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Started by Boomer, December 09, 2002, 12:57:04 AM

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Waziri

Boomer,

I just love the way your comments do come. Keep it up.

Waziri  

Anonymous

LAW!!!  LAW!! LAW

Is there any problem studying English law 2 Shariah law?, cuz d way I c it, if asked ur field & u mention taking d path of English Law esp in Kano, they look u with disgust, stating how unpatriotic u r about ur religion.(which seems very funny & weird 2 me) I taught eni1 can du wat eva they feel like, choose their career paths in wat eva field it is!!! :-/h Dunno how Kano runz its style!!

Secondly is this statement we've all heard. Lawyers r liers, 2 me, no one has ever brougt out facts to back them up on that statement & wat makes them think its true.

Lastly, from my own point of view. Law is law. Its all about bringing down justice 'n' taking out injustice. People either shape in or shape out.

Of course Shariah Law is a muslim law, but to me there is gr8t difference, with quite alot of similarity!!

In Islamic law theft, bribery, rape, sexual harrasement, murder, assault & battery is all not allowed. Same goes for English law system. To me, I think shariah law shud only b present to muslims, because we cant just rule out our law system to non-muslims, I saw it happen, heard it happen, we cant force our system out to non believers. As long as justice is all that needs to be done. I say both shariah & English law shud xsist.

ummita

Notification: b/4 anyone start bamboozin me, I did not object 'n' neva wud I object 2 Shariah law, juss wantin 2 make sure am on d safe side ;) Thnx 2 all kanoonlinerz, surely all r gud 'n' nice. Keep d freindly atmosphere goin
Despite ur slammin, am still jammin!!!

Blaqueen

QuoteFyne Demme you dont understand at all. I am muslim because I believe that There is nothing worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad (SAW) is his messenger. since this is true I believe in the Holy Qur'an revealed to the Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW) as a true revelation from Allah Almighty. Every Muslim must believe these to be Muslim! If you believe in the Holy Prophet (SAW), then you have to believe that whatever he did was the best of practices and he had never done wrong. The Prophet (SAW) had instructed the stonning of an adultress, that means stonning is very Islamic and not barbaric or primitive or whatever the westerners will call it.

We are muslims and we are proud of our religion. Islam is our way of life and Shari'a is the legal code that guides it, whether it is political or whatever actions are judge according to the intentions. I dont think is relevant whether we are there or not when these cases were heard. And reporters even from other countries covered these cases, they were free and fair. And for God's sake why are all these western atishari'ah element not complaining about Saudi Arabia, Iran, Sudan, etc, why here!!!!!

Fyne Dyme relax and let shari'a be in Nigeria. It is blasphemous to say that Shari'a is anti women, is a lie, it is not true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No you didn't say so, I am just digressing. Stay cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

heeeeeey... chill!!! wheytin' hot...? "stonnin' of adultress AND adulterer"... IF found GUILTY!!!! the Amina Lawal case shoulda been thrown out long time ago...
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Boomer

Thank you very much Mallam Abubakar. Indeed, the previous writer is just very emotional with a feeling of being subjugated vis-?-vis immersed in the hot chase of illusions. The last time I checked the system that the writer is blindly embraced, there is no coverage in all the trials that take place in the courts. Also, it is a selected justice at its finest where in most cases, the rich and famous prevail leaving others like the writer, you and me disfranchised. ?

The writer has a formed opinion on the whole issue of Sharia in Northern Nigeria. Arewa has made a penal code choice, which is one million times better than the imposed legal system put in place by the colonial masters. The Nigerian legal system is modeled after the Brits legal system, which is Christian and traditional.

When did the writer started being concerned with a Muslim life? ?No, but thanks, Sharia is forever. Take it or leave it. :-)

Boomer

Ummi, you are right there are differences and similarities between sharia and most western laws. You see Ummi; the western laws are the amalgamations of the Old Testament (Torah) and the Injila, Original Gospel (According to St. Barnabas) all of these are within the context of Muslims believe. The difference is where the Greeks, Romans and King James distorted these original writings. The distortion reflects a comfort zone to accommodate their traditions.

Hope this explanation will help.

Boomer

Thank you Mallam Waziri. Invite Arewa professionals to the forum.

Boomer

Amina Lawal and Safiya are guilty as charged in the sharia court. All those missionaries and the federal Government that connived and abducted her to Vatican are doomed to fail at the long run. The whole purpose of her going to Vatican is to convert her and the little baby to Christianity. The issue at stake is about our religion and those that oppose us.

Blaqueen

... Boomer... Safiya was not guilty.. that's why she's FREEEEEE!!! she was found NOT GUILTY under Shariah Law... and Shariah granted her freedom...how can u not give credit to THE LAW!
plus Amina, there were no witnesses, and pregnancy is not enuff evidence...
capiche!
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ummita

Boomer, 2 me Shariah Law shud not b enforced.
Shariah should only b maintained by d muslims

With reference to Aminas case. Shariah states that there have to b atleast 7 witness seein thise commitin adultery in that act, b/4 shariah itself rules out d sentence ryt?

Authorities also stated that " a person shud not b mistated 4 wat they have said, neither shud a person b blamed 4 wat they have not done but have been influenced...

B/4 I make my nxt statement... u all have 2 promise me it not gonna b a bomb shell...eitherway u will not think its proposterious!!! Whuz with me (she laughs).

The case of Ameena, 2 support her case lets go bck.......mhmmm (ina jen tsoron ku)
Despite ur slammin, am still jammin!!!

nura

The following are used to convict and adulterer in Shari'ah

1. Confession - When the accused confessed to committing adultery
2. Pregnancy - For a woman to be pregnant out of wedlock

3. Presence of Four Witnesses - When there are four witnesses that have seen the "pestle in the mortar"

Safiya was discharged not due to lack of evidence since she has actually given birth outside wedlock. Safiya was discharged based on the technicality that She committed tha offence before the Shari'ah Law of Sokoto State come to effect.

Amina Lawal has been convicted by the Shari'ah court of Katsina State but she has appealed.

There is no way Islam can be practised fully without the Shari'ah because the religion is not just worship it is also Mu'amalat (living with people). Please and please dont play with this religion especially if you are interested in remaining a muslim. How can any muslim say that Shariah should not be enforced, not in Nigeria! In this country InshaAllah Shari'ah has come to stay, if you dont like it migrate.

May God protect Islam and Muslim and destroy shirk and mushrikins. I dont know what Ummita is afraid of, it is a free world you can say what you want to say(MTN) but just be careful: Dont Blaspheme the Religion of Islam; the Person of Muhammad(SAW) or any of his house or Sahaba. Also dont speculate just say what you know or ask any question. Also know that everybody is free to discharge his/her sexual need but only in a marital status. If you cant marry the Holy Prophet said you should fast for Fasting reduces desires and sexual urges. And if you want to transgress because you dont have husband or wife, dont get pregnant, if you are a woman and dont do it infront of 4 or more witnesses or in any of these states: Kano, Katsina, Jigawa, Zamfara, Sokoto, Kebbi, Yobe, Borno, Kaduna, etc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

May the Almighty Allah continue to guide us to what is good and acceptable in His Eyes. Amin.
agari Nakowa Mugu Sai Maishi

Blaqueen

Ooook... amin, Abu... really, a big AMEN to that...

but u cant enforce Shariah and juss sit there waiting for people to commit adultery and stone them...
the gov't actually has to GET UP.. and take precautions... try and avoid "sins" from taking place... HAS to EDUCATE people about the religion AND the world...
you have illeterate men getting high off "ganye"... some dont even know whuts up with that..
many women, when they're divorced, have no other means of supporting themselves, they have to sit at home and wait for another man to come and marry them... some go into prostitution because they dont have any other choice...
(dont u think there's a pattern here with "divorced women")

so many things are actually happening as a result of the gov't's LACK of caring...
so before the gov't can actually "accuse" people.. they need to strayten themselves out and HELP the people on the way to the right path...
dont forget the ESSENCE of ISLAM!!!!!! which has a lot to do with forgiving, helping, educating, and peace...

i'm pro-Shariah... but the govt has to bring stability and order first... if not crime wil continue to escalate..
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ummita

With all d ambiguity, hyp & iota'z surroundin Ameenas case, I have a lil 2 say.(I hope so :-/)

Whuz with me.........If I say apart from Shariah law, Ameena might have a case,wud have won d case. Lets go bck 2 9yr, when Shariah was not really put in2 practise,

If say Ameena's case was taken 2 a crown or magistrates court, it might b likely 4 her 2 win her case. The person 2 b held liable on her case might b d man (dunno his man) she committed adultery with!

From sources I've read, amongst them, sum stated that he delibrately forced her in the act, in other word, duz that describe rape?!!!!

Another stated he lured or seduced her, was that her fault?  If she fell in2 that?

If @ all Ameena subjected @her own free will, then indeed she has committed adultery. I read that the defendant did not consent 2 d act, if there is no genuine consent, then what did the man do?!!!!!!!!!

Another source indicated that Ameena had injuncted against d man ordering him not 2 carry on the act. If she honestly believes that she did not consent & as long as d jury believe her then she might have a case rty or wrong ?-/

With reference 2 Ameenas case, according 2 section 2 of sexual offences act 1956, authorities stated that no person would b charged with committin adultery if @ all one party duz no subject. Ameena @ first denied d fact as I read, so wat is d conclusion?

She also stated that she has lil 2 no knowlegde @ all on d consequences & duz & donts of Shariah law agaisnt adultery. If I may say, all owe her a duty of care. She has no knowledge, so wats d responsibilities of freind, family & some muslim ummmah? Educate!!!!!

So if Ameena had no knowledge of this aspect & if @ all it is so true, then she might not b liable 2 such an act!!!!!

Shariah punishement 2 adultery committer stonin 2 death ryt? that is if @ least 7 ppl witness have seen those found guilty in the act. Has eni1 spotted AMEENA V MAN!!!

Lastly, the shariah punishment was really on Safiyas case & Ameena, but if u look @ it akwai mata & maza all those ogas & madam that commit that offence, y suma baza ayi musu haka ba?

Eniwayz lets not dwell in 2 this case. We have all had enuff of Ameenas case, & no I is d best judge amongst others.

Rather Subhana wata'ala is best 2 judge.
Despite ur slammin, am still jammin!!!

Blaqueen

thankyooooo mah sistah....

and i HIGHLY recommend MEDIA COVERAGE!!! because there are too many "i heard this, i heard that, she said, he said"... it's not clear... we NEED to know what is happening!!!!

and ZATTO ZINIBI!!!!... Suspision is a Serious Sin....
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ummita

LAW again. Choppin hands off 2 those who steal rty?
Stoning 2 death for adult commiters ryt?
What does Islamic law regards as a punishment to A PROSTITUTE.

Well prostitution is su'in they du at their own free will ryt? and they get paid for that ryt?  If Englsih Law should legalise this active service in some part of the country, what does Shariah say to that?   They say it is a way to make their livin and support theirselves financially...............Shariah say its unIslamic, English Law has already legalised it. Kinda confused.................whcih is which?
Despite ur slammin, am still jammin!!!