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Errr......Waziri I dont think neither Ummul nor MAG were objectin 2 culture vs Islam.

Infact
Ummul recap...wat did u juss say,not a necessity: Bin culture ?in d bin!! Huh?!!!! :o I f u r hausa or fulds or eny other tribe huda dear, then wats d point of clamin 2 b of d tribe group if u say necessity doesnt count, Theres simply no point.


Ummul U've got 2 rominate. Put urself in a deep thinkin session; I know u will reconsider (she laffs).

Ummita Darling dear, I'm sorry if I hurt your sensibilities. That was not my intention. I have done as you asked and put my thinking cap and went into deep ruminations, and I still came out with my original opinion. I'll soften it though.
Islamic culture is the only culture worth having. This is because Islam is a COMPLETE way of life. Now since it is that, then any other way of life is excluded. Our ways of life and lifestyles are dictated to by culture and culture is nothing but a collection of habits which refuse to die. As the saying goes, 'habits die hard' or something like that, so we are stuck with them, and we amalgamate them with our religion and live in comfortable ignorance. Is it any wonder the Prophet Sallam said that we will only attain paradise through the Grace of Allah and not through our works? Islam as a complete way of life means DISCARD everything but what the Prophet advocates. That's why we were told to emulate his lifestyle.
No other religion in this world has laid out guidelines in miniscule like the Islamic religion. Most of the time we don't even know the right behaviour for many events. Rather we follow our individual cultures. Right. Why is the Islamic Ummah considered as one all over the world? Why is it supposed to have ONE caliph and not several simultaneously? Because it is supposed to have ONE homogeneous culture, and ONE way of behaviour, not 100 million different types of mores and folklores. As to identity. Being a muslim is the only Identity one needs, not a Yoruba Muslim or a Hausa Muslim or an Arab muslim e.t.c. What will this Islamic identity do to us? DETRIBALISE us and let us live in harmony with each other without the millstone of our individual cultural traits making us despise each other.
What will happen to the Hausa - Fulani?  Probably the same thing that happened to the Hausas and the Fulanis when they were  separate identities. And Why not? The Hausas were not able to stop it, neither the Fulanis. So how much more their hybrid posterity? We will just blend into another melting pot. Its direction? Only God knows at the moment and whoever cares to make a dissertation on the subject matter.

MAG, Ummita and Ummulhuda.

I really find it necessary to reapeat myself here. It is not technology vs culture. It is the custodians or moulders of technology or what the technology carries within itself vs our Islamic culture and Identity. That is what I termed as GLOBALISM in my submission. And when I said that optimism cannot help us. I meant we only can't say Islam is there and "shikenan"  and relax "kawai". May be we can think and sterategise. I think that is in all why we are in this Forum.
 
Luts of love. I pray Im not being misunderstood.

QuoteWell to pick a pee from a joke ?Mr Chairman have speakED, The MC spokED now I am going to SPARK!?

Aminuddeen, FDQ, Good Fella, Katsinian , Hafsat , the poetic Ummita and Abu Mujahid. Good greetings!!!!!

It has been a lively discussion. To be more explicit about the topic of discussion, I think I understand the technology that comes with globalization to be different from GLOBALISM which is an aspect of globalization that seeks to provide the world with an entirely different culture, in order to rob individual cultural groups of their norms, values and identities. For those of us who were liberal enough with their sight to have watched the 1999 beauty pageant; a similar kind of activity that sparked the flames of mayhem recently in some parts of Nigeria. They would have seen how at the tail end of the program a Jewess wearing a frock as an evening dress was chosen as the one who wore the best evening dress among hundred others who deemed or "doomed" it necessary to wear a different dress of their respective cultures. Remember a gathering like that is always considered to be a gathering of the world. And we could see how a culture of wearing a frock as an evening dress was imposed on the rest, yes, "imposed" ? because it was said to be the best. Get the thought?! And see daily how the art of dressing half-naked is gaining ground across the globe. In the Arab world as well as Africa specifically Hausa Land, in fact if a lady wants to feel among ,she has to be ?gluttonous? in appearance. When Jennifer Lopez was asked about its legitimacy she said "It is not being immoral but rather knowing how to dress beautifully" and Lopez and Britney Spears are the models of many girls now in Hausa land, especially those who surf the net today trying to detect the highs and lows of music and musical industries.

In the academics which is the intellectual engine room of cultural survival, not only Hausa culture is being swept, but even our greater spiritual asset( Islam) as considered by Aminuddeen(and it is true) to be the spring-board of our more- than-noble-culture is being devastatingly attacked. I can still vividly remember how my social studies teachers, right from primary school days taught me to believe in the theory of evolution against my religious or cultural BACKground and FOREground; that man as an organic part of this universe is a product of chance. A chance; just a chance like that. Remember the theory? The Homo erectus, the home sapiens and(a little laugh) now MAN is said to be a homosexual. You see if we can all remember, this theory as proposed by Darwin, was what led to what today is known as "social darwinism" and social darwinism is the bedrock of CAPITALISM and SOCIALISM, the two philosophies that rule the world today and are in constant fight with our religion and system of values. And just imagine while the proponents of this belief/culture are hell-bent on propagating their ideologies through our text books Hausa-Fulani man is yet to even come-up with a very rich dictionary of Hausa/Fulani Language, talk less of a guide, a help that will make it easy for the Hausa speaking fellow to understand some complex ENglish /OUTglish words. NO! An emphatic NO!!! For Hausa man is busy marrying four wives, ?exploring varieties?. I can remember how our friend here Abu Mujahid invoked the help of other members of this forum before he could get the meaning of a FIG tree in Hausa. And also it is the proponents of this ideology that fill the net today with websites like Islamexposed.com or secularislam.org with views that are hard to crack. Anya kuwa ummita and Amin, don't u think that in the next hundred years our children and grandchildren who will become more attached to the net than we are today will find more reasons to subscribe to their views? ?Remember, Dan-Sokoto once mentioned how some of our ladies do marry non-Muslims. Don't you think in the next hundred years we will have more accumulations of such characters than we have now? This add to the fact that 90% percent of the publications of the 20th century were not publications of the Muslims and you will agree with me that over 90% of what is obtained on the net today is not Muslim-favoured substance talk less of Hausa-Fulani man. We are truly out-brained, out-brawned, out-gunned, out-skilled, out-moneyed, out-manned. Yes out-manned, for do we know that in the second half of the 19th century Muslims constituted one-third of the world population? How about now? Muslims now are only one sixth of the world population!!!! This renders the argument that Islam has increased over the centuries invalid.

I most note here that GLOBALISM did not start with the coming-up of the net and vision phones but I strongly believe that we are being infected with it faster through the unprecedented growth in modern technology. And it appears like we cannot help it. May be that is what informed the pessimism of Ibro and shedding of tears by Hafsat. ?True to God I fret too, for by day we loose our word power when it comes to speaking Hausa, we loose the Islamic Dress Code, we loose the Islamic values and upon all we define the Islamic Legal Theory in terms of the concepts provided by this new-demon-soul- impoverishing-robbing civilization.

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.....What will happen to the Hausa - Fulani? ?Probably the same thing that happened to the Hausas and the Fulanis when they were ?separate identities. And Why not? The Hausas were not able to stop it, neither the Fulanis. So how much more their hybrid posterity? We will just blend into another melting pot. Its direction? Only God knows at the moment and whoever cares to make a dissertation on the subject matter.

Yes, Ummu I love this, U got the Idea. We will change and become something else. But how about our Islamic culture? It too is going extinct  according to the reserch I made. Because we were 1/3 of the world population at the 19th century but now we are 1/6 of the world population. My concern is the way out. And most of the stuff you find around necessary for the intellectual battle today is not Muslim-favoured. The technology in itself is not being controlled by us.
Allah says " Walladhina Jaahaduu fina la nahdiyannahum subulana".
Meaning " those who strive in our ways we open up path-ways for them"
And Allah has never said in the Qur'an that He is with the Muslims or Mu'minin but He says once and again that he is with "those that patiently persevere." Now. Do we Muslims really persevere?

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Ummita Darling dear, I'm sorry if I hurt your sensibilities. That was not my intention. I have done as you asked and put my thinking cap and went into deep ruminations, and I still came out with my original opinion.

C u Huda, Haba, theres nefink about hurtin feelins, besides this is juss a thread that lingers on in a forum. U have every ryt 2 say wat u agree 2 disagree with, so du I. If @ all one disagree or agree, then theres nefink wrong, but wat u think 4ward, as simple as that. Sensibility..........I wish I had that. (Common b sensible & stop sayin u hurt ma sensiblity!! :D)Besides d thinkin session was juss a joke babes, didnt know u did it :o. But tell u wat u gat gud points up there.
But 4 now I give up, but still I'll maintain culture................I will even start some sort of motivatin thingyyyyyyyyy 2wards culture....mind 2 join me up?

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C u Huda, Haba, theres nefink about hurtin feelins, besides this is juss a thread that lingers on in a forum. U have every ryt 2 say wat u agree 2 disagree with, so du I. If @ all one disagree or agree, then theres nefink wrong, but wat u think 4ward, as simple as that. Sensibility..........I wish I had that. (Common b sensible & stop sayin u hurt ma sensiblity!! :D)Besides d thinkin session was juss a joke babes, didnt know u did it :o. But tell u wat u gat gud points up there.
But 4 now I give up, but still I'll maintain culture................I will even start some sort of motivatin thingyyyyyyyyy 2wards culture....mind 2 join me up?

Count me in even if its just to give moral support!!!!!! ;)I

Waziri, you are too PERSISTENT!!!!!
One of the most frustrating things that can happen to a person is to have all your ideas neatly tied up for posting and you accidently click the wrong icon and your ideas vaporize right in front of your eyes.   :-[ :-[ :-[
Ah well can't be helped, so you just have to wait a while longer till they materialize again or someone gives you a satisfactory answer to your DEMANDING and difficult question!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Waziri, you are too PERSISTENT!!!!!
One of the most frustrating things that can happen to a person is to have all your ideas neatly tied up for posting and you accidently click the wrong icon and your ideas vaporize right in front of your eyes. ? :-[ :-[ :-[
Ah well can't be helped, so you just have to wait a while longer till they materialize again or someone gives you a satisfactory answer to your DEMANDING and difficult question!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ayya!!! Ummu I did not know I ve been sending a wrong signal until after u spoke.

May be next time I will look for another target for my queries.

I sincerely have strong disdain for IT that hurts. For when boomerang bomerangs the target is its holder.

I think we should all be more careful next time.

For Life's asks more difficult questions than Waziri does. And the answers to those questions has always been the duty of MANKIND to find.

Hey!
What was that tirade all about? The 'demanding difficult question' was meant as a 'COMPLIMENT' Be proud that you can put posers that will all tie us into knots!!!

Oh another point, what I wrote about clicking wrong icons was really literal. So please don't read meanings where none are implied.

Mhm, Ummu what is there to be proud of? If one cannot solve problems then I don't think he should be hailed for creating them.

Ummu, language is a tool of illumination that is suppose to reflect the true emotions of the its user. With this, I think u used the wrong wordings to compliment poor Waziri.

Iam afraid but, by God,  I see more of  sacarsm and mockery  in your posting than praise. May be u used  wrong smileys: the crying ones and the grining ones, which of course express sadness and mockery respectively.

Ummu, I do encourage the good art of selectivity when it comes to communication. I think we should all move towards achieving a reasonable height in it. Allah says: Wa kulli ibadiy yakuliy latiy hiya ahsan". After all, it is always the issue not the person speaking about the issue.

Thank you and God bless

Allah kadai ya san abin da ze faru.