All of u gather around lets converse!!!

[Ummulhuda]

With  regards to Mariya's story, ni kullum ina mamakin wa 'yansu matan da za su shiga gidan wa'yansu da sunan an auro su. Su tarar da a complete family and then they proceed to tear the family apart. What pleasure do these women get out of it? To my understanding, if a woman decides that she can live and share a man with another woman, then she is the one who has to do all the compromising since ita taje ta tarar. Isn't it enough that she has been accepted by the members of the household as one of them? If a new kishiya truly loved her husband, she should try and get along with the ppl he gets along with and these will be primarily his other wives and kids. If any show her hostility then she stays out of their way as much as possible.
And then to use charms in order to secure the husband's attention. Where is the merit in that, when you think you can only secure the husband's attention under the influence of black arts? Not satisfied with that, one has to destroy his family also. Believe me, duk matar data ke haka ba son mijin take ba. Because if she hurts his family, she also hurts him and if she can stand to hurt him in that way, then she doesn't really love him.
Mariya, Allah Ya da da  karewa, amin.

[Ummulhuda]

Assalamu alikum
since the woman said she never had sex with that man i think there is no need to tell her husband ,had it been that she had sex with him then that will automaticallly haramta aurenta da mijin ta,Allah shine masani.

Ni kuwa in my opinion as a layperson, auren mace bai automatically haramta da mijin ta ba because she had an affair outside marriage. I am a layperson here as I noted so my views can be disregarded. But I am under the impression that there must be an act of LI'AN before the marriage becomes completely haram b/w the hubby and wife.
The husband must accuse the wife first, (and vice versa?). If the swearing of oaths take place then the marriage is forever anulled. Otherwise Allah ne kadai Yasan between the husband and the wife, and if a wife is cheating on her husband with another man and he never finds out then retribution will be exacted from her by Allah (S.W.T.) ranar kiyama, but she still remains the man's wife as long as he does not divorce her for some other reason (since he does not know her infidelity).

In ba haka ba kuma then Shira, if what you say is correct, then by implication, all those rich ladies keeping lovers, are automatically  living in sin with their legal husbands as well, since some of the men don't know about these affairs.

A man may know of his wife commiting adultery, if he does not accuse her of it, and forgives her then I think their marriage still stands. The rest kuma tsakanin ta da Allah ne, but if a husband forgives his wife, then she can be assured of forgiveness from Allah upon repentance.

Let's not forget one thing, while we are on the subject of infidelity, that while some women cheat on their husbands, it is more often the norm that  men cheat on their wives, rather than the other way round. Many women are also aware of the fact that their husbands cheat on them, but unlike when the husband cries foul and wishes for istant retribution, many women keep quiet about it. Does that mean then they become automatic divorcees, because their husbands are wayward? Of course not! So why should it be different for a woman?  

[Gimbiya]

Ummul,
for some reason I seem to agree with you most of the time. see I have a problem with the males cheating on their wives and think it's okay, but to them seeing their wife talking to another man on the street that's enough to call it quits. so I'm with all the way.

[Anonymous]

Salam,
Hope y'all are doing just kool, I feel like Iam knew here, coz so much has happnned and Iam glad I was able 2 squeeze lil tyme 2 read up every bit of this forum. Iam more than happy 2 learn alot and read up the mysterious stories.
I must pay condelence to NAS and I wuold like 2 let you know that, Lubna is waiting 4 you in heaven. Allah ya ji kanta Amin, mu kuma mu taya shi yin addu'a, Allah ya bshi wat makamanciyarta kuma ya jikanta da dukkan musulmi!! AMin.
Malama unknown, Allah ya kare, Allah ya ta kaita. Husna labarinki ya bani tsoro matuka, da duk na dauka tatsuniyoyi ne i dan naji irin wannan labarin, sai yanzu, mAlam Anwar, barkanka!! Allah ya kara taimakawa. Oh boy, 1/2sa u wan kill man with lafter, ummi na wao for ur dudes, ummulhuda congrats!!
Kai, wallahi I feel Iam missing soooooooo much, u guys shud keep it up!! Bless y'all....

[Anonymous]

I just wanted to show how very much I apreciate your kind reasoning. I taugth alot will crucify me especially when it had something to do with my mother. When I needed du'a the most that was when alot of my ppl back home were crucifying me. Kameel, dyme, Ihsan, Ice, Baby, Ummul, Moh, Fella & all the rest I tank you very much. Ummita am gald to be part of this whole thing.
Peace ya'all

[Blaqueen]

I just wanted to show how very much I apreciate your kind reasoning. I taugth alot will crucify me especially when it had something to do with my mother.
Peace ya'all

awww crucify u like how? :) well u thot wrong... we're all sinners.. juss some more messed up than others ::)... hehe joke... ;D
but f'real tho.. i still give u madd props tho.. aint come across mallo boi ruff as u.. :P. sha... movin' on...

[Hafsy_Lady]

MHMMMmmmmmm....hmmmmm amke I talk abi make I shuruf :-X I go talk........family onliners wuna no grab.......wuna no grab...? baku gane ba? baku gane bayani ba? hmmmmm make I unleash di secret..This Anwar and this Fyne dyme Ibi like say sometin dey cook for under pot. Make wuna read again from where di boy tell him sitori dyme justi dey firaiz di boi...hmmmmmmmmm gelz ;D ;D Ori don spill. mhmmmm make I go. henyways make wuna grab..I jealous wo he he he. Guyz I gatta roll out! Need 2 go do a little bit browsing and selecto.(for those of you wey gane wetin I mean, take this ;)..

[Aydee Fella]

Mariya dats sad i really feel sad if i see a polygamous family thats got al sorts of problems..

[Anonymous]

Sannu da kokari (yanmata) Mariya. Wishing you all the best.

Mrs Unknown I hope everything goes well. From the looks of it I dont have to add anything here because you have received the best advice from all our members

[Ibro2g]

Mareeyah, I'm really sorry. I feel u down here. I dont know but if there is anyway this forum could help, I know it'll b glad 2. I wish u the best of luck.
Allah ya taimaka mana gabaki daya, amin

[Hafsy_Lady]

mhmmmm all of wuna own beta for this forum. Naso I come do nak anoda shege. This time I promise never to apply any facial make up. Ok girls just want to recceive a days facila beatuy make up, we carry leg go saloon we one do haduwa for this our friend marriage munason muyi gayu and haduwa. We all decided to bring in a new trend..muka je akayi applying mana henna (incase all the yeye bois no grab) lallan mai filawa......ofinkakwakwe ::) let me proceed, with the exception of presido, she never apply anyway I no blame yan gayun karya. Mi and other four freinds apply. We went for facial make up I wan look pretty so I tell beauty applicator make she repair ma eyebrow small. Oya presido just dey make me laugh because I dey receive txt message from one Igbo boi(incase wuna wan know Ibgo boi see me, kuma shi be yadda ba yanayi) anyway presido she never do anything but make me laugh, na magazine she carry dey read. Ok I come do mistake naso beauty applicator come scrapeeeeee one eye brow.....fiawwwwwww. No hair remnant on one eye brow.......she come say am sorry madam but due to you lack of sitness but movement ,one of yuwa eyebrow is vanished completely from yuwa forhead....I jsut come do one kine turn naso I see my eyebrow don dissapere. chiawwwwww, chineke god/ I nono wetin to do beauty appilcator, na hot tears just dey comot. Presido come fall for chair dey laugh. Naso tears dey comot and one eye get raised eyebrow di other no get eyebrow nor hair at all. I come ask di lady say if I apply spirit automatic hair go appear. she come say am sorry madam but it will have to take a few days. I suwe I one kill miss beauty applicator. even though I neva receive correct beauty treatment. Naso I come manage go home dress shege I apply hadadden lace for my body. Nite time don nak. Party go start in hr time. I come wear one shegelege lace. come nak daurin goggoro. bu errrrrrrr my misvanished eyebrow naso I come use eye pencil marker trace eyebrow. we come jam pack for hausa get together, I get my bobo for one side but I still dey do search browse & selecto. Presido say she no go fit go kuma she never go. naso mi I carry leg go. We jsut dey enjoy with other freinds naso my yeye hand come reach face.......and fiwwwwwwwww black comot from eye brow..I neva realise till it is too late. wetin sef carry hand go face? I no know. Naso one secret admirer come bounce I just dey open teeth fia fia.. dey blink eye brow to get di boi attension mima I know say I fine so di boi  go come. Naso he come dey yarn. I just dey play hard to get, naso he come ask say, ke ji mana ;) ina dayan giranki ya tafi? I come look my hand..naso I come see smudged black for my hand for eveery where. I come realise say I remeber say I get one eyebrow wey vanish. One real one fake. Shame scatter! shame cover my whole body come see frustation. At that moment I said to my self walahi gobe zan tafi salloon ni banyadda ko gira na ko kudina

[ummita]

OK LEMME WASTE MA SUNDAY RESTIN HRS 2 TELL A TALE!!!!

Onliners: Plz help me come to conclusion: Who did I really have dinner with??????????

It started like this, During a trip 4 a pilgrimage, I was in Madina, so I went off to say my magrib prayers for I left my freinds shopping. I went in2 d mosque & spotted an empty place, but sitting just beside that next space was a lady who I would honestly call  Madam raggamuffin...she looked tattered, dirty and from the looks of it she must be so emaciated lackin propa food intake.

From my little observation which I made my final conclusion in just 3mins, that empty space was avoided because no 1 wanted 2 sit nxt 2 her. She was also sufferin from a  bad eye problem that her eyes were soooooooooooo unlookable......she was the type that a person could vomit in the middle of a lunch when u get a quick glance @ her.

Well I couldnt be the least bothered. Wat du I care, as long as she is human wat diffrence duz it make b/w herself & maself? Yeah even though she was soooo not the type of person anybody would love to sit by. I still proceeded walking towards her and thinking away. I pulled out ma jabbah & carpet and I turned it round and said to her, can you sit on it 2gether with me. She looked at me in dismay and disbelive she was also scared and I nodded to her giving her a hand gesture to come along. Yeah she did she sat quitely next to me avoidin me avoidin eye contact she just kept sayin her du'az. But something about her was quite worrying......and belive me I was amused by the way she was praying. I asked her some questions and she told me she was a hafeez, who lost mum & dad & lost her husband & kids...she had only one broda who was off in Iran or sumwhere like sum place like that (cant recap) that but she had no one nothing but herself. I felt terrible & almost 2 tears (not 2 mention a big capacity I have 2 brk down & ma big reserviour of tears, she laffs) All this about d woman neva did put me off instead I was really into this strange woman. After prayers I said to her, do you want to have lunch with me? She neva looked @ me but I kinda sensed she found it suprisin, so I asked her again and she said yes......

I quickly left my things behind and speed off to some fast food restaurant. I wasnt at all hungry infact me & my freinds had already fulled up our tanks but I just wanted to know more about her, but then she was a complete total stranger. Why was I so into her? Reasons I not know of :-/ & till this day I dont know!!. I came back with munchies,actually I bought d food 2 b hoovered by one person..cuz I was stuffed, I had already vacuumed much, came bck....she was still sitting and just about then she said to me you know I so much love chicken...by then I didnt have a doubt...but now am soooo curious how did she know I bought her chicken.? :-/

Well I pushed the whole food and watch her eat like she has never done before, I sat quitely hoping I could get the best out of her to speak up. 2 Tell me what ko?:-/ Wallahi nemer ben sabi ba? I didnt even know what was it about her that made me want to speak to her.

Well I was far away thinking about this lady who has no one & thankin Allah for makin us complete...... she rose up her head and broke my tauts she said to me, why are you not eating? she said am sorry I should have allowed you to eat first & I can have the remnant... :o That was so unbelivable..I felt so heartbroken.....but Yes I lied I 2 her I said to her...ow I was just about to....... but my tummy hurts...it has nothing to do with your hands dukked in2 d food.
Infact food was not d problem...even if there was a problem which arosed tension in me, she was d solution, there is something about her I wanted to know..but still I dont know wat I really wanted 2 know(a bit confusin..)
Wat I really wanted to know was, y did she has some sort of erry feelin & connection against me. One unusal thing was when she spoke she never looks me in the eye. Another thing was the way she sat, she sat in one postion 4 ova an hr and didnt move..I would have turned & changed a zillion positons. One more thing..was yeah!!! she was sooooo pretty but in her conditon it hid her prettiness. Well out of my taut did she break me, when she said to me can you spare me some dates...but boi...I had none but I said to her I will run off and get you some (OK...Dont take me 4 miss goody two shoes, mayb am juss d nxt Mother Teresa or Princess Diana :D..that am sooo in2 wretched ppl) ok lemme proceed I said I had none but she said I shoulnt bother getting her some. She now asked for water and I said to her I had none but herez some drink...I just turned round to get her d drink I bout purposely 4 her...I was usin 2 hands 2 pass d water..as respect but hey!!! wat did I see when I turned round...........nutin!, absolutely nefink! except her jabbah. lying on ma carpet.I turned round looked & searched I couldnt find this lady but she left her hijab & a small tasbah, infact if her shoes were gone. I would have said shez gone, but they were there...& they were some unique slippers I have neva seen....Mi lady was gone, vanished in2 thin air!!

but then came my realisation I didnt notice her goin off & it was juss a 3sec intervals,...me turnin round & she disapprearin!! then came anoda realisation,......I neva even saw her feet lets alone her hand she hid them under her jabbah & again she was so nice that I knew she wouldnt have left without saying goodbye.....but d most amusin was she said she was Arabic,....but believe she had a perfect gud english communication, I asked a lady few paces away if she did c a woman leavin she said nope......whut!!!!!! I began 2 shaken,  cuz I taut that was insane!!.....or mayb I was bcumin mental!!!! Impossible....well at that moment I began to get freaky. I began to shiver. b/4 u knew it I was out of the mosque, heading to where I left my freinds...a few mins later I spotted them.......they were even freaker than I was cuz,..they said 2 me I was scaring them with my veryyyyy unusal behaviour that I have just started..I became very tensed..& even a lil boi did scare me when he walked pass me in that situaiton...I get jumpy whn ppl pass-by. I said nutin till we were heading bck............4 a dayz rest. I finally summoned up 2 courage 2 tell my story.

My freinds kept all quite till I was cleaned out from ma mouth 2 d heart, finally they all sparked out laffin......some were fallin off. Now that I taut was even more scary.....well all they said to me was gurl........u really iz on crack, cocaine & speed........they neva belived a thing...well I cundt b bothered 2 make them believe.or anybody. All I was afta was checkin unda ma bed every two mins & lookin @ ma bck 2 make sure I was safe! then I decided 2 ignore all them gurlfreinds who I taut really were the once on Speed & crack!! ::)

I ducked ma hand in2 ma bag 4 a gum.,,,,,,,,,nutin touched ma hand, su'in did..I brought it out.............it was........it was........a rosery.....it was a tasbah d ladys tiny tasbah....how did it get there? I left it on d floor near her hijab..How did it get in2 ma bag. It still remains a mystery 2 me. cuz neva was I a believer of such things...even when miracles did happen..but not in unusaul ways!!I finally told ma freinds.look herez a tasbah I was tellin u that..even though d lady seems soo poor she has a real unique beautiful tasbah..now its in ma tremblin hands.

This tym every one was headin 4 d door.............so was I. Now I told ma gramz about it, & she asked 4 d tasbah I said 2 her plz go pick it up urself in that bedroom...........cant go in there!!! well ma gramz said mayb she was a soccerer or mayb an angel from above!!!!!!!!!!! Now this tym I was headin 4 d doors.....................I was so scared that I neva did I invite ppl 2 sit with me...

For the tasbah....ma granny kept hold of it,...for ma freinds they were the real speedy gurl who were high on d run, who were headin 4 d doors. In ma own situation, now I stand out like this askin u.....du u have any idea who I really had dinner with apart from seeing her as a normal old lady? WHO DID I REALLY HAVE DINNER WITH? :-/ :-/

This came from past xperiances, taut I shud share a bit...afta ya'all have said ur stories, Id also like to say a big thankkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkz 2 all of u. Indeed ya'all have led a life 2 tell a tale ;)

Heck did I type all thattttt? Call mi a professional typist ;)  

[Anonymous]

Kai................Ummita for all these yrs I've known you, ai bansanki da tsoro ba. This is one interesting mind chilling story. Gaskiya it gave me the goosebumpsssss. To answer who you had dinner in my own opinion, I would go with what your nan said: Yeah maybe you had dinner with an angel. The funny bit was about your freinds ;D

[Anonymous]

My God, that was soooo.. dunno!! yeah, she must be an angel.  It was sum wat scary but the simple fact that it was in a mosque made me undesrtood the whole thing. But ummi u really have a strong mind to have get talking 2 the old woman!!
Miracle happens!! Loads of us never realises that Allah tests our faith in so many different ways. It seems u have passed this particular one. I pray we get to pass ours when the time comes. Lucky u, u had dinner with an angel...

[Borg]

Wow, some story Ummita. Dont know but i would think you probably had an encounter with a Jinn instead of an angel, but Allah knows best. Now we know where all that talent is coming from ;D, she must have given you a gift ;). I have heard of stories like that where pple just appear for no reason and dissappear for no reason, especially in the holy mosque in Madina, you know it is not only us humans that are muslims but the jinns as well, so they also go there to pray, just like we do, to evade attention they appear very haggard and ugly since they are naturally better looking than we are.