The new Hausa era.

[Blaqueen]

wallahi tallahi, da gaske ne...
meeh, my aunt, and my sibs were SHOCKED!..
but hey, its life.. but i know in malaysia, such things are censored.. the international Saudi channel is the one that has restrictions.. but other channels there..pisssssh.. they got LBC, and other local channels that show wuteva!

but people.. i dont think we shld be quick to judge others..
juss because a female doesnt wear veil/head covering.. or cuz one wears tight clothes..
or juss cuz u hear this person goes clubbing.. or that person does this and that..
i dont think we shld discriminate them and act like they dont know the religion.

i used to be quick to diss people i see doing sumthing that will be frowned upon on... but, later in life, i got to know some people, and wow, who am i to tell them they aint muslims or dont know about Islam! ba wanda kai su yin ibada lol..but still.. it baffles meeh that they would act somehow, but then again they're so into the religion..

[Ibro2g]

i donot challenge you,
but its very hard to believe.

But its a must believe...worse things happen that u dont even know of.I heard that Hausa/northern gurls go to Hajj specially for prostitution. The (some)arab men there cant control themselves, they even do it in the holly cities. Kadan daga masu dan kunya dat make a way for the gurls to jeddah, and do God knows whateva, and come back...wid good pay, what a buisness...worse yet, not only gurls do it, harda manyan matan aure. This is the biggest shame I feel we are facing. Wallahi my respect for those who make the hajj every yr reduced...I was heart broken.
There are so many articles of shame that our people bring about that we dont even know of. Allah ya shirye mu...Amin.

[al_hamza]

oh,
then certainly taliban werent wrong when they banned tv!

[ummita]

The talibans neva banned TV because of prostitution, rather they banned TV viewers watching CNN because of the false war propaganda it passes out.

The Talibans neva banned stations lyk Al_Jazeerah, Nickelodeon, cartoonetwork, MTV,.......infact if u say TV..It goes 4 both international & national channels...so NTA,CTV, & so on & henceforth is also banned by Talibans/.........puhleeeeeeez Ali Hamza!!!

I wud only agree if u say that Islam as a whole & on its own bans TV viewers from watching porn sites, nudity on TV or any violent programme that can & which can only affect the iman or brainwash the minds of a muslim.

Any station or programme that shows things of such kind,  Islam strictly condemns, forbids and disregards it. And of course it is not even banned by the Talibans but any TV programme which is bad, Islam regards it as the illegality of Islamicity and therefore no muslim shud watch!!!.........

Besides how on earth did u relate northern,hausa girls and married women who indulge theirselves in prostitution in Saudi to that of the Talibans banning TV.........Tell me how u did it :-/

[Blaqueen]

LoL!... abeg.. u cant force people to practice anything.. then they wouldnt be practicing out of their hearts... which is basically pointless... and its juss as bad.
banning tv? etc etc.. its juss useless..

now, lets not get off topic...

alhamza.. ur talking about people in the east/center copying the west.. well, if we had our own media that promoted wut we believe in.. then it wouldnt be a problem at all..
but instead we sit around and expect the west to do it all..

and the funny thing is.. i've met german, american, british muslims (the immoral side) who PRACTICE and BELIEVE in Islam a LOT MORE than nigerian and arab muslims (the role models?).

i think its because the west are attracted to Islam and they try to understand it..
but arabs and nigerians.. and others who's been in the game for a while are brought up as Muslims...
very few actually sit and contemplate what the religion is about.. its juss there, cuz they were born in Muslim homes. many read the Qur'an and dont bother to reflect on it...
so, even when some start to "kauche"... they dont know what they're getting themselves into.

amma, when i think of those practicing Muslims in naija... kai fashy, we know our religion..

in Sudan, if a person is practicing Islam properly (ibada), they say "wow, ur like a nigerian, masha Allah."... so at least that's good~!

[ummita]

Aleeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Hamzaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Ok less go back to the prehistoric tyms, Lets take it back. Before civilisaiton, Before modernisation and even before modern technology ballentana media......(say) during the time of Prophet (S.A.W)

The prophet preached on gays and lesbians didnt he?
The prophet preached on prostitution didnt he?
The Prophet preached on those who drink & do drugs didnt he?
The Prophet preached on theft and robbery didnt he?
The Prophet preached on so many aspects of life didnt he?

If at all he did all these? Then were was modernisation, civilisation and EVEN media in those days? They played no major part or role in the lifes of muslims and they were NOT at all the reason why people engage theirselves in such acts, ballenta relating it to northerners/hausas. This evil doings that our hausa/northerners tend to be doing its not media to be blamed but who? The ppl of course?!!!!! Even Shaytan cant be blamed for these acts but the ppl who feel for his ways.

So Alee, in a sense r u trying to say, its ok 4 hausa/northerners to take to wrong path as long as its media that influenced hausa/northers & craved its dirtiness in their hearts? And if they end up in the wrong path then its ok!!! why because  its not their fault!! Its media, its modernisation, its civilisation!!!

Its high time ya'all stop blaming media, modernisation or civilisaiotn...Even during the medivial times ppl were not affected by these changes..........

[kamal]

the fall of islamic practises among hausa people is a fact.About the question of islam and modernity.Why in saudi Arabia women are not allowed to drive a car? Is it normal if muslims say that men and women have the same rights?

[al_hamza]

Lailaha'illahu,
pls people stay clear of ummita's fatwas,
they are too dangerous.
ummita.... we have to face Allah(S.W.T) on the day of judgement. Pls i ask you in HIS name to quit giving false news.

1)i study 400kms away from the afghan border,

2)there are over 2 million afghan refugees in this country.

3)i have two friends that have served with Taliban, one of them has even achieved matyredom in kashmir.

and you come to tell me, as if accusing me of lying, that in afghanistan, taliban didnt ban tv. MTV, Nicholodeon? Axtaghfurallahul azeem!

Ummita fear Allah!
hell fire is very dangerous!

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lets come again.
do you think that tv hasnt affected our people?
really?
really?

just to show me down..... how far will you escape from the ground reality?


kai innalillahi ummita, am highly surprised how far you can go to proove "am brilliant he's stupid".

when i was young, my agemates enjoyed talking of sex,cars, films and girls. I enjoyed knowing more about my religion and how it affected this world and us in general.
am not saying i was an angel cos i too was a severe headache to many many people.

if you want to go around laying false claims, you'll find me as a thorn on each path you take, as far as its regarding my religion.

Yes TV is bad.
but thats if you use it for wrong purposes.
taliban banned it cos it didnt trust its people.
period plus its a propaganda machine.

if an imam comes on tv and talks of addeeni then its good.
but if your watching half naked men and women on tv, then i hope you'll agree that its wrong (according to Islam)


i have heard, i havent witnessed it so far that NTA now plays sex-oriented movies, pls i sit more than 4000km away from my home. can you tell me if its true?

[Blaqueen]

chill people... television can be monitored.. digital advantage!!! hullo?
we all know wut is wrong.. we know wut is right!.. so chillax!!

oh by tha way... i thot taliban banned tv.. for same reason communist govts ban tv...
cuz if all the stories coming from taliban are false.. why didnt the talbs do something to defend their name? and if its all false, no Islamic Organization went their to clarify the reality of the situation there? so cant blame anyone if there IS mis-information

we can use MEDIA to benefit us.. but if we're too lazy and sit around.... evil will overtake...
and how many of u even go out and buy islamic cartoons? and islamic movies? and other islamic based media items?...
there are luts of Islamic shops to visit and buy such things!

meeh sef wanna do something "theater", "movie", wuteva about islam and our culture...
it high time i get the current hausa movie makers OUT OF BIDNESS!!!!!. >:(.. i'm taking over!  >:(

ayya..hamzito.. so na so u dey see life... sannu ko

[ummita]

Lailaha'illahu,
pls people stay clear of ummita's fatwas,
they are too dangerous.
ummita.... we have to face Allah(S.W.T) on the day of judgement. Pls i ask you in HIS name to quit giving false news.

Of course we hav 2 face Allah..but u know wat I juss luv d way u keep twistin on issues. Now u tell me which news did I bring that was false?.....Oh...err did I mention Taliban banned TV cuz of prostitution :-/ Nah mayb not!!! Probably Alee did....Oh yes! he did

I neva said u was lyin...I neva tell ppl they lie..rather if I disagree..I disagree....open ur eyes & red this carefully.......Ummita was ONLY denyin d fact that Ali Hamza said Talibans banned TV because of prostitution & again the only thing I asked u was...how did u cum about 2 relate hausa/northers prostitution with that of taliban & banning TV? Thats d only ansa I wanted from u

Ummita fear Allah!
hell fire is very dangerous!
lets come again.
do you think that tv hasnt affected our people?
really?
really?
just to show me down..... how far will you escape from the ground reality?
kai innalillahi ummita, am highly surprised how far you can go to proove "am brilliant he's stupid".
if you want to go around laying false claims, you'll find me as a thorn on each path you take, as far as its regarding my religion.
Yes TV is bad.
but thats if you use it for wrong purposes.
taliban banned it cos it didnt trust its people.
period plus its a propaganda machine.
if an imam comes on tv and talks of addeeni then its good.
but if your watching half naked men and women on tv, then i hope you'll agree that its wrong (according to Islam)
i have heard, i havent witnessed it so far that NTA now plays sex-oriented movies, pls i sit more than 4000km away from my home. can you tell me if its true?

Shush.....! Alee Hamza, kai (she laffs) U can twist, misinterpretate & u sooo look 4 meaningless clues.....Now anyways makin noise is an effective means opposition, so I no blame u ;) Of course I hav read & heard about hell fire.....but heck u & I r no close there..so wats d point!!!

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lets come again.
do you think that tv hasnt affected our people?
really?
really?


kai innalillahi ummita, am highly surprised how far you can go to proove "am brilliant he's stupid".

if you want to go around laying false claims, you'll find me as a thorn on each path you take, as far as its regarding my religion.

Yes TV is bad.
but thats if you use it for wrong purposes.
taliban banned it cos it didnt trust its people.
period plus its a propaganda machine.

if an imam comes on tv and talks of addeeni then its good.
but if your watching half naked men and women on tv, then i hope you'll agree that its wrong (according to Islam)


i have heard, i havent witnessed it so far that NTA now plays sex-oriented movies, pls i sit more than 4000km away from my home. can you tell me if its true?

I hav neva heard that Talibans banned TV cuz of northern/hausa prostitution.....which is d main issue we was discussion about b/4 u diversed it 2 sumwhere I not know of.....
U tkled about how Tv played a major role is destroyin women & puttin them on prostitution & I said 2 u even b/4 modernisation, civilisation & d media that u r sooooooooo concerned of!!! b/4 these all existed........women still engage in prostitution...there were prostitutes THEN!!

During d tyms of d prophet dont women engage in prostitution?...if yes!!! then media is not they main key tool that puts d minds of women in such an act.....rather they themselves that subjected in2 d act @ their own free will............

so Aleee am not arguin am juss tellin u.........I wont blame media & I dont blame media because of women prostitution.....cum off it.....(havent u heard of peer pressure!!!). Isnt that quite more reasonable & just 2 blame women 4 prostitution? Sometyms bck...some gurls cudnt even afford no Tv..but they were karuwai.......Is it media Alee?

Hey! all that is happenin homosexuality,lesbinism,theft, drugs & alcohol........amongst hausa/northerners...all these ppl took upon to...b/4 our great grandys were even born.........& that meand during d prehistoric tyms so...........d only thing I can say is media duz influence ppl......but not on things that hav long existed since decennial yrs!!!!!!

Lemme recap u on these.........this topic speaks of bad behaviors that nothern/hausaz took upon that is not sum'en the real hausa had b/4!!! which is wipin away d reality of Islamictiy.......There r better & gud reasons why this is so.........not MEDIA. And plzzzzzz stop diversin topic...always get on d right track...kaga abun da ina fedar maka..cewa u r atyms right but followed by wrong & u made a mockery out of it......now look wat u've all written which duz not even relate 2 wat I was rantiiiiiiiiiin about.  
4 THIS TOPIC FULL STOPPPP & Alee dont make me wryt again

[al_hamza]

i never mentioned the word prostitiution,
you dont believe in the day of judgement,
its better to talk to someone with little knowledge but more respect for religion than to talk to you.

when in Allah's name did i utter the word prostitiution.

I hereby Raise my Hand to Swear in Allah's name that if you dont take back your words i'll personally ask for judgement on the day of Al-kiyamah!

to proove you are right you put words into my mouth?
surely i wont even spit on your face if i had the chance!

[ummita]

Now hold up boi, this is juss a thread line in a forum..it seemz u kinda takin things 2 d xtremez. U neva did (u surely gimme laffs) go bck & read ur post......

& oh by d way.........any right sensible thinkin person duznt think one is fast superior wen it cumz down 2 religion. Now I say there is sum'en really worryin u........menene wai u will raise ur hands & swear...oh well Tuff!!!! God.......Alee this is a forum 4 fake sakes!!! Ma faith & religion: I keep close d d heart........persuadin sum1 2 belive in sumen ai ba hauka bane...I disagree abotu d whole media issue...I did....& theres wat I did.......D only reason I replied ur post......iz juss 2 inform u that....man this is juss a thread.......so kalm down......she laffs..hez gat sum serious issues.......Brova I mean no harm.....so take a breather & kalm down......wai he will raise his hands...she laffs....am outta here

[ummita]

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I hereby Raise my Hand to Swear in Allah's name that if you dont take back your words i'll personally ask for judgement on the day of Al-kiyamah!

to proove you are right you put words into my mouth?
surely i wont even spit on your face if i had the chance!

Now juss look at this.......& yet ppl claim they gat knowledge & respect 4 Islam.....wen all that cumz from there mouth is that!!! Well things lyk that dont bother me......Alee u need help (she laffs) nah honestly u du..juss sit 7 think wats d point of all these wrodings........4 surely I will not say such thing on u....bcuz it aint worth  it[/color]

[al_hamza]

i'll go through mental therapy, i promise if you'll show me the place where i said that tv causes prostitiution.

you dont believe tv is a bad influence huh?
tv is something to talk of later,
talk of this thing called internet.

children locked at home by good families can get spoilt by just using this thing.
imagine, check your hotmail and signout
the next thing you know is msn.com offering you ten good examples of making your sexual life better.
isnt this a form of media?

who can control his/her heart?
we are ordinary humans
as a famous poet said "niether am i Moses nor am I Pharoh"
b4 you make something else out of it,
this statement means niether am  i am an extremely pious one nor am i a big sinner.

i have had friends that went on weed cos they tought "its a way of prooving machoness" and they belonged to good families.......

where do things go wrong?

i repeat.... qoute the place where i said tv causes prostitiution and i'll take back my words publicly.....
otherwise i'll stand my grounds i have done nothing but
re-acted, maybe in too strong a manner but you are the root cause.

[ummita]

i repeat.... qoute the place where i said tv causes prostitiution and i'll take back my words publicly.....
otherwise i'll stand my grounds i have done nothing but
re-acted, maybe in too strong a manner but you are the root cause.

Since u hav enuff tym......juss go bck read up all of em......well Tuff! Alee......u can stand on eni grounds...I neva said u shudnt....Root cause!!......well actually I neva said u shudnt say wateva..idan kaga dama climb d  highest mountains above...& rain d heaviest bad wordings....I didnt say u shudnt..u can go on.....stand on any grounds....ben hana ka ba.......I wasnt hurt by wat u said...so root cause is no reason. Y bcus I dont kiya.(...hmmm) Yeah u shud definately go (4 that mental therepary u said)............I juss had 2 put those in brackets kafin kuma kace nacemaka mahaukai. U go fit kill pessin ::)