Gov Kure's atrocious remarks about non qualified South South

Started by Ete, May 26, 2006, 02:25:04 PM

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Ete

Governor Abdulkadir Kure from the north has since come under intense fire from making very offensive comments that the South South lacks any qualified candidate for President come 2007.

I would imagine that Gov Kure is not with his faculties intact. If infact he is not suffering from dementia and actually believes this ridiculous assertion of his, I would really like him to show us the 'qualified' persons from the north, because that's the group he represents apparently.

This is what happens when illiterates find themselves in offices that under normal ciircumstance, they should NEVER come close to.  What a society! Every moth can crawl out of a hole and utter garbage. Interesting indeed. If the South South lacks qualified people, then is it the north that has qualified people? What a joke!

dan mama

i agree with u ete though am a northerner i very much disagree with governor kure's remarks its very very selfish and uncalled for. Nigeria is for all of us  and i will keep on saying that we should get leaders that will deliver us from the hands of poverty regardless of ethnicity or religion. the north has been ruling nigeria for a very long time with nothing to show for it. who are the good leaders governor kure is talking about?
is it the babangidas, the atikus or the marwas all those hopeless thieves with nothing to offer.they have been tried b4 and they have failed so there is no need to try them again. all i want to say is this nigerian presidency is not a birth right of the northern populace cos its they in the south that have the engine that runs the country(crude oil) so we the northerners should not be listening to our stupid leaders that just want to rule this nation at our expense rather we should look for and support  any body that will help better our lives
ets always stand for the truth no matter how bitter it is.

Ete

Dan Mama, thanks. I am glad you have a fair assessment on this issue.  It is irresponsible commentary by defficient people like Governor Kure that further sparks the growing divide that now exist in Nigeria and threatens to break up the Nation. The 2007 Presidential election will be a very defining period in our history. Depending on what happens, it may well shatter the Federation.

I would hope many northerners would sit back and assess things clearly and without bias. As you rightly pointed out, the north has ruled for 37 years since the country became independence. The guy that passed a motion for independence in the first place, was Pa Enahoro from the south south.  The men that clamoured and fought for this independence we now enjoy were from the South.  And for decades, the South accepted northern leadership to their own detriment I must, and now what they get in return are insults from semi-literate characters like Gov Kure.

President Obasanjo had barely been in office for a year when the northern machine began its anti Obasanjo propaganda of ridiculing the President and working feverishly to derail any possible good he may achieve.  All of that in less than 2 years of a non northerner taking over leadership and trying to make sense of the monumental mess his predecessors in office left behind.

In recent months, we have read in several papers as well as online, how the Northern Governor, or Northern Stake holders, or whatever other names they go by, have held and continue to hold several meetings to come up with a plan to return power to the north at all cost.  Some of the anticipated candidates of northern origin are IBB, Atiku, Buhari, and co.  Atiku has been more vocal about his desire to be next president.

One thing I have never heard Atiku or his other potential northern Presidential aspirants say, is what exactly they have to offer the Nigerian people.  I have not heard or seen any of them outline their initiatives and discuss them clearly and passionately. No, the only thing I've heard from them is to return power to the North.

Let me say right here and right now to all observing parties, given the work the South South puts into sustaining this country and how we've stepped aside for so many years for morally defficient men to run our country to the ground and mismanage all our resources,  there is not a chance in hell that the South South will step aside come 2007.  That is not going to happen. Nigeria does not belong to any one person, and if we are continue co-existing as one nation, the next President had better be from the South come 2007, or the north can carve out its own territory and be its own sovereign nation seperate from everyone else......Word!

HUSNAA

Tut tut Ete, harsh words!!!
Isn't  Gov Kure the person giving X Amir of Gwandu Jokolo a hard time right now?
Ghafurallahi lana wa lakum

Ruma

Ete,
Seems like u'r letting ur emotions get the best of you. You should have more faith in your countrymen, i believe from the way things are going Nigerians have a chance to an honest election in the country and are ready to vote for the right candidate irrespective of what part of the country he is from.
As for your ultimatum, :roll: It's attitudes like that that got the country in the mess it's in today. Have faith in ur candidates, if they are credible enough you don't need to resort to such remarks.

Ete

Ruma really?  You talk about me having faith in my countrymen and women, so let's cut the crap.  If that is supposed to be the general attitude,  then Gov Kure and his sponsors up north ought to have known know better, shown a little respect for the South South people and have confidence in the ability of any Candidate from that region.  His unguarded commentary is a slap on the face of the South south people. I think you should direct your words of caution to Gov. Kure and his cohorts.

In reference to my ultimatum, it is a generally shared attitude amongst majority of the Southern people, and we did not create this mess. The folks that believe leadership of the country is their birth right did. We are simply saying, enough and NEVER AGAIN.  The politics of Nigeria has never been about the right candidate. The north made sure of that a long time ago. So why the sudden desire to change the mentality when all along the rest of the country had been preaching that doctrine for decades but it fell on deaf ears because the system of dominance favored those that held power?

I'll state it again, Nigeria does not belong to any one person, group, or region.  The country is bigger than the north, but the north has held on to power for 37 years in the country's 46 year history. If you do not think the same opportunity needs to be accorded to someone else so we can see what they have to offer, then it is pointless to engage in any further discussion with you.

The classical definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.  Funny as it may seem, that is what Nigeria as a nation has done for the longest time.  One northern leader after the other has come and gone. In some cases, a northern guy comes along and kicks another northern guy out of office, indicating that the previous guy had no clue and undeserving to continue in leadership.  So given this very dismal legacy, isn't it sensible to look elsewhere for leadership and allow others that never had a shot at the office showcase their initiatives and goals and let's see what they can offer and accomplish?  

My credibility is not and can never be in question here.  I am in support of fairness here. I am also in support of change. After decades of poor, corrupt, and failed leaderships all coming from a section of the country, I clearly believe people need to look elsewhere for better policy and decision makers. If after so many years and chances upon chances to diligently lead this country to some acceptable standards given its vast material and human resources, but they still fail in that fundamental task , it becomes obvious that the people we've entrusted with that responsibility over and over for 37 years, totally lack all the ingredients of leadership.  


So my credibility can't be in question here. I however call to question the credibility of the opponents of that sense of fairness. I call to question the credibility of those who despite the facts that stare them in the face, still insist on the next President coming from the north. These people have shown total disregard for all other Nigerians. Now they disguise that disregard with a false call for the 'right' candidate irrespective of ethnic origin. Deep down inside them, they want a northerner as the next President because they just cannot see a non northerner hold that position. Unfortunately, we are past that point.  It is such attitude, not mine, that jeopardizes the future of Nigeria. If we do not recognize these signs, many people will be in for a rude awakening.  That is not an ultimatum, or a threat. It is simply reality waiting to happen.

dan mama

i just like what is happening here in nigeria. and it serves our northern leaders right. they had the power for over 30 years and what have they got to show for it?absolute nothing all they are after is that power should come back to the north. what are they developing plans they have to show people that power should come back to the north? nothing, they just want the power to come into their hands so that they will continue to use it to oppress people. what non sense and so many people are there supporting them. am a northerner to the core but am happy things are turning out this way so that the foolish northern leaders will learn. the power should continue to stay in the south and thank God the people in the south have now known that they have the money and the power to keep the power in their side forever. they have the oil and they have the backing of the white people so the power should remain there instead of coming into the hands of these fools that wont help us at all even though they are part of us it better remains with them.
ets always stand for the truth no matter how bitter it is.

lionger

Haba Ete,
Abeg my broda, don't be so harsh with your words, or soon people will start rseponding in kind and the discussion will descend into ugly ethnic mudslinging. You seem very passionate about the South-South, are you from this region? If so here's a fellow brother saying hello  :) . I am a southerner, and my mother is in fact from the South-south. As such this region is very dear to my heart so I share all your concerns.

But come now, if Obasanjo's presidency has told us anything, it is that this 'rotational/zonal presidency' will never work. It is at best a peace compromise, but it will ensure continued mediocrity in governance. Obasanjo's regime has certainly not been good enough, neither was the previous 37 years of 'northern' stewardship. As long as we play this zonal game and ethnicized politics it is my firm belief that things will remain unsatisfactory. Frankly at this point I'm ready to accept a Cameroonian or even an alien if he will provide good governance.

There's more than a lot wrong with Gov. Kure's comments, and I find Ruma's post to be very idealistic and perhaps a bit naive, but I doubt the North breaking away will make things better for either North or South. In fact it might well make things worse. It will open a huge pandora's box that will unleash war, misery and bloodshed that will make Yugoslavia look like child's play :( ! Believe me, we are better off united - but things can't continue the way they are!!

lionger

Ruma

I get why you may find Kure's remarks insulting but they're not the first of such blunders in Nigerian politics and certainly won't be the last, and please don't tell me  you haven't noticed that alot of Nigerian politicians-both from the North and the South- lack the art of public speeking.

Yes.. we've heard you! And you might wanna hang on to something before you read the next line...
every1 knows Nigeria does not belong to one region or a particular ppl!!! You may find this hard to believe but there are some of us who are tired of the ethnic politics and just wan't a good leader who'll make a difference for the better, wherever he may come from!

As for the rest of your remarks, correct me if i'm wrong but a non northerner has been in power for the last seven years right? Northerners not envisioning a non Northerner as president... AGAIN the present president is from the south, so what's your point?

Quote from: "Ete"My credibility is not and can never be in question here.

Man u've got issues!
Now where did you get that from? I said if the south-south candidates are credible then Nigerians will surely see it, thereby proving Kure wrong, and saving you the trouble of making all those premonitions about all hell breaking loose if a southerner, sorry, if power isn't handed to the south come 2007.
Here's the irony, for someone who claims to be all for fairness, good governance and change, your response does not suggest you want a southern president because of his qualifications or what he has to offer the country but simply a power shift to the south by hook or crook and that makes you no better than Kure or any of those you so clearly detest. And if that's trully the case then it's also pointless for me to engage in further discussions with you, there are alot of better things i can do with my time than engage in an ethnic skirmish.

HUSNAA

Quote from: "lionger"Haba Ete,
Abeg my broda, don't be so harsh with your words, or soon people will start rseponding in kind and the discussion will descend into ugly ethnic mudslinging. .

I doubt the North breaking away will make things better for either North or South. In fact it might well make things worse. It will open a huge pandora's box that will unleash war, misery and bloodshed that will make Yugoslavia look like child's play :( ! Believe me, we are better off united - but things can't continue the way they are!!

lionger

Well said Lionger. You are not as polarized as I previously imagined, just touchy on religious issues!!! :D.
Well anyway, I believe that even if we are to have a south south president, he clearly wont be able to materialize without the help of the North. That is a fact that can't be overlooked!!!  So we Nigerians need each other however we look at our situation.
Ghafurallahi lana wa lakum

lionger

lol HUSNAA,
Me touchy on religious issues? See dis JJC  :P  :P no be ya fault sha. If any one of us is touchy on that subject its you, not me  :twisted:  :wink:  :twisted: .In any case this regional presidency idea makes a joke of our democracy

hikma

mayb we could spare ourselves d debate on d south south inability stuff. coz recently, durin national assembly retreat in minna, gov kure distanced himself from d insinuations nd actually ate back his words, outright. so much dat he apologised 4 d misconception sorroundin his aired views of d south south. however, my view here is dat nigerians wll decide who`s capable nd who isnt! b him o her from d north, east, west o south south!!