Fatwa on Isioma?????? right? or wrong?

lionger · February 24, 2003, 03:55:33 PM

FDQ,

Ouch  :'(,. FDQ, why did you say that? I did not mean to insult anybody.

Actually, come to think of it, yea maybe i should flush my head in an unwashed toilet! Look, i sorry if i hurt anyone's sensibilities. But you should know by now that I'm not one of them 'crazy southerners' filled with bitterness and angst against northern muslims. I was trying to make a point. If you had said 'yes' in answer to my question, then I'd have left it at that. Afterall, it is your religion, right? But if you said, 'no, that is not the Muslim thing to do' (and i guess that is your response), then I would have said to tell your leaders to stop insulting Islam and giving it a bad image by making such frivolous comments, b4 castigating the West for 'waging war against Islam'!

ummita · February 24, 2003, 04:02:44 PM

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But you should know by now that I'm not one of them 'crazy southerners' filled with bitterness and angst against northern muslims.

RACIAL DISCRIMINATION!!! Beri southerner su keranta abun da ka rubuta L'ger.......(Juss jokin) ;)

Well.... this Isy Issue has wayyyyyy been long 4gotten. Allah dai ya karemu duka.

Rose · February 25, 2003, 01:40:59 AM

:o ???
Humm!!!!!!
May ALLAH Guide us.

Ibro2g · February 25, 2003, 04:45:20 AM

can any one please give me legal rightfull conditions of fatawa....ance ba`a san magana kan jahilci, lets try to keep 2 dat

Blaqueen · February 25, 2003, 02:03:35 PM

haba lion.. wheytin? i nevah say 'am naaaaaa... ::)

ya'll juss fail to comprehend... no one on this forum actually praised the idea and u get people who come dey yarn dust... so why u frontin'? u might wanna read Amin's post ONE MORE TIME!!!!!!!!!!

Blaqueen · February 25, 2003, 02:10:44 PM

Quotecan any one please give me legal rightfull conditions of fatawa....ance ba`a san magana kan jahilci, lets try to keep 2 dat

and u! mr. katsina... Way of "Islam"... to follow the Qur'an and examples of the Prophet... well, it states nuthin' like that in the Qur'an.. and i never heard or read the Prophet (saw) issuing one... so... ::) up to u  ;)... plus read whut Amin posted.. he pretty much summed it up

lionger · February 25, 2003, 02:43:10 PM

FDQ

amin's post did not really say anything about the legitimacy of a fatwa. from your response i take it that fatwa has no backing by the quran, which was an answer my question was driving to. if that is true, then like i said again, shinkafi should be seriously reprimanded, pressured to resign his position, and perhaps even be in jail right now. Also, that means that some muslim 'leaders' in the world like the late Ayatollah Khomeini today have done a great injustice to Islam and that needs to be addressed ASAP.

Blaqueen · February 25, 2003, 04:27:57 PM

...um... lion... ayatollah.. is kinda not like.. an icon of Islam... y'know.. its like sayin' KKK and burning crosses on black people's backyard is a xtian belief and ritual... :-/

addressed ASAP?.... we were waiting for u to come and tell us that... *sarcastic*... ::)... u really are underestimatin' us....

Ish happens, man... :-/

lionger · February 25, 2003, 06:45:21 PM

Wow that's a good point on the ayatollah-KKK similarity FDQ; that never occured to me. But the KKK is widely condemned in churches amongst in America and amongst americans. 'The West' (and funny enough, Salman Rushdie himself) is arguing that the moderate muslims do not speak up against such extremists, hence giving them more lattitude. Do you think this is true?

Btw i'm sorry if the 'ASAP' section of my last post seemed a little insulting. you are right, these things happen.

Blaqueen · March 01, 2003, 10:55:16 PM

Juss because u dont see us spankin them live on TV dont mean we're not doing anything... :-/

i mean c'mon.. its still a debate in the US gov't whether the KKK and other white extremists groups can be allowed to burn crosses on black people's backyard... *pisssh... lets see how they'll react to burning black fists on their yards...* hissss
u dont see us posting it all over the place demanding for "whuteva ya'll wanna see"...
u dont see us blaming all xtians and whites for it...

and a li'l bit closer to home.......
u dont us posting and tormenting southerners about sex slavery in southern nigeria... we dont yell out 'those edo girls'... 'those paris hookers'...
we dont scream and rubb it in southern peeps faces about drug dealers from the south...
we dont pester ya'll about criminal records ya'll have in the north and the rest of the world.....
we dont post that xtianity supported slavery...
we dont stress on how missionaries trick natives...
(even if u did read that somewhere (which i kinda doubt ::)), at least respect this site as it is because we DONT!

we dont RANT juss for the heck of it.. cuz hatred no dey for our hearts.. i'm sure we're all aware of our faults.. and some do something about it.. some dont....... so at least give props to those who want to make a difference...

Ibro2g · March 02, 2003, 03:22:01 AM

wwow, u said it all queen. I guess we juss aint like em, and we cant brag about it either

Fulanizzle · March 02, 2003, 04:14:53 AM

dYME kin closing chapter din!!!
well said gurl!

peace

ummita · March 03, 2003, 01:41:17 AM

Very much in agreement with Dyme......so enuff..2 d rest of ya'all...cuz who still remembers Isy..besides an sam mu musulmai da hakuri...or ya'all r still holdin grudges on mi lady ne?

Borg · March 03, 2003, 08:41:17 PM

Ladies and Gents, on Fatwa..................

Fatwa is a legal statement in Islam, issued by a mufti or a religious lawyer, on a specific issue.

Mufti = A religious leader in Islam, dealing with juridical questions. The mufti is the only one who can issue a fatwa, which gives him the power of handling cases where there is doubt among other learned Muslim.

Fatwas are asked for by judges or individuals, and are needed in cases where an issue of fiqh is undecided or uncertain. Lawsuits can be settled on the basis of a fatwa.
It is vital that a fatwa is not based upon the muftis or lawyers own will and ideas, he must render it in accordance with fixed precedent.
Today, fatwas have limited importance in most Muslim societies, and are normally used only in cases of marriage, inheritance and divorce. The importance of a fatwa depends on its acceptance among most people, and if people don't care about it, it is in reality powerless.

And as for Mr Rushdie, he better not show uo at my door step, don kuwa zai ji jiki!

Anonymous · March 03, 2003, 09:07:16 PM

QuoteJuss because u dont see us spankin them live on TV dont mean we're not doing anything... :-/

i mean c'mon.. its still a debate in the US gov't whether the KKK and other white extremists groups can be allowed to burn crosses on black people's backyard... *pisssh... lets see how they'll react to burning black fists on their yards...* hissss
u dont see us posting it all over the place demanding for "whuteva ya'll wanna see"...
u dont see us blaming all xtians and whites for it...

and a li'l bit closer to home.......
u dont us posting and tormenting southerners about sex slavery in southern nigeria... we dont yell out 'those edo girls'... 'those paris hookers'...
we dont scream and rubb it in southern peeps faces about drug dealers from the south...
we dont pester ya'll about criminal records ya'll have in the north and the rest of the world.....
we dont post that xtianity supported slavery...
we dont stress on how missionaries trick natives...
(even if u did read that somewhere (which i kinda doubt ::)), at least respect this site as it is because we DONT!

we dont RANT juss for the heck of it.. cuz hatred no dey for our hearts.. i'm sure we're all aware of our faults.. and some do something about it.. some dont....... so at least give props to those who want to make a difference...

As a southern Muslim I am not against Sharia if properly implemented against corrupt politician not impoverish poor Nigerian that have to survive by any mean necessary.

Nigerian are dirt poor we earn $13 billion from oil with a population of 150 million, yet a country like Holland earns $60 for 15 million.

FDQ this is the best post you have ever written and you are right the south crime wave and moral collapse is a problem that the south has to resolve 419 and Nigerian prostitutes aboard have destroyed the Image of Nigerian aboard just as corrupt northern military leader have in Nigeria.

The Reason the north doesn rant is because the north need the south more than the south needs the north. Its obvious if the south has the chance they would break free from the north. I don't sure whether they would be successful in their independent but every single Yoruba or Igbo that I speak to want Nigeria to separate.

I myself have lost confident and belief in the future of Nigeria  even if Mutrala return as the next president.

So how do we solve this problem? First we have to accept our differences and maybe return the government the British gave three-region Western, Northern and Eastern region with a weak president and parliament.

We need resource control on our mineral to 50 % with the remaining 50% used to sustain under-develop region and Nigerian security.

Fatwa on Isioma?????? right? or wrong?

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