Kano bombarded with rumour on Yar Adua's health...

[GamboT]

What is the REAL situation. After all he is OUR president and we need to know even as we pray for his well being.

[Muhsin]

Only Kano, GamboT? You have narrowed your question. LOL ;D

BTW, welcome on board!

[gogannaka]

Truly people are afraid of a hidden conspiracy regarding Pres. Umaru Musa Yar'adua's health.
Many believe that it was a calculated thing by Obasanjo and the PDP to give power to the NIger Delta so as to supress their grievances over derivation. They decided to pick Yar'adua,a sick person, because in thier own thoughts,he cannot hold the office effectively. When the worst happens and he dies then Jonathan Goodluck becomes president.As simple as that. Rumours even have it that Jonathan Goodluck has already written some prominent Northern elders to nominate a running mate when he becomes president.

Yar'adua has been diagnosed with the Churg-Straus syndrome, an rare disease that causes severe allergic reactions and asthma.It also affects the vitality of major organs like the Kidney,Liver and Heart.
The disease has three stages and can be suppressed/controlled at its early stages.

Really Yar'adua's health might pose a threat to the effective running of his government because most people see him as a sick person ready to die at any moment.Some even carry rumuors that he has been advised by his doctors not to work for more than 3 hrs and not to speak for more than 10 minutes.An advise he seems to be taking seriously.

My own opinion is Allah ne yake bada lafiya.If they did it in bad faith then Allah zai ba su mamaki.Haka kuma idan suna ganin wayon su ne zai saka suyi nasara then su tsaya su gani.Idan dukkan duniya suka taru zasu cutar da mutum kuma Allah bai yi ba to hakika babu abin da zai sami wannan mutum,haka kuma idan dukkan duniya ta taru domin ta kare wani mutum kuma Allah bai yi ba to babu abin da za su iya yi.

Allah ya kara wa shugaban kasa lafiya da kuzari da zai tafiyar da mulkin lafiya tare da kawo wa Nigeria ci gaba na Alheri.

[Dan-Borno]

the last time i heard a group of gentlemen arguing
about this yar'adua of a thing - i am fade up, especially
when a biased northerner is saying that he would'nt
want Goodluck to take over in case our President becomes
incapacitated to continue.

Nigeria belongs to all Nigerians and every section of this
country can rule Nigeria.  Nigeria is not only for us the
the Northerners.  By the way, we have witnessed series
of northerners tenure in presidency, what have they been
able to change in the north?

The eight (8) years of Obasanjo as the president of Nigeria
we have witnessed series of development in his region where
he came from neglecting the entire north and the south south
in his sharing of the national cake.

In case my servant-leader collapses and becomes incapacitated
we have no option than to abide by the supreme constitution and
we are solidly behind whoever climbs the mantle of the leadership
because, as a Muslim, i have been made to understand that only
God gives power and to Him alone all powers belong.

[gogannaka]

A good principle you have DB,however the politics is far more than that.
Abin takaicin shine wasa da hankalin jama'a da wasu few mutane suke.

No doubt as a true nigerian patriot you have to give allegiance to whoever becomes president,however what are the likely consequences.If you decide to be loyal,how many people will follow suit?The issue will be severely politicised and the ruthless politicians will use it as a tool to further stall any development.

If i could recall clearly,Obasanjo in one of his interviews said that he opted for the North/South(Yar'adua/Goodluck) ticket because the north was hell bent on taking power and that the PDP was afraid that fielding a southern candidate could tantamount to PDP losing the presidency,a situation the ruling party could not stand.
Politically, what they did is a good move: get a sick Northerner who's ready to kick the bucket anytime.This will ease the tension and seal the mouths of the northerners.After some days/months he dies and power now goes to the south (Niger delta),which is a good way to either silence the militants or empower them.The northerners of course will accept it as a will of God (from their religious background) and it will take them the end of the tenure planning on how to recapture the seat.
Ingeniuos,killing two birds with one stone.
Shegu PDP,iyayen magudi  8)

[King]

On the contrary Gogonnaka, I agree with Dan Borno's viewpoints. Nigeria belongs to everyone, every ethnic group, every religious sect represented, every man, woman, and child that is of Nigerian origin. This is why I laugh so much when I read in Nigerian News that "the stake holders in Nigeria held a meeting..". How ridiculous? Is every single Nigerian not a stakeholder?
It is the lack of desire to do things the right and fair way in the first place that has put us in our current predicament. Look, when your mindset is riddled with biase and you want to hold onto something while denying others a fair share of participation, you are piling up trouble for yourself. Isn't this why Africa is such a lost continent? We have leaders that hold onto power for decades while suppressing any possibility of change. We have ethnic groups in Africa that cling onto power in their respective countries while keeping all others at bay. what happens in most of these cases is complete stagnation, degradation of that society, and worst case scenario, war. We have quite a few in African, even very close to home.

Like Dan Borno said, the country does not belong to the north, or to the West either. Many people have used this sick power rotation arrangement between North and the West to destroy the country in every imaginable way. GG, what do you mean by..."if you decide to be loyal, how many people will follow you?". What sort of defeatist mentality is that? So your theory is, because we don't know how many people might follow, we should abandon loyalty? Does that make any sense? Why not be loyal, which is the right thing to do anyhow, and by so doing, lead by example so others can follow. The current lunacy we see in Nigeria, isn't it indicative of the example that leadership has set?

Here you are talking about Obasanjo favoritism to his people during his tenure. I read the other day in the Nigeria world website where a high ranking northern power broker stated in an interview that they (northern elite)  arranged for Obasanjo to become president thinking that he would serve their interest. They could careless about National interest. So sad for them Obasanjo sailed through as arranged and then became a thorn in their flesh while turning everything upside down for all others. The question is, where has all this political games and scheming gotten us? Are we better off than we were 40 years ago? Is the life of an average Nigerian any better today than it was say 10 years ago? If anything it has gotten worse because of a lack of honest desire to do the right thing.

Power shift between the north and West isn't the solution. It has cost Nigeria immensely and quite honestly, the north and West ought to be excluded from National leadership for sometime so other people with a degree of vision and purpose can pick up the pieces and chart a different course for the nation.
The argument that Yar-Adua is sick and that everything sorrounding his presidency was a conspiracy, etc, is pointless. Yar Adua knew about his medical condition prior to becoming the PDP nominee. He was well aware of his limitations and should never have accepted the job because of the strain it would put on his health. That is just common sense. But that aside, before the election, several governors launched their campaign bid, spent unaccountable sums of money on the campaign trail, and then so suddenly, they were muscled into ending their campaign run at the Party's convention just to 'pave' way for Yar-Adua. That single move damages the entire democratic process.

If Yar-Adua had been on the ballot like everyone else, and won free and square in the party election, then that would have been awesome. That would have given so much credibility to the system. But when the democratic process in constantly circumvented so a desire outcome can be attained, it shows how ignorant and unserious we are about change. You've got to allow the system work. You've got to enforce rules and allow the system correct itself by safeguarding the process. We continually break laws, interfere, and throw stumbling blocks all over the place thinking we are being politically crafty or smart. We are the dumbest people and we don't even know it.


IBB did the same thing to deny Chief Abiola an election he won free and square. When Nigerians went to the polls for the third republic, the Yorubas and the West clearly did not want Obasanjo anywhere close to power because they knew he wasn't an element of change that Nigeria needed. It seemed like everyone was ready to move in a different direction for once, but certain people went to work and shoved Obasanjo down the throats of Nigeria. Now those same people are all over the media expressing their regret. They ought to be arrested and thrown in jail for life because their irresponsible action and criminal interference in a political and democratic process has cost Nigerians untold hardship.

Here is what you said GG,
"Politically, what they did is a good move: get a sick Northerner who's ready to kick the bucket anytime.This will ease the tension and seal the mouths of the northerners.After some days/months he dies and power now goes to the south (Niger delta),which is a good way to either silence the militants or empower them.The northerners of course will accept it as a will of God (from their religious background) and it will take them the end of the tenure planning on how to recapture the seat.
Ingeniuos,killing two birds with one stone.
Shegu PDP,iyayen magudi  Cool"

Wow! Sounds like a gigantic conspiracy. If this is indeed the plan, how did we become this way? If national interest and love of country was the foremost ideal in people's mind, will this be our mindset? If fairness was mantra as Dan Borno pointed out, will we be dealing with Niger-Delta militant issue? The militants say they are marginalized, that their region is where the wealth of the nation is, yet they live in the most horrible conditions. Their communities are being polluted without any compensation, their young men are unemployed, they lack the basic necessities, etc. Some of the states that make up the Niger-Delta requested for an increased derivation, and the northern politicians blocked the demands. As a matter of fact, they wanted to set the cap on derivation meanwhile this resource does not come from their own neck of the woods. Do you not find that strange?

I admonish you open your mind and get on board with Dan Borno. He has the right mindset here, and only that kind of mindset can help us move forward and break down walls of division and mistrust that we all carry in our hearts.

Thanks.

[Dan-Borno]

I agree with Dan Borno's viewpoints.

Like Dan Borno said,

get on board with Dan Borno. He has the right mindset here,

8) in romance with the King (with no title) of Kanoonline.

[gogannaka]

LOL,
You have won the King's support.


King,you seem to have misunderstood my post.I neither rejected the idea of a southern(or whatever 'ern') president nor did i disapprove of DB's 'positive mindset'.
I was just digressing and analysing the issue at hand.

Infact your last post is so confusing and that i don't know ho to respond.

[amira]

Yar'adua has been diagnosed with the Churg-Straus syndrome, an rare disease that causes severe allergic reactions and asthma.It also affects the vitality of major organs like the Kidney,Liver and Heart.
The disease has three stages and can be suppressed/controlled at its early stages.

I heard that he was diagnosed with asthma when actually he doesnt have it and so it led to this syndrome because he was being prescirbed which such medicines.

Allah dai yabada lafiya Ameen.

[King]

GG, explain that confusing aspect of my last post, and I'll try to help you clarify the 'confusion'.

[bakangizo]

No matter how altruistic we want to be, there is no way to divorce Nigerian politics from sectionalism. We can only be deceive ourselves if we think the so-called Nigerian leaders, especially of the PDP breed, would ever do something without ulterior motives. So if the 'news' making rounds is that Obj had a hidden agenda for making 'Yar'adua president, it cannot be dismissed outrightly. Particularly given Obj's abject hatred of the North.

Therefore DB, the issue had gone beyond "Nigeria belong to all of us, so everyone can rule". That is, or should, be the desired scenario. However, the situation is more complex than that. Events in recent times have washed away any semblance of romance I personally might have had with that view. I'm not saying the northern leaders had done anything worthwhile to the north, but while theirs is a case of sheer negligence of the region, that of Obj is a calculated plan to shove us aside. We are all witnesses to how he (Obj) had systematically 'un-developed' the north in his eight years of misrule. Not that other parts of the country had faired much better, but he came in with this burning desire to balkanize the north so much so that he couldn't even mask it. Any surprise then that the northerners are skeptical, nay afraid, of seeing someone from the 'other side' ruling for another 8 years?

So if I understand the posts below, DB and King are being theoretical (fantasists if you like ;D), while goga is being practical. Saying it as it is!

[Dan-Borno]

Bakangizo, may be we need to revisit an old thread authored
by Muhsin on the reasons and philosophy behind your username.

[gogannaka]

Here is the latest update on the Presidents Health, culled from Guardian Newspaper of May 20 2008:


In an interview with the Financial Times of London, the President said he is not a super-human who cannot get sick, asking Nigerians who feel agitated about his health to "be concerned about Nigeria itself."

According to the President, "when I hear these rumours (about his indisposition), I always feel more elated. They confirm to me that I am not what those peddling the rumours want to believe I should be. I am an ordinary human being. I am not a super-human being. I don't know one yet. But certainly I'm not one. I am a normal human being who can fall sick, who can recover, who can die, who can have feelings, who can be angered, who can laugh, who is fit enough to be President, and who can have headaches, and can have fever.

"You see, all my medical records are in Germany. And I have been going to Germany since 1986. And I do my check-ups in Germany every year. In fact, sometimes every six months. And this has been going on since 1986. Now, the fact that I'm President today doesn't mean that when I feel there's something that I think is wrong and needs to be checked, I shouldn't go to my doctors, where all my records for the past 22 years are. It is the most practical thing to do. They know the background of everything about me medically.

"They (who are agitated about his health) should be concerned about Nigeria itself. And they should be rest assured that in working, carrying out responsibilities of President, I am fit and able to do that. And I'm doing it. In fact, at times, even overdoing it. I hardly have more than five hours, four hours sleep a day. And I believe the kind of work I do, it has to be, because there is an inner energy propelling me to do it. Sometimes when I look back, I just wonder that I'm able to do what I'm doing, and I believe Nigerians should have confidence in their leaders, and they should not be gullible to all kinds of rumours."

Prior to his last 10-day trip to Germany, he said: "I had malaria for four days. It never stopped me from doing anything. And then I took a new drug, which of course treated the malaria. But then, it gave me an allergic reaction. And he (presidential spokesman) announced it. The day before, when I got the allergic reaction, it was a Sunday. That Sunday, I spent over eight hours in my office in my house working. The following day, I signed the budget. And before I left, I spent time in my office working, because there was nothing wrong with me except allergic reaction."

President Yar'Adua linked the persistent rumour about his health to politics, saying that "politics in Nigeria is very interesting. And we can see that people enjoy fabricating stories, falsehoods, getting their way to get them published. But gradually, once we continue to develop as a nation, and then respect for the rule of law begins to take firm root, even the attitude of people to be sincere and honest in what they do will now continue to develop. That is why it is very critical, and very important, to establish respect for the rule of law. It's not a small challenge, because it is the greatest challenge this nation faces. But I assure you, once we are able to achieve that, as we achieve greater respect for the rule of law, you'll find that positive attitudes and values will begin to take over negative attitudes and values in Nigerians. And that is when you see that even the practice of politics and opposition and so on will now be based more on sincerity."

[HUSNAA]

Ni laifin yar adua na ke gani, becos he was thinking selfishly when he accepted the presidential candidature in the first place. Since he knew the state of his health, he should have declined to accept, ko da yake kuma I dont know among that bunch of Kuraye that we call the northern PDP governors who would have  wanted to implement an honest govt like Yar adua, seeing that at least he was aware more than anyone else about his own mortality. A robust and healthy governor might believe in his invincibility as time went on and be useless for the country. On the other hand kuma, Yar adua is proving pretty much that also, mortality conscious or not.

[bakangizo]

Hajia, wallahi duk abun iskanci ne kawai. Kuma duk wani magana akan lafiyar sa (ko rashin ta) rufa-rufa kawai suke wa mutane.