Dariye's Reinstatement: to be or not to be?

alhaji_aminu · November 09, 2004, 10:28:07 PM

Salam

Anyone reading Nigerian papers must have come across this issue. The issue of suspending the state of emergency in Plateau and reinstating the elected governor (Joshua Dariye) and the state house of assembly. The mandate of Maj Gen Chris Alli is for six months ending on the 19th of Nov (it is renewable).

Under normal circumstances, the fact that an elected official will be handed back his duly deserved seat is a welcome development. In the case of Dariye, all available eveidence suggests otherwise.

As most of us know, the declaration of a SOE by the Fed Govt was in response to the widespread atrocities, killing, and pillaging taking place in Jos and it's environs by both the Christian and Muslim communities. That Dariye wasn't able or wasn't willing or was deliberately indifferent to dealing with the situation decisively meant a vacuum is being created by the governor of which only chaos and more violence could fill.
Now 6 months later, what has changed. For one, the tit-for-tat killing witnessed earlier this year has all but seized. And secondly, lives are being rebuilt- albeit elsewhere in Nassarawa and Bauchi States.

While all this is going on, the governor hasn't found it convinient to dissociate himself from the charge against him of inciting violence by his comments and actions. By not coming out forcefully arguing for the need to live in peace and tranquility, the governor has given the impression that he doesn't see anything wrong in his actions and if reinstated, he would do no different from what he has done. This is unacceptable.

Given that protecting the lives of people in plateau is the responsibility of Dariye and, acknowledging that he has failed to do so; it becomes plainly clear that Dariye has shirked, and failed in carrying out the duties which he swore to discharge when he became governor. This in of itself is enough to show he is NOT to be reinstated.

Another reason, although less serious in terms of it's impact to peace, to justify not reinstating Dariye is his violation of constititional processes by maintaining an account overseas. As stipulated in the 5th schedule of constitution, a public official may, by law, not hold a foreign bank account. That it is now a matter of public record that Dariye did possess an account in London, under his name (what an idiot), means he, in essence, makes himself unfit to govern a state.

Just recently, some notable northern christians expressed their opinion vis-a-vis the reinstatement of Dariye. They have called for his return. This would have been a commendable move had it not being made in response to the call by some Muslims in Jos for the SOE to continue for a while longer. They argue it's not safe yet
(Note: many refugees are still in Bauchi. They are sheltered there because they dont believe it's safe enough for them to return).

In ending, I think it is a great disservice to the nation what the northern christian forum is doing by politicizing the issue. Politicizing the issue will further polarize the communities which will make the state less safe and tense which is what nessesitated the impostion of a SOE in the first place. So their prnouncements are hurting more than it helps.
I also think the best way to settle this impasse is by prosecuting Dariye for incitement and violating the constitution. This can only be achieved if Dariye is stripped off the immunity he enjoys as a governor. As things stand now, with the SOE in place, Dariye is NOT a governor and so, he can be prosecuted. If the 19th of Nov deadline passes without any charges filed then it becomes really hard for the govt to do anything.

Solution: Extend the SOE or charge Dariye.

My opinion!

mallamt · November 09, 2004, 11:01:42 PM

Dariye returning!! well another joke in a comical government - as they say only in nigeria!!! I substantially do agree with most of the comments questioning Dariyes return. It is evident from what has happened in Jos that the man is incompetent to be a gov. I wonder why he is being returned, why was he made to step aside in the first place was it because of his incompetence in handling the situation or a tendency of partisanship? Is the FG now convienced that he is capable to run the state? If so on what basis are they confident?

On the issue of his bank account overseas, I beg to differ with you in one respect. It is not a "less serious" offence, he is a cheif executive of a state and has sworn to uphold the constitution and even if it is for this reason I believe he should be impeached or made to answer some questions, either way he will his credibility is questionable and he must not be allowed to return. Why is the FG not investigating him? What about the investigation by the scotland yard? how did he get the money he is depositing overseas? What about the nigerian (FG) fight against fraud and corruption? There is no way with this attitude that anyone will believe we are worried or serious in fighting corruption. As far as I am concerned on this issue alone if Dariye is in nigeria he should be under arrest or under serious police investigation and his movement restricted.

I do agree with you that the politicization of the issue by northern christains may be wrong, but there action must not be seen in isolation of other occurrances in the country, especially the north. It is for this sort of thing that I am in total disagreement of mixing religion with politics. Do not forget that these are people who woke up in some of their states and were told they now will live under sharia law - they were never consulted. There reaction is more deep rooted than it is appearing, and it is surfacing out of a generally held belief amongst non muslims that no matter how wrong a muslim is on an issue his muslim brothers will always back him. This is a very deep seated issue that can not be answered or explored properly in this thread.

alhaji_aminu · November 10, 2004, 06:01:04 AM

sannunka dai mallamt.
It's really nice how on this occasion we are on the same side on an issue. You are right in suggesting that embezzlement is not, in general, 'a less serious' issue. In this context, however, I meant maintaining a foreign account by Dariye isn't going to affect the safety of people living in Jos.
Very true it is that the politicization of the issue is not in isolation. It's just that the NCF has taken a more prominent and perhaps more pushy posturing in this respect. Lets not forget they have every right to do so.
You have many questions I see from your post. Same hold here mate. Nigeria is indeed a land where there are more questions than answers and it is only when people like Dariye and Atiku are taken out that things will change.

mrguest · November 10, 2004, 07:43:10 PM

Quote from: "mallamt"Dariye returning!! well another joke in a comical government - as they say only in nigeria!!! I substantially do agree with most of the comments questioning Dariyes return. It is evident from what has happened in Jos that the man is incompetent to be a gov. I wonder why he is being returned, why was he made to step aside in the first place was it because of his incompetence in handling the situation or a tendency of partisanship? Is the FG now convienced that he is capable to run the state? If so on what basis are they confident?

On the issue of his bank account overseas, I beg to differ with you in one respect. It is not a "less serious" offence, he is a cheif executive of a state and has sworn to uphold the constitution and even if it is for this reason I believe he should be impeached or made to answer some questions, either way he will his credibility is questionable and he must not be allowed to return. Why is the FG not investigating him? What about the investigation by the scotland yard? how did he get the money he is depositing overseas? What about the nigerian (FG) fight against fraud and corruption? There is no way with this attitude that anyone will believe we are worried or serious in fighting corruption. As far as I am concerned on this issue alone if Dariye is in nigeria he should be under arrest or under serious police investigation and his movement restricted.

I do agree with you that the politicization of the issue by northern christains may be wrong, but there action must not be seen in isolation of other occurrances in the country, especially the north. It is for this sort of thing that I am in total disagreement of mixing religion with politics. Do not forget that these are people who woke up in some of their states and were told they now will live under sharia law - they were never consulted. There reaction is more deep rooted than it is appearing, and it is surfacing out of a generally held belief amongst non muslims that no matter how wrong a muslim is on an issue his muslim brothers will always back him. This is a very deep seated issue that can not be answered or explored properly in this thread.

Mallam what is dariye crime?. that he is a christain or that he is not Hausa/fulani which ?... Dariye have done nothing wrong, over one million nigeria have account outside the country... so what , Dariye is a good man, the people is the hausa/fulani, have to respect the right of other nigerian... there are other group living in nigeria too... Another thing is the hausa/fulani should ask their self why are they hated in the land against them.. The yoruba do not like them, the south south do not like them, the Igbo do not like them, the middle belt do not like them... I believe there is something wrong with the hausa/fulani people and they need to sit down and change , so that other people in nigeria can change their altitude toward them,, That is what i believe.. I may be wrong.

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mallamt · November 10, 2004, 08:29:04 PM

mr guest

I have been consistent. Anyway the issue on this thread is Dariyes reinstatement, so I do not really understand your anti arewa/fulani jibes here, I do not believe they deserve and response, I do plead with other forumites to also ignore them. Can we remain focused please.

mrguest · November 11, 2004, 01:09:15 AM

Quote from: "mallamt"mr guest

I have been consistent. Anyway the issue on this thread is Dariyes reinstatement, so I do not really understand your anti arewa/fulani jibes here, I do not believe they deserve and response, I do plead with other forumites to also ignore them. Can we remain focused please.

Mallam, why do you want to run away from the issue, why are you asking others to run away from you... You can never solve or find solution to a problem except in discuss it.. And now again , why do other nigerian , hate the Hausa/fulani?..
I have no hate for Hausa/fulani, but I have leave in the USA , for so long, but from all I ready on the internet and my visiting nigeria, I relaised that Everybody who is not Hausa/fulani. just hate the Hausa/fulani.. Why I may ask,, I really want to know... So there something I am missing...

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alhaji_aminu · November 11, 2004, 05:10:37 PM

mallamt. I concur with you statement on responding to mrguest's diatribe.....

mrguest · November 11, 2004, 05:59:42 PM

Quote from: "myadudu"mallamt. I concur with you statement on responding to mrguest's diatribe.....

dudu, are you scared of a fight, i have always know you to be a man who is bold to take on issue...

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Nuruddeen · November 16, 2004, 12:14:43 PM

God forbid!!!! Allah ya sauwake mutumin da bashi da tausayi.

mrguest · November 16, 2004, 07:03:54 PM

Quote from: "Nuruddeen"God forbid!!!! Allah ya sauwake mutumin da bashi da tausayi.

He is back already, so God forbid nothing

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EMTL · November 17, 2004, 10:10:08 AM

Assalamu alaikum,
My opinion is dariye should be taken to court for genocide but not to be returned as Governor. Such people donot have the capabilities of being leaders.

mrguest · November 17, 2004, 04:52:27 PM

Quote from: "EMTL"Assalamu alaikum,
My opinion is dariye should be taken to court for genocide but not to be returned as Governor. Such people donot have the capabilities of being leaders.

Nonsense, what about all the kaduna crisis, Kano crisis, borno crisis, when non hausa where killed, All the governor remain in Power, does Islam not teach fairness, Do unto other what you want them to do unto you... The hausa/fulani should learn , that any for of crisis they create other Nigerian would reverge. What you sow , hausa/fulani you would reap... The mentallity of an average hausa/fulani should change, that Voilent is not the only way...They hausa/fulani have been more involve in violent in Nigeria, than any other group... they have to change,, if not , people would continue to hate the hausa/fulani, I beg you all to change, so that all nigerian would love you...

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alhaji_aminu · November 17, 2004, 05:06:34 PM

salam

Rumors are that the chap is sneaking into Jos to claim his throne! Whether or not he will be successful depends on the resolve of the federal government. Dariye presents a clear opportuity for EFCC to showcase it's strength in prosecuting erring public officials.

But then, we must not forget his vile and puerile comments which flamed the winds murder. I don't think the mayhem and killings in Jos can be characterized as genocide. It's more like'ethnic cleansing' which is just as loathsome.

I hope the situation will be resolved in a manner that does justice to all Muslims, Christians, Biroms, Hausa-Fulani, Dariye, and everyone.

peace!

mrguest · November 18, 2004, 01:49:56 PM

It would be injustice, if they do not allow Dariye to return, it would send a sign, that the Hausa/fulani is above other...

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Quote from: "mrguest"
Quote from: "EMTL"Assalamu alaikum,
My opinion is dariye should be taken to court for genocide but not to be returned as Governor. Such people donot have the capabilities of being leaders.
Nonsense, what about all the kaduna crisis, Kano crisis, borno crisis, when non hausa where killed, All the governor remain in Power, does Islam not teach fairness, Do unto other what you want them to do unto you... The hausa/fulani should learn , that any for of crisis they create other Nigerian would reverge. What you sow , hausa/fulani you would reap... The mentallity of an average hausa/fulani should change, that Voilent is not the only way...They hausa/fulani have been more involve in violent in Nigeria, than any other group... they have to change,, if not , people would continue to hate the hausa/fulani, I beg you all to change, so that all nigerian would love you...

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SAAHIB 92 · December 06, 2004, 01:40:22 PM

MRGUEST,

ARE YOU LOOKIN FOR SOLUTION OR YOU ARE TAKING SIDE,?ASSUMING YOU ARE A MEDIATOR IN JOS CRISES OR IN ANY PART, COULD YOU ALLOWS A SELF ACCLAIMED BOSS NOT A LEADER ,WHO LICENCED AND CONNIVES WITH SOME BLOOD THIRSTY FOOLS TO CONTINUE TRODDING ON THE RIGHT TO LIFE OF SOME FEW PEOPLE, JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE HAUSA FULANI AS THE STUPID FOOL DARIYE CLAIMED. TO SEIZE HIS POWER PERPETUALLY FOR NOMALCY TO RETURN ,OR ALLOW HIM CONTINUE HIS UNGUIDED UTTERENCES AGAINST HAUSA FULANI AND MUSLIM IN GENERAL. NOTE: THE SKIRMISH WAS MORE OF RELIGIOUS AND ETHNIC CLEANSING THAN ISSUE OF SETTLERS. BE SPECIFIC .