HABA JANAR - LET IT GO MANA

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HUSNAA

Shekarau has no vision. He came to power by default. If Kwankwaso hadnt destroyed his chances by being devious, he'd have had a chance at a second term and mayb pdp would be in power today. I certainly have no confidence in Shekarau. Being honest is not enough. One should enforce honesty and also do something for the devpt of the state. At least munga tabarmar kwankwaso ko shimfidar kwankwaso lining the pavements of Kano :P :P
Ghafurallahi lana wa lakum

bakangizo

Quote from: HUSNAA on September 25, 2008, 01:07:26 PM
Shekarau has no vision. He came to power by default. If Kwankwaso hadnt destroyed his chances by being devious, he'd have had a chance at a second term and mayb pdp would be in power today. I certainly have no confidence in Shekarau. Being honest is not enough. One should enforce honesty and also do something for the devpt of the state. At least munga tabarmar kwankwaso ko shimfidar kwankwaso lining the pavements of Kano :P :P

No, no, no. You are way off the mark with that criticism. To say that Shekarau has no vision is simply not true, unless if you just want to criticise only for criticism sake. I don't want to transform this into a debate on Shekarau's achievements, but anyone who can confront the monstrous problem of portable water in Kano head-on cannot be said to lack vision. Anyone who would decide to tackle the endemic rot in our society's  moral fabric cannot be said to lack vision. Agreed, these were not 100% successful, but progress was made and it is there for all to see. Hospitals were built, the most recent being the Neurological Hospital (the first and probably only of its type this part of the country). Roads were constructed (and are still being constructed).

I wonder why you would even mention Kwankwaso in a way of comparism. What has he done? Pavements? What? C'mon, be objective mana, hajia. I know you don't the like Mallam, primarily because of Buhari, but to say that "at least munga tabarmar/pavement din kwankwaso" is just, well, a deliberate twist of the fact just to show Mallam as having done nothing. Allah ya tsare mu da irin su kwankwaso, amin.

So even if Mallam came to power by "default" (whatever that means) in 2003 as you claim, his victory in 2007 is a testimony that he had not let the people down. He won simply because the people liked what he did in his first term. And he won despite opposition from two major forces - Buhari and Obasanjo!!

Dan-Borno

Quote from: HUSNAA on September 25, 2008, 01:07:26 PM
He came to power by default.

people sabi criticism no be small, see how hajiya
used grammar scatter shekarau's 5 years of rural
transformation into this - chei.

as it relates to the topic of discussion which is the
presidency, you knew Shekarau distingushes himself
in so many areas.  What Nigeria needs is men with
integrity like him - as far as his records shows, he is
still at the top rank - keeping political interest aside.
"My mama always used to tell me: 'If you can't find somethin' to live for, you best find somethin' to die for" - Tupak

HUSNAA

To ya daina sai wa hakimai da sarakuna motoci. Kuma wannan m Musa Iliyasu kwankwason, bans san inda yaje ya digirgire ba... da ake lakana masa dr. Tunda ga saudia yake maida martani akan sayen motocin, wai gwamnatuns su tayi daidai... lol
Ghafurallahi lana wa lakum

Muhsin

Gaskiya ne Hajiya Husnaa. Shekarau lacks mission and vision at all. What a callow man he has turned to? What a shame for poeple of Kano State?

Talking about those so-called 'doctors' of this administration. Thats very much funny, wallahi. Don't you know, Husnaa? Ai they are many. LOL. viz: Dr. Musa Iliyasu Kwankwaso, Dr. Baffa Babba, Dr. Bala Kosawa to mention but three. And only one of them I can say he has diploma from Audu Bako College of Agric. Danbatta. Thats funny enough.
Get to know [and remember] Allah in prosperity & He will know  [and remember] you in adversity.

gogannaka

LOL,Muhsin da tonon asiri.
That Bala Kosawa guy i think is mentally retarded,Allah na tuba.

Like BKGZ i used to be an ardent supporter of Shekarau,wallahi har addu'a nake masa cos i had so much hope in him but after his first term i lost confidence.

Really if he has a vision then it is an unrealistic one.That human development vision.
The Kaduna state government is building a new city and they are going to link the city to abuja using the standard guage rail system(speed train).That is vision.

I couldnt beleive my eyes when i saw some pictures of what Lagos state is becoming.Har wani Clover garden na gani,na ce garin dadi na nesa. Imagine the governor has planted palm trees in those slums that used to be under the bridges.That is vision.

Amma Kano sai dai a ba wa tsangayu 900million,the vehicles he disbursed amount to more than 3billion.
I even heard some min of finance official saying that the Adaidaita sahu corporation's account is never audited. Badakala kawai.

BKGZ sorry but the whole ANPP project is unrealistic.Bad as e bad PDP is better.
Surely after suffering comes enjoyment

Muhsin

LOL ;D ;D ;D GGNK.

Wallahi bana jin da ka fini san bawan Allah nan. Amma yanzu....aki kasuwa. :(
Get to know [and remember] Allah in prosperity & He will know  [and remember] you in adversity.

bakangizo

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Quote from: gogannaka on September 27, 2008, 06:02:46 PM
Really if he has a vision then it is an unrealistic one.That human development vision.
The Kaduna state government is building a new city and they are going to link the city to abuja using the standard guage rail system(speed train).That is vision.

I couldnt beleive my eyes when i saw some pictures of what Lagos state is becoming.Har wani Clover garden na gani,na ce garin dadi na nesa. Imagine the governor has planted palm trees in those slums that used to be under the bridges.That is vision.

Amma Kano sai dai a ba wa tsangayu 900million,the vehicles he disbursed amount to more than 3billion.
I even heard some min of finance official saying that the Adaidaita sahu corporation's account is never audited. Badakala kawai.

BKGZ sorry but the whole ANPP project is unrealistic.Bad as e bad PDP is better.

If I hadn't known you, I wouldn't have bothered myself replying to these seemingly naive statements. I believe you are too much of an intellectual to fall into the typical Kano stupid political rantings and accusations. So now the cost of the vehicles bought is 3 Billion, right? Good. You got that from where? The usual dirty trash being spewed out by PDP on a daily basis on Freedom Radio? Or you heard that on the streets? You know, one thing I find funny and distasteful about Kano politics is the bandwagon effect, where everyone shift to the same love/hate side without any regard for objectivity, or sensible analysis of events.

You said Lagos is building a Clover garden. So Kano should have one, right? And Kaduna is building a newcity to link Abuja. So Kano should build a city as well, abi? Do you know how much Lagos gets on a monthly basis as internally generated revenue, plus federal allocation? Please get the figures and compare that with what Kano gets, taking into consideration that Kano is additionally more populous, before you make generalizations and dream of Clover Gardens. As for the Kaduna New City, am surpised you are eager to mention another state's governor's dream, and use it as a basis to criticise another governor. I'm sure if we are to go round the states in Nigeria, we will unearth  multitudes of such "vision" planned by the Governors. Politics my friend, politics.

Now lets talk about visions. Visions that you said Shekarau doesn't have because he 'only' care about Human Development. However, Kaduna State's governor has vision because he's building a New City with rail to link Abuja. Isn't it funny that Kaduna State's Governor dream of building a newcity to link Abuja (which has not even started) is considered by you to be realistic, while shekarau's human devt. programmes (which were already done and yielded some fruits) are not realistic! You are joking, aren't you? You see what I mean by Kano's brand of Bandwagon criticism? - "The gist in town is that Mr. "A" hasn't done anything, so lets join in the condemnation". Forget logic. Just join in the chorus.

Pray, what's the definition of vision? Can you go and look those thousands of people Shekarau employed (most of them sacked by PDP under kwankwaso) in the eye and tell them that Shekarau's human devt is not a vision? Can you go and look those people whose areas have never seen tap water until now, (kaman anguwan mu) in the eye and tell them that human devt. is not a vision? Can you go and tell those living around those several roads being constructed everyday, like Sarkin Yaki road (which was tattered since I was kid) and France Road ( which kwankwaso spends hundreds of millions on and which didn't last a year), Kwana Hudu, Hotoro GRA, etc, etc, etc, that shekarau has no vision? What is vision? Eh?

Quote from: HUSNAA on September 25, 2008, 10:59:41 PM
To ya daina sai wa hakimai da sarakuna motoci. Kuma wannan m Musa Iliyasu kwankwason, bans san inda yaje ya digirgire ba... da ake lakana masa dr. Tunda ga saudia yake maida martani akan sayen motocin, wai gwamnatuns su tayi daidai... lol

Hajia ga dukkan alamu, ba ki san yadda siyasar kano take ba. Siyasa ce kawai ta rashin kunya da zagin shugabanni. Kada ma kiga laifin shekarau don yana hulda da irin su Musa Iliyasu.  In Kano it is imperative that you have their type in your camp. They are very critical for survival. Believe me when I say that without them, a governor cannot survive a year. When you have ***** people like Rimi and Kwamkwaso, who believe power should be got through whatever means (both good and evil) as your opponents, you just have to get 'protection'. It is funny that you ppl are quick to mention Musa Iliyasu, Lawal K/Mata, but oddly enough conviniently forget the PDP thugs created by Kwankwaso & Co., for the single purpose of harrasing opposition party members. People like Ali Baba, Baba Impossible, Lili Gabari etc have no job but to heckle and insult on a daily basis. In a nutshell, Shekarau has no option but to play them at their game. It is the only way to survive in Kano politics. Ai da ba haka ya fara ba. Shi ma ba girma ba arziki dole ya nema ya hada tafiyar sa da irin su. Otherwise, da wallahi da sun hana shi sakat a Kano. You need to be here to understand the nature of the dirty irresponsible politics being played.

gogannaka

BKGZ,ni ma duk nayi irin wannan kare Shekarau din.
Infact har a board din nan ma haka,some of my friends even think i have something gaining from Shekarau and it would surprise you to know that  stopped listening to freedom radio's Kowanne Gauta because of those illicit rantings na yan siyasa musamman ma 'yan PDP.

But fact remains fact BKGZ, Shekarau lacks the Vision to take Kano forward.He lacks the vision to rightly place Kano where it is supposed to be as the most populous state in Nigeria.
In terms of monthly federal allocation, apart from the Niger Delta states,Kano gets the highest allocation from the federation reserve.

You talk about Kano being the most populous state,i am sure you are aware how the population has outstretched the infrastructure. A visionary leader would have since created satellite towns or new cities better than the existing one. As the most populous state in Nigeria,how many houses has the Shekarau administration successfully built and handed over? The only ones i am aware of are some 12 units in Kumbotso-zawachiki area.Haba don Allah,13 million inhabitants and they build 12,kai lets say ma 100 houses. Find out how many Borno,gombe,jigawa etc have built.
Even kwankwaso built the mariri and zawachiki estates that had more than 300 units combined.You can say that they were non qualitative but still,half a bread is better than none.
So BKGZ, YES, Kano should (should have) built new cities since. They don't have to depend on monthly allocation for God's sake,the PPP is the fastest growing developmental approach now.That is what abuja,kaduna,lagos and everyone(but Kano) is opting for.

Regarding the internally generated revenue,isn't is laughable that Kano being the commerce center of northern nigeria generates a meagre amount. The leaders of lagos have a vision. They harnessed their potentials,being the biggest IR earner, they digitised their revenue collection in such a way that multiple taxation as well as siphoning govt revenue by revenue collectors was avoided.Go and see how they do their motor vehicle license.Abun mamaki wai sai Bauchi state ce take son ta yi implemanting such a system.

Shekarau yana tituna quite alright but with the pace of devt,he should do more.
Rufin asirin shi daya da aka fara triplization project din nan cos what is the essence the cars have doubled and the roads remain as the were.These roads were planned to take a certain number of vehicles but now that number has been quadrupled so don ka wani gyara titi you are not solving matters.You are just subjecting the streets to more stress,ask the civil engineers.

Kai i better stop.
My friend came over for sallah from Adamawa,he hadn't been to kano for like 4 years. He told me he saw physical changes in all the states he passed through except Kano.He didn't see any new change in banda the 'one side bigger than the other side' titin gidan gwamna and the new TV at the silver jubilee round about.
Allah ya kawo mana cii gaba wannan gari.


Back to the thread topic.
Supreme court ruling is on the 23rd.
Buhari says yar'adua has never called him or contacted hm since he became president.
Comment.
Surely after suffering comes enjoyment

Dan-Borno

i think you guys opposing shekarau's administration need
to revisit and recollect your past when he assumed office
in 2003.  Though not leaving in Kano, but shekarau's legacies
have cut across all the northern States, as it can be boasted
as one Governor that has changed the meaning of politics
within a short period of time.

I still insist that if at all the decision to search for a befitting
Presidential candidate arises between our northern governors,
there is no doubt shekarau is going to lead with out a second
option.

Kanawa, thank Allah for giving you a leader with the fear of
Him and the will to take people to a promise land.

back to the thread:

Me kace GGNK? did you mean the Old General? if yes, dont
mind him, lamarin Buhari yana bukatan addu'a seriously,
because his quest for leading Nigeria is maturing to lust, as
he is still insiting that the court annule the election or declare
him the new president - tufikwa.
"My mama always used to tell me: 'If you can't find somethin' to live for, you best find somethin' to die for" - Tupak

HUSNAA

Quote from: Dan-Borno on October 03, 2008, 10:49:40 PM
i think you guys opposing shekarau's administration need
to revisit and recollect your past when he assumed office
in 2003.  Though not leaving in Kano, but shekarau's legacies
have cut across all the northern States, as it can be boasted
as one Governor that has changed the meaning of politics
within a short period of time.

I still insist that if at all the decision to search for a befitting
Presidential candidate arises between our northern governors,
there is no doubt shekarau is going to lead with out a second
option.

Kanawa, thank Allah for giving you a leader with the fear of
Him and the will to take people to a promise land.

back to the thread:

Me kace GGNK? did you mean the Old General? if yes, dont
mind him, lamarin Buhari yana bukatan addu'a seriously,
because his quest for leading Nigeria is maturing to lust, as
he is still insiting that the court annule the election or declare
him the new president - tufikwa.

Dan Borno dan Allah dai na magana like this. Shekarau will make one of the worst presidents in Nigeria. Ina amfanin wai a ce kai mai gaskiya and yet you cant enforce the rule of gaskiya on your minions and ministers. There's no point. I'd rather have a dynamic leader who will work to develop my state and do his shenanigans on the side than one who does nothing but kwaskwarima as GGNK points out lets his minions siphon off the allocated revenue and at the end of the day, there is nothing much to show for all the billions of naira kano gets. Kuma ma a daidai ta sahu should not be top priority. Befor u decide to change the moral outlook of a ppl, take care to prevent the situations that make them morally bankrupt and nothing in this society precipitates moral bankruptcy as poverty, something which Shekarau is not doing so much about.

Allah Ya Sa Janar da Atiku su sami galaba akan Yar adua. I believe that the supreme court should really look at the COMPETENCY of the president in their decision to either award him victory or not.
Ghafurallahi lana wa lakum

gogannaka

Kaduna State Governor, Namadi Sambo, has declared that plans have been concluded to introduce a fast rail service that would run from Kaduna to Abuja.
This is as a result of successful re-introduction of rail transport within the state, which runs daily shuttles through four local government areas of the state.
Sambo said the rail service would take only an hour for those travelling from Kaduna to Abuja, and would impact positively on acute shortage of housing  faced by workers in Abuja, as the rail service would make it possible for people to go to Abuja in the morning and come back to sleep in Kaduna.
Government has also concluded plans to expand the intra-city rail transport which hitherto runs through four local governments, to cover  14, with two-minutes stop at each of the 21 terminal stations along its route, charging N20 only as the fare.
Director of Personnel, Kaura Local Government, which now enjoys the service after its expansion, noted that rail transport has now become the preferred means of transportation for the masses,  due to its affordability and the most comfortable means of transportation, which also enables famers to easily convey their produce to the city centre without any problem.

VISION
Surely after suffering comes enjoyment

HUSNAA

Quote from: gogannaka on October 06, 2008, 10:54:47 AM
Kaduna State Governor, Namadi Sambo, has declared that plans have been concluded to introduce a fast rail service that would run from Kaduna to Abuja.
This is as a result of successful re-introduction of rail transport within the state, which runs daily shuttles through four local government areas of the state.
Sambo said the rail service would take only an hour for those travelling from Kaduna to Abuja, and would impact positively on acute shortage of housing  faced by workers in Abuja, as the rail service would make it possible for people to go to Abuja in the morning and come back to sleep in Kaduna.
Government has also concluded plans to expand the intra-city rail transport which hitherto runs through four local governments, to cover  14, with two-minutes stop at each of the 21 terminal stations along its route, charging N20 only as the fare.
Director of Personnel, Kaura Local Government, which now enjoys the service after its expansion, noted that rail transport has now become the preferred means of transportation for the masses,  due to its affordability and the most comfortable means of transportation, which also enables famers to easily convey their produce to the city centre without any problem.

VISION

Heard about that GGNK, and I am impressed. Really am. Kai ko a takarda ne kawai, at least it gives one an idea that the guy knows whats he's doing.

Ghafurallahi lana wa lakum

gogannaka

I assure you it is not only on paper.Those inter local govt lines exist and are functional.

Imagne how it would have been if all the northern governors put their heads together and each state rehabilitate the existing rail systems. I wonder what they even discuss at that their northern governors forum. No economy is boosted without a good rail network. It is very vital to develoment.
Surely after suffering comes enjoyment

Jibo

Yeah! That is vision and if all Governors in the north would work together, each in his state! a lot of problems of transportations and likes would be solved! But would they?! ??? ??? ???
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