developed countires racism

[al_hamza]

oyingbo pepe killed more than 7 blackmen and got away with it as an "angry man"
how about the oniogi (african-american) that killed people?
what was he termed as?
first as an "al-qaeda" and later as a racist african american
racism at its peak!

oh ever heard of the black panthers?
it was an organisation brought in during the peak of anti-racism movement by african-americans in the US, they were wiped out completely after martin luther was killed,
but today ku'klux'klan is still living and killing black people though the organisation is more than 60!yrs old.

hey! is bush comming home?
lets ask him....
or maybe lionger can tell us more

[Jack_Fulcher]

I have never read a more ignorant post.  The Black Panthers were never wiped out, and most are living and prospering today.  I know because I live near Oakland in California, and know several Panthers personally.  The Ku Klux Klan still exists, but do not kill black people.  Their illegal activities have been suppressed by the government, and it is even illegal to burn a cross with the intent to intimidate others, something the Klan is known for doing.  I think al_hamza makes up a lot of his "facts," looking at this and others of his posts.  In another letter he says that women in the West wear stilleto heels and dress laciviously, because they are considered sex objects here.  He knows little about styles in the West.  The fact is that women here are free to dress as they like, unlike in many Muslim countries where they must wear a scarf or other type of uniform.  If Western women want to emphasize their good looks, they are free to do so.  If they want to wear a burqua or simply "dress down," they are allowed to do so as well.  It appears that al_hamza is not ready for freedom of thought and appearance, and would like to deny such freedoms to others as well.  Let's hope his sort of narrow thinking loses out in the marketplace of ideas.
Jack Fulcher
California

[Muhammad]

Hello Jack we meet again.
Not as opposites this time. al_hamzas post really has no clear purpose are raises some very childish remarks that should not be taken seriously. The fact of the matter is racism does exist in America, albeit, in subtle form. This is not to say much has not been achieved. In Oxford Mississippi today, a black guy could  attend college, a thought that almost sparked a mini war in the 1960's.
The kind of racism that exists today is economic and since since this is a lassez faire country, very hard to do away with.
However, Jack you have to recognise why Muslim women are clothed the way they are, the dignity of a woman, in our definition, is reflected in her decency, lack of promiscuity that is . She must not show any part of her body EXCEPT the face, feet and palms. This is also the law of Judaism and Christianity.
It is not lack of freedom, a term most exploited by Bush, that makes women wear purdah but ironically the presence of freedom. Covering the whole body does not diminsh the intellect of a woman and that should not be overlooked. My mother is a teacher and still wears a purdah willingly.
I then say finally that al_hamza ought to raise important issues and Mr Fulcher should answer them objectively, something he has not been able to do.
CIAO

[Anonymous]

if u got it n want to flaunt it go ahead, we will look.
there r very few nude bodies that look good. jack, amin n alhamza u ppl r full of angst.

[lionger]

Why did u ppl even respond? We were doing a good job of ignoring these two pointless threads he started. Not even his unflattering references to me would have dragged me into it.

Bashir, I respect your opinion, but make u take care, ur post may draw some angst on you  :-X