy, Annandale, Va., Aug. 9, 2004
"...that's just the nature of democracy. Sometimes pure politics enters into the rhetoric."
-George W. Bush, Crawford, Tx., August 8, 2003
"Security is the essential roadblock to achieving
the road map to peace."
-George W. Bush, July 25, 2003

..."It's very interesting when you think about it, the slaves who left here to go to America, because of their steadfast and their religion and their belief in freedom, helped change America."? George W. Bush, Dakar, Senegal, July 8, 2003

"My plan reduces the national debt, and fast. So fast, in fact, that economists worry that we're going to run out of debt to retire." ?radio address, Feb. 24, 2001

"See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction."
?Milwaukee, Wis., Oct. 3, 2003

"But all in all, it's been a fabulous year for Laura and me." ?summing up his first year in office, three
months after the 9/11 attacks,
Washington, D.C., Dec. 20, 2001
"I try to go for longer runs, but it's tough around
here at the White House on the outdoor track. It's
sad that I can't run longer. It's one of the saddest things about the presidency."
?interview with "Runners World," Aug. 2002
"Can we win? I don't think you can win it." ?after being asked whether the war on terror was winnable, "Today" show interview, Aug. 30, 2004
 "I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace." ?Washington, D.C. June 18, 2002
"Perhaps the biggest problem is that we have passed children from grade to grade, year after year, and those -- child hadn't learned the basics of reading and math." ?Washington, D.C., Jan. 8, 2003
"One year ago today, the time for excuse-making has come to an end." - ?Washington, D.C., Jan. 8, 2003
"I think the American people?I hope the American?I don't think, let me?I hope the American people trust me." -?Washington, D.C., Dec. 18, 2002
"I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job." ?to a group of Amish he met with privately, July 9, 2004
"I don't bring God into my life to?to, you know, kind of be a political person." --Interview with Tom Brokaw aboard Air Force One, April 24, 2003
The law I sign today directs new funds and new focus to the task of collecting vital intelligence on terrorist threats and on weapons of mass production." --George W. Bush, White House, Nov. 27, 2002

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